The Weyland Industries website has been updated once again, this time adding a very extensive section called “Investor Information“. This new section focuses around the most recent financial information of the company. It includes details on earth’s resources, health care, sales growth, Project Prometheus and much more. It’s worth mentioning that the earth’s resources section includes a mysterious mineral called ‘Eitr’. Eitr is a mythical substance in Norse mythology. According to Wikipedia, this liquid substance is the origin of all living things. Other fictional mineral resources listed on the page include Orichalcum and Carmot. You can read the whole section here at the official website.
I dont know but theres a lot of guys working in security that LOOK a hell of a lot like Ash, but they cant be androids as no androids work in security.....
is ash a one of a kind? Built to infiltrate as a real human ? If there was a common "ash" model on earth surely the crew of the nostromo would have known he was a robot ??
Just some thoughts
Ahh...thanks for the clarification. Now I can understand what you were trying to say.
01. The control station for an oil rig
02. The cockpit of a space shuttle
03. The loading bays of military battleships
All from around the same time period ( give or take 10-25 years).
Not all my pics got posted and i could not work out why lolz
I actually think the prometheus itself is a very real-world looking spacecraft with very sci-fi-ish interior ( holograms et etc) , were as the nostromo looks to be very sci-fi-ish and otherworldy with very real-world looking interior
Im guessing...........(lol)............the tech in the prometheus(3d scanners, holograms etc etc) is all automated by the time ships like the nostromo were put into service i.e the nostromo's mother board does all of that for the crew........kinda like the difference between an aticus and a calculator
The viral website mentions an average lifespan of +90 years for men when Prometheus is talking place. Peter Weyland is what - in his 70s/80s - not much older than Sir Ridley himself right now and he's alive and kicking, even with a dodgy leg.
My instinct is that Weyland is part of this journey because there's nothing left for him to achieve on Earth. If our makers or Gods are indeed within our reach, I would want to meet them face to face as well before I leave this world, if I had the chance.
It's all okey with me, while it's good sci fi story I can skip some differences in design and newer look of equipment.
too sci fi?..
Eagle-Fire, looking at your pic just made me scream "My god it's full of... lights"
As much as guys like me (45) or older WANT to think this movie is JUST for us...it's not.
I also think that if the trailer is somewhat chronological, which most people assume (although often times not true)...Prometheus moves from bright and colorful to dark and foreboding.
From the standpoint of what attracts a wider audience, this would seem to be logical...get them with the flashy visuals...but KEEP them with the story.
I also suspect that the direct line from Prometheus to Alien, as so many of us wonder about...does need to go through ANOTHER film to be completed.
I can imagine a scenario where the technology onboard Prometheus is 'one of a kind' and once the ship is destroyed (only guessing that it is)...replication of many of these things is not possible or perhaps because of the outcome of this journey certain things are no longer allowed...feeding back into the idea that playing God is not allowed.
In any case, as much as I accept the idea that Ridley offers -- tech we see in Prometheus is that way because of the type of vessel...science versus the mining ship in Alien -- I think he would also find a way to make this new film follow logically into Alien...either by itself or with another installment...and that would require some kind of backward step in our approach to being 'creators'.
One thing is clear...to keep things consistent...we somehow need to go from David to Ash...and in the case of Ash, we have a synthetic that is not recognized by look, behavior or type...and this does seem to somewhat contradict what I said above about 'creators'.
Absolutely agree. But I am confused by your last sentence (highlighted in bold). Can you re-word?
Actually, with all respect Eagle-Fire...I am not quite sure what the point is you are trying to make. The shuttle was designed in the early / mid 70's. The original shuttles did not feature "glass cockpits" (flat panel displays, touch screens, etc.). They were upgraded and retrofitted from their original equipment -- the original cockpits featured CRT displays, and electromechanical gauges. I believe Shuttle Atlantis was the first to be retrofitted...sometime in the early 2000s.
In any event, can you expand on your previous post.
how about this for a ''fanwank'' , ALIEN was made in the 70s......( think about that for a min or 2 )..........
Prometheus was made in 2010-2012......( take another min or 2 ).............
........ok so im assuming you have a fair grasp on the concept im throwing at you , i know its probably alot for you to have to proccess so im gonna wait another min or 2 before i proceed to a point that has been put down before............
now before you see the piks i am posting just take a few breaths because i know this is gonna be a hard pill for you to swallow
Still green underneath the black goo.
Probably some sort of shock absorber liquid.
That is some nice last minute addition thinking.
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I love this shot, it reminds me of the low lit environment on the Nostromo bridge.
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Well, Aliens seemed like the biggest opportunity to show off its tech. With the Colonial Marines and all the gear they were packing. Motion censors, smart guns, and robotic mechs and tracking devices etc.
The Prometheus is a science vessel, uniquely equipped for research and observation. As such it makes plausible sense that the tech were seeing had no opportunity to be shown in any of the films. This is a different story, and a different mission. I don't think that's too hard of a stretch.
It's not a holodeck - it's a projection screen. We could do that now.
Yeah.
I always took it for a simple projector that was displaying a calming image on the white wall (obviously this was the practical effect) - and never took much more than that away from it tech wise. They are trying to retrofit it in the Weyland time line, with one of those points on it - but yeah... I never took it to be hi-tech.
