We have just uploaded the 43rd episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download)! Our last episode of 2016 sees Xenomorphine, Omegamorph, RidgeTop, community guest HuDaFuk and I take a look back at 2004 and discuss Paul Anderson’s Alien vs. Predator.
The 43rd episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast sees the staff take a look back at Paul Anderson’s Alien vs. Predator.
We cast our memories back to 2004 to the first time we saw Alien vs. Predator and our initial opinions. We go through the good and the bad, taking a measured approach to the film. It’s a lengthy one, clocking in just under 3 hours so we go into it in quite some depth!
This episode is currently planned as the last episode of 2016 but we will be recording a new episode if the Alien: Covenant trailer drops this side of New Year! I would like to take the opportunity to thank all the staff and guests who have joined in on the podcast. I’d also like to thank everyone who has listened to our episodes and commented on them.
Make sure you stick with Alien vs. Predator Galaxy through 2017 for more coverage of Alien: Covenant, The Predator and Alien 5 and for another great year of Alien and Predator podcasting.
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Comics and the games were a hoot though!
I need to go and rewatch the film now. I still think I'll find it leaving me sour though.
I do think I would have much preferred it to be relocated to another planet. Not much would have had to change.
R rating.
Not set on Earth but still the pyramid angle.
Lengthen the gestation period.
I would also have ended differently. I would have Lex and Scar survive the Queen battle and then scar challenges Lex to a fight and have them end in combat. She wins. The other predators show respect and they leave her there. She sets up home.
Of course this would require lex to be a tougher character.
I think one big problem I have with it that I don't see mentioned a whole lot is that it's just a very bland movie to look at. It has a very drab, dreary colour palette. Grey/white ice (at night), grey concrete pyramid corridors, silver Predators, dark, silvery Aliens with not a lot to break it up. It just gets dull real fast. Even though I was never a fan of the whole pyramid concept I at east might have liked it better if it had been more interesting to look at.
It's technically a better/more competently made movie than AVPR or sure, but yeah........eh. As a few folks said on the podcast, I don't hate it, but I certainly don't love it either.
Also, that mural-type image up the top there is unintentionally hilarious!
"Whoever Wins........Faces John Travolta in the Finals!"
Originally, Dillon was supposed to be pulled into the lead by the Alien. I think him standing his ground sent the character out on a more dramatic note.
I still think the Predator lifting is both feasible in world and (although bungled slightly in the film) a neat dramatic entrance.
Quite. It's the first time in years a filmmaker had remembered that the ordinary Aliens are incredibly strong. I love Alien 3, but Dillon holding one off remains ridiculous. Just because we'd only seen a queen do it onscreen before, doesn't make it unfeasible that a standard Alien could do just that to a Predator.
...Remind me to never become a solicitor for the defence!
It's a profoundly stupid movie. Still not as dumb as AvPR.
Why do you think I said tall order?
An Alien walked onto a spear Lex was holding.
A part of me says, that might be a tall order. Heh.
The only thing that still really galls is the lack of understanding of the source it rips off. Broken Tusk teams up with Machiko out of fury at his wayward students and gratitude to the doctor. There's none of that in AVP, they just team up... I don't know, because? It takes the code of honour thing away a bit too much.
Anyway, it's miles better than its awful sequel, it tries harder to be faithful to the sources feel than Resurrection, it's less slavish to its precedents than Predators and it makes marginally more sense than Prometheus. I think it's earned a place at the table, even if it is in a high chair.
Its depth overall is about as thick as the paint, and most of the characters are non-entities.
Possibly the only thing AvP:R has over AvP is the environment doesn't have that fake feeling to it.
Unfortunately there is just too much bad for me to actually consider it a good film. Make a few changes and I could have forgiven all of its faults. Just giving the film a darker tone and changing it to take place in space/future would have helped me be more forgiving.
This always surprises me, because I feel like often times, I'm the only person in the world... who genuinely likes this movie. I mean years ago, I would say maybe six or even twelve years ago, if anyone came out and said they liked this movie... You'd be made a black sheep and get trolled the hell out of by a few people. Now it's like... more and more people are coming out saying they enjoy it for what it is, a creature-feature, or genuinely like it.
I seriously enjoyed rewatching this movie just now. It is truly worthy of a spot somewhere in the pantheon of Alien and Predator lore. I was amazed at just how similar it is to Prometheus, in so many ways.
https://twitter.com/murray_lothian/status/809411625337978880
I don't think it was a disrespectful comment, but it did seem to have some underlying subtext to it that makes it sound like he's getting something off his chest. Maybe FU was a strong word to use. I know he wasn't bashing the Strause Bros because in that same quote he talks about how he respects them.
Yeah, most of the sequels don't seem so bad in hindsight after a disappointing new film. Though I will say for myself even though I hated AvP at the time, I did think it was better than Resurrection.
Yeah, I wasn't a massive fan of the cast of the film, especially Lathan. She felt so flat to me. Lance is, of course, the exception.
Ha. As long as you're enjoying it.
Fun listen so far, even if I disagree with a lot or most of the praise.
I think the thread has more love for AvP than any other on the internet, ever
One thing is for sure, he has no idea of how to make good movies.
Man, it's been a while! I definitely recall it being reported that way in a number of papers and film-related publications, back at the time. Think Anderson might also reference them both in his commentry, though.
Not sure if they were offered the role, but I do remember them being reported as up for consideration. I strongly suspect it's because of having a pre-existing working relationship with them from the first 'Resident Evil' film.
I think it was a fairly respectful comment, to be honest. He's not name-calling. The fandom always seems to begrudgingly re-evaluate the previous film when a new one is worse than it hoped for. After 'Resurrection', it began to happen with 'Alien 3'. After Anderson's, it even happened with 'Resurrection'.
Thank you. He's right lol.
It doesn't help that not many fans liked either movie.
That was kind of FU to all the fans who downed him for making the first AvP the way he wanted to.
I mean don't get me wrong, I like Requiem but I also acknowledge that it's a flawed film... But damn..
I'll say this here, as much as I liked Requiem... even I can do without it, but keep the first AVP.
Ouch... True but... OUCH.
I mean, I like the first AVP more than Requiem. Still... OUCH.
Source:
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-other-paul-anderson-the-psychotic-action-vision-of-pompeii-director-paul-w-s-anderson/
Yeah, I've never heard either of those.
And where is it said that Milla and Michelle were offered Lex?
Yeah, I remember when Darkness shut the site down, I was bummed because I was really into the site. Glad the site was brought back.