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Author Topic: Disney & Fox Confirm Alien Series Remains In Devel...  (Read 6922 times)

The Old One
Apr 04, 2019, 08:01:06 PM
Reply #75 on: Apr 04, 2019, 08:01:06 PM
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A L I E N: CARPATHIA (The Carpathian mountains, Dracula's residence aka David,
and the film's vessel title- paralleling the "Titanic's saviour.")

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Evanus
Apr 04, 2019, 08:12:00 PM
Reply #76 on: Apr 04, 2019, 08:12:00 PM
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On one hand I like the Alien being created by the Space Jockey instead of David, on the other hand it kinda goes against what Covenant tried to establish. But then again it could be a really interesting development for David's character, which I like.. It all depends on how it's handled.

I remember Ridley implying the Alien would sort of evolve on its own without David, so maybe they'll just stick to that.


SuperiorIronman
Apr 04, 2019, 08:37:28 PM
Reply #77 on: Apr 04, 2019, 08:37:28 PM
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I've definitely warmed up to the Deacon so even if the Alien is a creation by David, there is still a lot worth exploring of the early variation of the Deacon. We can get a lot out of that especially seeing as Prometheus already established a precedent for them having accidents which releases the goo. That even lends itself to fascinating stories among the Engineers own people with them accidentally consuming the substance and potentially resulting in more Deacons. We know the goo is meant for war and so what that means to a race who seems more artistically inclined is interesting storytelling avenues.

The Alien life-cycle the more I think about it is just unwieldy Post-Alien 3 so I'd be all for starting largely fresh with the Engineers trying to wrangle their own creations and the lore that develops around that than watch more people run from a drone.


The Old One
Apr 04, 2019, 08:47:36 PM
Reply #78 on: Apr 04, 2019, 08:47:36 PM
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No... The Deacon design's awful- a Neomorph variant aberration, and the Engineers?
Depthless space human ancestors, Last and First Men shit space opera.

The Alien lifecycle's perfect as is.
And horrific as ever, as Isolation, The Cold Forge and the Tongal Films prove.

Neomorphs are the imperfect version of the Alien, the Alien is the perfect version.
 

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[cancerblack]
Apr 04, 2019, 09:31:40 PM
Reply #79 on: Apr 04, 2019, 09:31:40 PM
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No... The Deacon design's awful- a Neomorph variant aberration, and the Engineers?
Depthless space human ancestors, Last and First Men shit space opera.

The Alien lifecycle's perfect as is.
And horrific as ever, as Isolation, The Cold Forge and the Tongal Films prove.

Neomorphs are the imperfect version of the Alien, the Alien is the perfect version.
 


I'd go for neomorphs in deacon metallic blue colours tbh


The Old One
Apr 04, 2019, 09:35:58 PM
Reply #80 on: Apr 04, 2019, 09:35:58 PM
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Translucent pigmentless version's the best. No I love the Neomorph as is, No alteration.





Elicitation of H.R Giger's art, but biomechanics absent.



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[cancerblack]
Apr 04, 2019, 09:38:48 PM
Reply #81 on: Apr 04, 2019, 09:38:48 PM
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Endless variation for me. They're not finished yet, there'll be ones with errors or recessive stuff which is fine.


LV-12986
Apr 04, 2019, 09:54:53 PM
Reply #82 on: Apr 04, 2019, 09:54:53 PM
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I just want to see a film with xeno’s, colonial marines, pulse rifles, smartguns, flamethrowers, sulaco shape ships, dropships, apcs and I would like to see it soon!!


The Old One
Apr 04, 2019, 10:22:00 PM
Reply #83 on: Apr 04, 2019, 10:22:00 PM
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Nostalgia festival? Beyond my comprehension tbh.

The first four things, Alien, Military, Pulse Rifle, Smart-Gun, I understand.

A Conestoga vessel(s)? No original design(s)? C'mon.
New military hardware and old military hardware please.

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Perfect-Organism
Apr 04, 2019, 11:22:31 PM
Reply #84 on: Apr 04, 2019, 11:22:31 PM
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I dont like the idea of retconning alien 3, it makes sense in the Terminator since it deals with time travel and already has multiple timelines. I think they should start doing separate stand alone Alien movies after they finish the David story.

The Aliens universe already has multiple timelines.  Ever see those AVP films?

Retcon it.

Nostalgia festival? Beyond my comprehension tbh.

The first four things, Alien, Military, Pulse Rifle, Smart-Gun, I understand.

A Conestoga vessel(s)? No original design(s)? C'mon.

New military hardware and old military hardware please.

