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“I think AI is Becoming Much More Dangerous” – Ridley Scott On Future Alien Films

In a new article from Entertainment Weekly, Sir Ridley Scott has made some new comments about what direction he sees future Alien films going in. As well as confirming that he is still working on another Alien film, Scott re-affirms some of his recent comments about the shift of focus towards artificial intelligence in the films.

“We are [going to make another], we are,” Scott told EW from the set of All the Money in the World. “I think what we have to do is gradually drift away from the alien stuff.” Say what? Scott’s Alien: Covenant, which came out earlier this year, felt like a return to some legit old-school scares but failed to set the domestic box office ablaze (though, combined with international sales, it ended with north of $240 million in ticket revenue). “People say, ‘You need more alien, you need more face pulling, need more chest bursting,’ so I put a lot of that in Covenant and it fitted nicely. But I think if you go again you need to start finding another solution that’s more interesting. I think AI is becoming much more dangerous and therefore more interesting.”

Since Covenant’s release, Scott has since started to say these things of thing again. Scott most recently commented that he thought “the beast has almost run out and prior to this he also spoke about how he thought the focus would shift more onto artificial intelligence.

While it’s unclear if these particular comments came during principal photography on All The Money In the World or during the recent reshoots, Scott’s latest film is due for release later this month so Scott will soon be making the promotional rounds so we may start to hear a little bit more about what progress has been made on the sequel to Alien: Covenant.

Back in September, 20th Century Fox CEO Stacey Snider also spoke about the future of the Alien series, saying that she “trust[ed] Ridley [Scott] and Emma [Watts] to know the right story when they find it. When universes are as rich as “Alien,” they can stay in a too familiar groove — in which case you’re in trouble — but they can also find a planet or a storyline or a villain that also lives in that universe that can be groundbreaking.”

Thanks to The Eighth Passenger for the tip. Keep a close eye on Alien vs. Predator Galaxy for the latest on Alien: Covenant and Alien: Covenant 2! You can follow us on FacebookTwitter and Instagram to get the latest on your social media walls. You can also join in with fellow Alien fans on our forums!



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  1. The Highlander MacLeod
    @BishopShouldGo: About the Alien franchise, my point was that Ridley Scott wanted to make a film that was not like Star Wars-he says as much in the commentary for the 1979's Alien. At the end of the day, we should be able to agree to disagree.
  2. Highland
    The Queen holding on to Ripley's leg was actually taken from Scotts original too. The Alien was supposed to hold on to her ankle as it got forced out into space.

    There's a hell of a lot of things Cameron took from Alien that were either on screen or story boarded.
  3. Baron Von Marlon
    Well, not for its own sake, but yes, although not every death scene has to be brutal, and not every death scene has to purely visceral. Sometimes the audial aspect can be even more terrifying. For example, Hallett's screams in Covenant are in a way even more terrifying than the thing coming out of his mouth.

    Overal, I like it somewhat realistic and in proportion (horror comedies are an exception).
    District 9 comes to mind. That's a proper display of violence.
    Brawl In CB 99 was brutal but it was done right.
    Even the last Rambo movie. There's a part where enemies are almost shot to pieces, because that's what a heavy calibre machine gun does to a human body.
  4. bb-15
    For body-horror, maybe, depending on how it's handled, A lot of what makes horror work is what's not shown. PG-13 doesn't automatically mean jump scares, there are a bunch of quality PG-13 horror movies that are scary because of the sense of looming dread, tension, and as mentioned, what isn't shown.

    Shit, aside from the rampant profanity and the colonist chestburster scene in 'Aliens', that movie is practically bloodless. A reworking of the dialogue would turn that movie into an easy PG-13 by today's standards. Even Bishop getting torn in half wouldn't trigger an R-rateing, as the MPAA only cares about actual genuine bona-fide red human blood when it comes to gore. You can show aliens or robots being blasted apart and dismembered to your heart's content, and it's not considered "gory".
    All this undoubtedly carefully planned by James Cameron. Imagine if Hicks or Newt got ripped apart by the Alien queen, the movie wouldn't been anywhere close to as popular as it is now. The soccer moms in the audience would've raged and screamed, but by making the victim a robot that can take being ripped in two, he includes as much of the audience as possible while still doing a good job showcasing the queen's power.

