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John Davis Talks Predator Franchise

Collider recently did an interview with John Davis (Producer of every Predator movie). He basically says that they need to rest the Predator franchise for a few years and then maybe see if they can re-invent it again. He also reveals that the reason Arnie didn’t want to do Predator 2 was because he wanted $250,000 more than what they offered him. Previously, Arnie declined to Predator 2 because he didn’t like the concept of setting it in the city.

Davis: Yes. I talked to Arnold about rebooting Predator and doing something in terms of that. I think in terms of right now, it needs to rest for a couple of years. I can’t see why if we can’t be clever we can’t reinvent it again.

Davis: Yeah. He changed the setting. He put it on another planet. You have to keep changing the setting. You have to find a clever way to do it. If we were going to do it with Arnold; it was like, “Does it make sense to go back and to put him with a young team?” So maybe it’s 20 years later, you have retired, and you are the one person who has survived one of these encounters. Is that a reboot in the fact that you are in it with a group of young guys? Is that a reboot? You just have to figure out a way to reboot it. Rodriguez rebooted it. It’s all in the planet. The sequel to the first one rebooted it. We should’ve had Arnold in the movie. The deal broke down over $250,000, which is a shame. But it was moved from the jungle to the city. You have to create a freshness about it. When we did Alien vs. Predator we kind of rebooted it because we put the two pieces together. You just have to give it enough time to come up with a new freshness. It is what they did so brilliantly with Fast Five.

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  1. skull-splitter
    It doesn't need rest, it needs attention, funds and love. Not shelling them out for a quick buck... I always wondered why fan-made films and game-mods were Fox'ed for "quality control" while official material lacked substantial depth and feel.
  2. Hellspawn28
    Predators was the first Predator movie in almost 20 years, I find it silly to put it to rest when the Predator movies where on rest for another 20 years. The AVP movies don't count since those where crossovers.
  3. Kimarhi
    John Davis needs to go somewhere else and get a fresh start.

    A new producer who can read and understand scripts, storylines, and characters instead of just earmarking shots fired, explosions, and death count needs to take his place.

    Yeah he's hit a few homeruns at his 1000 times at bat, but even the sun shines on a dog's ass.
  4. Master
    AvP sucked on every level. AvP:R I put on the same level as P2 only because it was more entertaining than AvP.

    You are trying to piss me off, aren`t ya Doom? :laugh:

    Did you want me to?

    Oh I know you`d do your best ;)

    A fresh start doesn't begin with movies that suck, like the ones you mentioned.

    You hated PREDATORS too?

    -Rakai'Thwei

    It looks more like hatered towards G2000 and X-men FC.
  5. Hellspawn28
    Predators to me was a nice fresh start for the series after the AVP movies. Just like X-Men First Class did with X3 and Wolverine Origins. And Godzilla 2000 did with GINO and Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla.
  6. Spidey3121
    Yeah, AVP:R is nowhere near Predator 2. Or AVP for that matter. But then again, it's all opinions. As for a more expansive sequel to Predators, i'm definitely in favor of the idea. Predators wasn't great but it was serviceable. There was unrealized potential for greatest. If they could improve about the positives and do away with the negatives i'd definitely be pumped up for another film.
  7. Master
    This is normal. When AvP-r came out peeps were saying it`s better then AvP and P2...

    I was always saying that it`s medicore at similar level as AvP. Where AvP did right Ps did wrong and vice versa.
  8. BANE
    Having avidly loved it at first, after several rewatches I've been left thinking that this film served one purpose only: to provide a decent (not amazing, but good) transition movie to more, awesome films in the future. I REALLY hope the future ones are better (as there are areas to improve, despite it being a very good movie...just not spectacular as the series can be).
  9. Master
    I have nothing but fear for what RR would do next with the franchise.

    My fears were already confirmed with PREDATORS. The fact that a sequel is potentially in mind just infuriates me.

    but that 1994 script scares the hell out of me.

    That script didn't just scared you, it scared me too. I actually wrote a concerned letter to Rodriguez addressing the 1994 script, only to have it unopened and returned to sender.

