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New Prometheus Images & Audio Puzzle

Fox has released a couple of new images today via the New York Times. The pictures aren’t very revealing but they are definitely worth a look.

In a more interesting note, Fox has also released a new ‘Audio Puzzle’ today. It’s a very intriguing audio which appears to feature one of the characters being attacked by some sort of Alien creature. According to the news site were Fox published the audio, “your assistance is needed” to decode the message. If you’re curious to know what the audio says, please check out the comments on this post. Be aware of spoilers.

You can listen to the audio and see the new images below:

 



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  1. RustiSwordz
    Going back to the Milburn/ Cobra hugger audio clip. I noticed something watching the new trailer. The quick clip of the cobrahugger vanishing into Milburn's suit. You can see acid smoke coming up from his arm. I think that confirms it Milburn is acid-face melt man. It gets into his helmet peeing acid and thats Milburns chips bought for him...
  2. Qwertify
    Quote from: BioMechanical on May 06, 2012, 06:43:26 PM
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 06, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
    Someone said that - in a potential review somewhere that - when the humans enter the temple - they are the ones that are treated as very alien and strange, and potentially dangerous.

    I highly doubt that. I think they think of us as very infearier and weak. But I'm sure they view us as a slight threat. Lol.

    There is no doubt that they think of us as inferior - but what the person route kind of caught my attention, because if they don't know who we are or what we are, and if would could be a potential threat left alone, then what are we to make of the starmaps on Earth? If it wasn't them, or no one of them that left behind the influence, then the visit is highly unexpected.
  3. Qwertify
    Someone said that - in a potential review somewhere that - when the humans enter the temple - they are the ones that are treated as very alien and strange, and potentially dangerous.
  4. Tangakkai
    Quote from: OmegaZilla on May 06, 2012, 06:01:59 PM
    I love how some people say 'this movie is using fresh takes and ideas' when a lot of things shown so far suggest (and may or may not confirmed in the actual product) the use of some of the oldest sci-fi tropes. This is another one -- humans turning into monsters? Sounds anywhere near familiar?
    Maybe that is the point -- Scott's take on some old archetypes (something Roland Emmerich knows about).

    I'm a huge fan of Scott's work... and I think Prometheus will be a real great sci-fi flick...

    But many things I've seen so far don't seem that groundbreaking and new as people say... especially when they're saying how original this take on von Däniken's theories are... or the cliché of the hardened "suit - person"...

    Doon't get me wrong, I still have very high hope for this movie and since it's Ridley, I'm sure we'll get an amazing movie... but to see things like "...30 years in the making" and stuff like that just makes it seem so blown out of proportion...


    Quote from: BioMechanical on May 06, 2012, 06:10:09 PM
    Well there is a zombie craze going around. Nothing like one if your mates ripping you apart and chomping on you, in this case space zombies.. Give the people what the want. Lol.

    that's another thing worrying me... so many current trends can be spotted in the movie... it's not bad per se, but since it's Ridley's first sci-fi movie in a long time, I want to see some fresh stuff... something that could rejuvenate sci-fi...fine: show us zombies, show us terraforming gods, show us facehugging creatures, show us acid, show us aliens coming out of humans... but please show me something that is as memorable as the chestburster was in 1979 as well...
  5. OmegaZilla
    I love how some people say 'this movie is using fresh takes and ideas' when a lot of things shown so far suggest (and may or may not confirmed in the actual product) the use of some of the oldest sci-fi tropes. This is another one -- humans turning into monsters? Sounds anywhere near familiar?
    Maybe that is the point -- Scott's take on some old archetypes (something Roland Emmerich knows about).
  6. Tangakkai
    Quote from: metalos on May 05, 2012, 03:36:47 PM
    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2Fse36om.jpg&hash=16e2ac6e45ca9b2dc96468648c64a230453f54f2
    Shaw got the "baby". Probably from Millburn.
    Edit: That is not Shaw, but Ford.