    Also, using Logan and Deadpool as indicators that R-rated movies can do well is a pretty bad representative sample given that both of those movies are capeshit diarrhea which nowadays audiences keep craving in higher and higher doses.

    It wouldn't have been as popular because that's a crap idea.
    Because all the heroes and kids have to survive to make it a good movie? Imagine if the Alien queen had ripped Hicks apart, and Ripley and Bishop had to team up to beat her, with Bishop also getting destroyed in the process. You'd still have the kid surviving to please soccer moms, but the Alien queen would've seemed a lot more powerful as opposed to losing a 1v1 vs a powerloader.

    Too many kids post here I think, they want Marvel superhero movies not Alien.  They want movies for kids, not adults.
    Nah, I think most consumers of these movies are actually fully grown adults, for some reason.

    Who the heck wants a sequel to Covenant with the way it ended. So let me guess... the colonists get infected and someone has to save the day, and it leads into LV-426 in Alien? Ridley is so obsessed with that backdoor shit. Screw that. Damon had the right idea. Run tangentially, not right behind.
    The fun thing about the prequels is that there's no telling what's going to happen, whereas with e.g. a Blomkamp movie it would've been superpredictable (something happens, Alien outbreak, Ripley saves the day). Thank God that Ridley Scott in his old age is willing to break stale conventions, now we just need a slightly tighter script.

    98/94 % critic and fan base still say's your ending Aliens ending sucks. Your Alien in Covenant got beat by one mom, twice.
    The xeno in Covenant is probably not fully evolved, it has an extreme and uncontrolled aggression, and in both cases it was defeated by Daniels, Tennessee and "Walter" working together. The Queen (which is supposed to be stronger than a Warrior) was literally defeated by only Ripley in an exosuit. It's still a decent scene, but with the changes I proposed it would've been much less Disney and would've been more pleasing overall to most mature audience members I'd wager.

    * First, I agree with you that it took 3 characters coordinating their attack to defeat the proto-xenomorph in "Covenant".
    Just in terms of Alien style action that worked for me.

    * With the ending of "Aliens" the story's purpose is different. It's not supposed to be a realistic comparison between the power of a xenomorph/the Queen vs. a human/Ripley (+ loader).
    - After all, the Queen while being blown out of the airlock has grabbed on to Ripley and Ripley is holing onto the rung of a ladder with one arm. 
    It's absurd but it still works.
    - The last act of "Aliens" builds Ripley up as a female super action character. Still the best woman action role imo also with good acting by Weaver.

    ;)
  5. The Highlander MacLeod
    Alien was never meant to be on the same level as Star Wars/Star Trek. The Xenomorph is a one-dimensional character from the standpoint it's a killing machine. It does the same thing no matter how many films are made about the creature. Besides, what is the point of making "prequels" that lead up to the 1979 film? Prometheus was great because the filmmakers were willing to think outside the box, thus creating a new spin on the Alien universe. To see an Alien film that didn't have senseless bloodletting would have been most welcome.   
  6. Highland
    Personally I enjoy the imagery, the way they've captured the creature in the scene, the shadows, build up etc. Covenant has some of these, the Neo bent over eating the chick, the Xeno standing up in the hanger.... that's about it.

    I didn't like seeing it in the light or farting around the Covenant. The jump down from the roof bit was too AVP and we never saw the jumping through the tunnel part which was supposed to be in the original Alien too. I'm surprised he left that out after not being able to do it the first time.
  7. tleilaxu
    I don't speak for other Covenant defenders, but yes, stuff being ripped in half always helps.

    It's why I wouldn't mind an gory Aliens flick with Marines and perhaps some Blomkamp robots.
    Personally I prefer Prometheus/Engineers/David type stuff but I certainly would enjoy the hell out of some bloody over-the-top action fest.

    Btw, you like gory entertainment in general?
    Well, not for its own sake, but yes, although not every death scene has to be brutal, and not every death scene has to purely visceral. Sometimes the audial aspect can be even more terrifying. For example, Hallett's screams in Covenant are in a way even more terrifying than the thing coming out of his mouth.
  8. Highland
    The whole point of the film is that .... ... never mind.

    I find it hilariously ironic that you guy's continually refer to members as "The Pulse Rifle Queen lovers" and your idea of a better movie is to have "Stuff ripped in half"

    This forum brings me joy.
    I don't speak for other Covenant defenders, but yes, stuff being ripped in half always helps.

