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Alien Covenant Post Premiere Reactions

Alien Covenant had its premiere in London’s Leicester Square last night and despite some technical difficulties with the live stream, we managed to see some of the stars hit the green carpet. In attendance was Ridley Scott joined by many Alien Covenant actors including Michael Fassbender, Katherine Waterstone, Billy Crudip and Danny McBride.

 Alien Covenant Post Premiere Reactions

Ridley Scott

Here’s a select few tweets from fans and journalists who were lucky enough to see Alien Covenant last night. From what I’m hearing the vibes are generally quite positive; people are finding it scarier than Prometheus; the cast and characters are good but the film isn’t without its problems. Particularly regarding the Alien mythos and what was already established in Alien and Aliens.

Quint from Aint It Cool News:

Paul Shirey, editor at JoBlos.com

Curtis Moldrich, an senior writer, at Alphr.com:

And of course our own Aaron Percival was at the premiere last night and saw the movie. You can see his initial reactions below:

The official review embargo for Alien Covenant ends at 8:45PM PST on Saturday so that’s about 4:45AM Sunday UK time. Aaron will have his official review published shortly thereafter. Alien Covenant will hit UK theatres on May 12th while Americans have to wait a week until May 19th.

Keep an eye out on Alien vs Predator Galaxy on Sunday morning as we will have our roundup of all the web’s Alien Covenant reviews as well as our own review.



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  1. Corporal Hicks
    Runner, I appreciate you may have your own theories but stop pushing them on people, especially when they've demonstrated they're not interested.

    Also I've locked this thread. The review thread is now op n with actual information about the film.
  2. Alien Runner
    Alien Runner uses deductive reasoning to reach theories and conclusions.

    The Prometheus movie shows us that the black goo deconstructs DNA structure to create new life.

    David drops black goo on Engineers.

    What happened when Fifield ingested the black goo? He turned into a humanoid alien looking creature.

    The black goo reverse engineered Fifield Human's DNA into an alien creature.

    Guess what? The black goo does the same with the Engineer. Well, in the case of the intro in Prometheus, the Engineer regressed into a primitive human being after ingesting the black goo. David probably accelerated the regression process from Engineer to Human to XENOMORPH. He saw the Mural. He realized that the Engineers were worshiping their ancient ancestor, the Ultramorph.

    It all comes full circle. David is playing god. He is going to be god by surpassing the Engineers and in order to do that, he needs their power. But how can he control them? The only way is to regress them into their primitive state, which are the Xenomorphs. With that under his control, he can destroy Humanity and carry out the Will of Engineers.

    Talking about yourself in the third person is quite annoying and arrogant, but let's get to the subject at hand, shall we?
    First of all, the black goo MO is all over the place, starting with the worms, them Fifield, then Holloway/Shaw 'spawn', then finally the Engineers in Paradise... The latter were petrified, they did not become  bigger (like the worms) nor more distorted and feral like Fifield... They were just killed instantly, as their statuesque bodies attest... They did not become distorted monsters tearing eachother out nor increased in size... They were just killed instantly... You do not die on your feet when you are killed, you fall and die... These Engineers bodies were petrified while standing, crawling... Fifield fell on the black goo and did not petrify... Ridley is changing the goo's properties as a deus ex machina ploy, as a convenient narrative placeholder...

    To create, one must first destroy. The Engineers might've been petrified but guess what? Their genetic material has been deconstructed and someone like David can reconstruct them into the Alien.
  3. YutaniDitch
    Alien Runner uses deductive reasoning to reach theories and conclusions.

    The Prometheus movie shows us that the black goo deconstructs DNA structure to create new life.

    David drops black goo on Engineers.

    What happened when Fifield ingested the black goo? He turned into a humanoid alien looking creature.

    The black goo reverse engineered Fifield Human's DNA into an alien creature.

    Guess what? The black goo does the same with the Engineer. Well, in the case of the intro in Prometheus, the Engineer regressed into a primitive human being after ingesting the black goo. David probably accelerated the regression process from Engineer to Human to XENOMORPH. He saw the Mural. He realized that the Engineers were worshiping their ancient ancestor, the Ultramorph.

