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Updated: Walter Hill Sent Sigourney Weaver a 50-Page Alien 5 Treatment!

Talking to the Empire Magazine for their latest Heroes Issue, Sigourney Weaver revealed to the magazine that Walter Hill sent her a 50 page treatment for an Alien 5! Unfortunately she doesn’t mention any details, but Weaver states that she received it nearly 18 months back, in the aftermath of the death of Blomkamp’s Alien 5.

Speaking to Empire in the new Heroes Issue – on sale now – Weaver revealed that she received a 50-page treatment from Alien franchise producer Walter Hill around a year and a half ago for a different take on a fifth Ripley film, which came about in the aftermath of Blomkamp’s project falling through – though she’s ultimately not sure the future of Alien rests in the revival of that legendary character. “I don’t know,” she said. “Ridley has gone in a different direction. Maybe Ripley has done her bit. She deserves a rest.”

 Walter Hill Sent Sigourney Weaver a 50-Page Alien 5 Treatment!

Walter Hill and David Giler at the premiere of Alien 3.

Though once a huge part of the Alien franchise, Walter Hill has been absent from the series since Alien 3. Hill co-wrote multiple drafts of both the original Alien and Alien 3 along with his Brandywine partner David Giler.

This issue of Empire is now on shelves, but we don’t know yet if the actual article goes into more detail about this treatment.

Update: Here’s the full two page article in PDF format.

 Walter Hill Sent Sigourney Weaver a 50-Page Alien 5 Treatment!

Empire Magazine (July 2020)

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  1. OpenMaw
    Quote from: Janek on Jun 15, 2020, 02:12:21 PM
    Quote from: Drukathi on Jun 15, 2020, 10:28:00 AM
    Quote from: Janek on Jun 15, 2020, 09:39:41 AM
    Not sure if trolling or not but ALIEN is a horror franchise.

    Horror =/= dead end. Characters don't have to die or go crazy in the finale.

    Alien - this is the perfect horror, which masterfully beat and change cliches. Alien 3 is another horror that USES cliches without imagination. If Ripley died at the end of Alien (as Ridley wished), we would not be here.




    What cliches are you talking about? Would you have liked to see Ripley ride into the sunset with her new family? I believe Ripley's arc finishing the way it did in Alien 3 was true to the feel of the series.


    Quote from: SM on Jun 15, 2020, 09:53:23 AM
    The only way Blomkamp's flick would get considered is if he had a hit movie, and that's unlikely until he makes one.

    That is definitely the case.

    Faceless characters there just to get killed off, unlikeable characters that we're eager to see killed off, the typical cliche of all horror cliches where the hero of the series is in more personal danger. Alien 3 is full of cliches. For example, why do we have 25 convicts? Because it will give us a higher body count.

    Worked well for the most successful film in the franchise. Ripley went to sleep in two out of four movies. The two really successful and artistically strongest films in the franchise.
  2. Local Trouble
    Then it looks like they're leaking this in the hopes it'll go viral.  I doubt we'll get to see the full script, but I'd imagine they want fans to start campaigning on their behalf to get it made.
  3. Drukathi
    Quote from: Keyes on Jun 16, 2020, 01:47:15 PM
    Hmm, I want to believe, but my Spider senses are tingling that this maybe a hoax.

    The Brandywine website the pdf was hosted by looks pretty empty right now: https://brandywineprod.com/

    Also their contact e-mail address, nostromo-at-brandywineprod.com seems a little fanboyish don't you think?

    Well, wiki indicates this site as an official.

    Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 16, 2020, 01:48:55 PM
    I can confirm Hill's new script is real. It also, very likely, won't get made. Blame the Company. I can't say more, really.

