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Updated: It’s Official! Disney Has Bought 20th Century Fox!

After weeks of speculation, it has finally been confirmed that Disney has purchased 20th Century Fox! The full press release doesn’t seem to indicate whether 20th Century Fox will continue to operate as it’s own entity under Disney’s ownership or if all of Fox’s properties will be absorbed under the Disney banner, nor does it specifically name-drop the Alien or Predator series when listing the bigger Fox properties.

“The Walt Disney Company and Twenty-First Century Fox, Inc. today announced that they have entered into a definitive agreement for Disney to acquire 21st Century Fox, including the Twentieth Century Fox Film and Television studios, along with cable and international TV businesses, for approximately $52.4 billion in stock (subject to adjustment). Building on Disney’s commitment to deliver the highest quality branded entertainment, the acquisition of these complementary assets would allow Disney to create more appealing content, build more direct relationships with consumers around the world and deliver a more compelling entertainment experience to consumers wherever and however they choose. Immediately prior to the acquisition, 21st Century Fox will separate the Fox Broadcasting network and stations, Fox News Channel, Fox Business Network, FS1, FS2 and Big Ten Network into a newly listed company that will be spun off to its shareholders.

Combining with Disney are 21st Century Fox’s critically acclaimed film production businesses, including Twentieth Century Fox, Fox Searchlight Pictures and Fox 2000, which together offer diverse and compelling storytelling businesses and are the homes of Avatar, X-Men, Fantastic Four and Deadpool, as well as The Grand Budapest Hotel, Hidden Figures, Gone Girl, The Shape of Water and The Martian—and its storied television creative units, Twentieth Century Fox Television, FX Productions and Fox21, which have brought The Americans, This Is Us, Modern Family, The Simpsons and so many more hit TV series to viewers across the globe. Disney will also acquire FX Networks, National Geographic Partners, Fox Sports Regional Networks, Fox Networks Group International, Star India and Fox’s interests in Hulu, Sky plc, Tata Sky and Endemol Shine Group.

“The acquisition of this stellar collection of businesses from 21st Century Fox reflects the increasing consumer demand for a rich diversity of entertainment experiences that are more compelling, accessible and convenient than ever before,” said Robert A. Iger, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Walt Disney Company. “We’re honored and grateful that Rupert Murdoch has entrusted us with the future of businesses he spent a lifetime building, and we’re excited about this extraordinary opportunity to significantly increase our portfolio of well-loved franchises and branded content to greatly enhance our growing direct-to-consumer offerings. The deal will also substantially expand our international reach, allowing us to offer world-class storytelling and innovative distribution platforms to more consumers in key markets around the world.”

 It's Official! Disney Has Bought 20th Century Fox!

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“We are extremely proud of all that we have built at 21st Century Fox, and I firmly believe that this combination with Disney will unlock even more value for shareholders as the new Disney continues to set the pace in what is an exciting and dynamic industry,” said Rupert Murdoch, Executive Chairman of 21st Century Fox. “Furthermore, I’m convinced that this combination, under Bob Iger’s leadership, will be one of the greatest companies in the world. I’m grateful and encouraged that Bob has agreed to stay on, and is committed to succeeding with a combined team that is second to none.”

So the big question is what does this all mean for the Alien and Predator franchises? I think the knee-jerk reaction to hearing that Disney now owns Alien and Predator would be to expect that the series would lose their R-rating and subsequently their edge. Disney is, however, certainly no stranger to putting out R rated films. For the better part of the 90s and into the early 2000’s, Disney owned Miramax Films which distributed many of Quinten Tarantino’s films.

Will Disney continue with Scott’s plans for the prequel series, will they turn their sights on rebooting the series or will future Alien films simply be dropped? How does this merge effect The Predator which is currently in post-production? Until we hear more from Disney, the shape the future of franchises is simply unclear for now.

Another concern I have following this deal is what happens to the publishers of the expanded universe. Since the 80s, Alien and Predator comics have been within the care of Dark Horse comics. My worry is that like with Star Wars, Disney may shift the comics away from their traditional publishers to the Disney owned publisher, Marvel.

