Dark Horse To Reboot Comic Series

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RakaiThwei

Really? That thing reminds you of Sebulba?

-Rakai'Thwei

Nightmare Asylum

Looks more like this to me:


Ultramorph

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 07, 2014, 02:49:11 PM
Looks more like this to me:



Wow, the heads are almost identical!

Xenomorphine

Quote from: Ultramorph on Jan 07, 2014, 12:40:37 AM
Except the NEWEST Prometheus stuff, which I think has part of a creature's tail snaking along the left-hand side.  ;D

It seems to be rooted to the floor. Whatever it is, I don't think it's a tail. Possibly alien vegetation or part of the architecture.

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 07, 2014, 01:29:00 AM
I thought you didn't like PREDATORS. Unless I'm confusing you and DoomRulz.

Think you must be. ;) I found it entertaining.

QuoteI honestly didn't like the Super Predators. I thought they were completely unnecessary and they devalued what the original Predator was supposed to be, a nigh unstoppable creature from space which was a Grendel archetype of enemy. To me the Super Predator downgraded what the original concept was just so they could be sold as more dangerous than the original.

I don't think the 'Super Predator' was executed as well as it could have been, but them feeling more primal and Neanderthal-like seemed like the impression the film wanted you to have. I can't think there'd be much of a reason to keep reinforcing the differences with the classic design's reappearance, otherwise.

QuoteAlso, what the Super Predators were.. depends on how you take things. Unless you count the July 2009 script which was the draft that the folks here got, then they were supposedly normal Predators who had altered themselves with the genetics of their prey to become what they are. But then that idea was tossed out and worked in favor of them for being a different species, and according to Rodriguez, they were sent on that planet as a form of punishment of sorts. Again, depends on what you take.

Indeed. But that's the whole point: We don't know who or what they were. We don't know the reasons and the story didn't need to give any.

Were they required? No, not really. Just accept it as a 'bigger, badder' plot device. Rodriguez's attempt to do what Cameron did in 'Aliens' with the Queen: Up the stakes. We only have to look at the plural nature of the title to realise he was trying to emulate that formula. Considering what the original script was like, urination mockery and all, what we wound up having was practically a masterpiece.

The problem with them is that they don't quite match up to the concept. If you can imagine them being taken on by the originals without much trouble, then it fails. That's the yardstick I use for Alien designs: The ones in 'Requiem' would have posed no problem for even Ripley 8, let alone the monstrosities presented in the seventies/eighties.

I'd imagine that's why this series won't really be touching on them. The story it they want to tell can be told jsut as easily with the original designs.

I'd hope, however, that they bother to update their equipment. ;) One of my very few issues with the first of the AVP comics was that they'd upgraded the armour for fighting Aliens, but had downgraded the weaponry, by giving them clunky, unwieldy shotguns, instead of the auto-tracking shoulder-mounted energy weapon from the films.

QuoteConsidering that the cast and crew, referred to Berserker as Mr. Black, not Mrs. Black or Ms. Black.. I'm pretty sure that these guys were one hundred percent male. And as for female Predators, we almost got one in the film-- Michael Broom even drew concept art for her and she only made it to concept art stage. And guess what, she had breast

From a canonical standpoint, for all we know, the ones we've always seen in the other films could be female. what a production crew on set refers them to as, has no bearing on what they could be. What matters is whether anything's been clarified on screen or not.

I've never felt breasted Predators make logical sense, considering how their mouthparts are clearly designed to shred flesh. Some feel differently, but the breasts thing has always seemed like a fetish ideal which hasn't eben logically thought through.

Xenomrph

Xenomrph

#425
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 07, 2014, 02:49:11 PM
Looks more like this to me:


What is that thing?

SiL

SiL

#426
One of the lice thingies from Cloverfield.

Xenomrph

Xenomrph

#427
Huh, okay. I still need to see that movie.

SM

SM

#428
QuoteI've never felt breasted Predators make logical sense, considering how their mouthparts are clearly designed to shred flesh.



o hai

Xenomorphine

When lions start having jaws which look like a cross between a crab and a Swiss army knife, get back to me. ;)

SM

SM

#430
When we known for certain that Predators are born with big gnashy teeth that would do unspeakable things to a bosom - get back to me.

Ultramorph

Perhaps this isn't the topic to be having this debate, but since we are I'll just add that Predators with breasts are a bad idea because they tend to like awful weird fanboy porn.


MrSpaceJockey

Quote from: SM on Jan 09, 2014, 12:13:11 AM
When we known for certain that Predators are born with big gnashy teeth that would do unspeakable things to a bosom - get back to me.

Predators don't really have lips or anything to suckle with though...unlike any other carnivorous mammal.

SM

SM

#433
They've got that big flappy thing that covers their mouth - maybe they use that.

I don't think the shape of their mouth is any nail in the breast coffin.  I don't get why Predator fans have an issue with Predator females having boobs.  Obviously big fake looking ones would look dopey - but big fake looking jugs look dopey on humans, so that's neither here nor there.

Ultramorph

On another note, Juan Ferreyra's Facebook fan page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Juan-E-Ferreyra-Comics-and-illustration/148648041833866?id=148648041833866&sk=photos_stream) has a slightly different version (uploaded back in October) of one of the concept art pics from the Io9 article.



What's noteworthy is in the comments. Someone wrote " I hope you can show us more in the future! I like how you added the black goo on the stairs. Ferreyra (on his personal FB) replied "Glad you noticed the goo there Dennis!" Indeed, you can see black goo running down the stairs. This seems to confirm my belief that the Predator series will revolve around hunting an Engineer (the Pred also seems to be on an Engineer ship in the concept art). I just wonder what that gadget is on the right behind the Predator, resting on the outcropping. I think it's probably his shoulder canon.

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