ALL OF THIS is an exercise in nostalgia.  If it wasn't for our collectively preconceived notions about the Aliens series we wouldn't be here.  You cannot escape nostalgia when you're playing in the sandbox that someone already established.  If you want originality, create completely new sci-fi that does not lean on an existing series.  Otherwise, come to grips with the fact that you're engaging in a nostalgia exercise and stop deluding yourself otherwise.

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Nightmare Asylum
Apr 05, 2019, 12:28:08 AM
Reply #85 on: Apr 05, 2019, 12:28:08 AM
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Starting "fresh" with Terminator and killing everything post-T2 Halloween-style makes sense. Everything after that second film, at least in my opinion, has been dire and utterly forgettable, with nothing of note to them to make me want to revisit them, or even remember that they exist. And for those out there that do care about them about about the continuity post-T2, it is a franchise that involves time travel so if you really wanted to you could chalk it up to being an alternate timeline.

With Alien... even the weaker films are at least conceptually interesting and are executed in such a way that they feel as though they actually have merit for existing, that they have something to say and contribute to the universe and, even more importantly, as films in their own right.

Nothing against Blomkamp, I do enjoy the guy's stuff for what it is, but his take on Alien is, at least in my humble opinion, not at all what the franchise needs. Let him do Robocop, which is much more in line with his grounded, hyperrealistic sci-fi visuals and tongue-in-cheek satire. And let Alien wrap up the story that it is currently telling, and then move forward into some new uncharted territory.

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pasghetti
Apr 05, 2019, 01:06:33 AM
Reply #86 on: Apr 05, 2019, 01:06:33 AM
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please let Ridley Scott finish his prequel trilogy. That's all I ask


The Old One
Apr 05, 2019, 07:52:06 AM
Reply #87 on: Apr 05, 2019, 07:52:06 AM
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Nostalgia festival? Beyond my comprehension tbh.

The first four things, Alien, Military, Pulse Rifle, Smart-Gun, I understand.

A Conestoga vessel(s)? No original design(s)? C'mon.
New military hardware and old military hardware please.

ALL OF THIS is an exercise in nostalgia.  If it wasn't for our collectively preconceived notions about the Alien series we wouldn't be here.  You cannot escape nostalgia when you're playing in the sandbox that someone already established.  If you want originality, create completely new sci-fi that does not lean on an existing series.  Otherwise, come to grips with the fact that you're engaging in a nostalgia exercise and stop deluding yourself otherwise.

Neither James Cameron or David Fincher just regurgitated what Ridley Scott did.
"Stop deluding yourself." Mature and revealing.
If nostalgia is all you want, go rewatch the old films.
I'd much rather new content creators expand the sandbox by playing with the basic concept,
the Alien itself is the only element that need not be f**ked with, just like Mad Max in Mad Max, everything else is up for change.

Starting "fresh" with Terminator and killing everything post-T2 Halloween-style makes sense. Everything after that second film, at least in my opinion, has been dire and utterly forgettable, with nothing of note to them to make me want to revisit them, or even remember that they exist. And for those out there that do care about them about about the continuity post-T2, it is a franchise that involves time travel so if you really wanted to you could chalk it up to being an alternate timeline.

With Alien... even the weaker films are at least conceptually interesting and are executed in such a way that they feel as though they actually have merit for existing, that they have something to say and contribute to the universe and, even more importantly, as films in their own right.

Nothing against  Neill Blomkamp, I do enjoy the guy's stuff for what it is, but his take on Alien is, at least in my humble opinion, not at all what the franchise needs. Let him do Robocop, which is much more in line with his grounded, hyperrealistic sci-fi visuals and tongue-in-cheek satire. And let Alien wrap up the story that it is currently telling, and then move forward into some new uncharted territory.
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Perfect-Organism
Apr 05, 2019, 10:48:08 AM
Reply #88 on: Apr 05, 2019, 10:48:08 AM
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It's not an insult to suggest that anyone who wants another film in the Aliens series is delusional in thinking that they're not engaging in nostalgia.  It's not intended that way, and it's not entirely aimed at you.  I am just calling it what it is.  All of us want an Aliens film in one form or another, and that arises from our past experiences.  Even if you make the most innovative Aliens film you can think of, it is still not an exercise in pure originality.  It is nostalgia.  I'm just honest about it.


U-96
Apr 05, 2019, 01:12:53 PM
Reply #89 on: Apr 05, 2019, 01:12:53 PM
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Perfect-organism, I agree. Consciously or not, any entry in the franchise is compared to the gold standard of Alien (and possibly Aliens) because they were fenomenal AND we grew up with them.


 

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