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.tinypic.com%2F2ex4tar.jpg&hash=bee073aec115cdab6220d86b9117b35d395504f6
    Mutated Fifield. I think that guy, who is stand face to face with one of the Prometheus crew member, whos face is reflect on his helmet is Fifield, and after he back, he is start to slaughtering his mate.

    so it's true... they mutate after coming in contact with this biomechanic lifeform pattern... I'm not really liking this idea...
  7. RustiSwordz
    It sounds like the creature gets into the guys helmet. You can hear the dull thudding of something rattling around . I think the cobrahugger gets into his helmet and thrashes around. I get an awful feeling we see this from Milburns POV. This beast I think forces its way into his mouth while its peeing acid all over the place afterFifeld cuts the thing and acid shoots out. Poor Milburn gets his face and possibly some of his skull burnt off and much of his suit. Fifield gets only a glancing shot of acid.
  8. Gash
    That audio is quite an uncomfortable thing to listen too. I must admit this film is starting to scare me already.

    Kane lost consciousness because of the alien atmosphere getting to him once his suit was compromised, and he was overcome quickly, but if he'd had Dallas and Lambert with him in a breathable atmosphere his fate would have sounded a lot like that.

    The panic and the near crying with pain and horror is what makes it so unnerving, especially raw and without music.
  9. RustiSwordz
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 05, 2012, 01:58:59 PM
    Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 05, 2012, 01:51:03 PM
    Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 04, 2012, 06:27:07 PMSo others have to see the very jagged Xeno-like teeth where the mouth is right?

    :P

    If you look closely at the pixels, you can see a second mouth inside that mouth.

    Spoiler

    Thats whats left of his skull after he had it burnt off!
  10. Promethean Fire
    Quote from: metalos on May 05, 2012, 03:36:47 PM
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    Shaw got the "baby". Probably from Millburn.


    Is that Shaw?  Looks more like Ford to me.  Note the Bob style haircut.

    I'm fairly certain that Shaw is impregnated with an alien creature after having sex with Holloway.

    I've got a feeling that after Holloway is infected, his health, somehow miraculously regenerates.  His broken arm heals etc.  This will more than likely will be the key which causes Vickers to revive Weyland from cryo.

    What they are yet unaware of, is what is lurking deep inside Holloway's newly mutated DNA...
  11. metalos
    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2Fse36om.jpg&hash=16e2ac6e45ca9b2dc96468648c64a230453f54f2
    Shaw got the "baby". Probably from Millburn.
    Edit: That is not Shaw, but Ford.

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.tinypic.com%2F2ex4tar.jpg&hash=bee073aec115cdab6220d86b9117b35d395504f6
    Mutated Fifield. I think that guy, who is stand face to face with one of the Prometheus crew member, whos face is reflect on his helmet is Fifield, and after he back, he is start to slaughtering his mate.
  12. Promethean Fire
    I think it plays out like this -

    Fifield, Milburn and Holloway rouse the Snakehugger from the black oily depths.

    Milburn being the curious botanist, gets closer to it.  Fifield is paranoid and scared to go near it.  Holloway is a douche jock and reaches out to touch it.  Snakehugger grabs onto his wrist and starts to slowly coil itself around his lower arm.  Holloway is, at first, fascinated.  He then tries to shake it loose.  It won't budge.  He then grabs at it.  It gets tighter and tighter.  He shouts for Fifield to try and prize it loose.  He won't go anywhere near it.  Milburn tries to help, but the creature gets tighter and tighter to the point where Holloway's arm breaks.  Now its serious.  Fifield has no choice but to help.  He removes a knife from his belt and cuts the creature, acid blood spurts from the wound onto his helmet.  Fifield stumbles back.  Milburn panics.  The creature, realising it is under attack, quickly reveals its head and, like a cobra, spits a huge glob of acid directly onto Milburn's helmet, which causes the glass to dissolve into his face.  The Snakehugger then writhes its way into Holloway's suit and burrows itself into his skin...
  13. ChrisPachi
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 05, 2012, 01:58:59 PM
    Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 05, 2012, 01:51:03 PM
    Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 04, 2012, 06:27:07 PMSo others have to see the very jagged Xeno-like teeth where the mouth is right?
    :P
    If you look closely at the pixels, you can see a second mouth inside that mouth.
    Spoiler
    PROOF.

    Spoiler
    Seriously, I have no idea where this thread is going.
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  14. Qwertify
    Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 05, 2012, 01:51:03 PM
    Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 04, 2012, 06:27:07 PMSo others have to see the very jagged Xeno-like teeth where the mouth is right?

    :P

    If you look closely at the pixels, you can see a second mouth inside that mouth.

    Spoiler
  15. Qwertify
    Quote from: bleau on May 05, 2012, 03:49:09 AM
    Who is it that gets acid burn, is it the mowhawk guy?