As well as that, Disney doesn’t use Titan Books to publish their Star Wars novels. Titan has been publishing Alien and Predator books for nearly the better part of the last decade and in my opinion, they’ve been doing a great job with regularly publishing great books! I’d hate to see the expanded universe move away from Dark Horse or Titan.

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Update #1 (15/12/2017) – This update is not directly related to Alien or Predator but is in regards to Deadpool’s move over to a Disney owned Marvel. Addressing that concerns that the buy-out would result in Deadpool losing it’s R-rating, Disney’s CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there is a place within a Disney owned Marvel for R-rated content:

““It [Deadpool] clearly has been and will be Marvel branded. But we think there might be an opportunity for a Marvel-R brand for something like Deadpool. As long as we let the audiences know what’s coming, we think we can manage that fine.” 

This should appease fans that are concerned that any Alien or Predator films under Disney ownership would automatically be PG-13 rated. Thanks to Russ for the news.

Update #2 (15/12/2017) – Those of you worrying about how this new buy-out might effect The Predator, fear not! All films that are currently in production are safe!

On the film front, employees are being told that films are still being greenlit and that production on such major upcoming releases as “Gambit,” an X-Men spinoff, is expected to still commence in the coming months.

Like Rice, Snider has stressed that over the next year and a half until the deal closes, it will be “business as usual” and she told staffers that she expects them “to do what we do at a high level of excellence and with our typical swagger.”

Hopefully this extends to all the current and upcoming merchandising releases. This comes via Variety. Thanks to Whos_Nick for the heads up.



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  1. Perfect-Organism
    The new Star Wars definitely wasn't so bad that it deserved all the negative response.  Pretty cool film actually, though I will admit watching so many negative online reviews made it feel a bit spoiled after the fact for me.  I mean I watched the movie first before seeing any commentaries and it was fun, then the negativity kind of ruined it for me... a bit.  Not completely.
  2. tleilaxu
    People don't like anything. They're all going to die young of heart attacks from self-induced stress.

    Sometimes it really seems that way, with the fractured fandoms, hipster hate BS, and the obnoxious decline of YouTube reviewers and criticism in general going around. I really hate how it's all gone together to gaslight the public, to convince us that what we saw wasn't what we actually saw, that something we know for a fact is great is shit, and vice versa. Coupled with certain individuals' self-righteous, self-absorbed, bordering on messianic tendencies and beliefs (the obvious decline of promising individuals like Doug Walker aka The Nostalgia Critic, TheMysteriousMrEnter and Angry Joe, and the undeserved attention or fandom of CinemaSins, RedLetterMedia, moviebob, ReviewTechUSA and ConfusedMatthew), it all leads to a thoroughly toxic environment where it seems like no one can just enjoy a movie, a game, a show or a book without flame wars, being at each others' throats, and interjecting themes and beliefs (religious, social, economic or political) in their viewings of these things when they weren't actually there in the first place, something extremists on the left and the right are very guilty of. Not to mention, it's so easy for lazy myths and memes to become established fact, whether it is Star Wars not actually being good past the original trilogy, The Simpsons being in creative decline simply because no season past Season 8 is a virtually perfect one anymore even if the show is still in fact quite funny and yes, heartwarming, Metallica not doing anything worthwhile after Master of Puppets, Call of Duty being irredeemably awful and having "killed real FPS titles", and on and on. It's truly sickening. Do people just want to look for things to hate and take any chance to tear it down, even if it means contradicting an earlier point they made?
    The thing is, social media has our inherent tribalism ramped up to 11. Popular narratives affect us everyday on various platforms. The vast majority of people are so blind to themselves and the way their reactions, thoughts and behavior are shaped by outside factor. I've read a few comments here with people saying "I liked TLJ on the first view, but then thinking about the movie over a couple of days I realized bla bla" i. e. "I liked the movie at first, but then my opinion was slowly warped by youtube reviews with lots of views and likes.".
    This thing only seems to get worse. Fake news, targeted ads, climate change deniers, organic food fanatics etc. will only increase.

    That thing about Metallica is pretty much true though.
  3. Toxic34
    People don't like anything. They're all going to die young of heart attacks from self-induced stress.

