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Alien 5 Will Be Delayed By Avatar Sequels and The Gone World

Alien 5 will be delayed by the Avatar sequels and The Gone World according to new comments by Sigourney Weaver. Yesterday, Entertainment Weekly published an interview with Sigourney Weaver in the lead up to the 30th anniversary reunion at San Diego Comic Con.

Most sites are focusing on the comments about giving Ripley an ending (“it’s a great story and it’s satisfying to me to give this woman an ending“), something that was actually reported on three months ago or what appears to be a mis-interpretated quote regarding Alien 5 exploring the “Alien’s motivations” (“the script itself has so much in it that’s so original, but also really satisfies the, I would say, the primal needs of the aliens“).

However, there’s a comment in there that few seem to be focusing on and that’s that it maybe sometime before Alien 5 begins filming…

“Now that we’re waiting for that [Alien: Covenant], I have a couple of Avatars to do and Neill has The Gone World,” Weaver says. “So we’ll have to see what happens when we get back, when those projects are over.”

Alien 5 will be delayed by Avatar sequels and The Gone World according to a new interview with Sigourney Weaver. Alien 5 Will Be Delayed By Avatar Sequels and The Gone World

Alien 5 will be delayed by Avatar sequels and The Gone World according to a new interview with Sigourney Weaver.

Ridley Scott had always said it was his intention to film Alien: Covenant first and we had assumed that work would begin on Neill Blomkamp’s Alien not long after. This had previously been speculated to be so that Fox wasn’t saturating the market and having 2 Alien related films coming out in quick succession. However, it’s possible that had that request not been made then we’d have already seen Alien 5.

Well, we have a great script. Fox asked us to delay so Ridley Scott could shoot his [second] Prometheus movie. That was too bad because we would have already done it by now.”

It is possible that Weaver maybe able to start work on Alien 5 after Avatar 2 is done but Avatar 2 isn’t due for release until December 2018. Weaver did say she hoped it wouldn’t be too long though.

“I hope it won’t be a few [years]. I hope it’ll be a couple. But we’ll see. Yeah.”

With both James Cameron and Sigourney Weaver attending the reunion panel, we may hopefully get some more information about the timing. Blomkamp’s The Gone World currently has no release date set. Thanks to Omega Underground for the news.



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  1. BishopShouldGo
    Yeah, what Kimarhi said makes the most sense, and is sort of what I assumed anyway. Like really, why was everyone expecting Michael and Sigourney to be jumping around, doing pushups, shooting everything in sight?
  2. Kimarhi
    I think they might want to move into a similar direction to what Blomkamp is proposing, but then do it without the Ripley, Hicks, and Newt characters.




    OR go in it with the Episode VII mentality.  Give the characters significant roles in the story, just not action roles, then pass the torch off to the new actors.

    I'm fine either way.  I think it would've been a fun what if, but if what ifs don't happen, that's cool too.
  3. BishopShouldGo
    And I really don't see Hicks as the co-lead anyway. You have Sigourney, the face of the franchise, and some A-lister playing Newt. Similar billing as Alien Resurrection. You populate the rest of the cast with good actors, and add Biehn, and wa'lah. Hugh Jackman as a villainous Weyland executive here, Sharlto Copley as an android there, etc.
  4. Scorpio
    its over. they are not going to release alien movies so close to each other , and it looks like they will be too similar, as much as fans like us want to see it i dont think the non fans and majority of people are going to be drawn to an action flim with a 70 year old sigourney weaver and now C-list  Michael Biehn :( unless they cgi their faces to look younger how are they going to do it !? a 70 year old running around with a flamethrower? possible love story between them !? unless they reduce their roles to  play cameos and  get someone like jenifer lawrence to take over it is not going to happen.