    Well at least your honest!

    Seriously though, Newt getting killed (or even not found again) blows the whole story structure apart.
  9. Gash
    The point of the hanger battle scene is: 'The two "mothers" fight'; Not 'Look at all this blood we throw at you!'

    Bishop isn't being ripped in half because the scene needed someone to "die"; he is being ripped in half specifically so that only Ripley would be left to fight the Queen in order to protect Newt. Him being torn apart has a narrative and thematic purpose. It doesn't just happen for the sake of "gore". That subtle difference is one of the many many reasons why Aliens is far superior to the prequels.
    The reason for the hangar battle scene is to have Ripley defeat the Alien queen while protecting her "daughter". That's something that many audience members can resonate it and it creates emotional attachment. Bishop is ripped apart both to showcase the Queen's terrifying power and to have Ripley be alone. What I'm saying is very simple: the movie would've been better for audiences who prefer more grit as opposed to more Disney, like me, if the scene had been bloodier.

    Also Hicks is in the Med bay asleep.

    So that leaves the Kid getting ripped in half ...or Ripley. So you either like kids getting ripped in half or the main hero getting ripped in half. I don't think you've thought this one through.
    Obviously the script could've just been altered to have Hicks come out with them. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing Newt getting ripped apart either, mainly because the angry reactions that would've produced in soccer moms would've been pleasing to me, but of course from a film success perspective this is not the ideal option.


    I thought Aliens was a salvageable film when Newt was taken by the alien, but then it was ruined moments later when Ripley starts out on her rescue mission.

    At least Alien3 rectified it.
  10. Highland
    The whole point of the film is that .... ... never mind.

    I find it hilariously ironic that you guy's continually refer to members as "The Pulse Rifle Queen lovers" and your idea of a better movie is to have "Stuff ripped in half"

    This forum brings me joy. 
  11. tleilaxu
    The point of the hanger battle scene is: 'The two "mothers" fight'; Not 'Look at all this blood we throw at you!'

    Bishop isn't being ripped in half because the scene needed someone to "die"; he is being ripped in half specifically so that only Ripley would be left to fight the Queen in order to protect Newt. Him being torn apart has a narrative and thematic purpose. It doesn't just happen for the sake of "gore". That subtle difference is one of the many many reasons why Aliens is far superior to the prequels.
    The reason for the hangar battle scene is to have Ripley defeat the Alien queen while protecting her "daughter". That's something that many audience members can resonate it and it creates emotional attachment. Bishop is ripped apart both to showcase the Queen's terrifying power and to have Ripley be alone. What I'm saying is very simple: the movie would've been better for audiences who prefer more grit as opposed to more Disney, like me, if the scene had been bloodier.

    Also Hicks is in the Med bay asleep.

    So that leaves the Kid getting ripped in half ...or Ripley. So you either like kids getting ripped in half or the main hero getting ripped in half. I don't think you've thought this one through.
    Obviously the script could've just been altered to have Hicks come out with them. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing Newt getting ripped apart either, mainly because the angry reactions that would've produced in soccer moms would've been pleasing to me, but of course from a film success perspective this is not the ideal option.
  12. Highland
    Also Hicks is in the Med bay asleep.

    So that leaves the Kid getting ripped in half ...or Ripley. So you either like kids getting ripped in half or the main hero getting ripped in half. I don't think you've thought this one through.
  13. Paranoid Android
    The point of the hanger battle scene is: 'The two "mothers" fight'; Not 'Look at all this blood we throw at you!'

    Bishop isn't being ripped in half because the scene needed someone to "die"; he is being ripped in half specifically so that only Ripley would be left to fight the Queen in order to protect Newt. Him being torn apart has a narrative and thematic purpose. It doesn't just happen for the sake of "gore". That subtle difference is one of the many many reasons why Aliens is far superior to the prequels.
  14. Highland

    The xeno in Covenant is probably not fully evolved, it has an extreme and uncontrolled aggression

    There's no proof of that. Aggression seems to be a general trait of any Alien.

    Quote
    The Queen (which is supposed to be stronger than a Warrior) was literally defeated by only Ripley in an exosuit. It's still a decent scene, but with the changes I proposed it would've been much less Disney and would've been more pleasing overall to most mature audience members I'd wager.