    It all comes full circle. David is playing god. He is going to be god by surpassing the Engineers and in order to do that, he needs their power. But how can he control them? The only way is to regress them into their primitive state, which are the Xenomorphs. With that under his control, he can destroy Humanity and carry out the Will of Engineers.

    Talking about yourself in the third person is quite annoying and arrogant, but let's get to the subject at hand, shall we?
    First of all, the black goo MO is all over the place, starting with the worms, them Fifield, then Holloway/Shaw 'spawn', then finally the Engineers in Paradise... The latter were petrified, they did not become  bigger (like the worms) nor more distorted and feral like Fifield... They were just killed instantly, as their statuesque bodies attest... They did not become distorted monsters tearing eachother out nor increased in size... They were just killed instantly... You do not die on your feet when you are killed, you fall and die... These Engineers bodies were petrified while standing, crawling... Fifield fell on the black goo and did not petrify... Ridley keeps changing the goo's properties as a deus ex machina ploy, as a convenient narrative placeholder... 
  4. Alien Runner
    David created the Alien, man. Time to give up.   :(

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    Because he still has to perfect it, most likely.

    And Alien Runner, you can't possibly know all that, it's not true.

    Alien Runner uses deductive reasoning to reach theories and conclusions.

    The Prometheus movie shows us that the black goo deconstructs DNA structure to create new life.

    David drops black goo on Engineers.

    What happened when Fifield ingested the black goo? He turned into a humanoid alien looking creature.

    The black goo reverse engineered Fifield Human's DNA into an alien creature.

    Guess what? The black goo does the same with the Engineer. Well, in the case of the intro in Prometheus, the Engineer regressed into a primitive human being after ingesting the black goo. David probably accelerated the regression process from Engineer to Human to XENOMORPH. He saw the Mural. He realized that the Engineers were worshiping their ancient ancestor, the Ultramorph.
    Yeah yeah, whatever.

    You know, it actually sounds better than what we really got. But it's still nonsense.

    Its not nonsense. Its not better that what u got. Its what you're GONNA GET.

    http://i.imgur.com/QATkS3J.jpg

    ^ check David's workshop out. Look at the poster with 3 heads. Its literally an Engineer devolving into a Xenomorph.

    Remember Fifield turning into an Alien after the black goo?

    David turns the Engineer into the xenomorph with the black goo here as well. :)

    The black goo turns organic life into ALIENS.


  5. gantarat
    The crew just called them Aliens. Protomorph is a name made up by Scified. As far as the people making the film were concerned, it was just Neomorphs and Aliens.

    I hear them lot are usually incorrent about stuff


    Who know maybe The Art and Making of Alien: Covenant book reveal "those" thing name.
    http://i.imgur.com/UW1Tqer.jpg

    or prequel book show  that he david find recipe/information and he try to re-create its

    Yeah, I could use an official name so I can put a proper  name on its wiki page, so far I have had to dub it "Xenomorph (Covenant)" :laugh:

    I too hope that he just merely found information and recreated something that already existed, thankfully,
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  6. Evanus
    David created the Alien, man. Time to give up.   :(

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    Because he still has to perfect it, most likely.

    And Alien Runner, you can't possibly know all that, it's not true.

    Alien Runner uses deductive reasoning to reach theories and conclusions.

    The Prometheus movie shows us that the black goo deconstructs DNA structure to create new life.

    David drops black goo on Engineers.

    What happened when Fifield ingested the black goo? He turned into a humanoid alien looking creature.

    The black goo reverse engineered Fifield Human's DNA into an alien creature.

    Guess what? The black goo does the same with the Engineer. Well, in the case of the intro in Prometheus, the Engineer regressed into a primitive human being after ingesting the black goo. David probably accelerated the regression process from Engineer to Human to XENOMORPH. He saw the Mural. He realized that the Engineers were worshiping their ancient ancestor, the Ultramorph.
    Yeah yeah, whatever.

