Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 10, 2024, 02:04:21 PMQuote from: Xenomrph on Jan 10, 2024, 03:27:29 AMQuote from: Acid_Reign161 on Jan 08, 2024, 08:17:59 PMSo just to clarify, this *exact* same topic from the same individual is now being spammed in the following threads:
In the Alien Films Section:
1. Why did the folk of Hadley's Hope not send a signal? thread
2. Was the Nostromo sent to LV-426 on Purpose? Thread
3. Alien 3: Why didn't the company return to LV-426? Thread
4. Was Burke working alone? Thread ** now locked because of it**
5. Aliens: An analysis **locked because of it**
6. Sulaco thread
7. The Egg on the Sulaco thread
And now here in the community news section:
8. Alien timeline updated thread.
Eight threads (and I'm sure I'm missing a couple). And when any of us speak out about it, there are some insinuating *we* are the problem, even though the ignore feature is overwritten by quotes. I honestly truly appreciate difference of opinion (each to their own! I'm aware some of my own opinions aren't popular!) But this is just making discussions really unenjoyable, and there's no escape from it. 😔
Surely this is at the point that it's infringing some sort of forum etiquette?
f**king seriously. I've just taken to reporting his posts like it's my one purpose on this earth.
SM has me on ignore, and I know he and I don't see eye to eye 100% of the time, but I can only pray ralfy's nonsense might get SM to reevaluate and say "huh, maybe this Xenomrph guy isn't so bad."
Come on, SM. We can work through this.
When did that happen?
There's no spamming because all of the threads are connected: if the company is involved and it makes sense for the colonists to both be excited over and then panic because of the alien ship and aliens, then that means Burke was lying to Ripley about not knowing what happened to the colony.
Is there a basis for the company having enough information about the creature? Yes: given the first movie, they instructed Mother to reroute the Nostromo to the new coordinates. That means the company had the location of the distress beacon, and thus the alien ship.
Why didn't the company return to LV-426? Likely it did, but the derelict ship must have been damaged by the nuclear blast such that they needed the alien from Ripley. How did they know? According to Bishop in the third movie, the Sulaco computer was sending all details on that and more to the company.
Given that, how can we say that Burke was working alone when he was part of a division tasked to acquire alien organisms by a company that's been keenly interested in them for profit-making as early as the first movie, and even earlier if we consider the prequels?
Aren't all of these part of an analysis of
Aliens?
What was involved in Burke's mission? The Sulaco? Which computer was sending info to the company, according to Burke? The one on the Sulaco. Which one was operated by the company and manned by a synth that's supposed to work for the military (because he was tasked to, among others, operate the APC) and yet receives orders from Burke (given the second movie)? The Sulaco.
Finally, aren't all these part of the timeline?
To recap, following the prequels, the company knew about the aliens.
Then it formed a bio-weapons division and the ICC implemented quarantine protocols involving exposure to and smuggling dangerous organisms. Did that have anything to do with the prequels?
Mother and W-Y were talking back-and-forth, with the latter receiving information on the coordinates of the distress beacon, whose signal was even partially decoded and said to be a warning, not a call for help. That not only indicates signs of intelligent life, but given the remoteness of the location, one that might even have tech that's as advanced as or even better than that of human beings. Hence, the reference to the bio-weapons division and the special order. Does that mean that W-Y cares to profit from them?
W-Y had the coordinates even then, but did not bother to look for the derelict ship if we follow the arguments raised by those who think that Burke worked alone. What about
Isolation, which states that they did? Or the
Colonial Marines manual?
In the second movie, the ICC and ECA reps don't bother to investigate the coordinates given in lifeboat recorder, and for some bizarre reason Ripley does not press them on to do so even if it's the only evidence she has to prove her case. Is it because according to the W-Y Report the company scrubbed the coordinates from the logs?
If it's only in the second movie that W-Y took interest in the derelict ship because they received the coordinates from the logs, then what happened to the same information that they received from Mother decades earlier?
