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[Ingwar]

Eh the problem is...Lovecraft is not a current millionaire, who spends his spare time defending a hate speech. In fact, he's not even alive. 😅

But let's pretend for a second that he is alive and rich thanks to his art. In this hypothetical case, if you paid for merchandising that adapts his creation, you would be...indeed...helping an openly racist person to become wealthy. It doesn't matter if Lovecraft invented cartoons for children, nor if it was not your intention to support a racist person. The implication would be the same and if it was unintentional, it would be at least an unfortunate side effect. I understand your frustration with everything political these days, but we are adults, and as such we must be aware of the consequences of our actions.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you can't play Hogwarts Legacy, as you are free to do whatever you want with your life and money. But if you do, you would be supporting J.K. Rowling without a doubt.

You're not supporting JK Rowling as she's already a multimillionaire. Buying the game you're supporting people who made it.

Consequences of your actions? Do you truly believe that unaware of these shitstorm occurring on social media parents who buy game for their beloved child wanting to have some fun in Harry Potter universe, are supporting transphobia?

If you eat meat and diary then you supposedly (according to this twisted logic regarding Hogwarts Legacy) support animal cruelty and if you buy clothes made in China, Pakistan, Indonesia, India, Sri Lanka as so on, you supposedly support modern slavery? Nonsense I assume that you eat meat/diary and wear clothes made in those countries but I don't believe that you support animal cruelty and modern slavery.

And what about these Anti-Semitic tropes? Seriously, who wrote this review?

[Crazy Rich]

Did anyone mention how the game has the Harry Potter universe's first trans character?

So transphobic!

[Immortan Jonesy]

Right...

https://twitter.com/insiderent/status/1277584536960892930

https://twitter.com/PyonPyonPichu/status/1623230391254663168

Then, on June 10, 2020, Rowling published a lengthy post on her website and sent out a tweet that read "TERF Wars." (TERF is an acronym that stands for trans-exclusionary radical feminist.)

"This isn't an easy piece to write, for reasons that will shortly become clear, but I know it's time to explain myself on an issue surrounded by toxicity. I write this without any desire to add to that toxicity," she wrote. "For people who don't know: last December I tweeted my support for Maya Forstater, a tax specialist who'd lost her job for what were deemed 'transphobic' tweets. She took her case to an employment tribunal, asking the judge to rule on whether a philosophical belief that sex is determined by biology is protected in law. Judge Tayler ruled that it wasn't."

Rowling explains that she became interested in trans issues while researching a character she's writing. Rowling also outlined "five reasons for being worried about the new trans activism." 

https://twitter.com/mariehenley17/status/1622980251948052482

[BlueMarsalis79]

You know what, I've really never understood why there's such uproar over the whole Rowling thing.

She expressed an opinion some people don't agree with. OK. So the f**k what? Tons of people out there have unpopular views that never generate this level of vitriol.

I've never read the books or watched the films because honestly I couldn't care less, but unless I've missed something they aren't themselves grossly transphobic, are they? So it's just a personal opinion. Are we not allowed those any more? We have to be tolerant of everyone except those who have a point of view we don't agree with?

She literally funds hate groups. It goes far beyond "just a personal opinion" in reality. It has a knock on effect.

For an example a sixteen year old trans girl was stabbed to death in England this week, after years of being relentlessly bullied, with the police and teachers doing nothing about it.

Hateful rhetoric does not exist in a vacuum, primarily it comes from institutionalised bigotry and ignorance, and people who fund such beliefs and tout them with a megaphone and the rich can afford the biggest megaphones.

[Crazy Rich]

Do you know what the difference is between "us vs them".

You choose to give JK this much importance.

We don't.

At most she gets royalties because she's the original creator, otherwise she really has nothing to do with the game.

That's something most people, even trans people evidently, just don't give a shit about. People just want to enjoy a truly harmless video game.

Are you going to call trans people transphobes too because they don't agree with you?

Because I own a Porche I'm also supporting the Nazies?

[BlueMarsalis79]

I do not know a single trans person who would or has purchased it, But similarly as it is your privilege to do so as someone outside the group this affects I hope they also are aware of such affects that they may be contributing towards.

To be clear I am not angry or trying to change your mind either, perhaps a bit disappointed but ultimately just presenting my view.

No ethical consumption under Capitalism yada yada but, that refers to me to things you can not do without honestly, not a luxury item.

[Crazy Rich]

Okay I'm gonna buy 10 Hogwarts Legacy's and 5 Porche automobiles too.

[Ingwar]

For an example a sixteen year old trans girl was stabbed to death in England this week, after years of being relentlessly bullied, with the police and teachers doing nothing about it.

What happened to that girl is horrible but it has absolutely nothing to do with buying (supporting) Hogwarts Legacy. You're being oversensitive about it and clearly being influenced by emotions.

And speaking about bullying and hateful rhetoric, what about people who attack Hogwarts Legacy players on Twitch?

[BlueMarsalis79]

When it turns out to be a hate crime (which it undoubtedly will) then yes, it will have been directly influenced by hateful rhetoric that the United Kingdom allows, The Times for example edited their article to use male pronouns and their deadname once it was discovered that they were transgender.

If you believe that has no correlation to one of the most popular figureheads and their friends in the media funding right wing groups, then it is simply willful ignorance.

Whataboutisms serve no one.

[Ingwar]

I'm sorry but we're not on the same page here. You're being paranoid about it.

[BlueMarsalis79]

I live with it, I think I would know better, to be clear once again I am not calling anyone who plays it a bigot either.

But acting like their purchase does not support it is intellectual dishonesty.

[Crazy Rich]

Gotta love being designated as ignorant and dishonest for having a different opinion that isn't even remotely unreasonable.

I'm too old for this shit...

[BlueMarsalis79]

It is not even up for debate whether you purchasing it supports institutionalised transphobia, it does.

Whether you acknowledge that fact or not though, that's up to you.

I know every time I buy from Nestle or Primark I support their use of slave labour even if not my intent, that's just the reality of capital.

[Crazy Rich]

Oh no it's not up for debate?

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[BlueMarsalis79]

Do you have a rebuttal or?

Guess not.