As Ridley Scott continues to make the rounds, promoting his upcoming Matt Damon science-fiction film, The Martian, Scott has been talking more about the Prometheus franchise. In an interview with German publication Film Flutter, Ridley Scott has talked specifically about the future of the Prometheus franchise and the possibility of another 2 sequels:
“The whole point is to explain the Alien franchise and how and why the creation of the aliens. I always saw the Alien as a type of biological warfare. For me, the original spaceship that I call the croissant, a warship that contains these biomechanoids creatures, which is all about destruction.”
When asked if the Prometheus films will tie directly into the Alien films, Ridley Scott responded: “Yes, but it will not be the next. It will be in the next but Prometheus or perhaps even in a later, before we are in a sense back in the Alien franchise.”
The Deacon closely resembles a form of Alien. In the original script it was an Alien born from an Engineer called the Ultramorph.
So it would certainly look like Ridley Scott has bigger plans for the Prometheus franchise. What do you guys and girls reckon to this news? Thanks to Bloody Disgusting and Joel Foster for the tip and to community member Wmmvrrvrrmm for the link to the actual interview.
Agreed. The franchise is part of the alien franchise because engineer = space jockey. Which had a hand in our creation and now want to destroy us.
As such a movie (probably the third in the series) eventually tieing into Alien as an (xenomorph) ORIGON story would be great. Ridley has said so in the past. With Prometheus 2 explaining the black goo in the temple.
Sounds great.
I'm not doubting that this is true, but then again something could potentially change at the same time.. but I definitely see this as true for now, but none of the movie sites such as IMDB or even Wikipedia mention Biehn's quote.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/08/15/michael-biehn-optimistic-about-neill-blomkamps-alien-5/
Then Wikipedia and IMDB need to update their pages and mention this.
Assuming this is all still true of course.
It's a little more than that. He's said (and I know it was him, I was there) that he'd been talking to Blomkamp about the film. He also confirmed that Blomkamp had told him the events of Alien 3 and Resurrection were being ignored.
I can't wait to see alien: paradise lost.
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/prometheus/37099/prometheus-ridley-scott-to-direct-all-three-sequels
Michael Biehn, who's only connection to the movie is a hoax Twitter post saying he's been cast that was immediately debunked...
Wikipedia and IMDB need to reference this video and mention this..
Having that said, while Biehn has mentioned this, we really don't know for certain but many signs point to it. And with the sudden change in the Prometheus sequel... it might as well be a toss up. Maybe that Bloody-Disgusting "insider" who said it was early to tell may have some weight in their claim.
Michael Biehn has stated that Neill Blomkamp's movie disregards 3 and 4, that we know so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmUH_eA9VGE
We know virtually nothing about the story, let alone enough to make a judgement call on whether it's "wet fan-fiction" or not.
The Prometheus news is only of interest out of concern it might kill the Blomkamp movie. It may or may not turn out well, but so long as it gets a chance Ridley can do whatever he wants. I can just ignore the Prometheus stuff, like all the trashy Alien vs Predator movies, Alien 3 and so on. I can't imagine how good the reviews would have to be to make me see another Prometheus movie.
I hope Blomhack get shafted by the studio, cause retconning Alien 3 in favor of wet fan-fiction is sacrilege.
Finally someone said it.
I do.
And as HuDa says. On both points.
I've said it needed work. But it's a far better script than what Lindelof produced.
Still better than the film we got. It makes sense, for one.
And none of us have ever claimed Spaihts' script didn't need more work. But when they gave it to Lindelof he made it worse, not better.
But when they so specifically altered the concept of the original film so that it would be its own independent series and wouldn't be linked to Alien, suddenly reversing that call now kinda smacks of desperation.
Perhaps he's been convinced otherwise. Or it was more about the visual image of the Alien than anything else. It can still lead more directly into Alien without using the creature itself.
But I do see where you're coming from though.
I'd have to disagree. The script is far better than the film.
Agreed. I'm all for creative freedom but only to a point. At some point he needs to make up his mind on whether or not he wants it to be alien related or not. Stop going back and forth... it's an alien film.. it's not an alien film..... sh*t or get off the pot. Plain and simple.
Personally I think he's just saying he wants to tie it into an alien film again due to fox green lighting Blomkamp. He was over the whole alien thing and I believe he was even quoted as saying he was done with that story. Then once news of Blomkamp getting green lit for another alien film surfaces he suddenly finds a lost love for the franchise again... and wants Blomkamp to edit his story because it may interfere with what he has planned for the franchise. Sorry you had your chance for another addition to the franchise and YOU decided you were done with it. Move on.
Yeah, the reporting here is EXACTLY the reporting for the last film where it went from it being an alien film to not being an alien film from interview to interview.
So with this i stop caring about these films and will likely put them on the bottom on the Alien\Pred franchise.
That's right, i will put AVP on top of these films.
I thought that stopped being the point when you decided Prometheus wasn't gonna be an Alien prequel and was gonna be its own, separate thing...?
Ok... but still happy with what we got in prometheus vs that.
Well Ridley daydreaming plans for a 3 or 4 film series is somewhat worrying considering the first film was average at best and told very little story.
I'll stand by my 130 million dollar prologue comment any day.
"Who created them?" Unanswerable. It's just a question of belief. It should be left at that.
If only Ridley didn't think beyond Prometheus 2 he might just focus on ONE great story!
I wish more directors took the Christopher Nolan approach of just making one GREAT standalone story - The Prestige, Inception, Instellar etc - none of those movies need a sequel. If Ridley Scott developed Interstellar he probably would have kept half of it for a sequel (I love Interstellar by the way, don't want to derail the thread by getting into the pros and cons of it or other Nolan movies thanks).
Don't f#%k it up!
Spaiht's script was a much more solid piece of work than the final product. It needed polishing - as tmjhur says, removing the direct tie-ins to Alien - but it was a far more cohesive piece of work.
As long as the script is strong and not too obscure it'll be okay. Maybe somewhere in between Spaihts and Lindofs scripts, a decent middle ground
Would have made for a much more entertaining and cohesive movie. All they had to do really was change the planet name so as not to make it a direct prequel to Alien. The dialogue was much more science heavy and the pacing far superior.
Having said that, the engineers were always tall white skinned dudes in Spaights draft and the geologist with the electronic map always got lost in the cave.......
Honestly I'm happy that Ridley outright said that the alien is a biological weapon and that Prometheus is the story of what drives men to create monsters. This is f**king beautiful news if I do say so.
Ridley is only ever as good as the screenplays he develops and obviously he's quite bad at that.