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Ridley Scott Talks Return of Engineers for Alien: Covenant Sequel

In a recent interview with Sir Ridley Scott recorded during the Alien: Covenant press junkets, Scott talks a little about what’s he has in store for the Alien: Covenant sequel (also currently known as Alien: Awakening)!

“They’ll be three or four different players coming in to investigate. One of which will be the Engineers arriving back to find their planet decimated. I think those ships come and go on regular intervals. I see them as the gardeners of space.

Where we go next is obvious. We’re gonna actually go to the planet. In so doing…I’m not going to tell you the story!

When Ridley says “the planet” I assume he may be talking about LV-426 as that seems one of the more direct and obvious ways in which the Alien prequels would tie into Alien. Or possibly back to Paradise judging from the Engineers involvement. Or he make just mean the Covenant’s destination, Origae-6. Thanks to 0321recon and acidreign for the link.

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  1. LCpl. D. Grant
    One thing I don't get, is why would David try to violate Daniels? He even says something along the lines of ''Now I see why Walter thought so much of you.'' Wait, he's admiring Daniels? Why? I thought he hated humans.. Except for Shaw, I guess.

    I think it is a testament to the idea that there are serious repercussions involved in meddling with the natural order of things. The Androids and the Engineers' biotechnology always seemed to me to be Scott's ways of saying we're not as important in the universe as we may seem, and that for each and every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, a sort of failsafe - if you will. We and the Engineers developed weapons of mass destruction, compelling the fundamental laws of nature to react in kind. David's programming has been rendered "all other priorities rescinded", and has fallen into a psychological undertow beckoned forth by said unwritten laws. David marvels at the hive intelligence of the motes in awe, as if he worships it. "Creation", the raw drive to reproduce and multiply. Humanity has their 'gods', David has his 'creation'. Stealing fire from said 'gods' and destroying them with it. It all makes sense, really.
  2. TWJones
    I don't really think it fits David's character, though. I like the way it is in the film. It's similar to the way he infected Holloway. He kills them, but not directly like a human would do. It's almost like he's trying to justify what he does to them, because in his view what he's doing to them isn't wrong at all.   
    David just forcing Oram to look inside the egg is a bit silly and out of character, in my opinion. But, one could argue that David is out of character for most of the film.  :P

    I totally understand where you're coming from, although I do think that David has this undercurrent of violence throughout the entire film, which we see when he stabs Walter, and when he overpowers Daniels. So to me, I do think that grabbing Oram by the hair and shoving his face into an egg that's just beginning to open would make sense.

    In fact, I would have liked to have seen Oram say "No, I'm not looking in there. You tell me what it is." And then to see David get really frustrated that things aren't going according to plan, until he finally "loses his composure" and forces Oram's face just above the egg.

    It would have removed the silliness of Oram just blindly looking into an egg when it's apparent that David is not right, and his lab is full of horrific creatures, and they've been under attack by horrific creatures. Obviously, something cute and cuddly is not inside the egg. I would have felt a lot different about this whole scene if Oram had shown a little more caution.

    Apprently, Billy Crudup didn't even want to do it this way. He and Ridley had a bit of an argument about Oram just looking inside the egg. Crudup said, "No way, I know what happens when people look into it." And then he backed away. Ridley said, "Just look in the god damn egg."

    So the set up was there to have it done a different way.

    Subvert the expectations, I say. Take something recognizable, and do it a differently, do it in a way that gets to the same goal, just by a different route.
  3. rustyredraccoon
    One thing I don't get, is why would David try to violate Daniels? He even says something along the lines of ''Now I see why Walter thought so much of you.'' Wait, he's admiring Daniels? Why? I thought he hated humans.. Except for Shaw, I guess.
    As far as I am concerned, that is a pretty complicated question. In short, rape tends to be a power thing, and showing that you are more powerful over somebody with traits you admire is more of a "win" than violating somebody who is spiteful or weak.

    Basically

    "(He) wanted to destroy something beautiful."

    I'm sure there could be a lot of discussion on this topic alone because it tends to be a touchy and complicated issue but this is my perspective on why he killed Shaw and attempted to violate Daniels.
  4. Evanus
    One thing I don't get, is why would David try to violate Daniels? He even says something along the lines of ''Now I see why Walter thought so much of you.'' Wait, he's admiring Daniels? Why? I thought he hated humans.. Except for Shaw, I guess.
  5. rustyredraccoon
    David holding Oram down and shoving his face into the egg would have been PERFECT in the context of the movie. I feel like Scott already tried to show (arguably successfully) David's true contempt for humans by how he acted when nobody else was around (attempting to violate Daniels, shoving the patch onto Lope's face, throwing stones at Oran's body). Him shoving Oram's face into the egg would have worked brilliantly.
  6. Evanus
    I don't really think it fits David's character, though. I like the way it is in the film. It's similar to the way he infected Holloway. He kills them, but not directly like a human would do. It's almost like he's trying to justify what he does to them, because in his view what he's doing to them isn't wrong at all.   
    David just forcing Oram to look inside the egg is a bit silly and out of character, in my opinion. But, one could argue that David is out of character for most of the film.  :P
  7. Corporal Hicks

    I would've preferred David sticking his hand in the egg, pulling out the facehugger, and tossing it towards Oram's face.

    Is that a joke? I can't tell if that's serious or not.

    It's basically what happened in Spaihts' draft.