    Sounds like some kind of a teaser. ;)

    Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 16, 2020, 01:48:55 PM
    I can confirm Hill's new script is real.
    Good.
    Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 16, 2020, 01:48:55 PM
    It also, very likely, won't get made.
    Not good.
    Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 16, 2020, 01:48:55 PM
    Blame the Company.
    Sounds like studio intrigue. RS woke up again when they started talking about a new film?
    Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 16, 2020, 01:48:55 PM
    I can't say more, really.
    This is more than enough.if this is not a joke from you...
  4. TheBATMAN
    Id love to see Giler and Hill's take on the story. They seem to have completely removed themselves from the series now so this is a nice surprise. Have they ever made their thoughts felt on the prequels at all?
  5. Corporal Hicks
    Well it seems like it might be legitmate: https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/walter-hill-alien-5-treatment-wants-sigourney-weaver

    QuoteToday, Hill's production company revealed to SYFY WIRE not just that the treatment exists, but also that he wrote it alongside fellow OG Alien producer David Giler. And this isn't some long stagnant project that's just now picking up steam. No, the latest draft is dated from March of this year.

    Let's not get too ahead of ourselves, though. Everything hinges on an ambivalent Weaver making the call on whether or not she'll reprise the iconic role of Ellen Ripley.

    "Sigourney, as she has from the very beginning, is being too modest about her proven ability to pull off the idea — which is to tell a story that scares the pants off your date, kicks the ass of a new Xenomorph, and conducts a meditation on both the universe of the Alien franchise and the destiny of the character of Lt. Ellen Ripley," Hill said in a statement obtained by SYFY WIRE.

    Hill and Giler's company, Brandywine Productions, released an image of the treatment's title page, which bears the series' famous tagline: "In space no one can hear you scream," with the spine-tingling addition of "In space no one can hear you dream." There are also two historical quotes at the bottom, one from Edgar Allan Poe and one William Tecumseh Sherman.

    https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1100xauto/public/alienvscriptphoto5.jpg
  6. Perfect-Organism
    Quote from: Drukathi on Jun 15, 2020, 07:43:06 PM
    Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jun 15, 2020, 06:55:23 PM
    Exactly, the ending of Aliens was so positive it practically had a Disney feel to it.  It was Alien 3 that took the series into the abysmal darkness that polarized movie goers.

    It's definitely funny that Aliens is seen as one of the best action, sci-fi films of all time.  There is a place for dark endings (Alien: Covenant) but do you really think Aliens suffered from a happy ending?

    I find it funny that people go crazy when they see a happy end in their dark fantasies franchises.
  7. Perfect-Organism
    Quote from: Drukathi on Jun 15, 2020, 02:26:01 PM
    Quote from: Janek on Jun 15, 2020, 02:12:21 PM
    I believe Ripley's arc finishing the way it did in Alien 3 was true to the feel of the series.

    Nothing like this! Where did you get this? Alien - happy end. Aliens - happy end. Alien 3 - bad end. I think the definition of "was true to the feel of the series" is infinitely far from reality. And it is an attempt to justify the mess created in Alien 3. Plus, trying to give some ghostly weight to the A3. Plus, distortion of facts about the series.
    Alien/Aliens - meeting with evil, death and destruction, but victory and life at the end.
    Alien 3 - meeting with evil, death and destruction at the end. This film is not part of a series - spiritually.

    Exactly, the ending of Aliens was so positive it practically had a Disney feel to it.  It was Alien 3 that took the series into the abysmal darkness that polarized movie goers.
  8. Janek
    Quote from: MaxDuNord on Jun 15, 2020, 02:58:03 PM
    Alien: 1 survivor out of 7 + cat
    Aliens: 3 survivors out of 172 people (158 colonist + 12 marines + Ripley + Burke) + Bishop

    Happy endings? Victories? Really?

    Alien³ had better survival rate if you count crew of the USCSS Patna.

    Good summary mate and for fun you could also add the prequels.

    Prometheus: 2 survivors out of 17 (Only 1 survivor really if you take into account that Shaw dies before Covenant starts)
    Covenant: Probably zero survivors out of a crew of 15 + 2000 colonists?