    You know, it actually sounds better than what we really got. But it's still nonsense.
  7. Alien Runner
    David created the Alien, man. Time to give up.   :(

    Never... Unless they remake the ALIEN movie, it is chronologically impossible, not to mention spitting in the face of all Alien fans... David created THESE Aliens AT BEST and even that would not be credible unless David knew where to look... Accidentally bumping into them would be farfetched and lazy writing... Which David already is... Having an unrealistically emotional android recreating Xenos and creating all this mess is nothing BUT lazy writing... It destroys the uniqueness of the Xeno, and if watched chronologically, the prequels spit on everything of the original quatrilogy... Prequels are supposed to show the genesis of later events, not rewrite them... That is why it is far more difficult to write prequels than sequels... Prequels need to take EVERYTHING that happened into consideration and not digress nor diverge from it creatively... in a sense, it is like translating, you need to stick to the original and not be creative about it... Ridley just went creatively overboard and the original stories (NOT the movies, mind you) suffer from it because logically, the prequels set in motion things that eventually happened in the originals, which means that STORY-WISE, later events and their genesis will ultimately clash with what came first (prequels)... Prequels can be messy, but Ridley outdid himself in these... If only David just had stumbled upon these eggs and things would have been so much different...😁🤔

    They're not remaking the alien movie and the prequels will lead to the original Alien movie so guess what? David will be an integral part of the xeno origin whether you like it not. If you think otherwise that A:C aliens are not the xenos from ALIEN then Ridley must be wasting his damn time making A:C because it does not lead to the creation of the xeno...
  8. YutaniDitch
    David created the Alien, man. Time to give up.   :(

    Never... Unless they remake the ALIEN movie, it is chronologically impossible, not to mention spitting in the face of all Alien fans... David created THESE Aliens AT BEST and even that would not be credible unless David knew where to look... Accidentally bumping into them would be farfetched and lazy writing... Which David already is... Having an unrealistically emotional android recreating Xenos and creating all this mess is nothing BUT lazy writing... It destroys the uniqueness of the Xeno, and if watched chronologically, the prequels spit on everything of the original quatrilogy... Prequels are supposed to show the genesis of later events, not rewrite them... That is why it is far more difficult to write prequels than sequels... Prequels need to take EVERYTHING that happened into consideration and not digress nor diverge from it creatively... in a sense, it is like translating, you need to stick to the original and not be creative about it... Ridley just went creatively overboard and the original stories (NOT the movies, mind you) suffer from it because logically, the prequels set in motion things that eventually happened in the originals, which means that STORY-WISE, later events and their genesis will ultimately clash with what came first (prequels)... Prequels can be messy, but Ridley outdid himself in these... If only David just had stumbled upon these eggs and things would have been so much different...😁🤔
  9. Alien Runner
    David created the Alien, man. Time to give up.   :(

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    Because he still has to perfect it, most likely.

    And Alien Runner, you can't possibly know all that, it's not true.

    Alien Runner uses deductive reasoning to reach theories and conclusions.

    The Prometheus movie shows us that the black goo deconstructs DNA structure to create new life.

    David drops black goo on Engineers.

    What happened when Fifield ingested the black goo? He turned into a humanoid alien looking creature.

    The black goo reverse engineered Fifield Human's DNA into an alien creature.

    Guess what? The black goo does the same with the Engineer. Well, in the case of the intro in Prometheus, the Engineer regressed into a primitive human being after ingesting the black goo. David probably accelerated the regression process from Engineer to Human to XENOMORPH. He saw the Mural. He realized that the Engineers were worshiping their ancient ancestor, the Ultramorph.

    It all comes full circle. David is playing god. He is going to be god by surpassing the Engineers and in order to do that, he needs their power. But how can he control them? The only way is to regress them into their primitive state, which are the Xenomorphs. With that under his control, he can destroy Humanity and carry out the Will of Engineers.
  10. Infected
    The simple explanation could come if they told us the engineer/jockey on LV-426 was indeed 2000 years old.

    If Aliens is cannon then the colonist that went into the derelict came back with the facehugger on his face, and gave birth to the xeno with the tubes, is most likely that David never invented them, he just recreates, following an old recipe.