    I am sure that it is both Milburn and Fifield (mohawk guy) in the same scene. Others have varying opinions - like that the two helmet melting scenes are from two different parts of the movie.

    The person who gets severely burned is Milburn most likely, the guy with glasses. We say that because you can see he has a yellow name band above his head (something that Fifield doesn't have) and the person has glasses, something only Milburn wears.
  16. Darklighter89
    Anyone think that maybe Holloway or someone else came to meet up with them and thats when he is infected? Like how i think it goes down-

    Milburn is messing with Fifield tryin to coax him to come closer or something to check out the snake-thing, and Holloway comes by to check on them and gets grabbed. Milburn tries to keep Holloway calm, who's trying to get the others to help him get it off, with Fifield being adamant in not touching it. Finally he gets the courage to do it, and all hell breaks loose (literally).

    Short and sweet- snake gets cut, acid hits Milburn full on (melting his face) while Fifield gets grazed or something(infecting him slowly), snake crawls into Holloway and the shock of it all they forget that its in him.

    Idk thats just my opinion, i realize it has some loopholes but eh
  17. Qwertify
    Quote from: RustiSwordz on May 04, 2012, 05:37:25 PM
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 04, 2012, 05:13:13 PM
    Quote from: RustiSwordz on May 04, 2012, 05:02:10 PM
    Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
    As Eva pointed out though.

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi48.tinypic.com%2F20fck6t.jpg&hash=53b9b01d211f3323ee2a9e85cfa2b603a2cd1c39

    This burn victim features glasses mister glasses.  :)

    You also notice his nose and his mouth has pretty much melted away. This thing gets cut gets into his helmet spraying acid and the poor guy gets his face burnt right off.
    Someone said they saw a skull reflected in the helmet of another crewmember as a casulty is being handled near the Prometheus ramp. I think its Milburn alright he's not had a good death.

    Do you know who that is or where they say it, or a photo? I am just curious because I haven't seen anything like that.

    http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43178.msg1347566#msg1347566

    Oh - thanks a lot! That makes a lot of sense actually if that is a skull. I was wondering anyways what the scene might be all about, and now a good possible explanation. Again, thanks!
  18. RustiSwordz
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 04, 2012, 05:13:13 PM
    Quote from: RustiSwordz on May 04, 2012, 05:02:10 PM
    Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
    As Eva pointed out though.

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi48.tinypic.com%2F20fck6t.jpg&hash=53b9b01d211f3323ee2a9e85cfa2b603a2cd1c39

    This burn victim features glasses mister glasses.  :)

    You also notice his nose and his mouth has pretty much melted away. This thing gets cut gets into his helmet spraying acid and the poor guy gets his face burnt right off.
    Someone said they saw a skull reflected in the helmet of another crewmember as a casulty is being handled near the Prometheus ramp. I think its Milburn alright he's not had a good death.

    Do you know who that is or where they say it, or a photo? I am just curious because I haven't seen anything like that.

    http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43178.msg1347566#msg1347566
  19. Qwertify
    Quote from: RustiSwordz on May 04, 2012, 05:02:10 PM
    Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
    As Eva pointed out though.

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi48.tinypic.com%2F20fck6t.jpg&hash=53b9b01d211f3323ee2a9e85cfa2b603a2cd1c39

    This burn victim features glasses mister glasses.  :)

    You also notice his nose and his mouth has pretty much melted away. This thing gets cut gets into his helmet spraying acid and the poor guy gets his face burnt right off.
    Someone said they saw a skull reflected in the helmet of another crewmember as a casulty is being handled near the Prometheus ramp. I think its Milburn alright he's not had a good death.

    Do you know who that is or where they say it, or a photo? I am just curious because I haven't seen anything like that. 
  20. RustiSwordz
    Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
    As Eva pointed out though.

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi48.tinypic.com%2F20fck6t.jpg&hash=53b9b01d211f3323ee2a9e85cfa2b603a2cd1c39

    This burn victim features glasses mister glasses.  :)

    You also notice his nose and his mouth has pretty much melted away. This thing gets cut gets into his helmet spraying acid and the poor guy gets his face burnt right off.
    Someone said they saw a skull reflected in the helmet of another crewmember as a casulty is being handled near the Prometheus ramp. I think its Milburn alright he's not had a good death.
  21. Qwertify
    Quote from: BioMechanical on May 04, 2012, 01:37:34 AM
    Because a virus can sustain its self for long periods of time without a host, correct?

