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Is The New Alien Sequel Being Held Back By Prometheus 2?

poster Is The New Alien Sequel Being Held Back By Prometheus 2?It’s no secret that certain things have been changed in Blomkamp’s Alien sequel because of events in Ridley Scott’s Prometheus 2. Bloody Disgusting now brings word that Blomkamp’s Alien sequel is being deliberately held back so that Ridley Scott can start production on the Prometheus sequel. The report also speculates that Prometheus 2 will film next year for release in 2017 while Neill Blomkamp’s Alien 5 movie will shoot in 2017 for release in 2018.

While Twentieth Century Fox is still hot on the project, our sources tell us that they’re being forced to hold off until after Ridley Scott gets into production on his long-gestured Prometheus sequel. This means a lengthy development process for Blomkamp’s Alien, and a potential release in 2018. “Alien 5 is still very much in the works, as Fox remains hot on the idea,” our regular tipster tells us. “Blomkamp continues to work on the script (only an outline existed previously) and refine the tale he is telling. Ridley Scott is still producing, but has insisted on Prometheus 2 being made first.” Blomkamp will continue to slowly prep Alien 5 while Scott goes off and makes Prometheus 2 early next year.

Prometheus 2 in 2017 and Alien 5 in 2018? Is The New Alien Sequel Being Held Back By Prometheus 2?

Prometheus 2 in 2017 and Alien 5 in 2018?

But there’s an even larger roadblock that’s being avoided by the feet dragging. Our insider says the “delay” will allow Blomkamp more time to develop his project and afford him the ability to work around any scheduling issues that may arise in reference to Sigourney Weaver’s involvement with James Cameron’s Avatar sequels. If all goes well, Blomkamp will likely shoot Alien 5 sometime in 2017, ahead of a release the following year. So that gives fans a one-two punch of Scott’s Prometheus 2 in 2017 and Blomkamp’s own Alien film in 2018. Things are subject to change, of course, but this is the current plan, so says our source.

None of this is really much of a surprise since Prometheus 2 has been in the works since the first movie came out in 2012 and yet we never seem to be getting any closer to a sequel. Though this news does support what we heard two weeks ago about Prometheus 2 potentially filming in January 2016. Hopefully, Ridley Scott will give us a Prometheus 2 update soon.



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  1. System Apollo
    As a fan I find it rather nerve racking to know that an entire sequel is going to get picked out like spoiled fruit from a batch. Surely anything can be done well given the approach to it but we've had some pretty lack luster installments for more than 20 years now so I can feel the displacement towards this sequel. And I can't really imagine Neill being much of a fan of the Alien source materials ironically seeing as he might just remove an entire continuation from the series existence.  :laugh:

    Someone over at GAvP brought up a pretty good consensus when looking at most of the news for Alien 5.

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    Sometimes it is nice to remain optimistic and hopeful but I'm not letting it blind me from something that is just logically a bad idea to begin with. Hell last time I had that kind of attitude was when the Stause Bros worked on AvPR and I'm not willing to put myself in the position of feeling that magnitude of disappointment again.

    Of course, someone would have to try with the likelihood of failing in becoming worse than the Brothers Strause...
  2. whiterabbit
    Sorry I unlocked it.
    About time someone did the righteous justice.

    Thread should've ended here. Locked.

    Why? "Being put on hold" does not equal "being held up by Pro 2".

