Alien V - Facts and Rumors Compilation (Provide Links)

[SiL]

Trematode can also go in the bin.

[Thatguy2068]

Ok... That was just a lot to take in.

1. I'm just gonna say I really don't like the mutated Xenomorph That much. I don't get why they need like change the design of the xenomorph with body horror Even A. Giger Designswas perfect in the first place and B. It's just less unsettling when it's done with aliens rather than humans.

2. This movie is very Kenner like. Yes, there's parts of Kenner that we enjoy, but we don't want them to be actually in the canon. If you want a grounded movie, get rid of those Xeno Technology made by Weyland Corporation or whatever

3. The Derelict being made by Xenomorph with human DNA to go through space... There is so much wrong with this. Where the hell did they get the human DNA? Did they get it from the engineers since they were like 99% to Humans Or was this actual human DNA? This is gonna be the stupidest decision to be made right next to David being the creator of aliens.

[Immortan Jonesy]

3. The Derelict being made by Xenomorph with human DNA to go through space... There is so much wrong with this. Where the hell did they get the human DNA? Did they get it from the engineers since they were like 99% to Humans Or was this actual human DNA? This is gonna be the stupidest decision to be made right next to David being the creator of aliens.

Yeah I am curious about the implications behind! Space Jockey may be an oddity ala Deacon born from the Engineers...who are ancient humanity anyway

[Nightmare Asylum]

I just don't think the story warrants the inclusion of Ripley, Newt and Hicks at all.

Interestingly, we know the idea originally didn't feature any of them. That only changed after Blomkamp met Sigourney and talked it over with her, on the set of Chappie.

3. The Derelict being made by Xenomorph with human DNA to go through space... There is so much wrong with this. Where the hell did they get the human DNA? Did they get it from the engineers since they were like 99% to Humans Or was this actual human DNA? This is gonna be the stupidest decision to be made right next to David being the creator of aliens.

If I had to guess...



...more or less.

I'm a bit confused if the idea is that the ORIGINAL Derelict was made with human DNA, or just biological matter in general. I'm guessing a new one was being made at the WY installation with human DNA over the course of the film, since human DNA is what the Aliens would have access to there in the moment.

[Immortan Jonesy]

Ridley must not have been to keen of the idea. I remember hearing in the past that he persuaded Neil not to touch the Engineers because of Covenant.

[Thatguy2068]

3. The Derelict being made by Xenomorph with human DNA to go through space... There is so much wrong with this. Where the hell did they get the human DNA? Did they get it from the engineers since they were like 99% to Humans Or was this actual human DNA? This is gonna be the stupidest decision to be made right next to David being the creator of aliens.

Yeah I am curious about the implications behind!Space Jockey may be an oddity ala Deacon born from the Engineers...who are ancient humanity anyway

Who Idea was this?

[Immortan Jonesy]

3. The Derelict being made by Xenomorph with human DNA to go through space... There is so much wrong with this. Where the hell did they get the human DNA? Did they get it from the engineers since they were like 99% to Humans Or was this actual human DNA? This is gonna be the stupidest decision to be made right next to David being the creator of aliens.

Yeah I am curious about the implications behind!Space Jockey may be an oddity ala Deacon born from the Engineers...who are ancient humanity anyway

Who Idea was this?

Neill Blomkamp's take on the Derelict / SJ and the human DNA🧬

[Thatguy2068]

I'm not against the idea of xenomorph Making Structures because alien labyrinth proof the idea can work, it's just not like this.

[Nightmare Asylum]

Ridley must not have been to keen of the idea. I remember hearing in the past that he persuaded Neil not to touch the Engineers because of Covenant.

Doesn't seem that that was the cause of anything, regarding the movie not happening, though. We know that Ridley asked Blomkamp to change one element about the script/treatment/idea that would have bumped into what he was doing with the prequels (not sure what, maybe Mike does?), which I guess could have been related to these details about the Derelict, but no way to know for sure just yet.

The project still seemed to be moving forward even after Ridley implemented his one mandate, though, and it was Fox that eventually snuffed out the project, so if the grown Derelict was still part of what the film was at the time of its cancelation, then I guess it likely wouldn't have been the element that would have conflicted with what Ridley was doing (which is interesting to think about, given that "Destiny" almost certainly would have had David in the chair, though perhaps the "Destiny" treatment/draft dates after Blomkamp's film was totally dead and buried and thus, the two ideas wouldn't have bumped into one another at the time Blomkamp originally put them on paper?).

The Blomkamp timeline is made very clear in Mike's video, but I'm a bit hazy on how the timeline of "Destiny" overlaps/runs parallel to it.

[Thatguy2068]

3. The Derelict being made by Xenomorph with human DNA to go through space... There is so much wrong with this. Where the hell did they get the human DNA? Did they get it from the engineers since they were like 99% to Humans Or was this actual human DNA? This is gonna be the stupidest decision to be made right next to David being the creator of aliens.

Yeah I am curious about the implications behind!Space Jockey may be an oddity ala Deacon born from the Engineers...who are ancient humanity anyway

Who Idea was this?

Neill Blomkamp's take on the Derelict / SJ and the human DNA

It just makes no sense, Who was the Space jockey? Why did it get face hugged if it was made by xenomoprh?

[Immortan Jonesy]

ADI's 4-Limbed Big Chap photographed by Mike was cool

[Thatguy2068]

ADI's 4-Limbed Big Chap photographed by Mike was cool

What's up with that, though? Is it like one of the Experiments or something else?

[GrimmVision]

I love the idea of these "bomber" ships, the derelict and juggernaut, being grown, but the human DNA aspect is troubling. I don't necessarily love the idea of the Aliens being able to reach a state of sentience to the point where they can build space-fairing ships. It gives them perhaps a bit too much agency where it isn't needed. I've always felt the Aliens manage to reach the darkest places in the galaxy because of other humanoid creatures thinking they know best and then being bested by the beast. (That's a fun sentence).

I'm struggling to understand, then, who or what the hell would be in the Derelict's chair. And why it would've been chest bursted?

[Thatguy2068]

I love the idea of these "bomber" ships, the derelict and juggernaut, being grown, but the human DNA aspect is troubling. I don't necessarily love the idea of the Aliens being able to reach a state of sentience to the point where they can build space-fairing ships. It gives them perhaps a bit too much agency where it isn't needed. I've always felt the Aliens manage to reach the darkest places in the galaxy because of other humanoid creatures thinking they know best and then being bested by the beast. (That's a fun sentence).

I'm struggling to understand, then, who or what the hell would be in the Derelict's chair. And why it would've been chest bursted?

Exactly, Has he rewatched the film? Did he watch the film at all?

[skhellter]

i can totally buy - given some comments elsewhere that hate the idea of the Derelict being partially organic, and their love for the AVP designs -
that this fanbase doesn't actually care that much for the biomechanical aesthetic or even the very idea of it.