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Author Topic: About the Alien novelisations based on the movies  (Read 1125 times)

Mar 10, 2007, 05:02:34 AM
Topic on: Mar 10, 2007, 05:02:34 AM
Are these canonical or not?

Corporal Hicks
Mar 10, 2007, 11:33:08 AM
Reply #1 on: Mar 10, 2007, 11:33:08 AM
I think they're the next level of canon below the movies themselves. SM'll tell you when he sees the read.

Mar 10, 2007, 11:37:00 AM
Reply #2 on: Mar 10, 2007, 11:37:00 AM
The script itself is the next level of canon. The AvP novelization was nothing like the final script.

Mar 23, 2007, 07:10:22 AM
Reply #3 on: Mar 23, 2007, 07:10:22 AM
Novelizations are on the same level of canon as any other tie-in novel. The fact that they're based on the script as a movie or an older version of the script doesn't make a difference. In his novelizations Alan Dean Foster changed almost every piece of dialogue, making it longer and more literary-sounding. There are also numerous plot deviations. For example, in the Alien novelization they find the singal transmitter and never see the Space Jockey, in the Aliens novelization Bishop never does the knife trick and in the Alien 3 novelization the ox replaces the dog and Dillon gets out before the lead is poured in.

The Alien Resurrection is the most faithful to the movie but even it clearly isn't based on the final draft of the script. Important pieces of dialogue are missing or changed, some scenes are in the wrong order, there are 20 aliens instead of 12 and some of the action scenes happen differently.

I've also heard that in the Predator novelization the Predator was some kind shapeshifter and even had the power to control animals, although I'm not sure this is true.

The AVP novelizations is different from the movie in every way. There are too many differences to mention. The most obvious one is that there are 5 Predators. At the end of the book, hundreds of aliens show up from nowhere.

Some people like to include elements of a contradictory story into their personal canon while leaving out other elements. I do this myself when it comes to things like encyclopedias or technical manuals but novels don't have any 'elements'; they are one whole story that can only be read from beginning to end. It can't be separated into elements in any logical way.

Mar 23, 2007, 11:04:27 AM
Reply #4 on: Mar 23, 2007, 11:04:27 AM
First let's be clear.

There is no official Alien canon the same was as there is with Star Wars.

Fox have never come down and said this is canon and this isn't.

However all fans consider the films to be the highest level of canon.  After that it's down to personal interpretation.

I consider novelisations canon where they don't conflict with the film.  Same with scripts or any other background info.

Comics, novels and video games often conflict with each other and a lot of people don't consider them a true extension of the films - and increasingly it appears Fox don't either since new authors aren't brought up to speed on existing info.

Mind you I tend to find that Predator fans regard comic/ novel info more canon than Alien fans (though some reel off reams of Predator info, that can't possibly be gleaned from the films alone - but then say the comics aren't canon).  Possibly because there isn't as much film info about Predators as there is Aliens.

So ultimately it's up to the individual.

Just remember, the next time someone says "The comics aren't canon" - it's just opinion; a pretty well founded opinion, but still an opinion nonetheless.


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