Just re-watched AvP 2004.....

[Kradan]

Facehuggers were huge pain in ass in that game. At least in AvP games and Isolation you're mercifully sent back to last checkpoint after being facehugged. But in Resurrectiom game you could be facehugged half a dozen of times in a row which is super-annoying

On the other hand, each time you facehugged IIRC "chestburster counter"  is reset so in theory you can postpone "birth" for a long time if you find enough little bastards

[SiL]

I think once hugged the others ignore you, from memory.

[Kradan]

I remember it opposite way


https://youtu.be/SDKB1bsdkL8

Ok, I've checked this guy's video. As far as I can tell, yes, you can't be re-impregnated again, so no "chestburster counter" reset, but it's possible facehuggers would still wanna kiss your face anyway which takes precious time and makes you wanna tear your hair off

[Voodoo Magic]

Sure, but ET's skin isn't as convincing as the Newborn. The way that thing's flesh moves brings it to life.

To be fair, it does help when your skin is covered in slime and shot in low light. ET did not have such luxuries!

You knew this day would come, Voodoo. The Newborn is a national treasure now. Thanks to ADI 

[SiL]

The Newborn isn't shot in low light. And that wouldn't change the movement and physical properties of the skin.

[Voodoo Magic]

The Newborn isn't shot in low light. And that wouldn't change the movement and physical properties of the skin.

Sure compared to AvP Requiem it's well lit, but compared to most scenes in ET it's not. And the slime hides a lot. Alas, regardless of how I feel about its design, the Newborn is not a bad effect, I just would never qualify it as a marvel myself. Different strokes for different folks.

[Kimarhi]

The newborn looked like a pale booger. 

[Voodoo Magic]

The newborn looked like a pale booger.

I'm never going to u̶n̶s̶e̶e̶ unread this comparison now. 

[SiL]

Sure compared to AvP Requiem it's well lit, but compared to most scenes in ET it's not.

That's very disingenuous. Not being full daylight doesn't mean low light.

(And for the record I dislike the design and the concept. I just love the actual effect.)

[Voodoo Magic]

Sure compared to AvP Requiem it's well lit, but compared to most scenes in ET it's not.

That's very disingenuous. Not being full daylight doesn't mean low light.

(And for the record I dislike the design and the concept. I just love the actual effect.)

SiL. We both know Alien Resurrection. There's no room for, nor am I being "disingenuous" i.e. insincere or false. So please keep it respectful my man. We'll just end it here and agree to disagree.

[Kradan]

Does somebody wanna hear a joke ?

agree to disagree.

[Master]

I full truly and always will love and defend the Newborn. In fourth film of the franchise we thought we've seen it all and knew it all too well and then BAM! Newborn appears!  Disfigured,  grotesque yet sentient and, idk if it's good phrase,  relatable to. His mimics and eyes made him sad and lots on one hand and attacks of aggression, scary as f**k on the other. For me the live and fate of Newborn is tragedy also for Ripley because finally the only thing like her, related to her in whole universe is this innocent little monster she has to reject for good of corrupted mankind. God damn it, THAT was one hell of an ending!

On the technical side I'm with SiL. Newborn is animatronic marvel and should be acknowledged as such.

[BigDaddyJohn]

this innocent little monster

Gediman and DiStephano strongly disagrees 

[Kradan]

 

[OpenMaw]

After having watched the "Alienate" fanedit it is my own head canon that Ripley becomes the Newborn. (seriously, some of the cleverest editing I have ever seen, makes the movie a lot better.)

The concept of the Newborn was fine. I just wish that the regular adult creatures looked more like Aliens and less like generic space monsters, and I wish the Newborn had retained more of its nightmarish qualities from the various concepts. There was one where it would have been the size of a human child, very thin built. That would have been really cool.