Quote from: xeno-kaname on Apr 23, 2014, 03:01:45 PM
Quote from: Xenodog on Apr 23, 2014, 11:58:40 AM
I see Jaimie Lannistergate Scandal has not struck here, with his scene with Cersei, which seems to have caused some uproar with his fanbase.
Agree with Marines though...Tywin's scenes own. Dat strategy.
I saw that too but i think they are exaggerating. Spoiler
She clearly wanted it. She kisses him back during the process. She's mainly protesting because she realizes how wrong it is, and the risk of getting caught. That last moment when she hangs on to some cloth from the altar or whatever, she seems to be mostly doing it for support, not to get away.
She initiates and then pulls away because of his hand. She looks disgusted by it. You can see it in the scene. Then he says his "hateful woman" line and - twincest. I don't find it much different from the books, where he pushes himself onto her, she protests and tries to fight him off, and then she capitulates (no, that's not the same as consent). It's borderline sexual assault in the novels and it's the same here. Some fans can't extract themselves from a character's POV, that's the more disturbing part about this whole thing.
Quote from: MudButt on Apr 23, 2014, 02:59:55 PM
I was starting to like Jamie again but I don't like him anymore. Not because of the steamy sensual romantic rape scene next to his dead son/nephew/king, but because he seemed like he was shaping into some redemption story but now he's just the same blonde buttface.
This isn't a simple series: these characters have a multitude of threads running through them that lead up to that moment in the Sept. Their entire relationship is destructive. There is not a facet of this coupling that isn't twisted. Aside from
literally spawning hate and malevolence in the form of Joffrey, it has caused irreparable harm throughout the Kingdoms in both direct and indirect ways. Jaime is about to realise that his 'love' or lust for Cersei has contributed to the sullying of his honour and name and the near-destruction of a kingdom. This will be a hard and scarring lesson, as it is in life. These two have murdered and schemed to preserve their relationship; now the whole mess is crumbling around them and the violence is being fittingly projected inward.