    The Queens purpose is to lay eggs, being a bad ass just seems to be a bonus. Aliens is still a violent film with some scary imagery. People getting ripped in half isn't going to make a movie better, especially when said movie is as close to perfect in it's genre.
  15. Munkeywrench
    For body-horror, maybe, depending on how it's handled, A lot of what makes horror work is what's not shown. PG-13 doesn't automatically mean jump scares, there are a bunch of quality PG-13 horror movies that are scary because of the sense of looming dread, tension, and as mentioned, what isn't shown.

    Shit, aside from the rampant profanity and the colonist chestburster scene in 'Aliens', that movie is practically bloodless. A reworking of the dialogue would turn that movie into an easy PG-13 by today's standards. Even Bishop getting torn in half wouldn't trigger an R-rateing, as the MPAA only cares about actual genuine bona-fide red human blood when it comes to gore. You can show aliens or robots being blasted apart and dismembered to your heart's content, and it's not considered "gory".
    All this undoubtedly carefully planned by James Cameron. Imagine if Hicks or Newt got ripped apart by the Alien queen, the movie wouldn't been anywhere close to as popular as it is now. The soccer moms in the audience would've raged and screamed, but by making the victim a robot that can take being ripped in two, he includes as much of the audience as possible while still doing a good job showcasing the queen's power.

    Also, using Logan and Deadpool as indicators that R-rated movies can do well is a pretty bad representative sample given that both of those movies are capeshit diarrhea which nowadays audiences keep craving in higher and higher doses.

    It wouldn't have been as popular because that's a crap idea.
    Because all the heroes and kids have to survive to make it a good movie? Imagine if the Alien queen had ripped Hicks apart, and Ripley and Bishop had to team up to beat her, with Bishop also getting destroyed in the process. You'd still have the kid surviving to please soccer moms, but the Alien queen would've seemed a lot more powerful as opposed to losing a 1v1 vs a powerloader.

    Too many kids post here I think, they want Marvel superhero movies not Alien.  They want movies for kids, not adults.
    Nah, I think most consumers of these movies are actually fully grown adults, for some reason.

    Who the heck wants a sequel to Covenant with the way it ended. So let me guess... the colonists get infected and someone has to save the day, and it leads into LV-426 in Alien? Ridley is so obsessed with that backdoor shit. Screw that. Damon had the right idea. Run tangentially, not right behind.
    The fun thing about the prequels is that there's no telling what's going to happen, whereas with e.g. a Blomkamp movie it would've been superpredictable (something happens, Alien outbreak, Ripley saves the day). Thank God that Ridley Scott in his old age is willing to break stale conventions, now we just need a slightly tighter script.

    98/94 % critic and fan base still say's your ending Aliens ending sucks. Your Alien in Covenant got beat by one mom, twice.
    The xeno in Covenant is probably not fully evolved, it has an extreme and uncontrolled aggression, and in both cases it was defeated by Daniels, Tennessee and "Walter" working together. The Queen (which is supposed to be stronger than a Warrior) was literally defeated by only Ripley in an exosuit. It's still a decent scene, but with the changes I proposed it would've been much less Disney and would've been more pleasing overall to most mature audience members I'd wager.

    The Queen is probably a lot stronger than a Warrior she was only defeated because she was dropped out into space. Sure the powerloader smacked her around a bit and helped get her into the airlock but if there was no airlock then eventually I'm sure the Queen would figure out how to overpower the machine probably by knocking it over and Ripley would be screwed.
  16. tleilaxu
    For body-horror, maybe, depending on how it's handled, A lot of what makes horror work is what's not shown. PG-13 doesn't automatically mean jump scares, there are a bunch of quality PG-13 horror movies that are scary because of the sense of looming dread, tension, and as mentioned, what isn't shown.

    Shit, aside from the rampant profanity and the colonist chestburster scene in 'Aliens', that movie is practically bloodless. A reworking of the dialogue would turn that movie into an easy PG-13 by today's standards. Even Bishop getting torn in half wouldn't trigger an R-rateing, as the MPAA only cares about actual genuine bona-fide red human blood when it comes to gore. You can show aliens or robots being blasted apart and dismembered to your heart's content, and it's not considered "gory".
    All this undoubtedly carefully planned by James Cameron. Imagine if Hicks or Newt got ripped apart by the Alien queen, the movie wouldn't been anywhere close to as popular as it is now. The soccer moms in the audience would've raged and screamed, but by making the victim a robot that can take being ripped in two, he includes as much of the audience as possible while still doing a good job showcasing the queen's power.

