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Prometheus “Paradise” Scene Preview

Blu-ray.com forum user CRS who previous posted several preview images from the Prometheus Bluray menu, has now kindly provided us with an exclusive description of the alternate scene for Prometheus called “Paradise”. This scene will be featured in the upcoming Blu-ray release of the film and lasts for 5:20 minutes. Read below to find CRS comments on the scene:

This extended scene reveals new information about the engineer homeworld as well as some alternate dialogue between Shaw and David. Note that one of Ridley Scott’s original titles for the film was Paradise and it was even maintained as a cover title for secrecy during production.

It’s basically Shaw and David talking while she gets back on her feet and heads to the Juggernaut and David (his head on the ground). The dialogue alternates/extends somewhat from the film. The scene ends with Shaw putting David’s head in a bag and leaving the Juggernaut



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  1. RagingDragon
    I believe that would be applicable as being "surprise". No way in hell he feels any form of pain... and I mean why would they program that?
    Did everybody just miss the entire dialogue exchange between David and Holloway about why he puts on the helmet?
    Good point. It was sensory overload from having his head ripped off. In the extended scene he is even apologizing to weyland as his head hits the floor. The same thing happens to a lobster while being boiled alive. The lobster panics not due to pain but due to the fact that it is being boiled alive.
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    Thank you, it makes much more sense that a lobster would have the ability to rationalize what's happening to it and panic, a much more advanced response, than react to the most basic of all nervous impulses, which would be pain.

    Organisms without pain don't last very long, as "pain" is data that a nervous system sends to the brain about system damage.  There's a rare genetic disease in humans called CIPA (congenital insensitivity to pain with anhidrosis) in which the development of the small nerve fibers which transmit pain messages is disrupted, and pain doesn't register as normal, including temperature variations.  This also leads to the body not activating certain pain-based measures, such as sweating.  This isn't a good thing.

    Take it from Terminator when it said "the data may be called pain."  It's just data, and any functional android would require it to understand the limits of its own systems, though realistically an artificial person's pain threshold would be much different than ours.  Any reaction to this pain other than a defensive response would be clever programming to create empathy.

    Lobsters, sweet Christ.
  2. whiterabbit
    I believe that would be applicable as being "surprise". No way in hell he feels any form of pain... and I mean why would they program that?
    Did everybody just miss the entire dialogue exchange between David and Holloway about why he puts on the helmet?
    Good point. It was sensory overload from having his head ripped off. In the extended scene he is even apologizing to weyland as his head hits the floor. The same thing happens to a lobster while being boiled alive. The lobster panics not due to pain but due to the fact that it is being boiled alive.
  3. Xenomorphine
    I believe that would be applicable as being "surprise". No way in hell he feels any form of pain... and I mean why would they program that?

    Because Ridley Scott, that's why.

    There's a lot about David 8 which doesn't make much sense to design into what amounts to a manual labour device.

    Pain is a useful device for not hurting oneself pointlessly. I can relate David to Roy Batty, who ultimately needed pain to keep him going to the last moment of his life.

    That's for organic beings, not machines. All those require is a programmed directive. They follow rules a lot more literally. :)

    Even robots would have receptors that would tell them that something is wrong, or they need maintenance of some sort. A receptor that's programmed to be similar to the pain humans experience makes complete engineering sense,

    Actual pain is different to just an self-diagnostics identification of malfunction. It's also a lot more difficult to simulate, one would imagine, which begs the question of why they'd even attempt to do such a thing in the first place.
  4. ThisBethesdaSea
    Even robots would have receptors that would tell them that something is wrong, or they need maintenance of some sort. A receptor that's programmed to be similar to the pain humans experience makes complete engineering sense,
  5. szkoki
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    There is simply no need and, realistically, no way to replicate the feeling of pain in a non-living organism.

    True - didn't stop Bishop writhing in synthetic pain when the Queen Bishkebabbed him, though.


    but remember what he said in alien3 before Ripley turned him off? "my leg hurts.........it hurts please turn me off" how about that?  ;D

    its not a significant thing just trying to mess with ya
  6. SM
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    There is simply no need and, realistically, no way to replicate the feeling of pain in a non-living organism.

    True - didn't stop Bishop writhing in synthetic pain when the Queen Bishkebabbed him, though.

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    The mere fact that David even resembles a human at all is to make other humans feel more comfortable around him. 

    A completely adequate reason to shove a head in a bag rather than carry it by the hair.
  7. Ballzanya
    There was never any need for Shaw to put David's head in a duffle bag.  The thing cannot feel as it is merely a machine.  She could've just as easily grabbed him by the hair and carried him around like that.

    Looks pretty pained when he get's his head yanked off.
    I believe that would be applicable as being "surprise". No way in hell he feels any form of pain... and I mean why would they program that?

    Bishop clearly gave off an anguished groan as the queen's tail eviscerated him in "Aliens". I'd assume that when trying to create artificial intelligent, life that the idea is to duplicate any an all aspects of human experience as possible. The idea being, the more indistinguishable, the more you've succeeded. (Blade Runner's replicants clearly operate under this assumption)
  8. Gash
    True I guess, but despite everything he's done I think she has a regard for him. If Holloway had survived to the end, yeah I can see him kicking David's head about.
  9. Ash 937
    Not buying it.  There is simply no need and, realistically, no way to replicate the feeling of pain in a non-living organism.  The mere fact that David even resembles a human at all is to make other humans feel more comfortable around him.  This is a fact that even he admitted.  Of course, when something looks human and can appear to feel based on facial expressions, there is no doubt that it can create confusion.  Shaw could've just a easily kicked his head around like a soccer ball and it would've made no difference.
  10. Gash
    Pain is a useful device for not hurting oneself pointlessly. I can relate David to Roy Batty, who ultimately needed pain to keep him going to the last moment of his life.
  11. Nightmare Asylum
    There was never any need for Shaw to put David's head in a duffle bag.  The thing cannot feel as it is merely a machine.  She could've just as easily grabbed him by the hair and carried him around like that.

    Looks pretty pained when he get's his head yanked off.
    I believe that would be applicable as being "surprise". No way in hell he feels any form of pain... and I mean why would they program that?

    More human than human, that's their motto ;)
  12. Space Sweeper
    There was never any need for Shaw to put David's head in a duffle bag.  The thing cannot feel as it is merely a machine.  She could've just as easily grabbed him by the hair and carried him around like that.

    Looks pretty pained when he get's his head yanked off.
    I believe that would be applicable as being "surprise". No way in hell he feels any form of pain... and I mean why would they program that?
  13. Ash 937
    There was never any need for Shaw to put David's head in a duffle bag.  The thing cannot feel as it is merely a machine.  She could've just as easily grabbed him by the hair and carried him around like that. 
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