Last week Sigourney Weaver dropped the news that long time Alien producer and co-writer Walter Hill had sent her a 50-page treatment that he had completed for Alien 5! Because Hill hasn’t actually been involved with any of the Alien films since Alien 3, the news of his treatment came as something of a shock.
Though she was the one to tell everyone about this new treatment, Sigourney actually seemed unsure of the prospect of returning to reprise Ripley, telling Empire that “Ridley has gone in a different direction. Maybe Ripley has done her bit. She deserves a rest.”
Now that news has been getting around of Hill’s Alien 5 treatment, Brandywine and Hill have reached out to SyFy Wire, suggesting that perhaps Sigourney is being a little on the modest side!
“Sigourney, as she has from the very beginning, is being too modest about her proven ability to pull off the idea — which is to tell a story that scares the pants off your date, kicks the ass of a new Xenomorph, and conducts a meditation on both the universe of the Alien franchise and the destiny of the character of Lt. Ellen Ripley.”
And though details on the actual direction of Walter Hill’s treatment are still unknown, Brandywine did provide SyFy Wire a quick image of the treatment. Alien vs. Predator Galaxy has also been provided with a copy of the title page that features a credit to not only Walter Hill, but also David Giler. This latest draft is actually from March of 2020, showing that work on the treatment didn’t end a year and a half ago after Weaver first received the treatment.
And in true Walter Hill and David Giler fashion, the title page features 2 quotes. One from Edgar Allan Poe regarding dreams, and another from William Tecumseh Sherman that simply states “war is hell.”
Dreams are also mentioned at the top of the title page, with a play on the famous Alien tagline, that “in space no one can you dream.” Given the prevalence of dreams on the title-page alone, is it this an indication that Hill and Giler’s Alien 5 would have written away Alien 3 and Resurrection as cryosleep dreams?
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Wait, did Disney do something based? What timeline is this?
When we first heard about this pitch, I got the impression that Sigourney shot it down because she wasn't impressed with it. That may have happened as well, but it's good to know where Disney stands on the issue.
Good
Interesting. Would be curious to see what was in this treatment/draft, for sure. I do agree with moving on from Ripley, though.
What's also interesting is that his pitch predates Disney; I thought it came afterwards, but after going back and looking back at the timeframe Sigourney was talking about in the first post of this thread, yeah, this definitely would have been written before the acquisition fully went through. I guess Fox must have really been fielding Alien pitches before their acquisition, huh? This, Blomkamp's, Hawley's, and even Fede's pitch to Ridley Scott goes back to the Fox days.
So Walter's claiming Disney has no interest in more Ripley.
I completely agree.
Ripley's sacrifice in Alien3 is diminished when she is brought back, a la Alien Resurrection.
Say more tho, post it anonymously or something.
Then somehow the queen is "unfrozen" and comes back to her original form and starts laying eggs and wreaking havok. Due to Ripley8's proximity and her telepathic abilities, she is dragged closer and closer to the location of the queen. Eventually her mind becomes twisted by the queen's presence and she might or might not turn on the human inhabitants, while also fighting the queen for supremacy.
By the end of it the queen is defeated, but Ripley8 is transformed, both physically and psihically and her former human allies have no choice but to bring her down, in a last ditch effort to rid the galaxy of the xeno presence forever. So you could then say that Ripley lived long enough to become the villain.
Or she ends up getting pregnant! How and what would the baby/alien be like...
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Breathe on the nostrils of a horse and he'll be yours for life.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Riddles isn't so passionate about the Alien
As me and you
I get Starcraft vibes from this.
https://i.ibb.co/WyrRY9t/gif.gif
I don't know, most people seem to have not liked it when he returned to Terminator.
I say let the Cameron do his thing. If he actually cares enough about the series to want to participate in some way, I cannot see any downside to that. It can only be a box full of good inside.
Not yet.
Having Fassbender and Weaver go toe to toe in some acting sparring would be amazing.
Ultimately my ending would have them ruling in "hell" together. Both of them naked, wrapped up in one another, sitting in a Giger-esque throne room.
BUT, with good writing a Ripley 8 vs David showdown would be fascinating.
Even though I would expect a V that tied in both the prequels and the weakest of the old movies together to be fairly bad without some hallelujah writing in it.
Could all be a pitch to gauge fan interest by Disney. Undercover marketing.
There is no way to avoid the Golden Path.
To further what I said. David 8 is on "Planet Giger". Bring back the Space Jockeys. Convey that the Engineers stole their tech.
Have a circle of creator beings (one of which is the Jockey) who are styled differently but with a similar aesthetic like the Cenobites are in Hellraiser.
End both series in ONE movie.
Good point. It will also save us from the forced path of the "Alien prequel".
Ripley 8 travels to a planet where David 8 has been doing his experiments for centuries (or whatever amount of time is necessary for the timelines to converge).
Interestingly, he is followed by Alien Covenant concept artist Wayne Haag.
He mentions Scott in the comments:
https://twitter.com/tprstly/status/1305129784259862528
Also some Alien Nostromo art on his page although this is clearly labelled "fan art" so I don't think it has any connection:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhyseJWX0AA8etl?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhysfpbXgAE_P2M?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhysiGuXYAARD8C?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhysjdWXYAESZJb?format=jpg&name=large
I very much doubt any of this, and I'm sure it is all conjecture on that guy's part. I don't know who he is and he doesn't seem to have any relation to any of this. But now there's a small part of me almost wondering if Ridley has some alternate Aliens sequel written by Walter Hill that also uses continues David's up his sleeve.
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Have no idea what this means. Seems an established futurist writer is teasing some connection to Alien V (maybe?). Could be just a freelance consultation on Brandywine's part or something.
And yet it is even more silly that they would build a station like this so close to the derelict.
If we accept the Cold Forge as canon, then the company clearly has found the aliens elsewhere...