    The Force Awakens did the exact thing.
  5. tvg
    its over. they are not going to release alien movies so close to each other , and it looks like they will be too similar, as much as fans like us want to see it i dont think the non fans and majority of people are going to be drawn to an action flim with a 70 year old sigourney weaver and now C-list  Michael Biehn :( unless they cgi their faces to look younger how are they going to do it !? a 70 year old running around with a flamethrower? possible love story between them !? unless they reduce their roles to  play cameos and  get someone like jenifer lawrence to take over it is not going to happen.
  6. System Apollo
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    It is kind of sad the best Alien related media we've had recently has been Isolation, a videogame.

    - Ooh I disagree considerably there. The first AVP film is great while not the dark piece many seem to have wanted. I don't know about the first two but the latest AVP game is definitely the best related game we've seen in recent years. 'Alien: Isolation' is brilliant stylistically for the most part but goes off the rails in the latter third of the game, ruining the story and dragging on.
    I always felt that after the AvP movie all the media under the same license lost its credibility.
  7. CelticPred97
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    It is kind of sad the best Alien related media we've had recently has been Isolation, a videogame.

    - Ooh I disagree considerably there. The first AVP film is great while not the dark piece many seem to have wanted. I don't know about the first two but the latest AVP game is definitely the best related game we've seen in recent years. 'Alien: Isolation' is brilliant stylistically for the most part but goes off the rails in the latter third of the game, ruining the story and dragging on.
  8. Corporal Hicks
    So the guys at Perfect Organism Pod believe that Alien 5 has secretly begun production already. Their latest pod directly states this was their thinking based on Aaron's (Corporal Hicks) posting on their FB page about Weaver's comments regarding delays due to Avatar 2, etc.

    Give it a listen.

    It's plausible however I'm more convinced Weaver is genuinely and strategically saying these things to push Fox into getting the ball rolling.

    I've not listened to their latest episode but they have said in comments that they have actually heard from several sources that they've been told it was happening. But then they've also said it's just speculation. I still found it doubtful that they'd do it secret because...well, what would be the point? Other than maybe trying not to get any leaks out but they managed pretty well with Covenant so that wouldn't really be a massive concern.

    Considering the immense support the project got when Blomkamp came out publicly with the concepts (and I still think that support was a factor in Fox even greenlighting the film in the first place), I think they'd have been better continuing to ride off that support which still seems to be there in the bigger world.

    however I'm more convinced Weaver is genuinely and strategically saying these things to push Fox into getting the ball rolling.

    Same. I think she's trying to drum up those very same people that probably got the project moving in the first place.
  9. FiorinaFury161
    For me, it's Morse's curiously posh, "f**k!" after Andrews is taken :laugh:

    Classic!  :D

    Also, it's a bit delightful how we're talking about our love of Alien3 in a thread about a movie that's disowned it.  :P
    The Assembly Cut will always be my favorite film of the series. I love Morse's overall lines in the film, brillantly played.

    My favorite scene/moment is easily when Ripley + 85 are in the EEV and discover Ripley has the most horrific being in the universe gestating inside her. The atmosphere is just pure terror, sadness and despair, but Ripley accepts it, showing how unbelievably badass she is. The Bait and Chase sequence/ending is a definite second.
  10. BishopShouldGo
    So their words are speculation. Just like anyone else's.

    I get it. I want Alien 5 badly too. But it's not secretly in production. However I do believe if Weaver wasn't always bringing it up its traction would die.
  11. Prez
    So the guys at Perfect Organism Pod believe that Alien 5 has secretly begun production already. Their latest pod directly states this was their thinking based on Aaron's (Corporal Hicks) posting on their FB page about Weaver's comments regarding delays due to Avatar 2, etc.

    Give it a listen.

    It's plausible however I'm more convinced Weaver is genuinely and strategically saying these things to push Fox into getting the ball rolling.
  12. Kimarhi
    I love Alien 3.  I rate it just behind the second movie and thought it was a decent way to end a trilogy because it wasn't expected and wasn't the all tidy and neat gift wrapped endings we get in every other franchise.

    HOWEVER, since I don't really believe anything can right the wrongs of Alien Res, Prometheus, and two AvP movies, I'm pretty much down with anything.

    I say bring it on, you'll still like the original movies no matter what happens.




