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Posted by Russ840
 - Apr 15, 2017, 04:42:00 PM
Laying on my bed at camp with a laptop on my chest watching a pirated copy of the movie. I remember I was less cultured back then and enjoyed the film. Can't watch it now.
Posted by Ratchetcomand
 - Apr 15, 2017, 04:25:44 AM
I follow the news for AVP on the news before it was release in 2004. I grew up with the series since the mid 90's and I remember being hype up for the movie. I saw the movie during the summer at my Summer Camp and they would allow PG-13 movies on the field trip if you get a parent signature. So we all agree to see AVP. I like it when I first saw it despite me being really let down inside. The movie got worst with each viewing, but I do think the special effects are good.

Reading this thread, it seems like AVP was the first movie in the series that they saw. Makes me feel a bit old.
Posted by Ragonk_Force
 - Mar 15, 2017, 05:58:33 PM
Rage
Posted by Valaquen
 - Dec 12, 2016, 06:38:28 PM
I can't even remember seeing this movie the first time around. I largely ignored it on release. I had read the AVP comic by Dark Horse in the 90's and, seeing the film was not going to be like that, I just let it pass on by. I saw it later on DVD and it wasn't anything special.

I do remember my brother coming back from seeing AVP:R and telling me it was even worse than the first one. I didn't believe him at all, and even went out and bought the DVD... lesson learned.
Posted by SuicideDoors
 - Dec 12, 2016, 06:31:02 PM
Alien vs Predator ripped the fanbase apart. I remember AvP Galaxy disbanded such was the negative reaction to the film. I forced myself to love it cause it was the first "Alien" film I saw at the cinema. I knew it was shit really. Everything is lightweight about it apart from the sets which are ok. ADI's creature work is abysmal; the cast and characters are shit and it's as cheesy and ineptly written as f**k.
Posted by BishopShouldGo
 - Dec 12, 2016, 03:59:19 PM
Ooooooph. This f**king movie. 12 year old me knew in the theater that I was in deep trouble the moment I saw that car pulling up to the satellite place. I don't know why but I just KNEW. Intuition was telling me that this was very wrong and very bad.

I left the theater dejected and despondent. I had been HAD. They gave me an 80 minute terrible movie. My word.
Posted by Bughunter S. Thomson
 - Dec 12, 2016, 04:10:26 AM
I had heard nothing good from the reviews and someone gave me a cam copy so rather than go to the cinema, I watched it at home. There was so much wrong with it. Despite the gory horror of the two sources, it was a predictable softcore monster mash. The rules of the Predator were picked up and dropped at will, and the chestbursters became chestnudgers, emerging carefully and relatively blood-free and became fully grown selectable characters in minutes. I just waited for characters to die, and the Queen big fight scene had my eyes rolling. The aliens and the Queen seem to both be more like the Raptors and T-Rex from Jurassic Park.

It ended and I thought "Well, Paul WS Anderson directing, PG-13 rating... What was I expecting?"   
Posted by echobbase79
 - Dec 12, 2016, 03:21:51 AM
Yeah, I left the theater really pissed off. Also, I didn't know it was PG-13 until I bought my ticket. The movie had a great opening shot and then from there on I was pretty much bored. The fight scene between Celtic and Grid livened things up for a few moments, but after that it was back to more snoozing. The only moment where I really stood up and cheered (not literally) was when Scar jumped through the air and stabbed the Queen through the crown with his spear. Other than that I thought I'd been hit by a train. Also, my hatred for Paul Anderson was born.

I did think it was better than Resurrection and went back to the tone of the earlier Predator and Alien films.

Of course that's all in the past. AvP isn't all that bad and I enjoy it. My hatred for PA is all gone and I really enjoy most of his older movies. I still can't stand RE though. Never saw his take on The Three Musketeers.

So that was my experience.
Posted by happypred
 - Nov 18, 2016, 02:36:37 AM
I was extremely disappointed by AvP 2004 in the cinema

The unceremonial offing of two preds in the beginning was only one factor

It was mostly the PG-13 feel and cringey dynamic between Lex and Scar...really ruined my experience

The fights sucked as well. The Celtic vs. Grid WWE throwdown was laughable, regardless of who won.

Illogical things, like random items of melting gear, also left me scratching my head
Posted by SM
 - Nov 18, 2016, 02:24:41 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 17, 2016, 03:44:04 PM
Some of the designs were naff, but I didn't think the technical side of the effects work was bad at all. Especially given that they did it all on a tight budget.

The Chestburster looked fine. The fact the sequence was virtually bloodless was a joke, but the actual puppet looked pretty good. Saying it's "the worst on screen aside from maybe the oxburster" is just daft, because at the very least it looked leagues better than the tooth penis ones in Resurrection.

Rousseau's chestburster is the worst one ever committed to film.  Sebastian's is the second worst.
Posted by SamuelDL
 - Nov 18, 2016, 01:58:23 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 17, 2016, 10:22:55 AM
The effects are actually pretty good, even now. I certainly wouldn't list them among the film's faults.

Completely agree with you. What happens is that at that time my brother wanted more CGI, being the novelty. I remember that I had said that it was very noticeable that the Aliens and Predators were people in disguise. I do not know, maybe he does not value the practical special effects.
Posted by g2vd
 - Nov 17, 2016, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: Kaltes on Jul 10, 2016, 07:50:05 PM
Quote from: Denton Smalls on Jul 10, 2016, 07:31:03 PM
That scene where the Predator gives the heroine the xeno gear and they run off together is tragically burned into my brain.

Don't forget The Sleigh Ride of Friendship.
That is single handily the greatest thing that has ever been said for this movie ever.

Posted by 426Buddy
 - Nov 17, 2016, 04:14:40 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 17, 2016, 04:08:55 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Nov 17, 2016, 03:54:12 PMIf i remember correctly, its the same method they used on the oxburster, just a static puppet on the end of a stick.

You mean the exact method they used in the very first film?

You mean a film made 37 years ago when that technique was new but still flawed? I also believe they used or immediately switched to a rod puppet that was articulated. Multiple effects and editing were used to achieve a believable event. Its also insane that it was done better almost 40 years ago.

Oxburster and that avp burster in that clip appear to be static and not alive looking at all. It looks exactly like what it is.
Posted by HuDaFuK
 - Nov 17, 2016, 04:08:55 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Nov 17, 2016, 03:54:12 PMIf i remember correctly, its the same method they used on the oxburster, just a static puppet on the end of a stick.

You mean the exact method they used in the very first film?
Posted by 426Buddy
 - Nov 17, 2016, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 17, 2016, 03:44:04 PM
Some of the designs were naff, but I didn't think the technical side of the effects work was bad at all. Especially given that they did it all on a tight budget.

The Chestburster looked fine. The fact the sequence was virtually bloodless was a joke, but the actual puppet looked pretty good. Saying it's "the worst on screen aside from maybe the oxburster" is just daft, because at the very least it looked leagues better than the tooth penis ones in Resurrection.

I thought they used the same chestburster model in both films?

If i remember correctly, its the same method they used on the oxburster, just a static puppet on the end of a stick.

not a good qaulity clip, but it showcases the bad facehugger mask effect and the quickshot of the chestburster looking like a toy.


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