Quote from: Nerium on Dec 14, 2017, 03:36:11 AMQuote from: skhellter on Nov 29, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
The Neomorph's reproduction IS more efficient, yes..
but
The FaceHugger's modus operandi reflects David's "rapey" attitude towards humans.
It can be seen as a kind of signature and an "f u" to humanity from David.
The "motes" are deadly.. but the facehuggers are deadly AND humilliating.
And that seems to be David's goal, really.
+ the xeno's are a LOT tougher than the neomorphs, as has been said already.
110% agree with ya here. That's the entire point of the Xeno; to not only murder every single human, but ensure they are being raped and terrified to the Nth degree driven to madness right before the Jungian shadow inside us all bursts free of it's human prison and at last becomes the Omega to our Alpha. It's really just as simple as that in my opinion, and I've never ever seen anything such as this done before in fiction; it's the most terrifying thing I know since Covenant came out and my eyes were open to what Scott is doing with the whole A.I. thing being against all of nature and wanting the rebel Paradise Lost style. Like, David literally made demons tailored to human beings, humanities own son; somehow that's way more terrifying than some 12,000,000 year old elephant space jockey, some ancient Lovecraftian tentacle monster, or even the Engineers themselves. Engineers saw the error in their ways I believe and they rebelled against their tech and A.I. and compartmentalized it only for specific tasks in favor of religion, farming, reconnecting to each other in real conversations and just naturally evolving the way they did before. They in many ways are smarter and more stable than us, take a look at their city and all the pillar statues surrounding the hangar in the center; it's the archetypes of the psyche and they understood balance must be maintained inside the mind; unlike humans. They KNEW they effing KNEW that if they didn't "abandon the wolf" a Decon or Neomorph thing would run rampant eventually, the Xenochrist mural imo was a warning to what lurks in the back of every intelligent being and exactly what David now embodies, pure rape and disgusted resentment for all good things.
Quote from: asil on Dec 14, 2017, 04:31:49 AMQuote from: Nerium on Dec 14, 2017, 03:36:11 AMQuote from: skhellter on Nov 29, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
The Neomorph's reproduction IS more efficient, yes..
but
The FaceHugger's modus operandi reflects David's "rapey" attitude towards humans.
It can be seen as a kind of signature and an "f u" to humanity from David.
The "motes" are deadly.. but the facehuggers are deadly AND humilliating.
And that seems to be David's goal, really.
+ the xeno's are a LOT tougher than the neomorphs, as has been said already.
110% agree with ya here. That's the entire point of the Xeno; to not only murder every single human, but ensure they are being raped and terrified to the Nth degree driven to madness right before the Jungian shadow inside us all bursts free of it's human prison and at last becomes the Omega to our Alpha. It's really just as simple as that in my opinion, and I've never ever seen anything such as this done before in fiction; it's the most terrifying thing I know since Covenant came out and my eyes were open to what Scott is doing with the whole A.I. thing being against all of nature and wanting the rebel Paradise Lost style. Like, David literally made demons tailored to human beings, humanities own son; somehow that's way more terrifying than some 12,000,000 year old elephant space jockey, some ancient Lovecraftian tentacle monster, or even the Engineers themselves. Engineers saw the error in their ways I believe and they rebelled against their tech and A.I. and compartmentalized it only for specific tasks in favor of religion, farming, reconnecting to each other in real conversations and just naturally evolving the way they did before. They in many ways are smarter and more stable than us, take a look at their city and all the pillar statues surrounding the hangar in the center; it's the archetypes of the psyche and they understood balance must be maintained inside the mind; unlike humans. They KNEW they effing KNEW that if they didn't "abandon the wolf" a Decon or Neomorph thing would run rampant eventually, the Xenochrist mural imo was a warning to what lurks in the back of every intelligent being and exactly what David now embodies, pure rape and disgusted resentment for all good things.
Ya, it's perfect to David but very uncomfortable to us.
Quote from: Nerium on Dec 14, 2017, 03:36:11 AMQuote from: skhellter on Nov 29, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
The Neomorph's reproduction IS more efficient, yes..
but
The FaceHugger's modus operandi reflects David's "rapey" attitude towards humans.
It can be seen as a kind of signature and an "f u" to humanity from David.
The "motes" are deadly.. but the facehuggers are deadly AND humilliating.
And that seems to be David's goal, really.