    -Rakai'Thwei

    Compared to 1994 script Predators were ok. It homage feast though, with it`s new and fresh elements (Falcon, I`m looking at you) nearly unused. I was pissed that some potentialy good scenes never made to screen. Othre thing is that I rose my brow more then once especialy when BSP takes granade bouquet blast in point blank range and yet he have not a single scratch.
  10. RakaiThwei
    I have nothing but fear for what RR would do next with the franchise.

    My fears were already confirmed with PREDATORS. The fact that a sequel is potentially in mind just infuriates me.

    but that 1994 script scares the hell out of me.

    That script didn't just scared you, it scared me too. I actually wrote a concerned letter to Rodriguez addressing the 1994 script, only to have it unopened and returned to sender.

    -Rakai'Thwei
  11. Darkbladepred2.0
    First off, John Davis has never made wise decisions. Secondly, as much as I enjoyed Predators, I have nothing but fear for what RR would do next with the franchise. I feel like Predators stayed grounded because of Antal. I have huge respect for RR, and love pretty much all of his films, but that 1994 script scares the hell out of me.
  12. chrisr232007
    For a moment, I thought you were gonna go all Romper Stomper on me for my opinion.

    I personally enjoyed the all the previous films which have come before PREDATORS, but PREDATORS just... it just pissed me off on so many levels. Now, I'm easily entertained but this movie just... I just didn't agree with it, and I don't think Robert Rodriguez was the right man for the job. At all whatsoever.

    -Rakai'Thwei

    Hey everyone has a opinion which i respect that and we do both agree that RR should put his hands on any more films that deal with preds which Im not a big fan of his style of movies besides Sin City which that was just a fun popcorn flick to me.
  13. RakaiThwei
    For a moment, I thought you were gonna go all Romper Stomper on me for my opinion.

    I personally enjoyed the all the previous films which have come before PREDATORS, but PREDATORS just... it just pissed me off on so many levels. Now, I'm easily entertained but this movie just... I just didn't agree with it, and I don't think Robert Rodriguez was the right man for the job. At all whatsoever.

    -Rakai'Thwei
  14. chrisr232007
    Well thats cool I just think it was ok but could have been much more than what we got.  I dont think RR should make another one.  Just a side note I didnt hate AVP which was better than AVP-R which was just down right bad to me.
  15. walker31
    First of all, this man is an idiot (John Davis).  I find it ironic that he sites Fast Five as his example.  The fast and the furious came out in 2001., so in 10 years we got 5 movies, with only 2 years between the last 2!?  With hints of another one at the end of Fast Five.   THats his idea of leaving a franchise alone?  I dont want to wait another 20 years for another Predator movie!!!!  That pisses me off that they will blow money on crap like the new penguin movie coming with Jim carrey, but wont make a quality Predator movie knowing there is a fanbase out here.  Predators, in my opinion, didnt come close to the standard, or the tagline...fear is reborn, no it wasnt!  WHy, why is it too much to ask for a good Predator movie?  We can have five race car movies, all pretty much the same crap, different cars, but God forbid we make more Predator or Aliens!!
  16. RakaiThwei
    The anti-Predators sentiment on this site doesn't exactly reflect wider opinion. Look on imdb.com and you can see that Predators is the highest-rated sequel on there

    What Anti-PREDATORS sentiment? From what I've seen, this site is Pro-PREDATORS. I'm just one of the few here who disliked this movie.

    Rule of thumb, I think for here, and of course personally my own is to pretty much never trust what IMDB says.

    I could argue that so many things on the PREDATORS page there are inaccurate, especially in the FAQs and Trivia. I heard that sometime ago that Berserker's jaw bone on his mask belonged to a Xenomorph. Didn't they want to get away from AvP? Then why would that statement be there in the FAQs and Trivia?

    Anybody can edit anything (provided you give IMDB your credit card), makes IMDB in my book, an unreliable and untrustworthy site.

    A sequel to Predators can go in some new directions - the homeplanet, Predator cities, elaborate on the warring between the Predator and the BSP predators...