    ALIEN is really a dark franchise and that is one of the many reasons it is so great!


    Quote from: Drukathi on Jun 15, 2020, 02:26:01 PM
    Quote from: Janek on Jun 15, 2020, 02:12:21 PM
    I believe Ripley's arc finishing the way it did in Alien 3 was true to the feel of the series.

    Nothing like this! Where did you get this? Alien - happy end. Aliens - happy end. Alien 3 - bad end. I think the definition of "was true to the feel of the series" is infinitely far from reality. And it is an attempt to justify the mess created in Alien 3. Plus, trying to give some ghostly weight to the A3. Plus, distortion of facts about the series.
    Alien/Aliens - meeting with evil, death and destruction, but victory and life at the end.
    Alien 3 - meeting with evil, death and destruction at the end. This film is not part of a series - spiritually.

    We must be talking about different movies mate.
  9. MaxDuNord
    Alien: 1 survivor out of 7 + cat
    Aliens: 3 survivors out of 172 people (158 colonist + 12 marines + Ripley + Burke) + Bishop

    Happy endings? Victories? Really?

    Alien³ had better survival rate if you count crew of the USCSS Patna.
  10. Drukathi
    Quote from: Janek on Jun 15, 2020, 02:12:21 PM
    I believe Ripley's arc finishing the way it did in Alien 3 was true to the feel of the series.

    Nothing like this! Where did you get this? Alien - happy end. Aliens - happy end. Alien 3 - bad end. I think the definition of "was true to the feel of the series" is infinitely far from reality. And it is an attempt to justify the mess created in Alien 3. Plus, trying to give some ghostly weight to the A3. Plus, distortion of facts about the series.
    Alien/Aliens - meeting with evil, death and destruction, but victory and life at the end.
    Alien 3 - meeting with evil, death and destruction at the end. This film is not part of a series - spiritually.
  11. Janek
    Quote from: Drukathi on Jun 15, 2020, 10:28:00 AM
    Quote from: Janek on Jun 15, 2020, 09:39:41 AM
    Not sure if trolling or not but ALIEN is a horror franchise.

    Horror =/= dead end. Characters don't have to die or go crazy in the finale.

    Alien - this is the perfect horror, which masterfully beat and change cliches. Alien 3 is another horror that USES cliches without imagination. If Ripley died at the end of Alien (as Ridley wished), we would not be here.

    What cliches are you talking about? Would you have liked to see Ripley ride into the sunset with her new family? I believe Ripley's arc finishing the way it did in Alien 3 was true to the feel of the series.


    Quote from: SM on Jun 15, 2020, 09:53:23 AM
    The only way Blomkamp's flick would get considered is if he had a hit movie, and that's unlikely until he makes one.

    That is definitely the case.
  12. Keyes
    Very interesting. I'm surprised this news didn't get out sooner if the treatment has been around a year and a half.

    Like others have suggested, I think Sigourney is loyal to Blomkamp's vision and was being diplomatic here. Would love to know what Hill came up with.
  13. MaxDuNord
    I'd love to see one more Ripley's adventure. I just don't want them to retcon two good movies in the series (Alien³ and Resurrection have flaws but I like them, Weaver was amazing in both movies) as this would lead to a very bad fan movie, with lazy writing, where story doesn't make any sense and the Alien series would end up in the same place where Terminator movies are today (each movie is a sequel to T2... so bad).

    I love Sigourney, she's my favourite actress (mainly because of non-alien roles in Snow Cake, Copycat, Galaxy Quest, Death and the Maiden, A Map of the World, The Girl in the Park, Imaginary Heroes...), she's always very passionate about new projects, so no surprise she endorsed Blomkamp's idea but she also co-produced the 3rd and 4th movie and she must take the responsibility for where the story went.

