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Alien 5 ‘won’t tread on the toes of Prometheus 2’

There is a little more information about Neill Blomkamp’s Alien sequel in April 2015’s issue of Empire Magazine. In the article, Blomkamp confirms what we guessed already – the film won’t be called “Alien 5” but doesn’t say what as that would give too much away about the film: “It’s kinda quite bold, but it gives away too much if I say the title”. Secondly, Alien 5 won’t ‘tread on the toes of Prometheus 2’ and Blomkamp changed one thing in his film that Ridley Scott felt was ‘bumping into Prometheus 2‘. Well, it’s no secret that Blomkamp was possibly going to have references to the Space Jockeys / Engineers as the Derelict Spacecraft was featured in his concept art. So has that now been removed or toned down?

Neill Blomkamp Alien 5 Concept Art Alien 5 'won't tread on the toes of Prometheus 2'

Derelict Spacecraft

Lastly, Blomkamp again reiterates that his Alien movie will be a true sequel to the first two: “Where it went after Aliens to me, as a fan, was wrong”. The new Alien film will be “the triplet of the first two. There’s a shitload missing as a fan that I would want to see”. The new issue of Empire Magazine is on sale this week. We’ll try to get scans of it if it contains something else. Thanks to Nightmare Asylum for the news.



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  1. HuDaFuK
    Like I've said a bunch of times - until the studio outright tells us what's going on, I reserve the right to hold off calling it anything.

    I also reserve the right to complain about it being a retcon until we know 100% for sure that's what it is.
  2. RakaiThwei
    The point is we dislike the whole cocnept of a retcon.

    And that's fine. But if Blomkamp saying that he wasn't going to undo Alien 3 and Resurrection but is not following those movies, then what else can you call it? I don't see it as a retcon. So then, what is it?

    Look, guys... I understand your frustrations. I do. I truly do.. But I'm just trying to see a silver lining in all of this.
  3. HuDaFuK
    But that's not the point at all. The point is we dislike the whole cocnept of a retcon. Being better than ACM is irrelevant in that regard, it's still a retcon (supposedly).
  4. predxeno
    That wasn't the point I was making at all, I'm just saying that in either universe fans seem to dislike where the Alien franchise is heading though it's safe to say that Alien 5 will fare much better than A:CM.
  5. HuDaFuK
    What with Fox's stand on the game's canon status, it kinda is.  Though I suppose fans could once more go back into their shell and say every story they don't like isn't canon. :-\

    That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying your bringing up ACM in response to Corporal disliking a retcon is completely pointless, because I'm willing to bet hard cash the game will have zero influence on the movie Blomkamp is making.

    The game would likewise have zero influence if they chose to simply do something new without Hicks and just avoid the whole continuity clusterf*ck altogether. ACM is a moot point.
  6. predxeno
    What with Fox's stand on the game's canon status, it kinda is.  Though I suppose fans could once more go back into their shell and say every story they don't like isn't canon. :-\
  7. HuDaFuK
    I know that this is all just fiction but the series carried itself in a very serious fashion. Alien is often applauded because of its realism, the way the characters felt like genuine people, how a big deal wasn't made of all the fantastic technology, etc. It was grounded in realism. Every film had an impact, something that effected that made-up reality.

    Particularly this. People keep bringing up Godzilla or superhero and horror film series that have done retcons, but tonally they come across as totally different to the Alien series. They're just a different kettle of fish. No one talks about the serious continuity of Halloween. No one cares about the over-arching story of Godzilla, after the first couple it's just about big monsters smashing stuff up (which applies equally to the retcon series). Superhero stories are notorious for arbitrarily undoing things like death (a reason I generally dislike the genre - if characters just come back all the time, what threat does death pose?)

    Alien is different to those franchises. The films, despite being sci-fi, are grounded in a very serious reality and form a continuous story, half of which they're apparently now saying, "Nah, didn't happen." I just don't personally think an alternate-history retcon fits into the Alien franchise in an intelligent way. It really does come off as cheap fanfic stuff. I mean, they could so easily just ignore the current films and go somewhere else in an unobtrusive way, and make a great film. So why go down the route of just writing off stuff when it cheapens everything?
  8. Corporal Hicks
    ^^ As above. I know that this is all just fiction but the series carried itself in a very serious fashion. Alien is often applauded because of its realism, the way the characters felt like genuine people, how a big deal wasn't made of all the fantastic technology, etc. It was grounded in realism. Every film had an impact, something that effected that made-up reality.

    For all Resurrection's flaws, I thought Ripley's return was one of the more interesting things and cloning never felt out of place in that reality. We can clone now.

    This isn't grounded in reality. Or in the reality of the series. It's not like Star Trek or Stargate where they have access to other timelines where things went differently.

    Don't get me wrong, I will watch the film and I'll be happy to see Hicks back and if it's an awesome film, all the better. But I'll always be disappointed at taking this particular angle.
  9. SiL
    Especially in a series that's followed a single storyline, it makes an major event fairly f**king pointless and largely takes the edge off of, well, everything.

