We promised we’d be back with another episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast after the Alien: Covenant teaser trailer dropped and we keep our promises!
We have just uploaded the 44th episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download). Our final episode of 2016 sees Omegamorph, RidgeTop, Xenomorphine and I discuss the new Alien: Covenant teaser trailer.
The 44th episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast sees staff take a look at the recently released Alien: Covenant teaser trailer.
We offer our opinions on the trailer and break it down and talk through it scene by scene. We talk through what we loved about the trailer, what we didn’t enjoy and what impressions it gives us for the finished film’s release on the 19th of May 2017. It’s another lengthy one (you guys and girls seem to enjoy them!), clocking in at just under 3 hours.
We mentioned several of our articles in the podcast. You can find them here: teaser trailer breakdown, reveal that James Franco and Guy Pearce would be appearing in Alien: Covenant and all about the Neomorphs. We also posted a gallery of stills taken from the teaser trailer.
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I don't know-it seems the back is just another spot for the neomorph to come out. The spine pops out nice and neat (indeed disgusting). Isn't there a throatburster as well?
It's like your typical airheaded supermodel. Great to look at, but hardly anything going on upstairs.
Still this time I have to disagree with one key point in your discussion.
Its about all these complaints about the shower scene. I completely understand the argument, and if it was about any other franchise I would agree but its ALIEN! ALIEN!
And in Alien...
EVERYBODY DIES! EVERYBODY f**kING DIES!
This is not a spoiler! It won't keep me from being invested in the characters. The opposite- I will connect with them even more because I know it will be their last days. The question is only- who of them will make it out? And what price are they paying?
Look at
ALIEN: Everybody dies except for Ripley.
ALIENS: Everybody dies except for a litttle girl and a blind Marine- and Ripley. Oh and half an android. Okay bunch of survivors- but the vibe is EVERYBODY DIES
ALIEN 3 Everybody DIES! Includin all survivors of Aliens. All of them. DEAD. Only a psycho prisoner makes it out.
AVP: Everybody DIES! Even the main Predator. And again- only one person makes it out.
Even Prometheus- and there is only ALIEN DNA GOO in there and still- EVERYBODY DIES! One Survivor and an android head....
Okay Alien Resurrection had a bunch of survivors but- at the time in the theater I thought, okay this is a new beginning in the Alien Universe. I was totally cool with a few people surviving- so I give you that.
But still the overall feeling is- ALIENS WILL KILL EVERYONE!
Now I didn't really see the face of the guy in the trailer- so its not to spoilerish. The scene didn't take away from the movie in my opinion. No Brothers and Sisters- that scene in the end really pumped me up to be honest.
Now I want to see how it plays out in all its gory glory uncut and raw! I can't wait for that scene! This was one for the fans man. It made the point- the Alien is back! The Nightmare, the ultimate human destroyer will return to haunt us. And test us as a species. Especially after Prometheus which I like but- it dabbled too much with the context of the larger story arc (by making an even bigger mystery), and the horror fail flat.
So this scene was just hey- allthough it is in the vein of Prometheus- with that haunting and yet fitting song, about a strange enchanted android on a journey to the edge of existence- allthough it is still that lightly philsophical mystery SCiFi story- there it is! THE ALIEN! OUT FOR CARNAGE! Blood splattering on a naked woman! The beauty of humans in there most beautiful state of existence- turned in to nightmare.
ALIEN COVENANT
The trailer needed that scene for all the Alien fans who were bummed by Prometheus. They needed to see that.
God I can't wait for that movie. To me the vibe of trailer was perfect. Super atmospheric beginning, hints at new creatures- a continuation of a story that left us wanting- an absolute outstanding landscape, spaceship horror, two Fassbenders and in the end! SPLAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH!
The Alien is back!
And my life has meaning again.
film is totally looking like a big budget take on Inseminoid.
I'll look forward to that.
I totally agree. I wrote that sentence (Scientists can easily destroy any Sci-Fi movie) regarding to what Xenomorphine had written about Prometheus crew taking their helmets off. Some Sci-Fi movies contain more science than fiction where some are almost utter fiction. Not without a reason Star Wars is called space opera or fairy tale in space (it's marriage between Sci-Fi and fantasy when you think about it).
I plan on doing a podcast covering that series at some point (and talking about the similarities to Prometheus). Destroying Angels is the main reason I even got into the Expanded Universe and a series I love very much.
Yes the microbiological aspect is completely evaded as in 100% of SF films or air is breathable.
ALL SF films can be scientifically criticizing. Avatar, Terminator, Star Wars, Star Trek even Interstellar. Oddly nobody is shocked when guys easy comes into a black hole, or the guy move the books in a parallel world. It's amazingly scientific.
And then let's talk about avatar. It is not normal that the Na'Vi have strangely like us 2 arms, 2 legs, articulated fingersa head with 2 eyes, ears, nose, hair, skeleton ... Strange that the evolution is radically identical to ours.
It is true that Prometheus has some lack of writing, notably in Shaw's arguments to justify the mission.
It would have been so much easier for the scenario that Shaw found on earth monolithic engineers indicating the position of LV 423 via a hologram rather than cave paintings. The viewer would have more easily accepted and asked less questions.
For me Prometheus remains a very good film that leaves little clue behind him regarding the origin of xenormorph and that is what is essential.
That's because it's science fiction. Almost fantasy. We don't have the technology to go to other planets yet, plus lots of other things, hence speculative, future mythology. Asking for realism is a bit of a tall order. Even 2001: A Space Odyssey is not that realistic.
I didn't say they didn't. I'm saying Alien made use of it in an effective way. In Prometheus it's like "you shouldn't do that." "Oh well! WOOOOO!!!"
