Posted by Corporal Hicks
- May 20, 2022, 07:55:13 AMI still love Covenant. I have the same kind of reaction to Alien 3 where I love the film, but there's still a lot I'd change about it - especially the last third. But they both have my favourite scores from the series too.
Posted by Kradan
- May 20, 2022, 06:24:13 AMFour, three, zero
Posted by KiramidHead
- May 20, 2022, 12:00:38 AMWhat year is it?
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
- May 19, 2022, 11:40:38 PMQuote from: Kradan on May 19, 2022, 08:35:36 PMWish I was there for Twin Peaks
"Is it future or is it past?"
Posted by Kradan
- May 19, 2022, 08:35:36 PMWish I was there for Twin Peaks
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
- May 19, 2022, 08:26:20 PMAlien: Covenant's premiere and Twin Peaks: The Return in the span of a few days. It was a lovely weekend in 2017.
Posted by Kradan
- May 19, 2022, 05:55:38 PMDang. Feels like a lifetime ago
Posted by Evanus
- May 19, 2022, 05:44:08 PM5 years old now.
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
- Mar 20, 2022, 11:29:23 PMPosted by The Eighth Passenger
- Dec 09, 2021, 03:44:35 PM
Posted by Immortan Jonesy
- Dec 04, 2021, 12:32:47 AMCool and funny 
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
- Dec 03, 2021, 12:55:12 AMPosted by Sabres21768
- Aug 14, 2021, 08:13:51 PMNot sure if this has been posted before. If so, I apologize.
It's got some fantastic vfx vids in it.
Including an incredible scene of what happens to the Engineers after David drops the mutagen on them.
http://www.animationboss.net/alien-covenant-visual-effects/
It's got some fantastic vfx vids in it.
Including an incredible scene of what happens to the Engineers after David drops the mutagen on them.
http://www.animationboss.net/alien-covenant-visual-effects/
Posted by Immortan Jonesy
- Jun 13, 2021, 03:35:38 AMQuote from: TC on Jun 05, 2021, 05:34:18 PMQuote from: Trash Queen on Jun 05, 2021, 04:34:16 PM
I'm not arguing it's not an issue but I do find it more palatable when I stop viewing it as a realistic science fiction like the original film, and more as a gothic romantic horror story that uses space as the backdrop.
This is my point when I said I enjoyed Raised by Wolves so much.
If Scott had freed himself of obligations to the Alien story-world (obligations such as a serious attempt at realism), by rewriting Prometheus/Covenant so they had nothing to do with Alien, then he could have put that unique aesthetic that we saw in Raised by Wolves into Prometheus/Covenant instead.
This disconnected version of Prometheus/Covenant would have naturally created its own storytelling style (what Trash Queen describes in genre terms as "gothic romantic horror") and if that entailed a bit of the bizarre and irrational, then so be it. It would have been a feature, not a bug.
TC
I wonder how that would have been. 🤔
I guess basically Prometheus but without: Weyland, Space Jockeys aesthetics in the Enguineers and xeno-like traits in the creatures.
Posted by Voodoo Magic
- Jun 05, 2021, 05:45:52 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 05, 2021, 04:24:18 PMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 05, 2021, 02:13:03 PM
Yep, work its way into the suit, eat through a filter perhaps! Simple logic fixes like this across the film could have helped temper all the check-your-brain-at-the-door criticism it received... which would be fine if it was just a light popcorn film, but Covenant treats itself so much more seriously.
Yeah I think treating itself as if it was some deeply philosophical work of the highest caliber when it's full of goofy dumbness is the heart of the problem for me.
If the movie was at least more entertaining and less deja-vu a 1000 times elsewhere, it would have been slighlty less of a problem. But even that it does not.
Yeah, that's definitely the heart of it to me too.
Quote from: The Necronoir on Jun 05, 2021, 03:56:57 PMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 05, 2021, 02:13:03 PM
Yep, work its way into the suit, eat through a filter perhaps! Simple logic fixes like this across the film could have helped temper all the check-your-brain-at-the-door criticism it received... which would be fine if it was just a light popcorn film, but Covenant treats itself so much more seriously.
Carlos Huante actually goes over his own take on this in one of his YouTube videos exploring his work on Prometheus and Covenant. His idea was that the spores were tiny-organisms, resembling gnats, that would cover the explorers' visors like a fine powder. When they brush their hands across the visor to clear their vision they unwittingly crush them, releasing their acid blood, which slowly eats through the helmet and allows other spores to get in and infect them.
That sounds like an infinitely preferable idea to me.
Preferable indeed. I actually adore that idea! 👏