    The former implies development hell. The latter implies scheduling.
    When you put it that way... rescheduling sounds nicer. Still I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have the story yet. We surely deserve better than terminator genisys material, I think.
  3. TheBATMAN
    Personally I think this is a good move. The fans will be more forgiving with Prometheus 2 if it goes on an even further tangent from Alien, knowing that they have Blomkamp's film to compensate shortly afterwards. Ridley Scott can now crack on knowing there won't be so much weight on his shoulders in terms of having to connect to Alien, which can only be a good thing.
  4. Murfy426
    If we do truly have to wait till 2017/18 for alien 5 because of the Prometheus sequel then its a curse and a blessing. It gives blomkamp a good amount of time to ponder the story and plan for it. While at the same time gives us longer in expectation for the release of a film we have waited so many years for.
     Just imagine the excitement of walking into that cinema, watching all the damn trailers, our years long wait prolonged by another 20 minutes and the movie starts and its everything we hoped it would be.
     Now the negative side would be if it came on and we all hated it but part of me truly believes it will sate our lust for a good service to the franchise and to see giger's monsters on the big screen once again.
     If it does turn bad though I would feel very sorry for blomkamp, since he would probably be hated much more than randy pitchford and that my friends would be a level of collective hate greater than anything before it lol.
  5. The Eighth Passenger
    There's a new article on Bloody Disgusting who have a source suggesting that Blomkamp's Alien 5 is being held up by Prometheus 2. Not a real surprise. They do speculate that Alien 5 will shoot in 2017 with a release in 2018. Prometheus 2 will be shooting next year for release in 2017.

    The Alien 5 IMDb page "Production Status" entry was recently updated and confirms that shooting is expected to commence in 2017. Keep in mind that this section can only be edited by the production company (or a representative) or an IMDb administrator so this perhaps makes it a little bit more official.

    Assuming of course that an IMDb mod didn't just take BD's speculation as fact.

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    Production Notes from IMDbPro
    Status: Pre-production
    Comments: Shooting expected to begin in 2017.
    Updated: 22 August 2015
  6. Xenomorphine
    This guy is getting on my nerves first he says he is not trying do undo Alien 3 then he tells Bien he is going to retcon it just be straight up if it is or not being holded up seriously this guy is getting to me.

    An alleged insider has been reported as saying that might not be the case. Read the article:

    "...not sure if Biehn's assertions about it ignoring 3 & 4 are accurate. It’s basically far too early to tell on that front right now."
  7. THE CITY HUNTER
    This guy is getting on my nerves first he says he is not trying do undo Alien 3 then he tells Bien he is going to retcon it just be straight up if it is or not being holded up seriously this guy is getting to me.
  8. D. Compton Ambrose
    The real problem was not leaving Ripley alone after Alien 3. She had her arc and it was pretty much perfect. A:R took that away from her. As for the AvP films, I'm old school. They are spin-off's pure and simple. You don't create a multiverse into a series that has no grounds for it. My biggest hope for Alien 5 is that Blomkamp goes down the route of a new story in the universe, not create things that will overlap or breakdown the originals.

    The good thing about Alien Resurrection is that it is set so far in the future that you can pretty much ignore it without affecting it.

    The absolute best solution is have a Ripley-free Alien film that just simply brings credability back to the franchise in order to pave the way for good quality follow ups and spin offs.

    Two-hundred years isn't really that long in the grand scheme of things. That was the era of Napoleon and if you look at a map of Europe and compare it to today, they aren't mutually exclusive in regard to recognition. The world may have changed technologically since then, but ideologically and politically we're pretty much in the same glorious shit hole.
  9. irn
    The real problem was not leaving Ripley alone after Alien 3. She had her arc and it was pretty much perfect. A:R took that away from her. As for the AvP films, I'm old school. They are spin-off's pure and simple. You don't create a multiverse into a series that has no grounds for it. My biggest hope for Alien 5 is that Blomkamp goes down the route of a new story in the universe, not create things that will overlap or breakdown the originals.

    The good thing about Alien Resurrection is that it is set so far in the future that you can pretty much ignore it without affecting it.

