[Exclusive] The Predator Is Coming To Calgary! Predator 5/Skulls Slated To Begin

[TomT]

CUZ GIrlz weakaR than ManZ Allwayz!!  

Depends, if you mean biologically and not comparison of two specific individuals, they are, that's just a scientific fact.

But seriously I do find it an odd direction as I feel the Predator fanbase has a good share of misogynistic macho he-man woman haters.
But maybe they're trying to appeal to an audience that's big enough to actually make the film a success.

As big as... Ghostbusters and Charlie Angels reboots had? Woke twitter, but literally nobody else, including most women?
People just want a good story and characters that make sense, no matter of gender. if it's like Mulan 2020, both terrible film and propaganda piece, then it'll bomb hard obviously. If it's actually good movie and not propaganda piece, then it could be a success, if it's not too expensive. I have no faith in the second outcome because of today's Hollywood and because first plot details smell like Mulan 2020 so far.

[Mr.Turok]

I don't know why people are bitching about a native american warrior woman when this shit happened in real life:

Running Eagle (Pi'tamaka) was a Native American woman and war chief of the Blackfoot Tribe known for her success in battle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_Eagle
https://www.badassoftheweek.com/runningeagle
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/02/24/notable-important-native-american-warrior-women-of-the-19th-century/
https://www.nps.gov/people/pi-tamaka-running-eagle.htm

Additionally, its been explained that the lead isn't 15, she is 19. Again, for the people getting mad that a woman gets the leading role, get mad, stay mad, and die mad.

If someone is worried about a mary sue type of writing, than that's a more stronger grounds for discussion. But also look at the director Dan Trachtenberg, he did good on creating tension and character development. I think he has better chance at making this succeed.

[Bug hunt wilson]

Oh you get butthurt because I state my opions on this let me get a little sucker to calm you down before you throw a temper tantrum

[TomT]

If someone is worried about a mary sue type of writing, than that's a more stronger grounds for discussion.

That's the actual concern, not because the protagonist is woman of course. Almost every single female protagonist in big budget movies for the last 5-7 years, especially by Disney, has mary sue type of writing, at times it crosses the line between just bad lazy writing and propaganda piece.

[Huggs]

I don't know why people are bitching about a native american warrior woman when this shit happened in real life:

Running Eagle (Pi'tamaka) was a Native American woman and war chief of the Blackfeet Tribe known for her success in battle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_Eagle
https://www.badassoftheweek.com/runningeagle
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/02/24/notable-important-native-american-warrior-women-of-the-19th-century/
https://www.nps.gov/people/pi-tamaka-running-eagle.htm

Additionally, its been explained that the lead isn't 15, she is 19. Again, for the people getting mad that a woman gets the leading role, get mad, stay mad, and die mad.

If someone is worried about a mary sue type of writing, than that's a more stronger grounds for discussion. But also look at the director Dan Trachtenberg, he did good on creating tension and character development. I think he has better chance at making this succeed.

Isn't that supposed to be "Blackfoot" and not "Blackfeet"?

[Mr.Turok]

I don't know why people are bitching about a native american warrior woman when this shit happened in real life:

Running Eagle (Pi'tamaka) was a Native American woman and war chief of the Blackfeet Tribe known for her success in battle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_Eagle
https://www.badassoftheweek.com/runningeagle
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/02/24/notable-important-native-american-warrior-women-of-the-19th-century/
https://www.nps.gov/people/pi-tamaka-running-eagle.htm

Additionally, its been explained that the lead isn't 15, she is 19. Again, for the people getting mad that a woman gets the leading role, get mad, stay mad, and die mad.

If someone is worried about a mary sue type of writing, than that's a more stronger grounds for discussion. But also look at the director Dan Trachtenberg, he did good on creating tension and character development. I think he has better chance at making this succeed.

Isn't that supposed to be "Blackfoot" and not "Blackfeet"?

Yeah, I copy and pasted the sentence from Wikipedia, didn't even think I had to check on the spelling for that. I fixed it though.

