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Title: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: lv_226 on May 26, 2016, 01:07:11 PM
Quote from: Enoch on May 26, 2016, 01:06:09 PM
https://twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/735817790045708288 (https://twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/735817790045708288)

HOLY...SHIT..

That corridor.... #faints.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Stolen on May 26, 2016, 01:13:43 PM
f**king HOT shot and first look of Daniels.
Title: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 26, 2016, 01:14:29 PM

We now have our first look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels in Alien: Covenant in a picture that has been shared on the various Alien social media platforms! We’ve seen the exterior of the a ship in Milford Sound, we’ve seen Engineer monuments, the ship emblem of the Covenant and recently we got a sneak peak at the aftermath of an apparent battle.

Now we’ve get our first look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels and presumably the interior of the Covenant in this new behind-the-scenes still!

First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels in Alien: Covenant!

First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels in Alien: Covenant!

The picture, which is simply captioned: “Nowhere to run. #AlienCovenant #Daniels“, shows Katherine Waterston’s character Daniels taking a brief respite with a fire happening further down the corridors. You can also make out that Daniels is holding a weapon.

This picture also gives us our first look inside the interior of, presumably, the Covenant. Michael Fassbender recently spoke about the look of the sets, implying that they hearkened back to the dirty used look that Star Wars and Alien helped make so prolific.

What do you think of our latest look at Sir Ridley Scott’s Alien: Covenant?

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Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Enoch on May 26, 2016, 01:20:32 PM
Everything is great so far.
CAST, SETS, design, locations, Harry Gregson Williams ... everything.

Story!!!?????? ::)
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: whiterabbit on May 26, 2016, 01:27:10 PM
Looks awesome. The ships already falling apart... oh wait, Ripley's taking a break in the corner.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 26, 2016, 01:32:12 PM
Hard to really see too much of the set because of the lighting but it's looking nice and grimmy and dark. Waterston seems to rocking a nice short hairstyle too.


(https://cdn.flutter.co/pulse/uploads/Gezjf5dTQeqVRD2cMhQC_Alien_Covenant_Daniels_bright.jpg)

Brightened up look at the image via RPF Pulse.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Enoch on May 26, 2016, 01:44:39 PM
There is a gun :o

(https://67.media.tumblr.com/8401c823ea5c0914b27365f2afe85c4b/tumblr_n4piyuNo731s2wio8o1_500.gif)

Ridley once again introduced "masculine" kind of woman.
I like how Daniels looks!
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 26, 2016, 01:48:57 PM
Nice catch! Hopefully they'll be a bit more interesting that the designs used in Prometheus. It'd be nice to get another toy as cool as the Pulse Rifle!  ;D
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: 426Buddy on May 26, 2016, 01:55:26 PM
Looks great to me, can't wait to be sitting in a theater waiting for this movie to start!
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: BonesawT101 on May 26, 2016, 02:10:53 PM
Looking good. Has the look and feel of a contemporary alien movie, which prometheus largely lacked. Daniels looks great in the shot. She seems to fit in with the aesthetic in a way noomi never did. At least for me.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: T Dog on May 26, 2016, 02:24:31 PM
They gave her a nice short hair cut!!!!
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Ultramorph on May 26, 2016, 02:38:10 PM
Those sets!  :o The hype train has no breaks.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on May 26, 2016, 03:38:55 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 26, 2016, 01:32:12 PM
(https://cdn.flutter.co/pulse/uploads/Gezjf5dTQeqVRD2cMhQC_Alien_Covenant_Daniels_bright.jpg)

Gun almost looks like that modified pulse rifle Blomkamp posted on his Instagram a while back. The one with all the attachments.

The image looks like a screenshot from a game with all those bright contrasting colours.

Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: BringbackJonesy! on May 26, 2016, 03:48:16 PM
Nice preview.  All we need now is an incessant warning siren going off in this scene for a very 'ALIEN' vibe indeed.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on May 26, 2016, 05:00:53 PM
Hey folks,  I fixed the perspective on this image, and then I also adjusted the tone so you can see what is happening there.  I'll post it in a moment.





It almost looks like there is a Working Joe sitting there in the left corner of the image...
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: CainsSon on May 26, 2016, 05:18:44 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 26, 2016, 05:00:53 PM
Hey folks,  I fixed the perspective on this image, and then I also adjusted the tone so you can see what is happening there.  I'll post it in a moment.