  11. Alien Runner
    You're all wrong.

    The Xenomorph is an ancient ancestor of the Engineers. David reverse engineers the Engineer's DNA with the black goo. ;) The black goo breaks DNA structure to make new ones. The Engineers' DNA structure broke apart and it was redesigned by David to become the Xenomorph. This is why there was a Xeno mural in the temple of Prometheus. The Engineers were paying tribute to their ancient ancestor. David knew all of this when he was in the Temple and when he was left alone in the ship. He wanted to devolve the Engineers but for what reason? Alien Runner believes he wants to control the Engineer's power and in order to do that, he has to devolve them to their primal state. Once he does, he'll use the Xenos as a weapon to destroy Earth as planned by the Engineers originally. ;)
  12. Evanus
    Unless David went back in time, there is no way he created the Xenomorphs... He could only have recreated them if he had had a blueprint... Also, the eggs would require hosts AND going back even further, why 'EGGS'...? We know there has to be a Queen for eggs to exist (and no, eggmorphing has never been canonical, just a fan theory, never truly been addressed in the post-ALIEN movies, actually being flatout denied with the Queen in ALIENS and the  superfacehugger in ALIEN3...) So, did David have a Queen to produce those eggs...? This is where the sequels and prequels create a mess of something that was simple and straightforward in ALIEN: the egg contained a facehugger that would deposit an embryo inside a host, then the embryo would gain some of the DNA traits of the host and after maturing, it would burst through the host's ribcage... the Queen was added later to be the one who laid those eggs, which made sense... Species do not exist in a vaccum, always being the natural evolution of a more primitive one... The issue I have with PROMETHEUS is that it flatout states that the Xenomorph is just a manifestation of a virus depending on that species it infects or it was spawned from... Clearly, all the xenos we saw from ALIEN onward were the result of the eggs from the Derelict... The Trilobite and the Deacon were not... Also, the egg-laying Queen who generated those eggs  in the Derelict's cargo hold was likely the result of a combined DNA of an undisclosed creature with either the black goo or the spores, according to the Deacon's lifecycle in PROMETHEUS... The Neomorph in AC comes from a spore infecting a human host, the Xeno from a facehugger on a human host... I gather the biomech look of the Xeno in ALIEN would have to be already a trait of the Queen who laid the Derelict eggs in the first place... otherwise, they would look like the Xeno in AC... This is scientifically very confusing but equally fascinating....
    David created the Alien, man. Time to give up.   :(
  13. YutaniDitch
    Unless David went back in time, there is no way he CREATED the Xenomorphs... He could ONLY have RECREATEDthem if he had had a blueprint... Also, the eggs would require hosts AND going back even further, why 'EGGS'...? We know there has to be a Queen for eggs to exist (and no, eggmorphing has never been canonical, just a fan theory, never truly been addressed in the post-ALIEN movies, actually being flatout denied with the Queen in ALIENS and the  superfacehugger in ALIEN3...) So, did David have a Queen to produce those eggs...? This is where the sequels and prequels create a mess of something that was simple and straightforward in ALIEN: the egg contained a facehugger that would deposit an embryo inside a host, then the embryo would gain some of the DNA traits of the host and after maturing, it would burst through the host's ribcage... the Queen was added later to be the one who laid those eggs, which made sense... Species do not exist in a vaccum, always being the natural evolution of a more primitive one... The issue I have with PROMETHEUS is that it flatout states that the Xenomorph is just a manifestation of a virus depending on that species it infects or it was spawned from... Clearly, all the xenos we saw from ALIEN onward were the result of the eggs from the Derelict... The Trilobite and the Deacon were not... Also, the egg-laying Queen who generated those eggs  in the Derelict's cargo hold was likely the result of a combined DNA of an undisclosed creature with either the black goo or the spores, according to the Deacon's lifecycle in PROMETHEUS... The Neomorph in AC comes from a spore infecting a human host, the Xeno from a facehugger on a human host... I gather the biomech look of the Xeno in ALIEN would have to be already a trait of the Queen who laid the Derelict eggs in the first place... otherwise, they would look like the Xeno in AC... This is scientifically very confusing but equally fascinating....
  14. The Cruentus
    The crew just called them Aliens. Protomorph is a name made up by Scified. As far as the people making the film were concerned, it was just Neomorphs and Aliens.

    I hear them lot are usually incorrent about stuff


    Who know maybe The Art and Making of Alien: Covenant book reveal "those" thing name.
    http://i.imgur.com/UW1Tqer.jpg

    or prequel book show  that he david find recipe/information and he try to re-create its

    Yeah, I could use an official name so I can put a proper  name on its wiki page, so far I have had to dub it "Xenomorph (Covenant)" :laugh:

    I too hope that he just merely found information and recreated something that already existed, thankfully,
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  15. gantarat

    Just read your review
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    Who know maybe The Art and Making of Alien: Covenant book reveal "those" thing name.
    http://i.imgur.com/UW1Tqer.jpg

    or prequel book show  that he david find recipe/information and he try to re-create its
  16. The Cruentus
    Sometimes simple is better, my gripe is not so much David created them (though I do take issue with that, at least concering the original Xenos) as that if he created him, it would seem to clash with the possibilty that Xenos already existed i.e Derelict on LV-246.