To be honest I didn't play it. But the game is a different property/franchise and first Predator pretty much set how strong Predator is, that's why this is the point of concern.

How is a robot T-Rex not stronger than a Predator? The thing is made out of metal? It just proves she is that badass.

Secondly, I also think you missed the interesting point the first film made. You can't fight the Predator 1v1, its way too powerful unless you tear it down hard enough that you force it to go 1v1 like Harrigan vs City Hunter in P2. We seen that trained special forces can't deal with it like they would with terrorists, it has much more advanced tech, speed, strength, and agility. Dutch was forced to use old fashion spears, traps, bow and arrows as weapons in addition to creative/critical thinking to fight Jungle Hunter. Hell, even with a dash of luck thrown in seeing how he was lucky that the counter weight was right on top of Jungle Hunter. How different is the tactics and weapons Dutch used much different that would Kee use? I don't see the concern here.

[KiramidHead]

I always thought the Comanche were a Southwestern tribe? Not sure how they'll pass off the Calgary area as that but I guess everything has to film in Canada now for budget reasons.

[Bug hunt wilson]

Wasn't the new judge dread film only had a 30 millon Dollar budget and look how good that film looks if they have creative people they can make money go a long way

[BigDaddyJohn]

I don't know why people are bitching about a native american warrior woman when this shit happened in real life:

Running Eagle (Pi'tamaka) was a Native American woman and war chief of the Blackfeet Tribe known for her success in battle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_Eagle
https://www.badassoftheweek.com/runningeagle
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/02/24/notable-important-native-american-warrior-women-of-the-19th-century/
https://www.nps.gov/people/pi-tamaka-running-eagle.htm

Additionally, its been explained that the lead isn't 15, she is 19. Again, for the people getting mad that a woman gets the leading role, get mad, stay mad, and die mad.

If someone is worried about a mary sue type of writing, than that's a more stronger grounds for discussion. But also look at the director Dan Trachtenberg, he did good on creating tension and character development. I think he has better chance at making this succeed.

Isn't that supposed to be "Blackfoot" and not "Blackfeet"?

Yeah, I copy and pasted the sentence from Wikipedia, didn't even think I had to check on the spelling for that. I fixed it though.

To be honest I didn't play it. But the game is a different property/franchise and first Predator pretty much set how strong Predator is, that's why this is the point of concern.

How is a robot T-Rex not stronger than a Predator? The thing is made out of metal? It just proves she is that badass.

Secondly, I also think you missed the interesting point the first film made. You can't fight the Predator 1v1, its way too powerful unless you tear it down hard enough that you force it to go 1v1 like Harrigan vs City Hunter in P2. We seen that trained special forces can't deal with it like they would with terrorists, it has much more advanced tech, speed, strength, and agility. Dutch was forced to use old fashion spears, traps, bow and arrows as weapons in addition to creative/critical thinking to fight Jungle Hunter. Hell, even with a dash of luck thrown in seeing how he was lucky that the counter weight was right on top of Jungle Hunter. How different is the tactics and weapons Dutch used much different that would Kee use? I don't see the concern here.

What was really important in the end was the journey Dutch had to go through to survive. The journey of someone who has to go back to his primitive nature to win. That's the whole symbolic meaning of the first movie.

That brings us the following question : what will be the symbolic meaning for this movie ? More of the same ? Possible. But done how ? Hard to do the exact same thing so many years later with this very different setting. I'm very curious to know more about this movie.

[TomT]

Secondly, I also think you missed the interesting point the first film made. You can't fight the Predator 1v1, its way too powerful unless you tear it down hard enough that you force it to go 1v1 like Harrigan vs City Hunter in P2. We seen that trained special forces can't deal with it like they would with terrorists, it has much more advanced tech, speed, strength, and agility. Dutch was forced to use old fashion spears, traps, bow and arrows as weapons in addition to creative/critical thinking to fight Jungle Hunter. Hell, even with a dash of luck thrown in seeing how he was lucky that the counter weight was right on top of Jungle Hunter. How different is the tactics and weapons Dutch used much different that would Kee use? I don't see the concern here.