Scientists can easily destroy any Sci-Fi movie.
Which makes them look even more stupid because they didn't bother to confirm and verify before putting all their lives at risk (plus those back at base, who they'd be in danger of infecting - and who shouldn't even let them back on board, if following basic scientific protocol).
All of this is pretty bizarre when you remember how Ripley, 'Alien', addressed this precise issue as only causing problems if people didn't follow the kind of training even space-going tug jockeys are getting.
Again, that's just referring to chemical composition, not what might be living down there. It also meant they weren't even thinking of their own bacteria/etcetera contaminating their surroundings. Holloway was bad enough, but then they all go and do it - including Shaw, who was the one character pointing out it was against basic scientific (and archeological) protocols.
Real scientists had a lot of problems with how badly that film misrepresented their fields. Some of their criticism is heard here (along with constructive suggestion for how the various inaccuracies could have simply been fixed)
The Nostromo crew did it - as did the Prometheus crew, for a while. If anything, I'd argue it made those scenes a little more tense, not less.
Besides, they'd have clear visors, just like in 'Prometheus'. It's not like the audience would find it mysterious to identify which actor is speaking.
Most inexplicably miss her and Shaw making a left turn while running away and not, in fact, running in a straight line.
I'd completely forgot about that dialogue. That's just about good enough for me. Would have been nice for some specific comment about toxins and pathogens and etc though. With how much of Covenant seems to be course correcting following Prometheus, I'm sure it'd be something he's taken note of.
They had quarantine and decontamination in Prometheus.
What's more interesting, people acting like idiots and bad things happening to them... Or people being smart, and bad things still happen?
Alien at least used the idea of quarantine and isolation as a source of drama between characters, and it didn't leave Dallas looking completely stupid for it either.
I would argue that most people seem to ignore the science part in science fiction.
Somewhat. The majority of the podcast is us speculating, but we do talk about some potentially spoiler-ish rumors.
Logical fallacies and difficult to buy scenarios should not always be forgiven simply because a movie is a movie. This highly depends on the franchise or series, as Star Wars is equal part fantasy as it is Science Fiction. Alien has always been depicted as very hard sci-fi, so the standard for suspension of disbelief is higher. This is evident in the very first film when Ripley refuses to let the captain of the ship aboard in accordance with quarantine procedure. She's essentially a space trucker, and even she is highly concerned about infection due to protocol. The scientists in Prometheus couldn't care less it would seem, as is evidenced by far more than just the helmet-removal scene.
It's fine if Prometheus was plausible enough in all its scenarios for you, but that's like, your opinion, man. How the scientists acted was a common point of criticism among critics and audiences, however, and I'd simply like the filmmakers to learn from what I considered the missteps of Prometheus. I don't hate the film, and as I noted in the podcast it's actually grown on me over time, but I'm certainly not the only one who sees its many flaws.
"Doesn't every child want their parents dead?"
I just quickly skimmed through 2001...they spend maybe 20% of the film in full suits so there is that...
Good like 2001?
Exactly...What kind of movie would it be if we had to watch them shamble around in hazmat suits for 90% of the movie...
Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief.
1. Every epic Sci-Fi movie (Star Trek, Star Wars, Terminator, Alien series and so on) contain scientific inaccuracies. Even the recent ones like Gravity, Interstellar and The Martian are flawed on that field. Am I bothered? Not at all. You cannot take Sci-Fi movies too seriously because you wouldn't enjoy them at all.
2. Charlie Holloway doesn't take his helmet off on LV-223 surface. If he did that he would have been dead, like Ford says during the landing: Only if you're breathing through an exhaust pipe. CO2 is over 3 percent. Two minutes without a suit, you're dead. He does take his helmet off being inside Engineer pyramid knowing that the air (result of terraforming) is cleaner than Earth's one. It's a minor scene in the movie. Its explanation is sufficient enough. Besides, sometimes you have to sacrifice scientific accuracy and rational characters behaviour for a sake of the story itself. Deal with it. Charlie takes his helmet off? Not a big deal. Main protagonist in Interstellar enters the black hole and ... survives. Try to beat that
That might have been enough for some to buy scientists making that kind of decision after a few sentences, but for plenty of audiences it was not. It was one of the main issues Prometheus was mocked on.
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https://youtu.be/RBaKqOMGPWc?t=40s
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https://youtu.be/-BWnTW4rL0U?t=54s
Again, all they could see was basic atmospheric content, they had no idea what kind of pathogens might be present in that environment.
[as they reach an area of the structure that has water streaming down and the sun shining through the open ceiling]
Charlie Holloway: Look at this!
Elizabeth Shaw: Oh, Charlie!
Ford: Jesus! Sun light's heating the water. Check out the humidity.
Charlie Holloway: Yeah, look at the CO2 levels. Outside it's completely toxic and in...in here, there's nothing. It's breathable.
[as Holloway prepares to take off his helmet]
Elizabeth Shaw: What are you doing? Charlie, don't be an idiot!
Charlie Holloway: Hey, don't be a skeptic. Right? There's something generating an atmosphere. David?
David: Dr. Holloway is correct.
Ford: Cleaner than earth, actually.
Charlie Holloway: They were terraforming here!
Elizabeth Shaw: Please, don't do...
Charlie Holloway: Look, Eli...
Elizabeth Shaw: Please, don't!
Charlie Holloway: Eli, I'm not wearing this thing anymore! Wish me luck, babe.
[he takes off his helmet, takes a large breath of the air and laughs]
Elizabeth Shaw: You crazy bastard!
YES!!!!!!
Yes. It would seem only some of the crew are awakened earlier than planned?
I wouldn't hold my breath.
Correct.