    I love the concept. Wasn't quite sure of it in Spaihts' drafts but I'd love to see something like that on screen, where it's shot all creepily.
  8. TWJones
    This is a silly argument and a poor attempt to excuse the atrocious stupidity of Oram's abduction

    I wanted to see David overpower Oram and just shove his face into the egg.

    I would've preferred David sticking his hand in the egg, pulling out the facehugger, and tossing it towards Oram's face.

    Prequelitis has many symptoms, one of them being the paradoxical desire to experience reinvention and repetition simultaneously. Unfortunately, paradoxes are just so, and prequels will continue to suck.

    - Dr. Hicks, PHD, USCM [A27/TQ4.0.48215E9]

    Your diagnosis seems accurate Doctor, however I did really like Covenant. Is this also part of the symptoms of Prequelitis?
  9. ChrisPachi
    This is a silly argument and a poor attempt to excuse the atrocious stupidity of Oram's abduction

    I wanted to see David overpower Oram and just shove his face into the egg.

    I would've preferred David sticking his hand in the egg, pulling out the facehugger, and tossing it towards Oram's face.

    Prequelitis has many symptoms, one of them being the paradoxical desire to experience reinvention and repetition simultaneously. Unfortunately, paradoxes are just so, and prequels will continue to suck.

    - Dr. Hicks, PHD, USCM [A27/TQ4.0.48215E9]
  10. NickisSmart
    This page in the thread inspired me to do a new video:



    In Alien: Covenant, I wanted to examine David's behavior as an android, in the film, as well as Ridley's unique repeated use of the androids in the series versus other directors. Also, I had some ideas about where he's going to take the series, and why I think a sequel will inevitably get made.
  11. newagescamartist
    Oram felt responsible for the failure of the Covenant. Using this built up frustration he kills the neomorph, confronts David, and follows him for answers. If he made one mistake it was following David by himself, but David wasn't going to let those eggs sit there with viable hosts running around on his planet for the first time in 10 years. He would have kidnapped someone to see what it would become, I can assure you. Oram was just easy pickings because he was so emotional and naive. Does it make him stupid? I would say the adrenaline and emotions clouded his judgement. It's amazing what duress can do to the mind. That's why I don't fault characters making bad decisions mid action sequence or after seeing someone brutally murdered. When they are not under duress and making these types of decisions, then yes, I'd call it stupid.
  12. SM
    Hicks knew what to expect.  Oram didn't, so had a torch pointed at it rather than a gun.

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    It looked empty how??

    By virtue of not having anything in it.
  13. Scorpio
    Well you're assuming that "He knows what a dead facehugger looks like and that it poses no threat." based on "It was a dead and decomposed hugger in a pile of dead and decomposed huggers."

    Maybe you should watch Aliens again...

    Well you're assuming that "He knows what a dead facehugger looks like and that it poses no threat." based on "It was a dead and decomposed hugger in a pile of dead and decomposed huggers."

    Nope.

    I'm basing it on the live ones and the dead ones he saw in medical.  And the fact these don't have much skin and are mostly just bone.

    It wasn't the facehuggers, it was the egg.  One of the marines goes and looks into an egg, knowing full well what could happen.
  14. NickisSmart
    I think Oram felt confident with his weapon in hand, especially after having killed the Neomorph already. Curiosity killed the Crudup.

    Personally i would have prefered David to have torn Orams weapon away. Then drag him over to an egg and force him to look into it as it opens. That would have been terrifying imo. But the way it is now doesnt bother me much, just a missed opportunity.

    That sounds like a better way to go about it. But he probably felt in control of the situation, and maybe David let him keep his weapon for that reason, to lure him into a false sense of security?
  15. juxtapose
    . .or david grabs the gun and throws oram down the stairs. .he flies down like a rag doll and breaks a leg . .bone sticking out and blood bubbling and guzzling from the wound. . A face hugger pops out of a near by egg and oram tries too flee. .he crawls backwards and screams. .a scream that is drowned out as the facehugger inbeds itself om his face. .he claws at it desperately but soon slips into a deep dark sleep. .
  16. Corporal Hicks
    Yeah, I was have really liked that too. There was scene in Spaihts' pre-Prometheus where David teased a facehugger out and onto Shaw. It could have been really cheesy but I think a scene like that, or like Buddy described, would be really awesome.
  17. 426Buddy
    I think Oram felt confident with his weapon in hand, especially after having killed the Neomorph already. Curiosity killed the Crudup.

    Personally i would have prefered David to have torn Orams weapon away. Then drag him over to an egg and force him to look into it as it opens. That would have been terrifying imo. But the way it is now doesnt bother me much, just a missed opportunity.
  18. Omegamorph
     :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Oram has seen the thing that killed his crew interact pacifically with David, David said 'it trusted me', David went on to show all of his experiments including flayed corpses and deformed people, admitted to using the white asshole faces as basis for his own creations and shows them to Oram. Totally safe!

    There's looking at a space egg with your space helmet on and then there's this
  19. Corporal Hicks
    I'm sure he still has a hard time evaluating quality (or maybe he doesn't really care), but given the improvements from Prometheus to Covenant I can't help but feel that Awakening will be monstrous, if it is made.

    Define quality.
    Just take Oram's death. I know he can't break the 4th wall like Deadpool, but the way it was handled was just bad writing. There was no reason for Oram to trust David enough to look into that egg.

    Apparently it was scripted that David would demonstrate and look over the eggs first. It's a shame to loose little moments like that.
  20. Scorpio
    Well you're assuming that "He knows what a dead facehugger looks like and that it poses no threat." based on "It was a dead and decomposed hugger in a pile of dead and decomposed huggers."
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