    Sometimes it really seems that way, with the fractured fandoms, hipster hate BS, and the obnoxious decline of YouTube reviewers and criticism in general going around. I really hate how it's all gone together to gaslight the public, to convince us that what we saw wasn't what we actually saw, that something we know for a fact is great is shit, and vice versa. Coupled with certain individuals' self-righteous, self-absorbed, bordering on messianic tendencies and beliefs (the obvious decline of promising individuals like Doug Walker aka The Nostalgia Critic, TheMysteriousMrEnter and Angry Joe, and the undeserved attention or fandom of CinemaSins, RedLetterMedia, moviebob, ReviewTechUSA and ConfusedMatthew), it all leads to a thoroughly toxic environment where it seems like no one can just enjoy a movie, a game, a show or a book without flame wars, being at each others' throats, and interjecting themes and beliefs (religious, social, economic or political) in their viewings of these things when they weren't actually there in the first place, something extremists on the left and the right are very guilty of. Not to mention, it's so easy for lazy myths and memes to become established fact, whether it is Star Wars not actually being good past the original trilogy, The Simpsons being in creative decline simply because no season past Season 8 is a virtually perfect one anymore even if the show is still in fact quite funny and yes, heartwarming, Metallica not doing anything worthwhile after Master of Puppets, Call of Duty being irredeemably awful and having "killed real FPS titles", and on and on. It's truly sickening. Do people just want to look for things to hate and take any chance to tear it down, even if it means contradicting an earlier point they made?
  4. Corporal Hicks
    You could well be right in a new Ripley figure simply being another positive female role model rather than a character that develops and shows her worth. Essentially you don't make one sex look stronger by making the other look weaker, far better to write believable characters that both men and women can relate to.

    To be honest, I wish we'd just have characters and they sort gender depending on the actor/resses they cast for the role. Any changes for gender can be made then.
  5. Gash
    Star Wars was a sausage party for 6 films over the better part of 30 years, and now because there's more than one woman per saga people are whining about 'social justice'?

    ffs...

    From what I gather reading various reviews I don't think it's about the amount of women who appear in the film (I thought all the female cast were very good) it's that there are people claiming the reason it's one of the best films is because it's a reaction against toxic masculinity, apparently the new buzz phrase. Personally if the phrase was excessive machismo, I could buy into that notion to a certain degree. I'd say though that it is largely reviewers pushing their own agendas and putting Disney's approach under the spotlight that's making it more of a talking point than it needs to be.
  6. tleilaxu
    I'm definitely not a fan of overtly political bullshit myself. For example, I cringed during the "animal abuse and slavery are bad" part, but never once during this film did I feel like I was having "women r good" shoved down my throat.
    Like, I can't help but feel that if somebody felt they were being forced fed SJW-ism, that person might actually harbor some subconscious sexism.
  7. SM
    Star Wars was a sausage party for 6 films over the better part of 30 years, and now because there's more than one woman per saga people are whining about 'social justice'?

    ffs...
  8. Gash
    I’m amazed at all of the negative feedback on here. How can you give up on these franchise just because Disney has bought out Fox. I mean c’mon! Fox had their chance and they’ve bungled things for decades. The Alien and Predator franchises have had no clear direction. No end game  and certainly no continuity. I know not everyone is a fan of the “ new Star Wars “ films but look at what Disney has done for the franchise! It’s bigger and better than ever! We have Star Wars coming out of our ears. Just imagine what the Disney machine can do for Alien!

    Over commercialise it? Yeah, that is a worry.

    If they continue to make Alien films, I'd hope they'd realise it's horror first and foremost, it supposed to be disturbing. Happy endings are not to be predicted.


    I see a lot of people complain about the "sjw" theme in the new Star Wars movie. I think the reason why I don't see any complaints over Ripley is that she clearly worked hard and suffered in order to survive. We could see the sweat, blood, and her hard breathing. It was believable that she survived when the others who were more trained and more stronger didn't. I'm afraid that the next series would lose this theme if Disney buys Fox.

    The SJW thing in the latest Star Wars is, I believe, more to do with Kathleen Kennedy's making an issue where there really wasn't one to redress. Leia more than held her own against her two contemporaries in the original trilogy, TLJ does big up the female wisdom and aptitude at the expense of portraying males as hot headed characters that need to be sidelined or put in their place. It strangely comes across as far more sexist than a film made in 1977. To me it was the one really obvious flaw in an otherwise enjoyable film. 'The Force is Female' as Kennedy quipped, is not really the egalitarian approach to character study you could hope for.