    Also, using Logan and Deadpool as indicators that R-rated movies can do well is a pretty bad representative sample given that both of those movies are capeshit diarrhea which nowadays audiences keep craving in higher and higher doses.

    It wouldn't have been as popular because that's a crap idea.
    Because all the heroes and kids have to survive to make it a good movie? Imagine if the Alien queen had ripped Hicks apart, and Ripley and Bishop had to team up to beat her, with Bishop also getting destroyed in the process. You'd still have the kid surviving to please soccer moms, but the Alien queen would've seemed a lot more powerful as opposed to losing a 1v1 vs a powerloader.

    Too many kids post here I think, they want Marvel superhero movies not Alien.  They want movies for kids, not adults.
    Nah, I think most consumers of these movies are actually fully grown adults, for some reason.

    Who the heck wants a sequel to Covenant with the way it ended. So let me guess... the colonists get infected and someone has to save the day, and it leads into LV-426 in Alien? Ridley is so obsessed with that backdoor shit. Screw that. Damon had the right idea. Run tangentially, not right behind.
    The fun thing about the prequels is that there's no telling what's going to happen, whereas with e.g. a Blomkamp movie it would've been superpredictable (something happens, Alien outbreak, Ripley saves the day). Thank God that Ridley Scott in his old age is willing to break stale conventions, now we just need a slightly tighter script.

    98/94 % critic and fan base still say's your ending Aliens ending sucks. Your Alien in Covenant got beat by one mom, twice.
    The xeno in Covenant is probably not fully evolved, it has an extreme and uncontrolled aggression, and in both cases it was defeated by Daniels, Tennessee and "Walter" working together. The Queen (which is supposed to be stronger than a Warrior) was literally defeated by only Ripley in an exosuit. It's still a decent scene, but with the changes I proposed it would've been much less Disney and would've been more pleasing overall to most mature audience members I'd wager.
  17. Corporal Hicks
    http://www.alien-covenant.com/news/rumor-alien-covenant-sequel-cancelled
    God, sci-fied is absolutely terrible.  They're sighting a React365 article as a source.  That website is for making intentionally fake articles to fool your friends.  I see why that site gets a lot of flak on these boards.

    This article refers to a Blu-Ray forum user.

    That forum post wasn't a headline feature. However, after some extra digging we believe it's credible.

    http://www.alien-covenant.com/news/rumor-alien-covenant-sequel-cancelled
    God, sci-fied is absolutely terrible.  They're sighting a React365 article as a source.  That website is for making intentionally fake articles to fool your friends.  I see why that site gets a lot of flak on these boards.

    This article refers to a Blu-Ray forum user.

    Still more credible than a React365 article.  Those articles are admittedly fake for pranking your friends.

    It also clearly says at the bottom of every React page that - "This website is an entertainment website, news are created by users. These are humourous news, fantasy, fictional, that should not be seriously taken or as a source of information."
  18. necrotard
    http://www.alien-covenant.com/news/rumor-alien-covenant-sequel-cancelled
    God, sci-fied is absolutely terrible.  They're sighting a React365 article as a source.  That website is for making intentionally fake articles to fool your friends.  I see why that site gets a lot of flak on these boards.

    This article refers to a Blu-Ray forum user.

    Still more credible than a React365 article.  Those articles are admittedly fake for pranking your friends.
  19. Paranoid Android
    People are hating the new SW movie because all the comedy in it.

    If you are in the crowd that are just happy for something to be made, cool, but there are people that want to keep the original essence of the films and would rather not see some mass produced thing.
    There was always comedy in the Star Wars films; Lucas simply writes bad jokes.
    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.starwarsreport.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F05%2FLeia_Foul_Stench.jpg&hash=4f1caa660f280b76621758cb5abad863
  20. Highland
    For body-horror, maybe, depending on how it's handled, A lot of what makes horror work is what's not shown. PG-13 doesn't automatically mean jump scares, there are a bunch of quality PG-13 horror movies that are scary because of the sense of looming dread, tension, and as mentioned, what isn't shown.

