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Author Topic: SEQUEL NEWS: Fox Struggling with Hiring Writers  (Read 42769 times)

atlantis
Apr 15, 2013, 04:23:05 AM
Reply #240 on: Apr 15, 2013, 04:23:05 AM
Juggernaut approaching paradise



T Dog
Apr 15, 2013, 11:24:50 AM
Reply #241 on: Apr 15, 2013, 11:24:50 AM
I'm thinking now that they (FOX) have returned to the ALIEN 3 scenario where they are avoiding trying to make the "planet of the Alien" film due to cost and the potential difficulties of production.

They really shouldn't have spent a gigantic budget making a silly remake of ALIEN with no real story when they could have done what they did in about a half hour and then spent the rest of Prometheus on the Engineer home world.

Sure Prometheus made money but it turned a lot of people off and a sequel isn't a sure-fire success story so I'm guessing they are looking for a more budget conscious sequel unfortunately.


Xenomorphine
Apr 20, 2013, 07:29:39 PM
Reply #242 on: Apr 20, 2013, 07:29:39 PM
I said it before, but I still think that when we meet up with Shaw again she should be a bit bio-mechanical herself, like the Engineer's suit at the end of Prometheus (so that she can connect to the Juggernaut's cryopods).

Yay! Let's turn her into a Machiko Noguchi clone! :laugh:


Omegamorph
Apr 20, 2013, 08:37:17 PM
Reply #243 on: Apr 20, 2013, 08:37:17 PM
She's already implied to be, then, given she was able to fly one of them ships.


Blacklabel
Apr 20, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
Reply #244 on: Apr 20, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
I said it before, but I still think that when we meet up with Shaw again she should be a bit bio-mechanical herself, like the Engineer's suit at the end of Prometheus (so that she can connect to the Juggernaut's cryopods).

Yay! Let's turn her into a Machiko Noguchi clone! :laugh:

Lol Not really. Even if she turns a bit biomechanical, she still wouldnt be "welcomed" into Engineer society. :P As per Prometheus, humans are all meant to be destroyed.



Blacklabel
Apr 20, 2013, 09:16:02 PM
Reply #246 on: Apr 20, 2013, 09:16:02 PM
Not showing exactly how the ship is being operated really leaves lots of open options to explore in the sequel :P




The Dark Shape
Apr 23, 2013, 01:51:36 AM
Reply #249 on: Apr 23, 2013, 01:51:36 AM
I feel like the central problem to a Prometheus sequel is that which plagued the concept of an Alien prequel for years. Ridley’s concept was to make a film centered on the Space Jockeys. He frustrated the idea because its damn near impossible to make an accessible film to audiences about Alien beings that don’t feature humans themselves. Think about it, a film where creatures interact who do not speak a language that anyone can understand. A culture that is entirely beyond comprehension because of the nature of what it is. How can anyone, even someone as talented as Ridley Scott be expected to deliver a product that would revolve around that and STILL involve mainstream audiences.

He was sold on the Spaihts pitch because Jon found a way to make it a human story that bisected with the Jockey story. It certainly wasn’t a groundbreaking idea; voyage into space, discovery of intelligent life, etc, but it worked in terms of getting the audience to relate to what was happening on screen. It became a story of man and much less a story of Engineers. We’ve now been teased that the next installment will be the story of the Engineers and the same problem still exists, how does Ridley make an engrossing and enthralling cinematic movie about a culture that has only tenuous roots to humanity?

So we’re back to the notion that Ridley has to explain, maybe not fully, but on a much bigger canvas, has to explain and represent this Jockey race and craft a two hour plus motion picture around them and their culture. That’s the territory he’s boxed himself into, only in this occasion, there is a human and a robot to place the story around. The next script will truly have to be creative and ingenious to make the idea fly.


Darth Vile
Apr 25, 2013, 10:23:44 AM
Reply #250 on: Apr 25, 2013, 10:23:44 AM
I feel like the central problem to a Prometheus sequel is that which plagued the concept of an Alien prequel for years. Ridley’s concept was to make a film centered on the Space Jockeys. He frustrated the idea because its damn near impossible to make an accessible film to audiences about Alien beings that don’t feature humans themselves. Think about it, a film where creatures interact who do not speak a language that anyone can understand. A culture that is entirely beyond comprehension because of the nature of what it is. How can anyone, even someone as talented as Ridley Scott be expected to deliver a product that would revolve around that and STILL involve mainstream audiences.

He was sold on the Spaihts pitch because Jon found a way to make it a human story that bisected with the Jockey story. It certainly wasn’t a groundbreaking idea; voyage into space, discovery of intelligent life, etc, but it worked in terms of getting the audience to relate to what was happening on screen. It became a story of man and much less a story of Engineers. We’ve now been teased that the next installment will be the story of the Engineers and the same problem still exists, how does Ridley make an engrossing and enthralling cinematic movie about a culture that has only tenuous roots to humanity?

So we’re back to the notion that Ridley has to explain, maybe not fully, but on a much bigger canvas, has to explain and represent this Jockey race and craft a two hour plus motion picture around them and their culture. That’s the territory he’s boxed himself into, only in this occasion, there is a human and a robot to place the story around. The next script will truly have to be creative and ingenious to make the idea fly.
I agree with all that. If you can't humanise a story you have problems. That was always the biggest risk with going back to the origin of the SJ's as it had to involve human interaction in some shape or form for it to work.


ChrisPachi
Apr 27, 2013, 11:48:33 AM
Reply #251 on: Apr 27, 2013, 11:48:33 AM
We've now been teased that the next installment will be the story of the Engineers and the same problem still exists, how does Ridley make an engrossing and enthralling cinematic movie about a culture that has only tenuous roots to humanity?

Tenuous roots? Did you even watch the movie? :P

That was always the biggest risk with going back to the origin of the SJ's as it had to involve human interaction in some shape or form for it to work.

I am sure that we can all agree that a sub-titled movie starring a cast of Space Jockeys speaking native alien would of been a popular flop, but it doesn't follow that in order to make a popular movie about aliens one has to humanise the aliens.


Darth Vile
Apr 28, 2013, 11:54:20 PM
Reply #252 on: Apr 28, 2013, 11:54:20 PM
We've now been teased that the next installment will be the story of the Engineers and the same problem still exists, how does Ridley make an engrossing and enthralling cinematic movie about a culture that has only tenuous roots to humanity?

Tenuous roots? Did you even watch the movie? :P

That was always the biggest risk with going back to the origin of the SJ's as it had to involve human interaction in some shape or form for it to work.

I am sure that we can all agree that a sub-titled movie starring a cast of Space Jockeys speaking native alien would of been a popular flop, but it doesn't follow that in order to make a popular movie about aliens one has to humanise the aliens.
I wasn't necessarily talking about humanising the SJ's... although there is clearly a logistical requirement to make them work on set/on screen - otherwise it could end up looking like Avatar meets Return of the Jedi's Jabba the Hutt.


A_Sexual_Tyrannosaurus
May 11, 2013, 01:46:43 AM
Reply #253 on: May 11, 2013, 01:46:43 AM
While it would certainly depend on the script and the director (if Ridley is gven the boot). I can see Fox pulling and Aliens and making the sequel more action packed, perhaps dealing with a rescue team sent to find out what happened to the Pormetheus? Again, whether or not it works would depend entirely on the script.


RobThom
May 14, 2013, 06:22:39 AM
Reply #254 on: May 14, 2013, 06:22:39 AM
Everybody who feels sorry for fox and ridley after they hired lindelof,
read his re-write,
and then filmed his re-write,
please line up single file in front of this giant steamroller.

And then close your eyes.





 

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