You are making a good point, I think it's more of a visual concern. Like if Kee was an experienced mature warrior, it would look fine, but it could look very silly if a teenager will win a fight with Predator, even with all those traps/being smart ass (but let's see how old the character will be).

How is a robot T-Rex not stronger than a Predator? The thing is made out of metal? It just proves she is that badass.

I don't think robot T-Rex, without playing the game, is flexible, can hide in bushes and become invisible, it makes Predator more dangerous, I think.

[Huggs]

As far as fighting ability, a primitive battle is indeed a non-issue. The hardest thing Dutch did was hoist that tree trunk up in the air. Which, arguably was only doable by someone of his particular size and strength. That aside, shooting arrows and making spears and traps and such should prove little issue to people of normal size and strength.

The female thing doesn't bother me. The age thing does though. This is the second film in a row with kids going up against predators, and that frankly just doesn't appeal to me. I personally would've rather seen the movie lean towards a mexican border war setting in modern times.

[Hunter-Killer]

@Huggs

Bahahahaha canadian predators!

"Have to take your skulls, sorry eh"

[Huggs]

@Huggs

Bahahahaha canadian predators!

"Have to take your skulls, sorry eh"

Trophy hunting is what they're all aboot.

Alas, they're still no match for Kyle's mom.

[Hunter-Killer]

He has a moose skull In the center of his trophy wall.
Also, my name is Kyle, please don't talk about my mom that way

[Mr.Turok]

What was really important in the end was the journey Dutch had to go through to survive. The journey of someone who has to go back to his primitive nature to win. That's the whole symbolic meaning of the first movie.

That brings us the following question : what will be the symbolic meaning for this movie ? More of the same ? Possible. But done how ? Hard to do the exact same thing so many years later with this very different setting. I'm very curious to know more about this movie.

I don't know if you saw the podcast episode covering the new movie but the fellas brought up a good point that it can easily touch on the Comache spirituality and culture to bring more to the table. Like perhaps resorting to old tales or methods to find a way to take down the Predator. Something of that nature can be touched upon to use for symbolism. Predators always had a mythical aura to them after all, as tales passed down to people like how Anna describes them to come from time to time during the hottest summers of Guatemala to hunt humans, and how the village elders describe them as "The demons that make trophies of men", as the Preds are correctly described. Like there was this one tale I believe Voodoo brought up about large reptilians monster people who were eating the local villagers and one of the native warriors tricked them into a cave and sealed the entrance with a huge bolder and it starved to death. I don't know if the story is correct but the idea of using old wisdom and spirituality can be touched upon here I believe.

You are making a good point, I think it's more of a visual concern. Like if Kee was an experienced mature warrior, it would look fine, but it could look very silly if a teenager will win a fight with Predator, even with all those traps/being smart ass (but let's see how old the character will be).

I think people tend to look at this through modern eyes and not like how people used to live during the time.

People forget that Marquis de Lafayette, who fought under George Washington and commanded his own men and became a prominent figure of both the American and French Revolution, was 19 years old. Thats a hell of alot more than the average millennial or zoomer had done so far in their life today. James Monroe was 18 years old when he was facing British firing squads during the American Revolution as well. Hell, Andrew Jackson was 9 years old being a courier for his fellow countrymen, looking at people getting f**ked up by canon ball fire and people slamming bayonets into one another. Kid was captured by British troops and got slashed on the face with a sword when he refused to polish an officer's boot. We can even look further in the American Civil War, when the mode for the age of soldiers being 19 and the average 25 years old. Now imagine native american warriors who had to fight to defend their homes from colonialism of the ever expanding US and suddenly you realize that its not really that far of reality.

People were just made of different stuff back then.

I don't think robot T-Rex, without playing the game, is flexible, can hide in bushes and become invisible, it makes Predator more dangerous, I think.

But its a robotic T.rex, like she kills the damm thing that has a metallic hide and metal teeth with a bow and arrow where people failed to do with guns against a normal T.rex in Jurassic Park, namely the Lost World.