Quote from: SM on Nov 20, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
Me, of all people, doesn't see the world in black and white terms of science = real and religion = bullshit as many others do. I can see them co-existing with no problems whatsoever.
So can I. Not what I'm talking about at all though.
Her stance isn't the problem -- her believing these are our creators, her being religious, none of that's an issue. The issue is that's all we have to go on. She's a one-note character and her note is appallingly flat and uninteresting. "I saw this, therefor I believe this, and that's all there is to it."
Which can be plenty. Just not how it's handled here.
QuoteAnd so what if the 'protagonist' comes across as naive and the 'antagonist' is the sensible one?
Because the scene very clearly wants us to dislike Vickers -- yet Shaw's the one that winds up looking like a prat.
Ripley sounds like a raving loon at the inquiry in
Aliens, but we've been with her and we know she's right. We get to share her frustration rather than looking at her wondering why she's having a hard time believing people are incredulous about her totally unfounded claims of acid-bleeding face-raping space aliens.
We know Shaw's right because we sat through the first five minutes and we know there wouldn't be a movie if she weren't, but
she doesn't, so she comes across as a self-righteous bitch. It's the same problem the AvP movies have, or
Alien 3; we're too far ahead of the characters, and the writers have decided to exploit this rather than keeping us all level.
And then throughout the entire rest of the film her faith and belief remain pretty thoroughly untested, let alone unbroken. She's proved right that they made us, never questions the existence of a higher power still, and still acts like she's owed something by the end of the picture.
That's
my problem. She's a shitty character that we're stuck with the entire film who never grows or develops in any meaningful way and we're apparently supposed to
like her.