ALIEN: The Weyland-Yutani Report (S.D. Perry, 160 pages)

[RakaiThwei]

And.. this is completely left field but.. the AvP movies.. What is exactly Fox's stance on those? Are those an alternate universe, a separate canon or.. did they just never happen? I would be disappointed if it was the last but this was something I needed to ask.

[SM]

Features material from Prometheus,  Alien,  Aliens,  Alien 3, and Alien Resurrection and is one of the first books to bring the worlds of Prometheus  and the Alien  films together.

[RakaiThwei]

Features material from Prometheus,  Alien,  Aliens,  Alien 3, and Alien Resurrection and is one of the first books to bring the worlds of Prometheus  and the Alien  films together.

I am aware, that never escaped my mind but I just had to ask anyway out of curiosity.

[locusta]

And.. this is completely left field but.. the AvP movies.. What is exactly Fox's stance on those? Are those an alternate universe, a separate canon or.. did they just never happen? I would be disappointed if it was the last but this was something I needed to ask.

I guess we can be sure, that AVP and even more AVP Retard never happened. (For the last one I wish that somebody destroys the master copy)

[HuDaFuK]

-I wrote about ten pages of material of the fictional Space Beast, telling the story of what happened on Fury 161 in Morse's voice. So, like 10 pages from a book. I haven't seen the very final version, so some of it may have been cut... BTW, WAY fun to write.

This is genuinely the most interesting part for me. The whole book looks great, but that bit intrigues me especially, I can't wait to read it.

I like that the actors' first names were used for some of the Prometheus characters.

That's getting to be a franchise tradition!

[Corporal Hicks]

It was only Aliens that did that, wasn't it?

Yeah, Space Beast is what I'm most curious about. I'd still love to see a novel with Morse after the events of A3, with quotes from his book spread around it.

[HuDaFuK]

It was only Aliens that did that, wasn't it?

True enough, but I like the fact they've done it again. Plus Janek just got even cooler with Idris as a first name.

[predxeno]

And.. this is completely left field but.. the AvP movies.. What is exactly Fox's stance on those? Are those an alternate universe, a separate canon or.. did they just never happen? I would be disappointed if it was the last but this was something I needed to ask.

I guess we can be sure, that AVP and even more AVP Retard never happened. (For the last one I wish that somebody destroys the master copy)

Lol, if the rumors are true that Fox is trying to create a Master Continuity, then I imagine it would be ridiculously difficult to rationalize why the AVP movies should be de-canonized; I mean those are actual movies, not just small comics that can be shoved in the back.

[SM]

Prometheus also is an actual movie.

That's getting to be a franchise tradition!

Sort of.

[HuDaFuK]

Lol, if the rumors are true that Fox is trying to create a Master Continuity, then I imagine it would be ridiculously difficult to rationalize why the AVP movies should be de-canonized; I mean those are actual movies, not just small comics that can be shoved in the back.

Not really. Casino Royale essentially undid every James Bond movie made before it. Batman Begins did the same for the Batman franchise. It doesn't stop the earlier films existing, they just don't count in the new continuity.

I already pretend the AVP films don't exist anyway, because they're sh*t, so making it official wouldn't change much.

[predxeno]

Those movies were reboots though, they destroyed even the original classic films from continuity; the concept of deleting films without rational explanation is something completely different.

[SM]

You assume there isn't a rational explanation?

[HuDaFuK]

Those movies were reboots though, they destroyed even the original classic films from continuity; the concept of deleting films without rational explanation is something completely different.

They're deleting them because they're crap and they totally contradict the fact no one is supposed to have seen the Alien prior to Alien?

[predxeno]

The films were prequels, what did people expect?  Good stories with no contradictions?

[RakaiThwei]

Batman Begins did the same for the Batman franchise. It doesn't stop the earlier films existing, they just don't count in the new continuity.

Actually, in the context of DC's Multiverse.. the Burton/Schumacher films still count as an entirely separate universe from the Nolan films. So.. those exist in-multiverse as far as DC is concerned.

Lol, if the rumors are true that Fox is trying to create a Master Continuity, then I imagine it would be ridiculously difficult to rationalize why the AVP movies should be de-canonized; I mean those are actual movies, not just small comics that can be shoved in the back.

Well.. so far it's looking like Fox is trying to create a master continuity and if this book proves anything, it cinches the rumor as being true. As for movies being de-canonized, well.. there are some examples of such movies. HuDaFuk pointed out Casino Royale, but I would think the James Bond master continuity would be the novels by Flemming. The only movies which come to mind which decanonizes movies would of course be the Godzilla Heisei movies, which ignores the previous Godzilla movies but the 1954 original. But the Showa era films are considered their own canon.

I don't like the idea of something being jettisoned from canon as much as you do PredXeno but.. so far it's looking like as if that maybe just the case. Personally, I wouldn't mind them being rendered a canonical/semi-canon AU but.. Fox has the power to say it never happened. I don't like it but so far it's looking like it is what it is.