    It is kind of sad the best Alien related media we've had recently has been Isolation, a videogame. 
  13. The Alien Predator
    I love that line as well, HuDa, I laugh every time.  :laugh:

    I also love the line where 85 is like "well I'm all outta ideas," and Morse was all "that doesn't surprise me."

    And the "you f**king scared me SHITLESS!"

    And that guy when he finds the jammed door and is like "GUUUUYS..." cracks me up...

    There's too many to list.  :laugh:
  14. The Alien Predator
    BEST NEWS EVER!! NO ALIEN 5 fan garbage!

    I thought you disowned Alien 3 and wanted the negs destroyed?

     :D

    Seriously though, I wish Fincher would lighten up a bit. Despite its flaws, there's so much beauty in Alien3! I can't think of a horror film since that was so artfully shot.

    Anyway, back to topic...

    I agree. Out of all the films, Alien 3 had some of the funniest characters. I freakin' love the extended edition.  :P

    And everytime I read your name, I read it in Andrews' voice. I can't help it lol.

    And just now I finally get why Eighth Passenger said "I thought you disowned Alien 3"... I just checked Alien 3 out on Wikipedia randomly and noticed "Fincher has disowned the film" while skimming the first few paragraphs.

    Oh the shame of ignorance... it burns!
  15. RakaiThwei
    RakaiThwei + BishopShouldGo - I don't know about 'Godzilla' but I'm not sure how 'Halloween' is at all non-linear. There's an original series and a remake series but they both run linearly.

    Not necessarily the thread for this, so you could PM me if you wanna get deeper into this.. BUT I'll answer it here. Even in Halloween's original series, there are two continuities-- you have the Halloween IV - VI timeline, and the H20 timeline which ignores IV-VI completely and apparently, a script writer or director of H20 had said IV - VI are an alternate timeline. So even the original series isn't at all linear.

    Not at all. "f**k continuity, let's just do whatever" is a very recent concept, at least at the scale we're seeing.

    How recent are we talking? Because... I could think of several films going back from the 80s and 90s which more or less does this. But if you're talking about in the scale we're seeing in... Mmmm... I'll give you that.

    And Alien-Predator, I'd love to respond to your post BUT I just feel like we would be taking the thread off-topic, since I want to really better respond to you, so you're probably better off actually PMing me about it.
  16. CelticPred97
    RakaiThwei + BishopShouldGo - I don't know about 'Godzilla' but I'm not sure how 'Halloween' is at all non-linear. There's an original series and a remake series but they both run linearly.

    SiL - I agree.

    HuDaFuK - I don't think that's a fair comment about superhero movies generally. It's a comment about the MCU and one I agree with by the way. The MCU is so afraid to kill anyone off and when it does... it doesn't.
    As for 'X-Men: The Last Stand' I love that it killed off characters (not necessarily in the ways that it did) but I don't like that movie overall. I find it boring basically but can understand liking it.
    'Alien: Resurrection' though didn't resurrect everybody, just Ripley and despite the fact that I dislike that that's a money-grab I did like the way that story was done (in terms of the resurrection). That film is flawed but I can watch it mostly for its resurrection storyline so while it's easy to just write it off as a money-grab it was interestingly done, I feel.

    TheSmashingTesticles - While the very premise of 'Alien 5' is licensed fan fiction and I expect it will try to be fan service-y, I think 'The Predator' has a much higher chance of failing as a movie. At the very least, I assume 'Alien 5' will be in some ways interesting whereas 'The Predator' could be just another Predator movie that's kind of forgettable and quite filled with fan service. If Arnold Schwarzenegger is cast, that's my hopes gone for that movie. To say it's going to surpass it by hundreds of miles seems ridiculous to me (unless you're all for cheap action movies).
  17. Corporal Hicks
    And who are we going to believe, some unnamed, shady insider passing along information to a couple of fans or Sigourney Weaver's (who I suspect will executive produce) public statements.