    Shit, aside from the rampant profanity and the colonist chestburster scene in 'Aliens', that movie is practically bloodless. A reworking of the dialogue would turn that movie into an easy PG-13 by today's standards. Even Bishop getting torn in half wouldn't trigger an R-rateing, as the MPAA only cares about actual genuine bona-fide red human blood when it comes to gore. You can show aliens or robots being blasted apart and dismembered to your heart's content, and it's not considered "gory".
    All this undoubtedly carefully planned by James Cameron. Imagine if Hicks or Newt got ripped apart by the Alien queen, the movie wouldn't been anywhere close to as popular as it is now. The soccer moms in the audience would've raged and screamed, but by making the victim a robot that can take being ripped in two, he includes as much of the audience as possible while still doing a good job showcasing the queen's power.

    Also, using Logan and Deadpool as indicators that R-rated movies can do well is a pretty bad representative sample given that both of those movies are capeshit diarrhea which nowadays audiences keep craving in higher and higher doses.

    It wouldn't have been as popular because that's a crap idea.
    Because all the heroes and kids have to survive to make it a good movie? Imagine if the Alien queen had ripped Hicks apart, and Ripley and Bishop had to team up to beat her, with Bishop also getting destroyed in the process. You'd still have the kid surviving to please soccer moms, but the Alien queen would've seemed a lot more powerful as opposed to losing a 1v1 vs a powerloader.

    Too many kids post here I think, they want Marvel superhero movies not Alien.  They want movies for kids, not adults.
    Nah, I think most consumers of these movies are actually fully grown adults, for some reason.

    Who the heck wants a sequel to Covenant with the way it ended. So let me guess... the colonists get infected and someone has to save the day, and it leads into LV-426 in Alien? Ridley is so obsessed with that backdoor shit. Screw that. Damon had the right idea. Run tangentially, not right behind.
    The fun thing about the prequels is that there's no telling what's going to happen, whereas with e.g. a Blomkamp movie it would've been superpredictable (something happens, Alien outbreak, Ripley saves the day). Thank God that Ridley Scott in his old age is willing to break stale conventions, now we just need a slightly tighter script.

    98/94 % critic and fan base still say's your ending Aliens ending sucks. Your Alien in Covenant got beat by one mom, twice.
  21. SM
    http://www.alien-covenant.com/news/rumor-alien-covenant-sequel-cancelled
    God, sci-fied is absolutely terrible.  They're sighting a React365 article as a source.  That website is for making intentionally fake articles to fool your friends.  I see why that site gets a lot of flak on these boards.

    I'm not one to rag on how other fans want to celebrate their love of the franchise - but sometimes I really scratch my head...
  22. Jonesy1974
    I don't really get the Disney hate either, it just seems to be a band wagon people jump on. The Marvel and Star Wars films they have produced are well made, entertaining and hugely successful.


    Marvel movies are action comedies at this point. People are hating the new SW movie because all the comedy in it.

    Disney destroys the essence of their movies and put out generic stuff.  They make money, no question, but whats the point of a cantina scene with no one smoking or drinking?

    If you are in the crowd that are just happy for something to be made, cool, but there are people that want to keep the original essence of the films and would rather not see some mass produced thing.

    I don't believe that's what they do. I've been a Star Wars fan since I was a kid and the new movies keep the original essence for me. Far more than the prequels did. Some of the gags in TLJ fell flat for me too but it's not like the originals weren't full of humour.

    The only problem with the Marvel movies is they release too many of them too quickly and I'm bored of them but if people are buying it I can't blame them.
  23. DaddyYautja
    I don't really get the Disney hate either, it just seems to be a band wagon people jump on. The Marvel and Star Wars films they have produced are well made, entertaining and hugely successful.


    Marvel movies are action comedies at this point. People are hating the new SW movie because all the comedy in it.

    Disney destroys the essence of their movies and put out generic stuff.  They make money, no question, but whats the point of a cantina scene with no one smoking or drinking?

    If you are in the crowd that are just happy for something to be made, cool, but there are people that want to keep the original essence of the films and would rather not see some mass produced thing.

  24. tleilaxu
    For body-horror, maybe, depending on how it's handled, A lot of what makes horror work is what's not shown. PG-13 doesn't automatically mean jump scares, there are a bunch of quality PG-13 horror movies that are scary because of the sense of looming dread, tension, and as mentioned, what isn't shown.