    The absolute best solution is have a Ripley-free Alien film that just simply brings credability back to the franchise in order to pave the way for good quality follow ups and spin offs.
  10. hfeldhaus
    The real problem was not leaving Ripley alone after Alien 3. She had her arc and it was pretty much perfect. A:R took that away from her. As for the AvP films, I'm old school. They are spin-off's pure and simple. You don't create a multiverse into a series that has no grounds for it. My biggest hope for Alien 5 is that Blomkamp goes down the route of a new story in the universe, not create things that will overlap or breakdown the originals.
  11. irn
    The whole thing is a joke. On the one hand you can easily say AVP is only canon to the Predator series, for instance, but this business of subdividing things and saying for instance that Promtheus through Blomkamp's film is the core story or just alien thru a:r is another or alien thru blomkamp or avp through a:r is canon... And then saying "Ooo it's a MULTI-VERSE" is just putting shit in a nice package. What it is, is simply - a mess, thats all. It was caused by Fox being opportunists, and jumping on whatever works in the moment,  instead of calculating things, the way they did with Star Wars. And I would argue that Lucasfilm and Disney were responsible for that stuff.
    Has anyone considered that maybe Blomkamps film will only undo Alien 3 or that it will ONLY remake Alien 3 and Ripley and Hicks will be prisoners at the end so Alien Ressurection is still canon? See? They can do that now. What I mean to illustrate is there is no turning back from the mess they've made. They can just do whatever and if this retcon thing is the way it is, they can just do whatever next kind of installment will generate the most profit at any given time. Include Predtors in Alien 6! Why not? We can just ignore it for the next one as soon as it isnt profitable again and then start from two movies ago or, or, or. Options are wide open from here. Multiverse? Please. A turd by any other name is still a turd. James Cameron was right Avp destroyed the integrity of the franchise. David Giler was also right, A:R ruined the validity of the franchise. But they wont fix it, because they found a way around that risk. And they are applauding themselves for it because it worked out from a business sense. The cards were played well. Now they have this massive tent-pole of two films coming out that everyone will see. Thats all they need to worry about. They f**ked it up and dont intend to fix it because once you make this kinda mess and havent lost the profits, you have opened up all options to capitalize on whatever new idea will sell. It's a resounding success that is working in their favor. Why would they fix it? Why close doors that are only flooding the house with money?

    Amen!
  12. CainsSon
    Multiverse? Please. A turd by any other name is still a turd.

    Preach, brotha!!!  :D

    I also want to add that it is wrong to be angry at Sigourney Weaver for this. In fact, its her involvement in conjunction with Blomkamp and the sucess of Prometheus that is getying the film greenlit. She realizes if she doesnt take whatever angle is being pitched that will get off the ground - the role her life's work will be remembered for, will always end poorly.... I think its smart of her to jump at the opportunity to do something with it.
    In that way, she is largely the one who actually wants to fix it. I personally dont think Blomkamp at this stage is out to fix it. He is just out to make the fan-wank he never got before. I think it will be Sigourney and Ridley Scotts influence that steer it jn the right direction.
    The best thing that could possibly happen now? Fox or Scott Free or Weaver ask for story input from Cameron.
  13. CainsSon
    The whole thing is a joke. On the one hand you can easily say AVP is only canon to the Predator series, for instance, but this business of subdividing things and saying for instance that Promtheus through Blomkamp's film is the core story or just alien thru a:r is another or alien thru blomkamp or avp through a:r is canon... And then saying "Ooo it's a MULTI-VERSE" is just putting shit in a nice package. What it is, is simply - a mess, thats all. It was caused by Fox being opportunists, and jumping on whatever works in the moment,  instead of calculating things, the way they did with Star Wars. And I would argue that Lucasfilm and Disney were responsible for that stuff.
    Has anyone considered that maybe Blomkamps film will only undo Alien 3 or that it will ONLY remake Alien 3 and Ripley and Hicks will be prisoners at the end so Alien Ressurection is still canon? See? They can do that now. What I mean to illustrate is there is no turning back from the mess they've made. They can just do whatever and if this retcon thing is the way it is, they can just do whatever next kind of installment will generate the most profit at any given time. Include Predtors in Alien 6! Why not? We can just ignore it for the next one as soon as it isnt profitable again and then start from two movies ago or, or, or. Options are wide open from here. Multiverse? Please. A turd by any other name is still a turd. James Cameron was right Avp destroyed the integrity of the franchise. David Giler was also right, A:R ruined the validity of the franchise. But they wont fix it, because they found a way around that risk. And they are applauding themselves for it because it worked out from a business sense. The cards were played well. Now they have this massive tent-pole of two films coming out that everyone will see. Thats all they need to worry about. They f**ked it up and dont intend to fix it because once you make this kinda mess and havent lost the profits, you have opened up all options to capitalize on whatever new idea will sell. It's a resounding success that is working in their favor. Why would they fix it? Why close doors that are only flooding the house with money?
  14. Corporal Hicks
    I own the Agent 9 fan edit on DVD which has the movie open with this, replacing the Engineer drinking on the waterfall.