    John Davis is a raving moron.

    We've seen the Predator homeworld in AvP-R. There is no need to visit that homeworld again, because that might do more harm than good. Especially, if it's Rodriguez driving the story there. Ugh... the tenacity that ....man... had when he had written his 1994 script with the planet being the Predator homeworld and introducing the Predator King is just... No..

    We were promised an elaboration as to WHY the Originals and the BSPs were supposed to be warring in PREDATORS, but that promise was not held up as you can see. The closest thing we had to an elaboration was an implication that the BSPs were Bad Bloods, and this is pretty much given more weight IF, and this is a BIG IF, you consider the Crucified Predator animated short on the DVD and Blu-ray canon.

    -Rakai'Thwei
  17. jimmylace
    The anti-Predators sentiment on this site doesn't exactly reflect wider opinion. Look on imdb.com and you can see that Predators is the highest-rated sequel on there:

    Predator 7.8/10
    Predators 6.5/10
    Predator 2 6.0/10

    AvP 5.4/10
    AvPR 4.8/10

    This is why it simply does not make sense for FOX not to get a sequel going... I'm not even sure if most fans would want Arnold in a new movie. A sequel to Predators can go in some new directions - the homeplanet, Predator cities, elaborate on the warring between the Predator and the BSP predators...

    John Davis is a raving moron.
  18. Master
    It`s not that I really care if in new film the previous ones are mentioned or not. But my whole life I was waiting for Predator 3 that will show things, Harrigan predicted at the end of P2. "Don`t worry asshole, you`ll get your chance." This should be theme for another film. And to freash things up, set it on the dessert.

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    You know, Master, I actually LIKE talking to you. Wanna know why? Cause you're not elitist and you don't try to slam down people for differing opinions.  ;D

    Same here mate, Cheers  ;)
  19. RakaiThwei
    You're right, new is not bad but I just don't think that the BSPs weren't really needed. To me it totally degraded the original concept of the Predator, and the whole Preserve Planet thing just made the idea of going to other worlds to hunt very redundant. Simply put, I just didn't like the last movie because I disagreed with many of the concepts they introduced and felt as if they weren't simply needed.

    You know, Master, I actually LIKE talking to you. Wanna know why? Cause you're not elitist and you don't try to slam down people for differing opinions.  ;D

    But anyway, I understand what you're saying. PREDATORS was a homage fest. I'm not going to lie, nor am I going to sugar coat my experience from watching the movie. It was a homage fest. Plain and simple. From the dialogue lines, to the environment and even to the Classic Predator who was admittedly, a bone thrown to the fans.

    While I understand you want a continuation of the continuity, there is where I disagree. I think a straight up reboot/new continuity/AU would be good.

    Where I do agree with you is that yes, bring in a member of the original Predator species, do what P2 did, put it in the desert on Earth... Or set it far ahead into the future and put it on a space station. Or put it in an under ocean facility.

    As for an AvP film... well, I welcome the idea of what happened to the Antarctic Queen. Either she had been crushed by the oceanic abysmal pressure, or she might be frozen once again. So many possibilities there. If you want to restore the AvP idea... here is what you do... Salvage AvP, retcon AvP-R (I liked the film, but it's flawed and to satisfy everyone, why not retcon it?) and replace it with a story involving the Antarctic Queen somehow being found hundreds of years later.

    -Rakai'Thwei
  20. Scree
    I have no problem with Predator movies on hold for now. It's time to go back to AVP and make the third movie. I want to know what happens after Yutani got the Predator gun.
  21. Master
    BSP were somewhat new, and new is not bad. The BAD is redoing same thing every time. But it`s always worse as no copy of original is ever as good as original. I don`t want another waterfall scene, no stick around, no ugly motherf**ker, no over here etc. etc.

    I`m tired with all those attempts to recapture the feeling of original. This one of reasons why I don`t want Arnold back. I want film that wil take same aproach as P2. Same creature*, same universe but totaly different environment and theme.