    A virus doesn't sustain itself at all. It has no metabolism whatsoever. It is just a put of genetic info floating around in a capsule. In colder areas, with not light, where there is very little chemical interaction, viruses can last a very long time.

    They are like tiny pieces of machinery that, via their physical nature, are able to gain entry into cells and their genetic material without any energy expenditure. Once there, they can insert themselves into that cell's genetic machinery whereby the cell will be granted new functions; primarily those are to produce additional copies of that virus, (and also, if you are into biological jargon, to reduce class I MHC surface receptors on the cell, receptors that let other cells of the immune system know that it is virally infected, and signal an antiviral state and subsequently apoptosis of that cell, but this has no possible link to Prometheus anways).

    Because that snake/worm in Prometheus does move - it has a metabolism, and thus cannot be classified as a virus. Nevertheless, it can have other properties like a virus, in that it uses other living things' machinery to propagate its own offspring, at one cycle or another. In some rare cases, viruses have been known to mind control ants to walk around the tops of leaves, increasing their chances to be eaten by cattle. This is interesting because the virus need cells in the cattle's intestines to multiply. However, they can only last there for so long before being cast out in the cattle's feces. It is from the feces that the ants become infected in the first place. If you want, you can think about it in a way that the snake/worm can be a kind of parasite (all viruses are intracellular parasites anyways) that can lie perfectly dormant without a metabolism until primed by signs of life. This way they can inhabit a ship or whatever for essentially forever - until life comes by.
  22. harlock
    I think Holloway gets infected when
    Spoiler
    he takes his helmet off in the first visit to the temple, pretty sure it is said he lets dripping water fall on his face. Microscopic viral life-forms could be in said water, which may be related to the black soup of the urns at a more distilled level. If that water gets in his eyes, then he gets eye-worms!  ;D

    Also bearing in mind for the flow of the film, Shaw has a confrontation with the Engineer and the Big Tendril thing whilst seemingly on the Prometheus, or a possible second ship (Magellan?). If she was fighting the Engineer on the Prometheus, she had to leave and get dirtside somehow to be there when Janek rams the Juggernaut and strands Shaw and Vickers.
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  23. BioMechanical
    What bothers me about these creatures is, and I'm hoping this is not what is happening, but, the fact that the makers of this film will have you believe that these snake aliens are running around or hibernating in corpses or whatever for who the hell knows how long? I mean the thing has to eat, right? It is eating the crew members, right?

    But, I guess if they were engineered to not to need to consume, food, so to speak. Then that could maybe work, with them only needing to absorb the nutrients out of the air like bacteria or VIRUS, or some stuff like that. Because a virus can sustain its self for long periods of time without a host, correct?

    Damn, I just answered my own question.. Lol.
  24. andyc
    Regarding the Fifield/Milburn & Cobra scene....

    The only piece of dialogue we've heard from Milburn "errr come in Prometheus" is spoken in Rafe Spall's natural British accent in Featurette 2. We've already heard Sean Harris, whose is the American accent in the audio puzzle? It may just be a mess up from Spall but the character getting the squeeze definitely doesn't like Spall's usual voice.
  25. EGM1966


    Yes, good point.

    I do think that Shaw, who returns to the Prometheus from two trips out then has to go back so that she's in position over the juggernaut when it launches.
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    I am assuming that she goes out there to stop the engineers, because she is on to what they are up to (kill earthlings one way or another). Prometheus goes up to go home, so Shaw takes the lifeboat down to the surface. Then as she tries to get to the alien structure, the alien bay doors open up below and she has to run around them. The ship rises and a debate arises as to what to do. Vickers says:"Take us home!"
    Then Shaw, outside the ship radios in "If you don't stop it, there won't be any home to go back to!"
    Captain Janek decides to do the right thing and kamikaze the ship into the Juggernaut. Vickers frantically runs to the escape pods. Both her and Shaw are on the surface when the Juggernaut falls to the ground. They run for their lives.

    What happens next?

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    [/quote]
    That sounds like a good flow.  Seems to me there are two escapes from the Prometheus - the shuttle craft seen in trailers plus the smaller pod Vickers ejects in - looks like close to last minute possible before collision.  Or am I mixing the two up?