    Alien trilogy and Ripley's story ended perfectly with Alien³.  You can still do some kind of alternative version of Resurrection I guess if you need to bring another version of Ripley back but why would you do it when Ripley 8' story can be concluded without stupidly destroying previous chapters.
    I say either do it right and respect previous movies or don't do it at all - Ripley died on Fury 161 and Ripley 8 lives somewhere in France - this story ends here.

    Don't reboot. That would be so lame. Just write a good story with new original characters. You have entire galaxy to explore in Alien universe, just use a bit of creative imagination.

    BTW there is a kind of sequel to Alien series with Ripley and played by Sigourney (OK this isn't quite serious but she's Ripley here, believe or not): https://youtu.be/s4X8pwE2tok
  14. Janek
    Quote from: Jeanbunny on Jun 14, 2020, 02:37:53 AM
    Ripley AND Hicks deserve a happy ending-- TOGETHER. With Newt. Anything else is just bullshit.

    Not sure if trolling or not but ALIEN is a horror franchise.


    It amazes me that so many people (mainly on youtube) desperately want Blomkamp to write and direct Alien 5, the guy has not done anything noteworthy/successful since District 9 and his last feature film was in 2015.
  15. SM
    Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 14, 2020, 04:24:18 PM
    Quote from: SM on Jun 13, 2020, 10:37:59 PM
    Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 13, 2020, 03:54:24 PM
    Quote from: SM on Jun 13, 2020, 05:46:31 AM
    Giler thought cloning could be a way of Ripley coming back when Alien 3 came out.

    Yeah but that was said in jest during the wrap party.

    I don't think Giler ever seriously imagined that anyone would actually do it.

    Yeah, but my point was he wasn't averse to he idea.

    He was averse to what eventuated, but there you go...

    I don't know, Valaquen spoke about it a few years back and it sounded like Giler and Hill were joking about it at the party because it was such an utterly awful idea. I think Hill said something along the lines that Ripley's story was now finally over, no bringing her back, when Giler quipped that she can always be brought back via cloning, which was kind of a cheap sci-fi trope/cliché back then.

    Of course the joke was on them since they both got producers credits on Alien: Resurrection even though they had nothing to do with that film and even opposed it's making.

    Pretty sure Hill was also happy to be done with Alien after Alien 3 too.
  16. The Eighth Passenger
    Quote from: SM on Jun 13, 2020, 10:37:59 PM
    Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 13, 2020, 03:54:24 PM
    Quote from: SM on Jun 13, 2020, 05:46:31 AM
    Giler thought cloning could be a way of Ripley coming back when Alien 3 came out.

    Yeah but that was said in jest during the wrap party.

    I don't think Giler ever seriously imagined that anyone would actually do it.

    Yeah, but my point was he wasn't averse to he idea.

    He was averse to what eventuated, but there you go...

    I don't know, Valaquen spoke about it a few years back and it sounded like Giler and Hill were joking about it at the party because it was such an utterly awful idea. I think Hill said something along the lines that Ripley's story was now finally over, no bringing her back, when Giler quipped that she can always be brought back via cloning, which was kind of a cheap sci-fi trope/cliché back then.

    Of course the joke was on them since they both got producers credits on Alien: Resurrection even though they had nothing to do with that film and even opposed it's making.
  17. Necronomicon II
    Quote from: PVC on Jun 13, 2020, 03:56:41 PM
    Hi. Yes just make it happened.  Don't care what R Scott wants or thinks. He is just a jealous old man who thinks he is Alien's dad. He is not. He is just busy making 3 serie z movies a years.  Please make it happened with new actors , new writers , new producers   There's so much to do with that monster   New world or just lv426 ... Who cares. We want the xeno back.  Call it Alien 5 , Alien 2 and half , Reel Alien 3   Or what they want , but make it happened.   Regards

    Lmao, Ridley hasn't made any such self-assertions, sure he has said the original film was his "baby" but indeed to make a baby requires at least two parties, etc. Also, each film gets new writers and new thespians... The hell are you on about?  :D #yawn
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