  17. Ingwar
    The backstory of the alien being an ancient creature really is not very interesting.  Of all the ways could go, they went the best, by making it an ancient creature (the mural) but also a modern one to tie it into the events of the film.  Because the main selling point is to see the origin of the alien.

    Origin of the Alien is all well and good, such a story can be told without resorting to a simple android having to create the most deadliest species ever.

    Why not? I find that ironical about David creating them (if it's true of course). Besides, Aliens being an ancient species is also simple and cliche.
  18. The Cruentus

    Just read your review
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  19. Alien Runner
    lol at you guys still denying the Truth about the origin... well you need not worry for Alien Runner has a Theory... that will blow your mind. The Origin of the Xeno has been answered. The answer is right in front of us or should Alien Runner say, way behind of us... ;)

    Didn't Hicks warn you about trolling?  :P

    The backstory of the alien being an ancient creature really is not very interesting.  Of all the ways could go, they went the best, by making it an ancient creature (the mural) but also a modern one to tie it into the events of the film.  Because the main selling point is to see the origin of the alien.

    Origin of the Alien is all well and good, such a story can be told without resorting to a simple android having to create the most deadliest species ever.

    Read Alien Runner's theory on origin of xeno. David is not the creator.
  20. The Cruentus
    lol at you guys still denying the Truth about the origin... well you need not worry for Alien Runner has a Theory... that will blow your mind. The Origin of the Xeno has been answered. The answer is right in front of us or should Alien Runner say, way behind of us... ;)

    Didn't Hicks warn you about trolling?  :P

    The backstory of the alien being an ancient creature really is not very interesting.  Of all the ways could go, they went the best, by making it an ancient creature (the mural) but also a modern one to tie it into the events of the film.  Because the main selling point is to see the origin of the alien.

    Origin of the Alien is all well and good, such a story can be told without resorting to a simple android having to create the most deadliest species ever.
  21. Scorpio
    The backstory of the alien being an ancient creature really is not very interesting.  Of all the ways could go, they went the best, by making it an ancient creature (the mural) but also a modern one to tie it into the events of the film.  Because the main selling point is to see the origin of the alien.
  22. Alien Runner
    lol at you guys still denying the Truth about the origin... well you need not worry for Alien Runner has a Theory... that will blow your mind. The Origin of the Xeno has been answered. The answer is right in front of us or should Alien Runner say, way behind of us... ;)
  23. The Cruentus
    The film doesn't imply that. They're the Alien. They just look different. We know that the films are going to eventually leave into the biomechanical aspects entering their design but they're not a completely different creature at all. It's just how the Runner is different, how the Auriga Aliens are different.

    I f**king hate those Protomorph rumours.

    Just read your review
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    What has happened to Ridley?
  24. Clowndog
    Well as for
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    It's clearly done for thematic reasons but there could be an actual in universe reason, not saying this is true or I like the idea but just for theory crafting purposes.

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  25. gantarat

    The film doesn't imply that. They're the Alien. They just look different. We know that the films are going to eventually leave into the biomechanical aspects entering their design but they're not a completely different creature at all. It's just how the Runner is different, how the Auriga Aliens are different.

    I f**king hate those Protomorph rumours.

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    I couldn't say the same
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  26. Corporal Hicks
    Given that this is a horror-sci-fi film and technically the EIGHTH in an inconsistent franchise, we can't really expect uniformly great reviews. The genre in general gets mixed reaction and the stink of lesser movies surely follows this one around.

    Eight? You mean SIXTH, right? AVP is a separate franchise from the Alien franchise. Unfortunately the stink from the AVP movies have managed to stick to the Alien movies somehow. Hopefully there won't be anymore AVP movies for a long time to come and we can all hope that A:C is as good as it seems like. Hopefully A:C and its sequels will wash away the AVP reek, and by that time A3 and A:R will have ten more years or so to mature in the minds of their former haters as they might, by that time, be ready to digest them both, or at least A3.



