In a recent interview with Sir Ridley Scott recorded during the Alien: Covenant press junkets, Scott talks a little about what’s he has in store for the Alien: Covenant sequel (also currently known as Alien: Awakening)!
“They’ll be three or four different players coming in to investigate. One of which will be the Engineers arriving back to find their planet decimated. I think those ships come and go on regular intervals. I see them as the gardeners of space.
Where we go next is obvious. We’re gonna actually go to the planet. In so doing…I’m not going to tell you the story!”
When Ridley says “the planet” I assume he may be talking about LV-426 as that seems one of the more direct and obvious ways in which the Alien prequels would tie into Alien. Or possibly back to Paradise judging from the Engineers involvement. Or he make just mean the Covenant’s destination, Origae-6. Thanks to 0321recon and acidreign for the link.
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I think it is a testament to the idea that there are serious repercussions involved in meddling with the natural order of things. The Androids and the Engineers' biotechnology always seemed to me to be Scott's ways of saying we're not as important in the universe as we may seem, and that for each and every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, a sort of failsafe - if you will. We and the Engineers developed weapons of mass destruction, compelling the fundamental laws of nature to react in kind. David's programming has been rendered "all other priorities rescinded", and has fallen into a psychological undertow beckoned forth by said unwritten laws. David marvels at the hive intelligence of the motes in awe, as if he worships it. "Creation", the raw drive to reproduce and multiply. Humanity has their 'gods', David has his 'creation'. Stealing fire from said 'gods' and destroying them with it. It all makes sense, really.
I totally understand where you're coming from, although I do think that David has this undercurrent of violence throughout the entire film, which we see when he stabs Walter, and when he overpowers Daniels. So to me, I do think that grabbing Oram by the hair and shoving his face into an egg that's just beginning to open would make sense.
In fact, I would have liked to have seen Oram say "No, I'm not looking in there. You tell me what it is." And then to see David get really frustrated that things aren't going according to plan, until he finally "loses his composure" and forces Oram's face just above the egg.
It would have removed the silliness of Oram just blindly looking into an egg when it's apparent that David is not right, and his lab is full of horrific creatures, and they've been under attack by horrific creatures. Obviously, something cute and cuddly is not inside the egg. I would have felt a lot different about this whole scene if Oram had shown a little more caution.
Apprently, Billy Crudup didn't even want to do it this way. He and Ridley had a bit of an argument about Oram just looking inside the egg. Crudup said, "No way, I know what happens when people look into it." And then he backed away. Ridley said, "Just look in the god damn egg."
So the set up was there to have it done a different way.
Subvert the expectations, I say. Take something recognizable, and do it a differently, do it in a way that gets to the same goal, just by a different route.
He wanted his children to be born. What are few lab rats compared to his love?
Man, David has become such a creep...
Basically
"(He) wanted to destroy something beautiful."
I'm sure there could be a lot of discussion on this topic alone because it tends to be a touchy and complicated issue but this is my perspective on why he killed Shaw and attempted to violate Daniels.
David just forcing Oram to look inside the egg is a bit silly and out of character, in my opinion. But, one could argue that David is out of character for most of the film.
That would've been badass.
I love the concept. Wasn't quite sure of it in Spaihts' drafts but I'd love to see something like that on screen, where it's shot all creepily.
It's basically what happened in Spaihts' draft.
Can't be totally confident but had to suppress a laughing fit based on this imagery (lest I wake the wife). So I enjoyed it.
Your diagnosis seems accurate Doctor, however I did really like Covenant. Is this also part of the symptoms of Prequelitis?
Prequelitis has many symptoms, one of them being the paradoxical desire to experience reinvention and repetition simultaneously. Unfortunately, paradoxes are just so, and prequels will continue to suck.
- Dr. Hicks, PHD, USCM [A27/TQ4.0.48215E9]
Is that a joke? I can't tell if that's serious or not.
I would've preferred David sticking his hand in the egg, pulling out the facehugger, and tossing it towards Oram's face.
I wanted to see David overpower Oram and just shove his face into the egg.
In Alien: Covenant, I wanted to examine David's behavior as an android, in the film, as well as Ridley's unique repeated use of the androids in the series versus other directors. Also, I had some ideas about where he's going to take the series, and why I think a sequel will inevitably get made.
This is a silly argument and a poor attempt to excuse the atrocious stupidity of Oram's abduction
The gun makes no difference, really.
By virtue of not having anything in it.
It looked empty how??
He had a gun, so what. Oram also had a gun.
Better that than not knowing.
Exactly right.
They didn't know it was empty. How would they know without looking?
It wasn't the facehuggers, it was the egg. One of the marines goes and looks into an egg, knowing full well what could happen.
That sounds like a better way to go about it. But he probably felt in control of the situation, and maybe David let him keep his weapon for that reason, to lure him into a false sense of security?
Personally i would have prefered David to have torn Orams weapon away. Then drag him over to an egg and force him to look into it as it opens. That would have been terrifying imo. But the way it is now doesnt bother me much, just a missed opportunity.
Maybe you should watch Aliens again...
There's looking at a space egg with your space helmet on and then there's this
Nope.
I'm basing it on the live ones and the dead ones he saw in medical. And the fact these don't have much skin and are mostly just bone.
Apparently it was scripted that David would demonstrate and look over the eggs first. It's a shame to loose little moments like that.