    "Oh no, my favourite character died! Hope they make another one later where they didn't."

    It's also pretty hard to immerse an audience into any sort of universe when they're constantly aware of alternate timelines they could be watching instead. Alien sells its fantastical elements by trying to make its world feel real -- how the hell do you manage that when your opening scene basically amounts to "BUT WHAT IF THAT OTHER STUFF DIDN'T HAPPEN?"

    That's not reality, that's shitty fanfiction.
  10. RakaiThwei
    Make that three of us. ;)

    I knew I wasn't crazy and alone in thinking this was what could be happening!

    What's interesting is that, while this is something new for a Western audience, other franchises outside of the US, more specifically the Godzilla Franchise, have done these things before, numerous times.

    I wanted to address this.. there are some Western franchises which have done this. Namely, Halloween, Robocop and Highlander. Just to name a few. Might as well add Alien-Predator to that list.

    And it would be fantastic if the Alien films could enjoy the same stature, respect, and critical acclaim that the Godzilla movies do.

    Considering that Godzilla has a very strong following in the West and East, even having a convention in the franchise's honor, G-Fest, I would say that Godzilla does have quite the stature, respect and acclaim which Alien does. Also if you like that metaphorical bull in your movies, Godzilla has that too.. Namely the original 1954 and 1985 sequel.

    Just sayin'.
  11. NetworkATTH
    What's interesting is that, while this is something new for a Western audience, other franchises outside of the US, more specifically the Godzilla Franchise, have done these things before, numerous times.
  12. Corporal Hicks
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    Whatever problems Alien3 and AR had, they respected the continuity.

    LOL no.

    Magic egg.

    Which is easily fixable. Just a shame they didn't put effort into conveying it.

    And he has been pretty explicit in saying it's Alien, then Aliens, then his film.

    People are clinging way too much to his mention that he's not trying to undo 3 and Res, which in the context he said it in came across as "I'm not doing my movie just to retcon the third and fourth films, I just want to follow up on Aliens the way I'd like to see the story go."

    Whilst I still dislike the idea of the alternate universe - it's still the only way the only way Blomkamp can go with what he's said of his intentions so far.

    Clemens, you can find all the recent news here: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/category/alien-5-news/

    He doesn't explicitly say it but it seems pretty damn inevitable with his comments so far.

    People still worship Ridley now even after Prometheus. When it comes to canon, it has never been about using fair, unbiased standards and it has always been about some shallow popularity contest, and apparently Riddles is still at the top.

    Not entirely true - http://www.metacritic.com/movie/prometheus 6.5 from users and critics.


  13. Nightmare Asylum
    If anything, I'd argue that being "serious" films would allow for even more leeway in terms of "continuity." Why struggle to try to come up with come comic booky explanation for things when you can just ignore what doesn't work for your story? Let each director give their own personal take on the franchise to the best of their ability without having to be bogged down by what someone else did that they don't personally care for.
  14. Mr. Clemens
    "On the same level" is all a matter of opinion. Whatever your opinion of these other film series, the basis for such a partial retcon is hardly a new concept.

    Hardly new, certainly, and I suppose easily taken in stride by the comic book community. I guess my failing is that a part of me still sees the Alien series as a series of serious films. But maybe I should have let that go post- Alien 3.
  15. Mr. Clemens
    To be fair, ignoring A3 and Res pretty much means it's going to be an alternate timeline unless they make it a dream, but I doubt it.

    Exactly. Like how the Heisei Godzilla movies ignored everything from Godzilla Raids Again to Terror of Mecha-Godzilla, rendered all of that as an alternate timeline. If anything... all things Alien related might as well be looked at like that.

    I kinda knew you'd come along with that stuff again. 'Godzilla'. 'Robocop'. You'd put these things on the same level as Alien? Might as well throw Scooby-Doo in there, too.  :P
  16. RakaiThwei
    To be fair, ignoring A3 and Res pretty much means it's going to be an alternate timeline unless they make it a dream, but I doubt it.

    Exactly. Like how the Heisei Godzilla movies ignored everything from Godzilla Raids Again to Terror of Mecha-Godzilla, rendered all of that as an alternate timeline. If anything... all things Alien related might as well be looked at like that.
  17. Mr. Clemens
    People are clinging way too much to his mention that he's not trying to undo 3 and Res, which in the context he said it in came across as "I'm not doing my movie just to retcon the third and fourth films, I just want to follow up on Aliens the way I'd like to see the story go."

    I'm personally not clinging to anything - I've had nothing invested in the series, really, since the end credits of Alien 3. But at some point, Blomkamp is going to have to stand up and say 'yes, this is an alternate timeline', or 'no, I've thought of a way to work around 3 & 4'...

    That's the quote I'm waiting for!  ;D
  18. Nightmare Asylum
    And he has been pretty explicit in saying it's Alien, then Aliens, then his film.

    People are clinging way too much to his mention that he's not trying to undo 3 and Res, which in the context he said it in came across as "I'm not doing my movie just to retcon the third and fourth films, I just want to follow up on Aliens the way I'd like to see the story go."
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