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    Well, according to Ridley Scott, we have not yet arrived to the point of the true,unhinged Xeno. I imagine that Xeno becomes AWAKENED in the next movie titled 'Awakening'. Just a thought. Ridley not making that clear through the film and rather simply being something stated during an interview might have been an oversight. I won't see the film until the 18th so I will see if any if this makes sense!

    Judge from Hicks review.

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    The film doesn't imply that. They're the Alien. They just look different. We know that the films are going to eventually leave into the biomechanical aspects entering their design but they're not a completely different creature at all. It's just how the Runner is different, how the Auriga Aliens are different.

    I f**king hate those Protomorph rumours.
  27. The Cruentus
    Given that this is a horror-sci-fi film and technically the EIGHTH in an inconsistent franchise, we can't really expect uniformly great reviews. The genre in general gets mixed reaction and the stink of lesser movies surely follows this one around.

    Eight? You mean SIXTH, right? AVP is a separate franchise from the Alien franchise. Unfortunately the stink from the AVP movies have managed to stick to the Alien movies somehow. Hopefully there won't be anymore AVP movies for a long time to come and we can all hope that A:C is as good as it seems like. Hopefully A:C and its sequels will wash away the AVP reek, and by that time A3 and A:R will have ten more years or so to mature in the minds of their former haters as they might, by that time, be ready to digest them both, or at least A3.



    Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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    Well, according to Ridley Scott, we have not yet arrived to the point of the true,unhinged Xeno. I imagine that Xeno becomes AWAKENED in the next movie titled 'Awakening'. Just a thought. Ridley not making that clear through the film and rather simply being something stated during an interview might have been an oversight. I won't see the film until the 18th so I will see if any if this makes sense!

    Judge from Hicks review.

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  28. Gigeresque
    Given that this is a horror-sci-fi film and technically the EIGHTH in an inconsistent franchise, we can't really expect uniformly great reviews. The genre in general gets mixed reaction and the stink of lesser movies surely follows this one around.

    Eight? You mean SIXTH, right? AVP is a separate franchise from the Alien franchise. Unfortunately the stink from the AVP movies have managed to stick to the Alien movies somehow. Hopefully there won't be anymore AVP movies for a long time to come and we can all hope that A:C is as good as it seems like. Hopefully A:C and its sequels will wash away the AVP reek, and by that time A3 and A:R will have ten more years or so to mature in the minds of their former haters as they might, by that time, be ready to digest them both, or at least A3.



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    Well, according to Ridley Scott, we have not yet arrived to the point of the true,unhinged Xeno. I imagine that Xeno becomes AWAKENED in the next movie titled 'Awakening'. Just a thought. Ridley not making that clear through the film and rather simply being something stated during an interview might have been an oversight. I won't see the film until the 18th so I will see if any if this makes sense!

    Judge from Hicks review.

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    That's because they working their way up to what we will see in Alien.
  29. gantarat
    Given that this is a horror-sci-fi film and technically the EIGHTH in an inconsistent franchise, we can't really expect uniformly great reviews. The genre in general gets mixed reaction and the stink of lesser movies surely follows this one around.

    Eight? You mean SIXTH, right? AVP is a separate franchise from the Alien franchise. Unfortunately the stink from the AVP movies have managed to stick to the Alien movies somehow. Hopefully there won't be anymore AVP movies for a long time to come and we can all hope that A:C is as good as it seems like. Hopefully A:C and its sequels will wash away the AVP reek, and by that time A3 and A:R will have ten more years or so to mature in the minds of their former haters as they might, by that time, be ready to digest them both, or at least A3.



    Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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    Well, according to Ridley Scott, we have not yet arrived to the point of the true,unhinged Xeno. I imagine that Xeno becomes AWAKENED in the next movie titled 'Awakening'. Just a thought. Ridley not making that clear through the film and rather simply being something stated during an interview might have been an oversight. I won't see the film until the 18th so I will see if any if this makes sense!

    Judge from Hicks review.

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  30. Darth Vile
    7/10 means the movie sucks

    It usually means something is entertaining enough to rewatch, but maybe a little too generic or predictable to be considered a classic. A film like this should really be aiming for at least an 8/10.