    You could well be right in a new Ripley figure simply being another positive female role model rather than a character that develops and shows her worth. Essentially you don't make one sex look stronger by making the other look weaker, far better to write believable characters that both men and women can relate to.
  9. The Highlander MacLeod
    Ridley Scott reminds me of George Lucas in that regard: He's a great visual storyteller, but writing wise, it's not his strong point.
  10. Shinawi
    I see a lot of people complain about the "sjw" theme in the new Star Wars movie. I think the reason why I don't see any complaints over Ripley is that she clearly worked hard and suffered in order to survive. We could see the sweat, blood, and her hard breathing. It was believable that she survived when the others who were more trained and more stronger didn't. I'm afraid that the next series would lose this theme if Disney buys Fox.
  11. tleilaxu
    Scott told Lindelof to these some plot points ambiguous (mysterious), because he felt it was more interesting that way.

    I understand why Scott told Lindelof to do it but the point is Scott told Lindelof to do it, despite Lindelof's warnings about his experience doing that kind of thing on Lost.

    For all the people wondering if Disney is going to completely rule out the idea of making an R film, you're wrong. It also bought Fox Searchlight, the "independent" movie portion of Fox. The part that produced Juno, Birdman, and particularly, Black Swan. I don't see this as a move of Disney moving to continue to go down the course of just producing media for children and teenagers.

    I really believe they want a piece of the pie for adults as well. I mean why would Fox Searchlight be part of the deal if they didn't?

    You don't really need to include Fox Searchlight as such - they bought Fox.  Fox makes R-rated films.

    Whos_Nick mentioned somewhere that Disney are keeping Fox Searchlight and Fox 2000 as their own entities so it might be likely that any R-rated properties might be shifted under those banners.

    Do you guys think that we will finally get to see the NC-17 version of Predator 2? Now that Disney owns the Predator franchise. They should release it in a new DVD/Blu-ray set. That would be so awsome

    It's unlikely but we can hope so.
    Scott was right in the end about it though. It does make the film more interesting to watch when you have to fill in some of the holes with your own imagination instead of having everything told to you in minute detail. The latter will almost always fall flat too.
    The biggest weaknesses in Prometheus and Covenant are really the weak character decisions and a few nonsensical plot points.
  12. Corporal Hicks
    Scott told Lindelof to these some plot points ambiguous (mysterious), because he felt it was more interesting that way.

    I understand why Scott told Lindelof to do it but the point is Scott told Lindelof to do it, despite Lindelof's warnings about his experience doing that kind of thing on Lost.

    For all the people wondering if Disney is going to completely rule out the idea of making an R film, you're wrong. It also bought Fox Searchlight, the "independent" movie portion of Fox. The part that produced Juno, Birdman, and particularly, Black Swan. I don't see this as a move of Disney moving to continue to go down the course of just producing media for children and teenagers.

    I really believe they want a piece of the pie for adults as well. I mean why would Fox Searchlight be part of the deal if they didn't?

    You don't really need to include Fox Searchlight as such - they bought Fox.  Fox makes R-rated films.

    Whos_Nick mentioned somewhere that Disney are keeping Fox Searchlight and Fox 2000 as their own entities so it might be likely that any R-rated properties might be shifted under those banners.

    Do you guys think that we will finally get to see the NC-17 version of Predator 2? Now that Disney owns the Predator franchise. They should release it in a new DVD/Blu-ray set. That would be so awsome

    It's unlikely but we can hope so.
  13. SM
    For all the people wondering if Disney is going to completely rule out the idea of making an R film, you're wrong. It also bought Fox Searchlight, the "independent" movie portion of Fox. The part that produced Juno, Birdman, and particularly, Black Swan. I don't see this as a move of Disney moving to continue to go down the course of just producing media for children and teenagers.

    I really believe they want a piece of the pie for adults as well. I mean why would Fox Searchlight be part of the deal if they didn't?

