Quote from: Highland on Jun 14, 2022, 05:36:42 AMThe actions of the people don't make any sense. For one Reva is trying to get out of Leia the locations ( or something) of the tunnels/rebels. How would she know this? Is this explained in some part of the show that I missed? Then the infiltrator lady (don't know her name) just sits at a desk an directs obi-wan in front of other Empire officers, then gets spotted and takes this officer out in the same room?
Obiwan in the ship can't seem to move a piece of metal, then an hour later he's holding back water tunnels.
That's aside from them being able walk out (nobody sounded an alarm?) then the snow speeders just fly up to the port without any Tie fighters spotting them? Perhaps on paper the script is better, but the way this is being sold is just not believable.
It doesn't flow, I'm personally taken out of the show too much, too many ...what? Moments.
I understand the concern but being an older guy these story glitches don't bother me.
- I saw the original trilogy when I was an adult. I became a Star Wars fan but I was critical of some things since the beginning. I got to talk to the producers about my concerns by phone on a sci-fi radio show in LA called Hour 25.
Eventually, I came to realize that Star Wars is loaded with inconsistencies which require an adult to find justifications or just accept it. But a child growing up with the story may not notice certain things.
Examples;
* In Empire, Luke in the station at first can't hold on to his lightsaber, then a minute later he's wounding Vader on his arm.
These kinds of things set up 'rules' within Star Wars where a Force character can be very weak at first but then as they use the Force, they can quickly become powerful.
* In ANH; Vader is trying to get out of Leia the location of the rebel base. How would she know this? After all Leia is only transporting plans for the Death Star. That doesn't mean she knows anything else about the rebel alliance.
- But this kind of character connection becomes a shorthand for the script. Someone involved in the rebel alliance knows everything about it, therefore torturing her will tell us all we want to know.
- In ANH itself Tarkin partly questions this very reasoning. Does Leia really know the location of the rebel base? Is she hiding it?
- As for the Obi-Wan show, the scenes with young Leia are sometimes mimicking what was done with older Leia in the original trilogy.
* Then in Empire the rebel ships just fly away from the Hoth planet without any Tie fighters (from multiple Star Destroyers) spotting them?
The way this scene is being sold is just not believable.
- Under close scrutiny much of Star Wars' story structure falls apart. This just wasn't noticed as children. Again as an adult I just roll with most of it.
* Basic concepts;
- Villain decay; Star Wars villains have overwhelming power and they just let their advantage slip away. They have to, otherwise the heroes would not win. Villain leaders act like Bond villains who talk away as they lose. Stormtroopers are almost always just fools.
In ANH, no trooper on the Death Star can find the right trash compactor?
Vader after his Obi-wan chat can't open a blast door to get to the Falcon?
- Star Wars canon is also quirky with multiple strange ideas being established often because fans demand it.
Examples; Dark Maul gets cut in half in Phantom Menace. He should be dead. Fans demand his return and so it becomes canon that Dark Force users can will themselves alive after massive injuries.
- Same with Boba Fett, fans want him alive so he survives the Sarlacc Pit.
* More quirky canon; In Return of the Jedi; Teddy bears with Stone Age weapons defeat a squad of Stormtroopers who have body armor, laser weapons and walking tanks. It's absurd.
- What is being sold, including the original trilogy and since then, is just not believable. It's a fantasy story. Lucas says it's for kids and he's mostly right.