    *By saying same creature I didn`t mean Anytime`s clone one more time. Different creature of same species. SP or Normal, I don`t give God damn.
  22. RakaiThwei
    Vin Diesel and Dwane Johnson combo would be neat. Arnold, no of course not. But tihs new film should be here in few year time, not few decades. If we wait too long then what we get is another "going back to the roots shit, in jungle with wristblades and PC for third f**king time".

    And I understand where your coming from.

    If you want a new film in maybe... three to six years time, six being the most, then it should be a straight up reboot is all I'm going to say.

    And if they do a reboot, please, none of that BSP bullshit. Those.... things... really weren't needed.

    -Rakai'Thwei
  23. Master
    Vin Diesel and Dwane Johnson combo would be neat. Arnold, no of course not. But tihs new film should be here in few year time, not few decades. If we wait too long then what we get is another "going back to the roots shit, in jungle with wristblades and PC for third f**king time".
  24. RakaiThwei
    I`m hoping franchise won`t go into suspension for such liong time. We aren`t geting any younger Rakai. Neither are the actors (I`m talking about Adam Baldwine, not Arnie as he is to old already to be believeble in Predator film). They shouldn`t wait till 2020. I think year or two after Prometheus is good time for next Predator or AvP... though I`d prefere Predator.

    I strongly believe that too much of a good thing can be bad. I mean we've had already.. what? Three movies pumped out within the last seven years. That's pretty fast in order to dish out movies, and I think a well deserved rest for the franchise would be good.

    I wouldn't mind an AVP film, but as for a PREDATOR(S) sequel... No. Especially after how I was disappointed with PREDATORS and the confusion it's caused, not to mention the man who was behind it.

    If anything, a straight up PREDATOR reboot would be fine as it is. Start a new timeline or new Predator universe. It shouldn't have any connection to the previous five movies, not even the original. It shouldn't be a sequel, not a remake, but a straight up stand-alone, reboot. Davis wants to re-invent the franchise? I say step away from the old continuities, and do a new one altogether.

    To everyone saying "BRING BACK AH-NULD!" ....Seriously?

    Leave the man alone, he's sixty three years old and by the time a Predator film is announced, he's going to be what? Sixty five? Sixty six at the most? Not to mention Arnold has his hands on other issues such as his Superhero movie project, and is already in talks for Terminator 5, so he's going to be pretty busy and there is no telling when a Predator film is going to be announced again.

    You want an action stars for this movie? Hell, get Jason Statham or Dwayne Johnson. Maybe even Terry Crews.

    -Rakai'Thwei
  25. grobda
    The franchise needs a damn rest, but something more than just "A couple" of years.

    I'd say maybe another ten or even twenty years would do the franchise some good. Ten being the least.. but then again knowing Hollywood, we're looking at maybe another four. And that damn sure isn't enough time to give it a rest.

    Hearing that the franchise is getting a rest, with a potential reboot/remake/sequel... is kind of pleasing and unnerving. Pleasing because it's getting a rest for god knows how long. Unnerving because we don't know what we're gonna get.

    -Rakai'Thwei

    The franchise ALREADY had MORE THAN ENOUGH rest!

    Another ten or twenty years at least you say? I don't know if I should praise you for your limitless 'patience' (if it can even be called that) or...
  26. bleau
    You left Predator movie for 250,000$ diffrence Arnie... I am so upset...
    A FEW YEARS! HOW LONG IS THAT?

    Maybe five to six years at the most... two to three at the least, knowing Hollywood.

    Personally, I'm hoping ten years but that ain't gonna happen.

    -Rakai'Thwei

    I`m hoping franchise won`t go into suspension for such liong time. We aren`t geting any younger Rakai. Neither are the actors (I`m talking about Adam Baldwine, not Arnie as he is to old already to be believeble in Predator film). They shouldn`t wait till 2020. I think year or two after Prometheus is good time for next Predator or AvP... though I`d prefere Predator.


    Yeah, I'd like to see a new Predator sequel two maybe three years after Prometheus. Then a few years latter possibly AvP reboot. Hopefully they do it right.
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