    You don't really need to include Fox Searchlight as such - they bought Fox.  Fox makes R-rated films.
  14. Alionic
    A lot of talented people worked on Prometheus and Alien Covenant too, you know.

    It's not like Alien was a collaborative effort but Prometheus/Covenant is 100% Ridley.

    Damn right there were many talented people working on the prequels but they weren't the ones in the driving seat. Scott has far more sway than he used to. People don't vito his "bad ideas" like they used to - like that bites off Ripley's head and talks ending for Alien.

    The narrative of these prequels is pretty much coming from Ridley. He's calling the shots. We may get the odd studio mandated thing (the Alien in Covenant) but he's the one dictating where the story is going, he's the one telling the writers what to do. Scott isn't a writer. His writers aren't telling him what is a bad idea and if he is, they're not being listened too. Lindelof and warning Scott about the lack of clarity with Prometheus, Spaihts having to figure out how to include Scott's random ideas into Engineers.

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    Maybe the intention is to downplay Ridley Scott's role in crafting the original Alien, because of all the vitriol for the prequels.

    Not at all. Just to remind people that Alien's success doesn't lie all on Scott's shoulders. He didn't enjoy the influence he has now, back then.

    Scott told Lindelof to these some plot points ambiguous (mysterious), because he felt it was more interesting that way.
  15. NetworkATTH
    For all the people wondering if Disney is going to completely rule out the idea of making an R film, you're wrong. It also bought Fox Searchlight, the "independent" movie portion of Fox. The part that produced Juno, Birdman, and particularly, Black Swan. I don't see this as a move of Disney moving to continue to go down the course of just producing media for children and teenagers.

    I really believe they want a piece of the pie for adults as well. I mean why would Fox Searchlight be part of the deal if they didn't?
  16. The Eighth Passenger
    Damn right there were many talented people working on the prequels but they weren't the ones in the driving seat. Scott has far more sway than he used to. People don't vito his "bad ideas" like they used to - like that bites off Ripley's head and talks ending for Alien.

    The narrative of these prequels is pretty much coming from Ridley. He's calling the shots. We may get the odd studio mandated thing (the Alien in Covenant) but he's the one dictating where the story is going, he's the one telling the writers what to do. Scott isn't a writer. His writers aren't telling him what is a bad idea and if he is, they're not being listened too. Lindelof and warning Scott about the lack of clarity with Prometheus, Spaihts having to figure out how to include Scott's random ideas into Engineers.

    You've nailed it exactly. Ridley Scott isn't a writer but the way he develops his scripts nowadays he might as well be picking up a pen and writing it himself.

    And when he doesn't actually develop the script himself you get The Martian (92% RT) and All the Money in the World (90% RT). Or Alien and Blade Runner, back in the day when he wasn't yet a victim of his own immense success and writers and producers still had the guts to say no to his iffy story ideas.

    People don't vito his "bad ideas" like they used to - like that bites off Ripley's head and talks ending for Alien.

    Or Ash the Martian!  :laugh:

     


  17. Corporal Hicks
    A lot of talented people worked on Prometheus and Alien Covenant too, you know.

    It's not like Alien was a collaborative effort but Prometheus/Covenant is 100% Ridley.

    Damn right there were many talented people working on the prequels but they weren't the ones in the driving seat. Scott has far more sway than he used to. People don't vito his "bad ideas" like they used to - like that bites off Ripley's head and talks ending for Alien.

    The narrative of these prequels is pretty much coming from Ridley. He's calling the shots. We may get the odd studio mandated thing (the Alien in Covenant) but he's the one dictating where the story is going, he's the one telling the writers what to do. Scott isn't a writer. His writers aren't telling him what is a bad idea and if he is, they're not being listened too. Lindelof and warning Scott about the lack of clarity with Prometheus, Spaihts having to figure out how to include Scott's random ideas into Engineers.

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    Maybe the intention is to downplay Ridley Scott's role in crafting the original Alien, because of all the vitriol for the prequels.

    Not at all. Just to remind people that Alien's success doesn't lie all on Scott's shoulders. He didn't enjoy the influence he has now, back then.
  18. Scorpio
    I doubt he had more or less control, other than the script because he was involved in that on Prometheus/Covenant, but not on Alien 1979 where it was already done and he was director for hire.  Other than that I don't get how he has more pull now. 