    Also - cut out the trail - it was getting long!   :)
  26. OpenMaw
    Quote from: ucdom on May 03, 2012, 02:21:11 PM
    lol - wish I could figure out how to do selective quotes... oh well.

    You manually edit the text as you're responding. You can also click "insert quote" when you're posting a reply. :)

    Quote from: ucdom on May 03, 2012, 02:21:11 PM
    I don't know either way. I think we need to have a climactic third act on the planet involving Shaw and Vickers and a possible survivor of the juggernaut crash, none of which has been seen in the trailers.

    We do know that the last bunch of minutes of the film were not given to the editors of the trailers. So the climax is completely unspoiled.
  27. Winkie Bear
    lol - wish I could figure out how to do selective quotes... oh well.

    There are two other events we need to account for - Shaw's "surgery" and her encounter with one of the alien beings (I'm not going anywhere near the mutated crewmember idea).

    I see the surgery occurring after the second trip. Later she takes RTO1 (scene in trailers where she agressively reverses) and heads out again. But the ground opens up to allow the juggernaut to take off and she gets out. Prometheus takes off, Vickers escapes and the ships collide.
    Now, the encounter with the alien being either occurs before the Prometheus takes off (why has this creature come aboard?) or it occurs in the wrecked lifeboat after the juggernaut crash - he comes after the folks who pranged his shiny spaceship.
    I don't know either way. I think we need to have a climactic third act on the planet involving Shaw and Vickers and a possible survivor of the juggernaut crash, none of which has been seen in the trailers.
  28. Qwertify
    Quote from: ucdom on May 03, 2012, 01:45:54 PM
    Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 01:43:36 PM
    Quote from: ucdom on May 03, 2012, 01:31:06 PM
    Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 01:13:14 PM
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 03, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
    Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 12:11:48 PM
    Nasty.  From what's been released I'm going with Milburn get's his arm broken, then Fifield get's his suit sprayed with some acid (curious how this mutates him though - unless he gets something else on him) and while he's occupied with that the worm thing really goes to town on poor Milburn.  The others come running of course and find dead Milburn (with a little surprise in his mouth) plus a wounded Fifield.

    What makes it worse is the slow but steady progress of chaos.  From the characters bantering a bit about the thing, then growing worry that it won't let go to the sounds of bones breaking.

    Also, unless very carefully cut to reveal little, there is no way that's anything but an R is US going by the duration and intensity of the scene.

    One thing though, how does Holloway get infected and how is it low key enough for Shaw to sleep with him afterwards?  Some stuff shows him with bubbling skin and looking pretty altered right away as they help him hobble back to the ship while other shots imply a very slow process that's not apparent - the shot of his eye with the little worm thing - which implies a period of time when he might know he's not quite right but no one else knows.

    While the trailers, etc. seem to reveal a bit there's clearly a lot unknown about the sequence of events once they land and explore.

    But those sounds!  Very nasty sequence.  Probably only intended as an initial taster too - showing how dangerous even a smaller creature in this environment is.

    Most likely Shaw sleeps with an infected Holloway, and that is how she is infected herself. We do not know that for sure however.
    Also - Holloway could have potentially infected himself - in pursuit of becoming a God, or an Engineer. Marshall-Green describes his character as someone who leaps before he looks, and takes things to the extreme. In his dialogue with David, he asks him what he would be willing to do to get what he came looking for (described by the writers as someone who wants to stand next to his creators). He replies, "Anything and everything." Taking this all into consideration - he could infect himself with David's help.

    Other than that - yeah Milburn and Fifield sure get messed up in this encounter. I am curious to know at exactly which point in the movie this happens. It appears that the go to the ship at least two or three time. If they realize how hostile the aliens are - what makes them stick around? My best guess, if this were true, would be that they bring back a bunch of things from the ship, and never plan to return, save for analytical purposes. The figure if they don't go back - they are safe in a sense, from whatever attack Fifield and Milburn.

    Yeah I'm now wondering something similar.  I'm thinking there is a trip where nothing happens and they bring back the Jocky Head and an Urn.  I say this as there seem to be scenes implying most scientists around at that point.  I think Holloway get's infected around here - that little blob David balances on his fingertip and their scene together...

