Posted by BigDaddyJohn
- Yesterday at 12:50:21 PMQuote from: Elmazalman on Yesterday at 12:22:38 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Yesterday at 12:02:50 PMI think head crushes should appear in an alien movie. That's a nasty way of dying.
Perhaps the new film will deliver in that regard?
I'd like to see some more tail-slapping & spiking action.
Absolutely ! Tails are kinda under used in the movies.
Posted by Elmazalman
- Yesterday at 12:22:38 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Yesterday at 12:02:50 PMI think head crushes should appear in an alien movie. That's a nasty way of dying.
Perhaps the new film will deliver in that regard?
I'd like to see some more tail-slapping & spiking action.
Posted by BigDaddyJohn
- Yesterday at 12:02:50 PMI think head crushes should appear in an alien movie. That's a nasty way of dying.
Posted by Kradan
- Yesterday at 11:09:20 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Yesterday at 09:21:50 AM... the second one actually looks like a guy in a suit
Far too chubby in the waist area
Posted by SiL
- Yesterday at 10:50:34 AMThank you both! I'd seen it asserted but not the supporting arguments.
Posted by xeno_alpha_07
- Yesterday at 10:46:40 AMQuote from: SiL on Yesterday at 10:15:42 AMI've seen people describe it as a head crush, but the inner jaw and its use was decided by the time the suit was done and used in filming. I think rough cuts were done before the inserts and it just looks like the Alien is crushing Brett's head, but the blood was always meant to be from the bite.
Unless there's some BTS I've overlooked that confirms otherwise.
While the head bite was part of the original plan, Ridley sought to enhance the scene by introducing the concept of head squeezing, etc:
QuoteRidley brought me onto the stage and said: 'I want Brett to get it now, but I just don't want the creature to dart out and menace him to start with. I'd rather have it reach out and sort of caress his head -- almost kind of inquisitive at first. Then you see it squeeze up, and blood starts running down Brett's face, and it cracks his head open.' So we ended up doing it almost on the spur of the moment. We ran blood tubes up into Harry Dean Stanton's cap and through his hair. Then, when the alien started squeezing, we started pumping, and the blood ran out and down his face.
- Alien Effects Book
The presence of blood was initially intended due to the head being squeezed or crushed before the head bite occurred.
*Edit*
Wrote this before seeing Elmazalman's reply.
Posted by Elmazalman
- Yesterday at 10:44:17 AMQuote from: SiL on Yesterday at 10:15:42 AMI've seen people describe it as a head crush, but the inner jaw and its use was decided by the time the suit was done and used in filming. I think rough cuts were done before the inserts and it just looks like the Alien is crushing Brett's head, but the blood was always meant to be from the bite.
Unless there's some BTS I've overlooked that confirms otherwise.
The blood's coming from the Alien squeezing Brett's head open (Alien Ambience article from 1980). Scott, wanted the Alien to come in and gently caress Brett's head, before violently crushing it in its hands.
Walter Simonson, also described Brett's original death scene: first a head crush, then followed by a head-bite.
That's not to say the raw footage of the dripping blood couldn't also be edited to be a head-bite if needed.
Posted by SiL
- Yesterday at 10:15:42 AMI've seen people describe it as a head crush, but the inner jaw and its use was decided by the time the suit was done and used in filming. I think rough cuts were done before the inserts and it just looks like the Alien is crushing Brett's head, but the blood was always meant to be from the bite.
Unless there's some BTS I've overlooked that confirms otherwise.
Unless there's some BTS I've overlooked that confirms otherwise.
Posted by Elmazalman
- Yesterday at 10:12:22 AMThat production still looks like it's from the deleted 'head crush' scene?
It could also be an earlier (far bloodier) version of the head-bite (ultimately, a quick insert shot in the finished film) - the way the Alien's face / mouth is close up against the baseball cap ...
Whatever it is, it's an incredible visual. The blood is so red ...
It could also be an earlier (far bloodier) version of the head-bite (ultimately, a quick insert shot in the finished film) - the way the Alien's face / mouth is close up against the baseball cap ...
Whatever it is, it's an incredible visual. The blood is so red ...
Posted by SiL
- Yesterday at 09:51:57 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Yesterday at 09:21:50 AMThe first one looks far bloodier than what's in the film, and the second one actually looks like a guy in a suitFor the mid shot they had a tube under the hat pumping blood, but in the film they didn't use that angle and just went straight from a super tight close up of the impact to the shot from behind.
Posted by Elmazalman
- Yesterday at 09:30:57 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Yesterday at 09:21:50 AMThe first one looks far bloodier than what's in the film, and the second one actually looks like a guy in a suit
Still hoping for that de Lauzirika ALIEN supercut ...
Posted by BigDaddyJohn
- Yesterday at 09:21:50 AMThe first one looks far bloodier than what's in the film, and the second one actually looks like a guy in a suit
Posted by Elmazalman
- Yesterday at 06:46:56 AMFrom the FANGORIA vault:
(This image looks good flipped)
(This image looks good flipped)
Posted by BigDaddyJohn
- May 04, 2024, 03:58:19 PMQuote from: Elmazalman on May 04, 2024, 03:23:45 PMThe teeth don't look right, nor the jaws tendonsSpoiler
- if this is supposed to be the original Alien?[close]
It's not. New main xeno for the film. I agree on the tendons. I really like it besides that though.
Posted by Elmazalman
- May 04, 2024, 03:23:45 PMThe teeth don't look right, nor the jaws tendons
Spoiler
- if this is supposed to be the original Alien?
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