    This is not like a George Lucas situation where he owns the property and can do what he wants.
  19. Huggs
    "A lot of talented people worked on Prometheus and Alien Covenant too, you know."

    That's a very valid point. And in know way was I understating the capabilities of the crews of those films. I've stated before that no matter what anyone who dislikes Covenant thinks, there can be no doubt that it was designed and filmed as well as could be.

    My point was merely that Ridley has got his vision and by golly that's what is going on the film. Back in 1979, if I recall Ridley may not have been in that particular position. You had a group of excellent people working toward a common goal. The man has got serious pull now.

    And he's gonna use it.
  20. Scorpio
    A lot of talented people worked on Prometheus and Alien Covenant too, you know.

    It's not like Alien was a collaborative effort but Prometheus/Covenant is 100% Ridley.

    Maybe the intention is to downplay Ridley Scott's role in crafting the original Alien, because of all the vitriol for the prequels.
  21. Huggs
    "No, unfortunately he's a victim of his own success where he's no longer a part of a bigger machine whose talents work together to make an all around great film - Alien"

    Well said. Alien 1979 was one of those instances where all the right people came together to make the perfect film. And it goes without saying, everyone else aside, without Mr. Giger, this universe and it's wonderful films may well never have existed. The uniqueness and beauty of the beast is a key reason it has survived this long. When you hear the name "Ridley Scott", it can be easy to forget all the talented folks who made the original film what it was. But assuming Ridley can push through something of similar quality is like listening to Zeppelin play without either Plant or Jimmy Page. You know what you're hearing, but it's not everything it could and should be.
  22. monkeylove
    This is just a fancy way of saying Disney doesn't like to take any risks (greed). Just look at the The Last Jedi; it's full of forced comedy and generic elements from classic Star Wars, again.

    If Disney were to do this with an ALIEN, it would undoubtedly be with Cameron's movie, because action sells. And you're spot on about Disney's business model expecting ridiculous amounts of profit in return, which makes the dreaded PG-13 rating all the more plausible. *shudders*

    The PG rating might also be seen as a sweet spot.
  23. Perfect-Organism
    Disney knows this series is still chugging along because of Cameron's masterpiece Aliens.  My bet is that they find a way to continue that story and give us more like that.  ...which would be epic!

    Think of it this way, Disney gets Avatar which is the icing on this cake.  But Avatar lives off of many of the same elements that made Aliens great, sooo... they get 2 Cameron master works.  It's a no brainer which direction the should go in..
  24. Alionic
    A lot of people are assuming that Disney will do a soft reboot of the Alien series. Certainly, that makes sense if you look at how they've handled Star Wars.

    However, there is also a strong possibility that Disney just shelves the entire film series for some time, possibly forever. While I am just speculating and do not claim to have inside information, if you examine Disney's business model, they are not in the business of small returns on investment.

    Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar - they all invest millions and expect millions upon millions more in profit.

    If the Disney deal goes through, they may took a look at Alien and decide that it doesn't fit within Disney's pre-established business model. Prometheus (a new take on the Alien series) made a decent return - but not the level Disney generally expects. Alien Covenant (a sort of throwback to the original) probably broke even/made a small profit. Also, not Disney's traditional standard for financial success. Disney is in the business of making a few movies - but all are expected to be heavy weights.

    Unless they change business strategy, the Alien series may just not be what Disney is interested in economically.

    This is just a fancy way of saying Disney doesn't like to take any risks (greed). Just look at the The Last Jedi; it's full of forced comedy and generic elements from classic Star Wars, again.

    If Disney were to do this with an ALIEN, it would undoubtedly be with Cameron's movie, because action sells. And you're spot on about Disney's business model expecting ridiculous amounts of profit in return, which makes the dreaded PG-13 rating all the more plausible. *shudders*
  25. Prof. a
    A lot of people are assuming that Disney will do a soft reboot of the Alien series. Certainly, that makes sense if you look at how they've handled Star Wars.

    However, there is also a strong possibility that Disney just shelves the entire film series for some time, possibly forever. While I am just speculating and do not claim to have inside information, if you examine Disney's business model, they are not in the business of small returns on investment.

    Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar - they all invest millions and expect millions upon millions more in profit.

    If the Disney deal goes through, they may took a look at Alien and decide that it doesn't fit within Disney's pre-established business model. Prometheus (a new take on the Alien series) made a decent return - but not the level Disney generally expects. Alien Covenant (a sort of throwback to the original) probably broke even/made a small profit. Also, not Disney's traditional standard for financial success. Disney is in the business of making a few movies - but all are expected to be heavy weights.

    Unless they change business strategy, the Alien series may just not be what Disney is interested in economically.

    People have to keep this one very important fact in mind - Disney intends to launch its own streaming service to compete with Netflix. That was likely one of the major reasons to acquire Fox - to get their vast library to place on this new streaming service.

    They are not necessarily interested in re-launching all of Fox's storied franchises. There is of course a possibility that they could create an Alien TV show or even a lower budgeted movie made specifically for this new service (not theatrical release).
  26. ROYCE_THE_PREDATOR
    Is The Predator movie called that because of the 10 foot Predator that we are going to see in the movie? There must be a meaning for the title. That’s the Pred that will reclaim the stolen technology from the humans.
  27. ROYCE_THE_PREDATOR
    It’s funny how Fox got to do a 4th Predator film just like doing 4 Alien films right before the Disney deal. Not counting the Avp films. What I mean is

    Fox- Predator, Predator 2, Predators, The Predator.

    Fox- Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Ressurrection.
  28. Corporal Hicks
    What if Scott's third prequel establishes that David is the re-creator and not the creator?  Wouldn't that undo some of the "damage" that Covenant haters perceive?

    While I don't hate Covenant, I severely dislike how it shoehorned and used the Aliens in the film. I think I'd be willing to accept that retcon but with how poorly they handled the "course correction" on Covenant I'm not sure I'd feel confident that any course correction in Awakening would be any good.

    At least Ridley has a vision.  Some may not like it, but Ridley is a real filmmaker.  He's made more classics than most directors alive today.  He's not just another Disney hack making a movie run by committee. 

    No, unfortunately he's a victim of his own success where he's no longer a part of a bigger machine whose talents work together to make an all around great film - Alien.

    I'd classify Covenant haters:

    1.  Massive Aliens fanboys who just want more colonial marines, pulse rifles, etc
    2.  Kids (see above)
    3.  Conservative Alien fans who believe everything must stick to the previously established rules
    4.  Homophobes (?)

     :)

    But seriously, if you don't like Covenant that's your business and I don't mean to imply anything.

    You're dogged refusal to accept any other than these reasons for people's dislike for Covenant is just painful to read. It's as bad as the people who throw shade at fans of Covenant.

    I'll just leave it at this:

    The reason we have aliens in Covenant is because of online complaints.

    Of a complaint so far down on the list of the reasons people disliked Prometheus.
  29. OpenMaw
    I know! But that's what I love about it.

    In a parallel reality where more art-housey Alien films could get made, someone like David Fincher or David Cronenburg delivering such a deliciously bleak and nasty film.
  30. OpenMaw
    I'd rather have Scott finish his trilogy than just another bug hunt movie. If not just adapt one of DH Alien comics.

    A lot of DH comics are "bug hunt" scenarios.

    I've always said i'd love to see one of the strange ones, like Labrynth, get turned into a movie, but SM was right when he said it wouldn't happen. Not conventional enough.

    That's precisely what I would expect Disney to do. Something on the straight and narrow. Well made, but probably not too memorable.
  31. Huggs
    "It's just sounds too normal"

    I agree. That's kind of what I was going for. It's honestly what I figured Scott would do if he chose to focus on David's obsession with Shaw, or just a basic (bare bones) continuation of Prometheus. Perhaps the unwanted inclusion of the xenomorphs in Covenant, may have had a more significant effect on the finished film than I first thought. I do hope though that we one day get at least a novel or something that more thoroughly details the events leading from Prometheus to covenant. It might make for some good close-quarters tension, and any further information David learned about the engineers would be interesting. Regardless of what happens to the franchise after the 3rd film, I hope Ridley really nails it home with the last one. I may not be a fan of the prequels, but if we must have one more, I'd rather it be a solid film, and see Ridley go out strong.
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