    Then they go back and delve deeper into the ruins and Milburn and Fifield discovery the room with the broken urns and stuff running loose and get trashed.  I'm thinking that during that visit Holloway's infection erupts or is somehow accelerated hence the shots of him in his suit with his skin bubbling.  After that scene he's brought back and we know then he looks changed and Vickers doesn't want him on the ship.

    Spot on. I think there may be three trips out. There are certainly two returns to the Prometheus - one in which there is a storm chasing them, and another where there is evidently no storm in the background and they are greeted by Vickers with a flame-thrower. In both of those trips Shaw returns to the Prometheus, and yet we see a time when she is trying to escape the launch of the juggernaut, so she must have gone out a third time.

    My opinion is that trip 1 is pretty innocuous. They explore parts of the temple, bring back the Jockey head and an urn. You then see them study these items aboard the ship. Holloway may have become infected without realising it, but sees a weird thing in his eye after this first outing. This is the trip where a storm chases them on the way back.
    Trip 2 is where things get messy - they go back after the storm and encounter some nasties, Milburn gets eaten from the inside out and Fifield is horribly acid burned.  The team returns in a shambles to the Prometheus but Vickers tries to keep them out.
    In the possible 3rd trip they find and enter the juggernaut. David finds the map room and the jockey holograms, and they begin to learn what's happened. But this maybe triggers the thing to launch.

    And this is before the 3rd act I reckon!!
    Sounds reasonable, although I'm wondering if your description of the third trip wouldn't take place during the second?  I get the feelling from the shots of the hologram that you'll have David, Shaw, etc. explore the control room initially but be drawn away when Milburn and Fifield get into trouble.  The shot of him entering the control room with the others seems too relaxed to be that late in the film and after some deaths.

    Yes, good point.

    I do think that Shaw, who returns to the Prometheus from two trips out then has to go back so that she's in position over the juggernaut when it launches.

    I am assuming that she goes out there to stop the engineers, because she is on to what they are up to (kill earthlings one way or another). Prometheus goes up to go home, so Shaw takes the lifeboat down to the surface. Then as she tries to get to the alien structure, the alien bay doors open up below and she has to run around them. The ship rises and a debate arises as to what to do. Vickers says:"Take us home!"
    Then Shaw, outside the ship radios in "If you don't stop it, there won't be any home to go back to!"
    Captain Janek decides to do the right thing and kamikaze the ship into the Juggernaut. Vickers frantically runs to the escape pods. Both her and Shaw are on the surface when the Juggernaut falls to the ground. They run for their lives.

    What happens next?

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  29. Winkie Bear
    Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 01:43:36 PM
    Quote from: ucdom on May 03, 2012, 01:31:06 PM
    Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 01:13:14 PM
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 03, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
    Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 12:11:48 PM
    Nasty.  From what's been released I'm going with Milburn get's his arm broken, then Fifield get's his suit sprayed with some acid (curious how this mutates him though - unless he gets something else on him) and while he's occupied with that the worm thing really goes to town on poor Milburn.  The others come running of course and find dead Milburn (with a little surprise in his mouth) plus a wounded Fifield.

    What makes it worse is the slow but steady progress of chaos.  From the characters bantering a bit about the thing, then growing worry that it won't let go to the sounds of bones breaking.

    Also, unless very carefully cut to reveal little, there is no way that's anything but an R is US going by the duration and intensity of the scene.

    One thing though, how does Holloway get infected and how is it low key enough for Shaw to sleep with him afterwards?  Some stuff shows him with bubbling skin and looking pretty altered right away as they help him hobble back to the ship while other shots imply a very slow process that's not apparent - the shot of his eye with the little worm thing - which implies a period of time when he might know he's not quite right but no one else knows.

    While the trailers, etc. seem to reveal a bit there's clearly a lot unknown about the sequence of events once they land and explore.

    But those sounds!  Very nasty sequence.  Probably only intended as an initial taster too - showing how dangerous even a smaller creature in this environment is.

    Most likely Shaw sleeps with an infected Holloway, and that is how she is infected herself. We do not know that for sure however.
    Also - Holloway could have potentially infected himself - in pursuit of becoming a God, or an Engineer. Marshall-Green describes his character as someone who leaps before he looks, and takes things to the extreme. In his dialogue with David, he asks him what he would be willing to do to get what he came looking for (described by the writers as someone who wants to stand next to his creators). He replies, "Anything and everything." Taking this all into consideration - he could infect himself with David's help.

