Egg on Sulaco

[SM]

Alright, no need to get nasty now.

The 50 minutes flight time was for Bishop to autopilot the dropship from the Sulaco to the Colony.  If I'm not mistaken.

The mission times when they initially land indicate the same flight time.  When they're doing the initial sweep the mission times are around 1 hour 3 minutes (time to fly from Sulaco plus Ferro doing the flyover, plus landing and entering the colony) up to 1 hour 31 minutes by the time the area is declared secure.

[Scorpio]

How do you know that?

You're the one saying it isn't; that's up to you to prove.

You're assuming it's travelling at the same distance/speed, and that's up to you to prove.  I gave a reason why it might not be. 

The mission times when they initially land indicate the same flight time.  When they're doing the initial sweep the mission times are around 1 hour 3 minutes (time to fly from Sulaco plus Ferro doing the flyover, plus landing and entering the colony) up to 1 hour 31 minutes by the time the area is declared secure.

Do you have a reference for this info or are you just making this up?

[SiL]

It's on the screens when we see the view from the Marines' helmet cameras as they move through the colony.

[Scorpio]

Ok, I'll have to watch Aliens again and check.  When did the mission start?  When they put on their helmets?

[426Buddy]

Ok, I'll have to watch Aliens again and check.  When did the mission start?  When they put on their helmets?

Its like no matter how wrong you are, you just can't stop yourself. You just keep doubling down regardless.

Been a lot of that on the boards today.

[Vermillion]

Bishop got the egg from where the queen was laying them when Ripley found Newt.

He didn't need to go to the derelict.
Plus in the film you see him rising up from where Ripley just came from...with the queen following.

[SiL]

Bishop got the egg from where the queen was laying them when Ripley found Newt.

He didn't need to go to the derelict.
Plus in the film you see him rising up from where Ripley just came from...with the queen following.

There was nowhere to land. He would've had to have waited for Ripley to go down, take the other elevator, sneak past her to the Queen's chamber that he had no idea where is, get back to the landing platform, take off, and circle around just to f**k with Ripley?

And the Queen doesn't follow the dropship in any way. She  takes the elevator that Ripley had called down. Them both reaching the platform at the same time is coincidence.

[Scorpio]

Its like no matter how wrong you are, you just can't stop yourself. You just keep doubling down regardless.

Nobody is right or wrong.  No need for the attitude.

[SiL]

Everyone's welcome to their ideas and opinions. Everyone is welcome to express and discuss them.

But that doesn't mean there's no such thing as wrong and right or that every idea is valid.

There isn't enough time for Bishop to have done what you suggest. Therefore you are wrong when you say that's what could have happened.

[SM]

Its like no matter how wrong you are, you just can't stop yourself. You just keep doubling down regardless.

Nobody is right or wrong.  No need for the attitude.

No.  You're wrong.

Go watch the film.

[Scorpio]

I will,  but you still won't be able to definitively tell me how long it took.  Number one, it's a work of fiction.  Number two, there may have been things not shown on screen to account for the mission time.  There are many other questions as well.  I'm not even stating that I'm right, that's the difference between you and I.

[SM]

No the difference is - I'm right, and you're just being difficult.

The dialogue matches what's shown on screen, and you theory about Bishop and the egg is baseless.

Copping out with 'It's a work of fiction' is predictable.

[Scorpio]

No, you're left. 

I just checked, it doesn't show when the mission start time is, the first time you see the mission time it is 22 minutes in while they're still in the dropship.  The mission time could have already started while they were on the Sulaco.

Next time you see it is Apone's cam when they're already in the Colony and it reads ??:02:03 (presumably 1 hour).  So that means it took 40 minutes from when they were sitting in the drop ship to when the marines entered the Colony complex.  That of course does not match screentime.

[SiL]

The earliest it would've started is once they were all geared up and loading into the dropship. More likely the mission time would've begun with the drop itself. Either way, it's longer than 20 minutes from Sulaco to ground, and as many hairs as we might split over the exact time -- the idea that Bishop could've done what you said is still wrong.

[Scorpio]

Not exactly, because we don't know how long Ripley was in the hive.  It's stated "15 minutes to reach minimum safe distance" but that doesn't necessarily mean 15 minutes until it explodes.

EDIT:  I'm not trying to be 'difficult', I'm just having a discussion.  Let's keep it civil.