    Shit, aside from the rampant profanity and the colonist chestburster scene in 'Aliens', that movie is practically bloodless. A reworking of the dialogue would turn that movie into an easy PG-13 by today's standards. Even Bishop getting torn in half wouldn't trigger an R-rateing, as the MPAA only cares about actual genuine bona-fide red human blood when it comes to gore. You can show aliens or robots being blasted apart and dismembered to your heart's content, and it's not considered "gory".
    All this undoubtedly carefully planned by James Cameron. Imagine if Hicks or Newt got ripped apart by the Alien queen, the movie wouldn't been anywhere close to as popular as it is now. The soccer moms in the audience would've raged and screamed, but by making the victim a robot that can take being ripped in two, he includes as much of the audience as possible while still doing a good job showcasing the queen's power.

    Also, using Logan and Deadpool as indicators that R-rated movies can do well is a pretty bad representative sample given that both of those movies are capeshit diarrhea which nowadays audiences keep craving in higher and higher doses.

    It wouldn't have been as popular because that's a crap idea.
    Because all the heroes and kids have to survive to make it a good movie? Imagine if the Alien queen had ripped Hicks apart, and Ripley and Bishop had to team up to beat her, with Bishop also getting destroyed in the process. You'd still have the kid surviving to please soccer moms, but the Alien queen would've seemed a lot more powerful as opposed to losing a 1v1 vs a powerloader.

    Too many kids post here I think, they want Marvel superhero movies not Alien.  They want movies for kids, not adults.
    Nah, I think most consumers of these movies are actually fully grown adults, for some reason.

    Who the heck wants a sequel to Covenant with the way it ended. So let me guess... the colonists get infected and someone has to save the day, and it leads into LV-426 in Alien? Ridley is so obsessed with that backdoor shit. Screw that. Damon had the right idea. Run tangentially, not right behind.
    The fun thing about the prequels is that there's no telling what's going to happen, whereas with e.g. a Blomkamp movie it would've been superpredictable (something happens, Alien outbreak, Ripley saves the day). Thank God that Ridley Scott in his old age is willing to break stale conventions, now we just need a slightly tighter script.
  25. Valentine Hale
    I kinda agree with sir. Ridley Scott, Alien is a legendary sci fi franchise and it deserves a huge fandom (such as better movies). I think i'd like to see rather more Prometheus film, it was so refreshing and s good concept for the expanded universe
  26. Xenomrph
    Too many kids post here I think, they want Marvel superhero movies not Alien.  They want movies for kids, not adults.
    How old are you?

    Just as a litmus test, how old do you think SM is? Or me? :)
    I'm taking a crack at this challenge. My guess is that SM is around 46 and you are 32?
    I want to wait and see what Scorpio says, but I’ll PM you in a bit.
  27. reecebomb
    My only concern is they tend to over saturate the market by making them too regularly. This kills the anticipation for me and leads to fatigue but I can't see them doing that with Alien movies.

    Yeah, that's the one thing I'm mainly concerned about as well. A good Alien/Predator film causing Disney to push these films out every year. That said, it's what I consider as one of them 'good' problems.

    Pixar no longer isn't what it used to be either.
    Their post-Disney track record includes: Wall-E, Up, Toy Story 3, Inside Out and Coco. They released some of their best films under Disney.

    Tbf Coco indeed is a sign that things are going up again, no need to waste talent on another Cars sequel.
  28. Paranoid Android
    My only concern is they tend to over saturate the market by making them too regularly. This kills the anticipation for me and leads to fatigue but I can't see them doing that with Alien movies.

    Yeah, that's the one thing I'm mainly concerned about as well. A good Alien/Predator film causing Disney to push these films out every year. That said, it's what I consider as one of them 'good' problems.

    Pixar no longer isn't what it used to be either.
    Their post-Disney track record includes: Wall-E, Up, Toy Story 3, Inside Out and Coco. They released some of their best films under Disney.
  29. Jonesy1974
    I don't really get the Disney hate either, it just seems to be a band wagon people jump on. The Marvel and Star Wars films they have produced are well made, entertaining and hugely successful.

    My only concern is they tend to over saturate the market by making them too regularly. This kills the anticipation for me and leads to fatigue but I can't see them doing that with Alien movies.
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