    Other than that - yeah Milburn and Fifield sure get messed up in this encounter. I am curious to know at exactly which point in the movie this happens. It appears that the go to the ship at least two or three time. If they realize how hostile the aliens are - what makes them stick around? My best guess, if this were true, would be that they bring back a bunch of things from the ship, and never plan to return, save for analytical purposes. The figure if they don't go back - they are safe in a sense, from whatever attack Fifield and Milburn.

    Yeah I'm now wondering something similar.  I'm thinking there is a trip where nothing happens and they bring back the Jocky Head and an Urn.  I say this as there seem to be scenes implying most scientists around at that point.  I think Holloway get's infected around here - that little blob David balances on his fingertip and their scene together...

    Then they go back and delve deeper into the ruins and Milburn and Fifield discovery the room with the broken urns and stuff running loose and get trashed.  I'm thinking that during that visit Holloway's infection erupts or is somehow accelerated hence the shots of him in his suit with his skin bubbling.  After that scene he's brought back and we know then he looks changed and Vickers doesn't want him on the ship.

    Spot on. I think there may be three trips out. There are certainly two returns to the Prometheus - one in which there is a storm chasing them, and another where there is evidently no storm in the background and they are greeted by Vickers with a flame-thrower. In both of those trips Shaw returns to the Prometheus, and yet we see a time when she is trying to escape the launch of the juggernaut, so she must have gone out a third time.

    My opinion is that trip 1 is pretty innocuous. They explore parts of the temple, bring back the Jockey head and an urn. You then see them study these items aboard the ship. Holloway may have become infected without realising it, but sees a weird thing in his eye after this first outing. This is the trip where a storm chases them on the way back.
    Trip 2 is where things get messy - they go back after the storm and encounter some nasties, Milburn gets eaten from the inside out and Fifield is horribly acid burned.  The team returns in a shambles to the Prometheus but Vickers tries to keep them out.
    In the possible 3rd trip they find and enter the juggernaut. David finds the map room and the jockey holograms, and they begin to learn what's happened. But this maybe triggers the thing to launch.

    And this is before the 3rd act I reckon!!
    Sounds reasonable, although I'm wondering if your description of the third trip wouldn't take place during the second?  I get the feelling from the shots of the hologram that you'll have David, Shaw, etc. explore the control room initially but be drawn away when Milburn and Fifield get into trouble.  The shot of him entering the control room with the others seems too relaxed to be that late in the film and after some deaths.

    Yes, good point.

    I do think that Shaw, who returns to the Prometheus from two trips out then has to go back so that she's in position over the juggernaut when it launches.
  30. EGM1966
    Quote from: ucdom on May 03, 2012, 01:31:06 PM
    Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 01:13:14 PM
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 03, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
    Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 12:11:48 PM
    Nasty.  From what's been released I'm going with Milburn get's his arm broken, then Fifield get's his suit sprayed with some acid (curious how this mutates him though - unless he gets something else on him) and while he's occupied with that the worm thing really goes to town on poor Milburn.  The others come running of course and find dead Milburn (with a little surprise in his mouth) plus a wounded Fifield.

    What makes it worse is the slow but steady progress of chaos.  From the characters bantering a bit about the thing, then growing worry that it won't let go to the sounds of bones breaking.

    Also, unless very carefully cut to reveal little, there is no way that's anything but an R is US going by the duration and intensity of the scene.

    One thing though, how does Holloway get infected and how is it low key enough for Shaw to sleep with him afterwards?  Some stuff shows him with bubbling skin and looking pretty altered right away as they help him hobble back to the ship while other shots imply a very slow process that's not apparent - the shot of his eye with the little worm thing - which implies a period of time when he might know he's not quite right but no one else knows.

    While the trailers, etc. seem to reveal a bit there's clearly a lot unknown about the sequence of events once they land and explore.

    But those sounds!  Very nasty sequence.  Probably only intended as an initial taster too - showing how dangerous even a smaller creature in this environment is.

    Most likely Shaw sleeps with an infected Holloway, and that is how she is infected herself. We do not know that for sure however.
    Also - Holloway could have potentially infected himself - in pursuit of becoming a God, or an Engineer. Marshall-Green describes his character as someone who leaps before he looks, and takes things to the extreme. In his dialogue with David, he asks him what he would be willing to do to get what he came looking for (described by the writers as someone who wants to stand next to his creators). He replies, "Anything and everything." Taking this all into consideration - he could infect himself with David's help.

