Quote from: Kurai on Feb 21, 2017, 02:45:31 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Feb 21, 2017, 02:19:44 PM
Quote from: Master on Feb 21, 2017, 02:04:42 PM
For Predator. They are interesting becuse they seem to have some sort of rules ( not code of honour, preds aren't honourable) and probably wouldn't kill a kid unless he's armed, which qas shown in clever way in P2. I would want it using cheap shocksblike child killing.
This, plus the Predator killing a little child is neither cool nor fun to watch, there is just nothing about it. I rather see them take out heavily armed dudes or people they really feel threatened by. They aren't really honorable, but majestic and kind of arrogant in that way, "you're not worth my time".
What's with the wishes of the Predator killing kids suddenly? He's not Freddy Krueger.
In my case there's two things. We have characters in the movie who allegedly have some knowledge of the species and chances are they'll be thinking the exact same things as you two. That's good writing, having the subversion of the established character archtype not only impact you, but the characters in the story as well.
Second, there's the fact a kid is in the film with any sort of major part to play at all. He's either going to die in a brutal manner or it will be cliche and I wouldn't even be surprised if they threw in a buddy-buddy thing with the Predator and the kid looking at each other as "Bros" before the Predator gets in his ship and flies away at the end. That just isn't how I see the Predator franchise, that's watered down Disney crap.
The lead's child killed or seriously injured by the Predator is character motivation that we've never seen before. It's emotional, it's intense and... For god's sake, why does a kid have a big role in a hyper-violent movie about an invisible butcher of manly men? (slams head on desk)
This isn't a case like Newt, we've had stuff like this in movies for decades now. It's stale. There are two Predators, right? One of them is going to be a sadistic psychopathic killer of everything, that's my prediction. I doubt they'll have the balls to off a kid and you're right, no one wants to see that, but they've set themselves up for something that from the surface seems stale and cringe-worthy. I'm probably wrong, I'm hoping I am. I'm hoping people will look back at this movie and say "Heck, that's how you put a kid in a violent space monster thriller." But that will be bloody tough.
It all has to do with implimentation and genre savviness. Very few directors have that, I'm hoping in this case Shane Black does. If the kid lives, it can't be because of plot armour.
I get where you are coming from, but even if it sounds worn out... this is a Shane Black movie, so the kid will probably have a very thought out place in the movie and the story. He wrote The Monster Squad, the kids in The Nice Guys are
hilarious for example and there are some really cool movies with horror elements that involved kids... take Jurassic Park, Super 8 or even Stranger Things, those are awesome shows/movies in my book that wouldn't be the same with just adults.
A scene with the Predator after the kid in a dark house or park, because it's chasing it's tech could be
really scary if done right, more so than any Predator chasing an adult could ever be.
But, people can generalize everything, it's easy at this point to hear three things from this movie that doesn't go with everyones vision of what this movie should be and say "f**k it".
This movie is turning out to be a lot like the first one in the sense that they won't solely go for one tone the entire movie, there are probably elements of Spielberg (kids), Close Encounters (Mystery, Alien interruption), detective elements and of course the other Predator movies. In my book, that already sounds like some very interesting genre blending.
Other people want Predator with some more... well.. Predator, more of the same... and the same that we already had the same of.
The problem is, everyone knows the Predator, there is youtube, conventions, countless games, movies, comics etc... and there are a ton of people that won't give a shit if they make the same movie with the same Predator again, so now the studio says:
What if we give you a spin on the story, up the budget and add a couple of new critters that come with an all new Predator version? Mhmmm... like it or not, that's how you make money and get asses into seats, that's what they did with the
Fast and Furious series, they took the characters and the story and blended them with whole new genres... now a a dying franchise became a billion franchise that added another 6 movies, better movies.
And i gotta be honest, i love this franchise too much to not want to see a successful movie every couple of years.