    The fact that it had been comments coming from Weaver (and straight-forward ones) was what took me back a little at the instance it was wrong. We all know what it's like having those sources you can't divulge though. We'll find out eventually though.

    I might not be a fan of the concept but I wouldn't mind it if they were filming secretly.
  18. The Eighth Passenger
    I doubt it. If they are so sure then they should at least be able to provide proof. And why would Blomkamp film it under a cloak of secrecy anyway?

    Yeah, I don't see why they'd do it secretly. The project seems to have done really well feeding off the public support (possibly even being the reason it was greenlit) so that seems odd to me.

    Exactly. It could be that their source confused Blomkamp's next film, The Gone World for Alien 5. Gone World will probably be going into production soon and it also happens to be a Fox property as well. And who are we going to believe, some unnamed, shady insider passing along information to a couple of fans or Sigourney Weaver's (who I suspect will executive produce) public statements.

    I remember while they were busy filming Chappie, one newspaper erroneously reported that Chappie was just a cover name and that Blomkamp was actually filming a District 9 sequel since it was being filmed in the same place that D9 was. Of course we never got that D9 sequel, did we?
  19. The Alien Predator
    Because every major franchise has a linear path.

    I could name a few which don't. This answer... doesn't answer my question.

    So I'm hoping someone like Alien Predator or PRJ_1990 answers for me.

    SiL has summed up some great points.

    I think diverging timelines works a bit better in the EU, and technically it's sort of there. I mentioned to you once that the Hish books are basically their own things and unrelated to the Alien vs Predator universe because the backstory is so different. Humans reverse engineer alien tech and they have also made Earth almost inhospitable. And this is 2107 I think?

    Meanwhile Aliens as of 2179 shows Earth as perfectly fine, plus some novels were set on Earth past 2107 and humans lived on it just fine. And the new novels mention no reverse engineering, in fact we don't meet our first aliens (Arcturians) until at least the 2160's.

    Those are just a few examples of why I think multiple continuities are a bit easier to accept in an expanded universe. And frankly, even those don't really bring back dead characters, the majority of them (especially the new stuff now) try to fit into established lore. They went so far as to change Newt and Hicks after Alien 3 and Resurrection came out so as to keep the stories relevant to the film universe.

    The whole point with a singular timeline, Rakai, is to tell a story. Additional stories literally expand the universe as a whole. You may think it is limiting, but I respectfully disagree because just one universe is limitless. And most of the stories are set in the 22nd and 23rd centuries, so they have virtually the entire 3rd Millennium to cover. Not to mention our history too with all the Predator encounters which could go as far back as even prehistory.

    it's as versatile as Assassin's Creed, you can take this franchise to any era of time without having to diverge timelines or make things irrelevant. The other point of Alien is it's a dark and gritty universe where literally no one is safe.

    She's the main character? Be worried, she could die just as any other character did so far! Might not happen in this movie... might be the next one!

    As opposed to what SiL said, "don't worry, she'll be back."

    Also many fans hate the idea of making AvP like Star Trek. This is something I've seen people (even you occasionally) use, where they would say "it's too much like Star Trek", "this peace conference between Predators and humans is too Trekky", "this translator, it makes AvP more like Trek..."

    Well, Alien and Predator lack something Star Trek has in spades = official and in-universe diverging timelines.

    I think this should be left out of the movies. Let the films have a proper timeline, a proper history for us to enjoy and catalogue. The EU isn't as "in your face" about diverging from something established in a prior story. And those that diverged too much weren't as well received. Who actually remembers... no, who KNOWS of the Hish besides hardcore fans? Yet even the most casual people know "Yautja". Heck, I got the Alien vs Pinball game, and noticed "YAU - TJA" written on the pinball table in the AvP map.

    That's because the stories with the Yautja are much more beloved and known about due to the fact they had a respect for established lore and fit in quite well.