    Have a feeling many of us will eventually be saying, "Yeah, it was fun, but..."

    Oooh, and not to forget - the Bambi Burster seems to be back.

    Not according to the Creature Supervisor I asked about that.

    7 out of 10 is Force Awakens, competent fan service with layers of nostalgia for non super fans including old actors appearing.
    9 out of 10 is Rogue One, new ideas layered into existing story with a different but similar vibe to the earlier films

    I would be happy with 7,8 or 9 but that's from an Alien fan who would say Alien 3 is a 7 and Resurection a 6. Of course Alien and Aliens are a 10
    Actually The Force Awakens is 3 out of 10. Rogue One a 5 out of 10... but yeah. 😊
  31. cucuchu
    Given that this is a horror-sci-fi film and technically the EIGHTH in an inconsistent franchise, we can't really expect uniformly great reviews. The genre in general gets mixed reaction and the stink of lesser movies surely follows this one around.

    Eight? You mean SIXTH, right? AVP is a separate franchise from the Alien franchise. Unfortunately the stink from the AVP movies have managed to stick to the Alien movies somehow. Hopefully there won't be anymore AVP movies for a long time to come and we can all hope that A:C is as good as it seems like. Hopefully A:C and its sequels will wash away the AVP reek, and by that time A3 and A:R will have ten more years or so to mature in the minds of their former haters as they might, by that time, be ready to digest them both, or at least A3.



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    Well, according to Ridley Scott, we have not yet arrived to the point of the true,unhinged Xeno. I imagine that Xeno becomes AWAKENED in the next movie titled 'Awakening'. Just a thought. Ridley not making that clear through the film and rather simply being something stated during an interview might have been an oversight. I won't see the film until the 18th so I will see if any if this makes sense!

  32. SpreadEagleBeagle
    Ah... It's just the pulse rifle, Ripley lovin' gang that can't get past 1986 complaining again. 

    *hand wave*  Just leave 'em back there, smouldering in last Century woes.  They're never going to be happy.

    Each new iteration of 'ALIEN 3' gets better each time it hits the home entertainment circuit.  That last BluRay version was the meat!.  As for classic..?  I can't tell you one other Sci Fi movie released in 1992 that even gets talked about any more.

    'ALIEN 3' had to fight to get the recognition it now deserves.  I'm all for it being recognised as a classic.  Earned its place, it has.

    -Windebieste.

    Spot on and well put - bravo! *sincere applause*
  33. gantarat
    Given that this is a horror-sci-fi film and technically the EIGHTH in an inconsistent franchise, we can't really expect uniformly great reviews. The genre in general gets mixed reaction and the stink of lesser movies surely follows this one around.

    Eight? You mean SIXTH, right? AVP is a separate franchise from the Alien franchise. Unfortunately the stink from the AVP movies have managed to stick to the Alien movies somehow. Hopefully there won't be anymore AVP movies for a long time to come and we can all hope that A:C is as good as it seems like. Hopefully A:C and its sequels will wash away the AVP reek, and by that time A3 and A:R will have ten more years or so to mature in the minds of their former haters as they might, by that time, be ready to digest them both, or at least A3.



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  34. Sway
    I think Alien 3 will be considered a classic a decade from now.

    I'm not sure if you are trying to be tongue-in-cheek with this comment, but people were saying the same thing a decade ago. It's not horrible, though, and should have ended Ripley's story IMHO. Oddly enough, ALIEN 3 contains THE MOST iconic single frame from the entire franchise though.

    Given that this is a horror-sci-fi film and technically the EIGHTH in an inconsistent franchise, we can't really expect uniformly great reviews. The genre in general gets mixed reaction and the stink of lesser movies surely follows this one around.

    This is spot-on. I have guesses as to where the scores are eventually going to settle, but right now I think it is easy to pick and choose reviews to fit your preconceived notions about how the film is going to pan out. The "this film is going to be awesome" crowd will get reviews to back up their thoughts and the "this film is going to suck" crowd will as well.


    I think for some it does end Ripley's story. Resurrection isn't even worth considering.

