Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Dec 27, 2015, 09:13:36 PM
To me it would make sense if the Predators were "created" by the Engineers as well, just like us humans. I don't like the concept in the Alien universe, but as a crossover it kind of makes sense. Maybe the Predators were "created" way earlier by the Engineers and were somewhat and somehow forgotten about? Maybe a nixed project? Maybe the Predators the Engineers originally "created" were less impressive? Maybe the accelerant/black goo was less developed and didn't have the same effect and abilities as it has now, or maybe it was even more unpredictable?
I do not like the concept of the Predators being created by the Engineers and I really don't want to see it encouraged in the current "canon". The universe is a pretty big place, and I don't think even the Engineers have covered every area of it. While they have created many life forms, I don't like the idea of them creating EVERY life form and that includes the Predators. It just further places the Engineers on a pedestal that they're the Intergalactic Overlords and Masters of the Universe which... if you ask me, devalues the Alien and Predators.
As said, the universe is a pretty big place and there are infinite possibilities. Xenomorphine even pointed out that according to numerous astro-biologist, that a hominid shape would be the result of years of advanced evolution for a space faring race. And while the anatomy of the Predators is indeed hominid, there are other aspects which are extremely alien-- even when considering the idea of Engineers and our own similarities to them. For one, the blood is a luminescent green, but there is more to it.. in the old EU, it was shown that their blood and flesh has unique rejuvenation properties, and in the current and new EU, their blood apparently does grant healing properties-- which human biologist even considered on somehow using to benefit mankind in giving them minor healing factors. That's something very alien, even by well... alien standards.
I have to ask, why can't live evolve on it's own in this rebooted universe? Do the Engineers HAVE to create all life? No. That would be a very boring thing, suggesting that the Alien-Predator universe wouldn't be at all around without the Engineers. Lame.
I am all for the idea of the Predators being their own race, with no direct relation to the Engineers. If they are going to have a relationship, it should be one based on minor interactions between them in brief conflicts. But for Engineers to create the Predators? Sorry, but I just... cannot get behind that idea. For me that would ruin the character, and I already don't like where the new EU is going.
Do we really need an origin story for the Predators? No, we don't. We've already got one for the Alien and already that's divided fans, despite twenty years of speculation based on Scott's hints in previous interviews prior to Prometheus.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 27, 2015, 09:36:38 PM
I think you have to consider that the Predator was initially created to be an alien hunter that is going to hunt Schwarzenegger's team in the jungle and they needed a guy to wear the suit. That's it. No further thought was put into it regarding how it fits into a grand Alien universe. You're reading far too much into it. We all are. This interconnectivity with the Aliens universe is literary afterthought, no more.
I actually agree with this because, while I am an Alien vs Predator fan.. the whole idea was just an after thought and no one really questioned it. For twenty years after a successful comic run, no one questioned it and we accepted it as it was. It was simple, and it was good. And go ahead and rally a lynch mob when I say this, but it was better that way. But now, because of the whole reboot which happened, now questions which no one asked are being answered. I mean the two franchises were once two separate universes until the original (and true but now forsaken) AVP comic but wasn't later solidified until Predator 2 as an in-joke by Stan Winston, and a nod to the comics.. and then came the movies which... while I liked and still champion, weren't well received. Then the franchises were separated again..
And now they're attempted to being joined again because of the shared universe craze which Hollywood is doing. Prometheus is fine as a strictly Alien only continuity, but throw Predator in? That's like... trying to have beer at a wine tasting party. It doesn't fit in the atmosphere. Because of Prometheus, we're getting answers to question no one asked.. in regards to the Predator character and series, I find this quite harmful.
We don't need an origin story for the Predator.