    It's not like the new ST films where out of nowhere, an Engineer ship just comes back from the 41st millennium and f**ks up the whole current flow of time.  :laugh:

    Also, look at the reaction people have to "The Predator" and compare it to the reactions of "Alien 5". It seems obvious that the majority want a singular timeline. Black says he will continue this as a sequel because there's so much to explore in what's established. Whereas Bomkamp just wants to give his version of a "true" ending to his favourite character.

    It's acceptable for Godzilla, Star Trek, TMNT and Terminator because those have in-universe time travel, in-universe paradoxes, in-universe official diverging timelines. I'm not a fan of the concept, but I can accept it in those franchises (and I like those listed as well, I grew up with Terminator and Godzilla).

    But Alien and Predator are grounded, pseudo-realistic settings like Assassin's Creed. We have yet to find a diverging timeline in real life lol. Not every story needs one because frankly, just "one" is enough. Just one can make this franchise bigger than two or three.

    So, that's my essay on why I think one timeline is enough.  :)
  20. HuDaFuK
    For a horror franchise it means nothing matters. Death is the main driving force in these films -- things trying to kill you, while you try not to die. That's completely irrelevant if you're just going to drag people back to life like literally nothing happened.

    Yeah, this. One of the reasons I hate so many comics and superhero movies is because they just keep bringing people back to life, thereby making the consequences of death utterly irrelevant.

    I loved X-Men: The Last Stand because (much like Alien 3) it had the balls to off major characters and prove there are real consequences involved. It gave the story added weight. But then they just went and resurrected everybody in the sequels. It's just lame.
  21. RakaiThwei
    Yeah, I'll be waiting for proof of such a rule book.

    In the meantime, thank you SiL, for providing me with your answer. I understand that fans want things and events in these films to count but this is my personal opinion, and solely mine... I just feel like as if having choices aren't a bad thing. Again, just my opinion because well... this is fiction, and Fox is going to do what they like with the franchise. Sure, not a lot of people are going to agree with their decisions but.. it's the nature of the beast, I suppose.

    Not everyone's going to be pleased but as it stands... it's going to be a wait and see. So far, if this movie is going to keep on being delayed, worse case scenario? The movie is scrapped.
  22. BishopShouldGo
    The respective studios of Halloween and Godzilla have confirmed that the canons are linear, despite the convoluted film plots.

    Actually, I wasn't even going to bring those up but as for Halloween and Godzilla's continuity... well, that's not entirely true. Both film series do have multiple continuities and fans can pick and choose which ones they want. They're all equally true.

    I've become disillusioned about canon, and in my opinion, a singular line is actually a limiting thing. I think divergences are what make things interesting and fans would be able to choose which storyline they want to follow and not be invalidated. I mean I'm just looking at the statements which Weaver and Blomkamp have been saying since December of 2014 and so far, it seems like we're getting a divergent thing.

    If both of Ripley's endings are true, and fans can pick which ending they want, what's the bad in that?

    Because it's in the rule book. "No non-linear narratives of any nature."
  23. SiL
    For a horror franchise it means nothing matters. Death is the main driving force in these films -- things trying to kill you, while you try not to die. That's completely irrelevant if you're just going to drag people back to life like literally nothing happened.

    Also makes us much more susceptible to getting shit films. This one sucks? don't worry, we'll just ignore it in six months. That one sucks too? Man, it's almost like we know we don't actually need to try. With enough marketing we'll still make a profit by the time people realised they've been had.
  24. RakaiThwei
    The respective studios of Halloween and Godzilla have confirmed that the canons are linear, despite the convoluted film plots.

    Actually, I wasn't even going to bring those up but as for Halloween and Godzilla's continuity... well, that's not entirely true. Both film series do have multiple continuities and fans can pick and choose which ones they want. They're all equally true.

    I've become disillusioned about canon, and in my opinion, a singular line is actually a limiting thing. I think divergences are what make things interesting and fans would be able to choose which storyline they want to follow and not be invalidated. I mean I'm just looking at the statements which Weaver and Blomkamp have been saying since December of 2014 and so far, it seems like we're getting a divergent thing.

    If both of Ripley's endings are true, and fans can pick which ending they want, what's the bad in that?
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