    Other than that - yeah Milburn and Fifield sure get messed up in this encounter. I am curious to know at exactly which point in the movie this happens. It appears that the go to the ship at least two or three time. If they realize how hostile the aliens are - what makes them stick around? My best guess, if this were true, would be that they bring back a bunch of things from the ship, and never plan to return, save for analytical purposes. The figure if they don't go back - they are safe in a sense, from whatever attack Fifield and Milburn.

    Yeah I'm now wondering something similar.  I'm thinking there is a trip where nothing happens and they bring back the Jocky Head and an Urn.  I say this as there seem to be scenes implying most scientists around at that point.  I think Holloway get's infected around here - that little blob David balances on his fingertip and their scene together...

    Then they go back and delve deeper into the ruins and Milburn and Fifield discovery the room with the broken urns and stuff running loose and get trashed.  I'm thinking that during that visit Holloway's infection erupts or is somehow accelerated hence the shots of him in his suit with his skin bubbling.  After that scene he's brought back and we know then he looks changed and Vickers doesn't want him on the ship.

    Spot on. I think there may be three trips out. There are certainly two returns to the Prometheus - one in which there is a storm chasing them, and another where there is evidently no storm in the background and they are greeted by Vickers with a flame-thrower. In both of those trips Shaw returns to the Prometheus, and yet we see a time when she is trying to escape the launch of the juggernaut, so she must have gone out a third time.

    My opinion is that trip 1 is pretty innocuous. They explore parts of the temple, bring back the Jockey head and an urn. You then see them study these items aboard the ship. Holloway may have become infected without realising it, but sees a weird thing in his eye after this first outing. This is the trip where a storm chases them on the way back.
    Trip 2 is where things get messy - they go back after the storm and encounter some nasties, Milburn gets eaten from the inside out and Fifield is horribly acid burned.  The team returns in a shambles to the Prometheus but Vickers tries to keep them out.
    In the possible 3rd trip they find and enter the juggernaut. David finds the map room and the jockey holograms, and they begin to learn what's happened. But this maybe triggers the thing to launch.

    And this is before the 3rd act I reckon!!
    Sounds reasonable, although I'm wondering if your description of the third trip wouldn't take place during the second?  I get the feelling from the shots of the hologram that you'll have David, Shaw, etc. explore the control room initially but be drawn away when Milburn and Fifield get into trouble.  The shot of him entering the control room with the others seems too relaxed to be that late in the film and after some deaths.
  31. Esoteric_Voyage
    Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
    As Eva pointed out though.

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi48.tinypic.com%2F20fck6t.jpg&hash=53b9b01d211f3323ee2a9e85cfa2b603a2cd1c39

    This burn victim features glasses mister glasses.  :)

    i'm actually going to take a bold opposition here and say it might actually be fifield, for two reasons, and Not milburn.

    in the latter scenes of them returning to the ship, we see one helmet that is badly damaged, and that helmet from what we can tell consistently belongs to fifield, but clearly they remove the acid burned part later.

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.tinypic.com%2F6xulcm.jpg&hash=77082b7aab5d61b35d317bd8c7dac46d41f9a972
    reason 2: everyone says they are glasses but are they?? LOOOK very very closely. notice two things: theres no sign of the metalic hat with the yellow name band across the head, it looks more like fifields bald tattoo'd head.

    as far the glasses: Notice, at the bottom of the victims nose is another very dark equally strong 'line' which sort of strobe the bottom of the nose. i think the other line which is going accross the bridge of the nose, is being mistaken for glasses. look very carefully at the rest of the bur nmakes on the helmet, it matches theses lines and i think that dark line just happens to look similar to the bottom edges of glasses but one other thing worth noting, is that if it was caused by glasses, the impression would be more 'complete' but its not. its just the bottom area of the 'imaginary glasses' that we can make an impression of.

    i also just don't think the alien creature would be fickle about a victim like this, i think it picks fifields and thats it (when it comes to going inside the suit i mean)

    i think the 'cut it off' line sounds a bit more fifield to me too.

    anyway, heres a photoshopped image ot make my case

    perhaps  it never goes into fifields suit and all his burns are just from acid.

    i just realised though that im forgetting the scene with the mouth 'burster' maybe it is milburn.

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