    I would be very curious to see that someday.  Is the policy of this website such that I can't request hints on where to find it?  Anyone?

    By all means. We support fan edits.
    Blomkamp ever tweet you back?

    Afraid not. He hasn't replied to any of my Tweets so far actually.  :(
  15. T Dog
    I own the Agent 9 fan edit on DVD which has the movie open with this, replacing the Engineer drinking on the waterfall.

    I would be very curious to see that someday.  Is the policy of this website such that I can't request hints on where to find it?  Anyone?

    By all means. We support fan edits.
    Blomkamp ever tweet you back?
  16. T Dog
    http://i60.tinypic.com/nbsowy.png

    Makes me suspect that the "Prometheus 2 starts filming in January" thing is just another rumor.

    being held up by Predator 4 no doubt
    Imagine they actually bring back their AVP shared universe and make it canon? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    http://cherrybombed.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/beth-ditto-just-saw-a-homophobe.jpg
  17. T Dog
    http://i60.tinypic.com/nbsowy.png

    Makes me suspect that the "Prometheus 2 starts filming in January" thing is just another rumor.

    Well it was stated as a start date in a reputable magazine when they were interviewing Ridley so it's assumed it came straight from him.

    Only other scenario I can think of is that Blomkamp will be doing both movies or combining the ideas into one big story which I'd be totally fine with.
  18. hfeldhaus
    Hopefully this delay will give Blomkamp time to realise he should hire someone to write Alien 5 for him. And realise it would be better if he cast aside Ripley and Hicks to create an original film.

    Prometheus 2 should have been put into production atleast a year ago. The first built up a lot of good faith but that's diminished for me.
  19. XenoHunter99
    This has nothing to do with Giger. What I'm saying is that the designers who worked on Prometheus actually told Ridley to his face that it would be a bad idea to change the original Space Jockey design because it was so good. Ridley insisted they change it the generic tall man design that we got.

    Those artists that worked on Prometheus, those guys didn't matter. Sorry, but they didn't. Their opinions carried no weight at all. They were hired to do what Ridley Scott told them to do. Scott had no reason to do anything they said. And I doubt even Giger's presence would have changed the outcome.

    No he doesn't HAVE to take their suggestions on board but he might think twice when A LOT of them say something is a bad idea.
    Scott's last batch of films would be much much better if he didn't rush through the productions shitting out these line production movies.

    Yes, it makes sense to think that; but Hollywood people may not be that reasonable. I think Scott's mind was made up by that point. As for his other movies, I suppose he's making the movies he wants to make, and maybe he's working faster because he's aware of his own mortality.
  20. T Dog
    This has nothing to do with Giger. What I'm saying is that the designers who worked on Prometheus actually told Ridley to his face that it would be a bad idea to change the original Space Jockey design because it was so good. Ridley insisted they change it the generic tall man design that we got.

    Those artists that worked on Prometheus, those guys didn't matter. Sorry, but they didn't. Their opinions carried no weight at all. They were hired to do what Ridley Scott told them to do. Scott had no reason to do anything they said. And I doubt even Giger's presence would have changed the outcome.

    No he doesn't HAVE to take their suggestions on board but he might think twice when A LOT of them say something is a bad idea.
    Scott's last batch of films would be much much better if he didn't rush through the productions shitting out these line production movies.
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