    Alien 3 was absolutely beautiful. The colors, the way it was shot. Interesting characters in a very beautiful interesting place. Even the story wasn't too bad. Maybe I'm biased because it happens to be the first one I saw in theaters.
  35. windebieste
    Ah... It's just the pulse rifle, Ripley lovin' gang that can't get past 1986 complaining again. 

    *hand wave*  Just leave 'em back there, smouldering in last Century woes.  They're never going to be happy.

    Each new iteration of 'ALIEN 3' gets better each time it hits the home entertainment circuit.  That last BluRay version was the meat!.  As for classic..?  I can't tell you one other Sci Fi movie released in 1992 that even gets talked about any more.

    'ALIEN 3' had to fight to get the recognition it now deserves.  I'm all for it being recognised as a classic.  Earned its place, it has.

    -Windebieste.
  36. rustyredraccoon
    I think Alien 3 will be considered a classic a decade from now.

    I'm not sure if you are trying to be tongue-in-cheek with this comment, but people were saying the same thing a decade ago. It's not horrible, though, and should have ended Ripley's story IMHO. Oddly enough, ALIEN 3 contains THE MOST iconic single frame from the entire franchise though.

    Given that this is a horror-sci-fi film and technically the EIGHTH in an inconsistent franchise, we can't really expect uniformly great reviews. The genre in general gets mixed reaction and the stink of lesser movies surely follows this one around.

    This is spot-on. I have guesses as to where the scores are eventually going to settle, but right now I think it is easy to pick and choose reviews to fit your preconceived notions about how the film is going to pan out. The "this film is going to be awesome" crowd will get reviews to back up their thoughts and the "this film is going to suck" crowd will as well.
  37. Dkwookie
    7/10 means the movie sucks

    It usually means something is entertaining enough to rewatch, but maybe a little too generic or predictable to be considered a classic. A film like this should really be aiming for at least an 8/10.

    Have a feeling many of us will eventually be saying, "Yeah, it was fun, but..."

    Oooh, and not to forget - the Bambi Burster seems to be back.

    Not according to the Creature Supervisor I asked about that.

    7 out of 10 is Force Awakens, competent fan service with layers of nostalgia for non super fans including old actors appearing.
    9 out of 10 is Rogue One, new ideas layered into existing story with a different but similar vibe to the earlier films

    I would be happy with 7,8 or 9 but that's from an Alien fan who would say Alien 3 is a 7 and Resurection a 6. Of course Alien and Aliens are a 10
  38. Xenomorphine
    7/10 means the movie sucks

    It usually means something is entertaining enough to rewatch, but maybe a little too generic or predictable to be considered a classic. A film like this should really be aiming for at least an 8/10.

    Have a feeling many of us will eventually be saying, "Yeah, it was fun, but..."

    Oooh, and not to forget - the Bambi Burster seems to be back.

    Not according to the Creature Supervisor I asked about that.
  39. Dkwookie
    It's so interesting how Ridley changes. Remember this quote:

    "If we're fortunate enough to make more 'Prometheus' films, you could make ten, and not link up with the Alien franchise, or you could do as Ridley's suggested and make two more," explained Michael Ellenberg, one of the executive producers on the film. "From the beginning, what Ridley was passionate about was not making a prequel that would tell you who Ellen Ripley's mom was, or how exactly that ship got there, that was never what he was interested in. He was interested in much larger questions about the nature of life itself, who we are, how we got here, and what he saw was a larger idea in the franchise that had never been explored: who would make such a horrible creature and why? And in looking at that creature, it came to look at the origins of ourselves."

    No different to other film makers sagas. George Lucas springs to mind with his Ewok/Wookie switch or his prequels. In the words of Lawrence (which David should have quoted) "nothing is written"
  40. BishopShouldGo
    It's so interesting how Ridley changes. Remember this quote:

    "If we're fortunate enough to make more 'Prometheus' films, you could make ten, and not link up with the Alien franchise, or you could do as Ridley's suggested and make two more," explained Michael Ellenberg, one of the executive producers on the film. "From the beginning, what Ridley was passionate about was not making a prequel that would tell you who Ellen Ripley's mom was, or how exactly that ship got there, that was never what he was interested in. He was interested in much larger questions about the nature of life itself, who we are, how we got here, and what he saw was a larger idea in the franchise that had never been explored: who would make such a horrible creature and why? And in looking at that creature, it came to look at the origins of ourselves."
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