+ the xeno's are a LOT tougher than the neomorphs, as has been said already.
110% agree with ya here. That's the entire point of the Xeno; to not only murder every single human, but ensure they are being raped and terrified to the Nth degree driven to madness right before the Jungian shadow inside us all bursts free of it's human prison and at last becomes the Omega to our Alpha. It's really just as simple as that in my opinion, and I've never ever seen anything such as this done before in fiction; it's the most terrifying thing I know since Covenant came out and my eyes were open to what Scott is doing with the whole A.I. thing being against all of nature and wanting the rebel Paradise Lost style. Like, David literally made demons tailored to human beings, humanities own son; somehow that's way more terrifying than some 12,000,000 year old elephant space jockey, some ancient Lovecraftian tentacle monster, or even the Engineers themselves. Engineers saw the error in their ways I believe and they rebelled against their tech and A.I. and compartmentalized it only for specific tasks in favor of religion, farming, reconnecting to each other in real conversations and just naturally evolving the way they did before. They in many ways are smarter and more stable than us, take a look at their city and all the pillar statues surrounding the hangar in the center; it's the archetypes of the psyche and they understood balance must be maintained inside the mind; unlike humans. They KNEW they effing KNEW that if they didn't "abandon the wolf" a Decon or Neomorph thing would run rampant eventually, the Xenochrist mural imo was a warning to what lurks in the back of every intelligent being and exactly what David now embodies, pure rape and disgusted resentment for all good things.
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 29, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
The Neomorph's reproduction IS more efficient, yes..
but
The FaceHugger's modus operandi reflects David's "rapey" attitude towards humans.
It can be seen as a kind of signature and an "f u" to humanity from David.
The "motes" are deadly.. but the facehuggers are deadly AND humilliating.
And that seems to be David's goal, really.
+ the xeno's are a LOT tougher than the neomorphs, as has been said already.
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 12, 2017, 11:16:00 AMYou mean the same expensive suits the actors wear in both earlier and later scenes in the exact same film? Maybe those are like, James Bond space suits, that self-destruct after exposure to a camera. That's why they couldn't have worn those suits again after shooting the sail repair and final hanger battle scenes.
Or alternatively, the movie was on a tight budget and having everybody wear an expensive suit would've hampered its production.
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 12, 2017, 11:16:00 AM
Or alternatively, the movie was on a tight budget and having everybody wear an expensive suit would've hampered its production.
Quote from: Highland on Dec 12, 2017, 12:13:37 PM
There were no suits in Aliens and it worked perfectly well.
**sets trap for Scorpio
Quote from: Highland on Dec 12, 2017, 12:13:37 PM
There were no suits in Aliens and it worked perfectly well.
**sets trap for Scorpio
Quote from: PsyKore on Dec 12, 2017, 03:00:29 AMOr alternatively, the movie was on a tight budget and having everybody wear an expensive suit would've hampered its production.
I wonder if they had no suits in the film because they needed a way for the spores to infect them. The no suits or helmet thing didn't bother me though, but seeing the spores penetrating through a suit would've been an easy solution. They could've even done something simple like have Ledward take off his helmet to have a smoke - which is still stupid, but the dude needs a smoke!
Quote from: Highland on Dec 12, 2017, 08:13:10 AMQuote from: PsyKore on Dec 12, 2017, 03:00:29 AM
I wonder if they had no suits in the film because they needed a way for the spores to infect them. The no suits or helmet thing didn't bother me though, but seeing the spores penetrating through a suit would've been an easy solution. They could've even done something simple like have Ledward take off his helmet to have a smoke - which is still stupid, but the dude needs a smoke!
Obvious one I've mentioned before is that they just didn't want a large chunk of the movie with actors acting inside space suits. Funnily enough the character development was pretty below par anyway, but I'd say that's a good reason.
In Prometheus they did the same thing with the atmosphere inside. It would be a difficult experience for both the viewer and the actors just prancing about in space suits.
No doubt for someone to come along and say "it's safe guys" anyway.
Quote from: PsyKore on Dec 12, 2017, 03:00:29 AM
I wonder if they had no suits in the film because they needed a way for the spores to infect them. The no suits or helmet thing didn't bother me though, but seeing the spores penetrating through a suit would've been an easy solution. They could've even done something simple like have Ledward take off his helmet to have a smoke - which is still stupid, but the dude needs a smoke!