Um.. in the special edition of Aliens there is basically "holodeck" technology creating that virtual park where Ripley is sitting while waiting for Burke.
The original Nostromo was not a fantastical design, it appeared very functional at least in context with the time period it was made. There was also a guy walking around in a rubber monster suit without CGI effects, which may end up looking low-tech or inconsistent with what we are shown in Prometheus as far as creature design. I wouldn't expect the filmmakers to solely use rubber suit monsters or Alien puppets in order to maintain continuity.
I'm not distracted by high tech monitors in Prometheus. Theere's enough retro-design all over the production connecting this with Alien and I couldn't ask for more.
[troll] Pretty much. Maybe they are a fad like 3D is these days and people pulled their heads out of their butts and realised this - thus removing them from any future vessels etc.
Anyway.... still holding out to see what they'll put on the Module B page, points heavily to the David 8 announcement stuff. I'm sure there will be juicy tid-bits there for us to wonder over and speculate on
but basically this is what ive been saying all along and youve been disagreeing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but it is a certain demographic, its 18 to 30s which for the most part will be gamers and tech heads.
hes made it modern tech to appeal to a modern audience, he doesnt have a great deal of choice in it and i understand it, all ive said is that it doesnt match up. hmm, youve lost me now...
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rich
this, ive never really been into star trek tbh, but i did like the new one.
but agree with what cvalda is saying, its more to do with him fitting it in an existing timeline and reverse engineering, not rebooting which is different.
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rich
I'm sure some people did.
I didn't dig the new Abrams Enterprise design personally. Interiors were decent enough (despite the OH&S issues connected to eye strain from all the lens flares...)
Russians couldn't afford flat screens
Nostromo: Industrial ship, low cost, industrial components used - Comparable to current tech CNC fabrication equipment (CRT monitors, rudimentary CLI on the unit itself).
Prometheus: Top of the line, high cost, pinnacle of development, research vessel - Thus top of the line, brand new, non-main stream equipment.
My only half-gripe now lies with holographic displays, which seems a bit inconsistent when compared with the other films in the series - but when compared along side ALIEN only - has nothing to base itself off, therefore does not effect technological continuity in my opinion. A rudimentary refinery and mining vessel has no need for anything like that.
Ugh, that movie. One of the worst sequels ever. Even worse because the book was a very good, entertaining read.
...or that he is actually going to die in the movie. and i'm not talking about a "natural death".
By comparison, there has been an even greater span of time between the production of Alien and now Prometheus. Our technological culture has changed much more radically in the last 30 plus years, versus the time between TOS Star Trek and TMP.
I have no problem whatsoever with Ridley re-imagining the design aethetics, in light of the technological revolutions that have already occured, and extrapolating into the future.
The problems occur when you go in the other direction. Kubrick was a brilliant visionary, and simply nailed the "future-tech" that is presented in "2001: A Space Odyssey". Not only did he foresee the use of 3-D computer graphics (used in the various spacecrafts cockpits for navigation and docking), but they friggin' had flat screen displays. Heck, Poole and Bowman had iPad like devices on the Discovery. Yet, for some incomprehensible reason, in "2010: The Year We Make Contact", they have regressed to using old CRT monitors. I always hated that.
1990 + 95 = 2085 (aka the year where Ridley stated Prometheus takes place). Another hint at Peter Weyland being close to death.
I don't think people are missing your points in every post, I think you might be missing the big picture. Scott probably adopted the aesthetics for these movies (Alien and Prometheus) based on a futuristic vision of current technologies at the time that he made them. After all, that's what sci-fi is all about, right? Just like with any visionary artist, his ideas will most likely stay relevant with the times. From his perspective, he wants to make an original piece - not an installment of something he's already done. That'd just be silly. The technologies you see in the trailers for Prometheus are pretty accurate to what we'd imagine our future being now that we're in 2012, not 1979. Try and see if from a realistic point of view rather than from that of a fan. I think that's a step we've all had to take since seeing the trailers for Prometheus.
Good point. Hadn't though of that. All the screens in that look decidedly CRT.
Rather than concentrate on Ursa Major as a whole, looking at the Big Dipper shows Mizar is a binary star, just like Zeta 2 Reticuli and Merak has a confirmed planetary system. These would be the left-most and right-most stars of the formation, 78 and 79 Light Years from Earth, so both are further away from Zeta 2 Reticuli and may need Project Prometheus to reach.
Its wiki page also says that the Dipper is changing shape as it ages, so Holloway is probably pulling at it to de-age the Dipper to match with the pictogram's visuals of it?
Also, funnily enough, if one follows the handle of the Dipper, you can measure a distance to Arcturus...
you misunderstood, i didn't mean you were getting upset, but nvm.
and yes, we can all make reasons to retcon etc and can all think up ways to make things fit, but thats missing the whole point of mine and ThisBethesdaSeas debate.
again, im not too bothered and i understand why its been done which ive explained in my posts many times, but Bethesda doesnt agree about the real reasons behind it which is the point of our debate.
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rich
i only offered my 2p's worth as its a solution that works for me personally and a way i can identify with the retcon going on seeing as the computers and displays in alien were so plain.... and dated...
im really looking forward to this film and hoping they dont screw it up, im also hoping it answers lots of unanswered questions from Alien, or at least gives an indication.
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james