It almost looks like there is a Working Joe sitting there in the left corner of the image...

Looking good so far! I'm a big fan of mixing green and orange light on sets.
I think that is just a chair. Would be cool to see a Working Joe end up in the films somehow.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Giger Beast on May 26, 2016, 05:25:12 PM
This is too cool!!!

Has an almost Alien Isolation vibe to it. Guess that's the colors?

Regardless, looks awesome!

Also, I wonder how much of this movie will take place on the ship as opposed to on the surface of the planet?
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: hfeldhaus on May 26, 2016, 05:26:27 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on May 26, 2016, 05:18:44 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 26, 2016, 05:00:53 PM
Hey folks,  I fixed the perspective on this image, and then I also adjusted the tone so you can see what is happening there.  I'll post it in a moment.





It almost looks like there is a Working Joe sitting there in the left corner of the image...

Looking good so far! I'm a big fan of mixing green and orange light on sets.
I think that is just a chair. Would be cool to see a Working Joe end up in the films somehow.

I'd be really happy if they incorporated Seegson into the movie-verse. The Working Joes were just as creepy as the Alien.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Keyes on May 26, 2016, 05:35:20 PM
High rez version on the official Alien Facebook page (click to enlarge):

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13254756_10154114346906605_4170609496769477936_o.jpg)
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Ultramorph on May 26, 2016, 05:39:32 PM
At this rate, I foresee us getting a peek at some xenos sooner than we might expect.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: CainsSon on May 26, 2016, 08:14:25 PM
Quote from: Daz85 on May 26, 2016, 05:35:20 PM
High rez version on the official Alien Facebook page (click to enlarge):

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13254756_10154114346906605_4170609496769477936_o.jpg)

This is officially a 3rd Ridley Scott film in the series. There is already a RS trilogy of Alien films.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: 426Buddy on May 26, 2016, 08:18:43 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on May 26, 2016, 05:39:32 PM
At this rate, I foresee us getting a peek at some xenos sooner than we might expect.

I really hope that they don't show any creatures before the film hits theaters, I won't be able to help myself if they do, but I really want to go into this not knowing what the creatures will look like.

I know that trailers will probably reveal all as usual though.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on May 26, 2016, 08:19:15 PM
Quote from: Daz85 on May 26, 2016, 05:35:20 PM
High rez version on the official Alien Facebook page (click to enlarge):

Nice. Okay I present the official AVP Galaxy version (the best version naturally), see attached.

Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Infected on May 26, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
Thats inside a spaceship......



i hope we dont get an Alien reboot that everything takes place inside that ship when they come back from their exploration walk on a moon or some sort....the scary and the hunting part is my least fav in the movies, i love the mysteries and exploration,
i dont care about the kills and stuff.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Mr. Clemens on May 26, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
Hope it isn't all their weed burning up back there.  :P
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Ssgtjira on May 26, 2016, 09:42:56 PM
M41a NO! This is inspired.. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e03eXF0vROU/VQsPEGJRLtI/AAAAAAAABT0/By7-yq5aeaQ/w1826-h578/H4_shotgun_trans.png
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: NickisSmart on May 26, 2016, 09:53:02 PM
Quote from: Infected on May 26, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
Thats inside a spaceship......



i hope we dont get an Alien reboot that everything takes place inside that ship when they come back from their exploration walk on a moon or some sort....the scary and the hunting part is my least fav in the movies, i love the mysteries and exploration,
i dont care about the kills and stuff.

I loved both. Hopefully the new film is a mixture AND NOT JUST ONE.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on May 26, 2016, 09:54:38 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on May 26, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
Hope it isn't all their weed burning up back there.  :P

Everyone is going to be stoned out of their minds with all those fumes wafting through the ship.  :laugh:
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: NickisSmart on May 26, 2016, 09:56:19 PM
That does look like a Working Joe, in the background. Those guys were basically Michael Myers in space. I'd be curious to see what Ridley can do with them; they'd certainly make for an interesting contrast with David.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Enoch on May 26, 2016, 10:05:14 PM
It seems that Daniels is crying :'( on this photo...
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: PVTDukeMorrison on May 26, 2016, 10:19:19 PM
Well she's holding a shotgun of some kind, can't ID it
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: dallevalle on May 26, 2016, 11:16:17 PM
im getting alien 1 vibes here
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: NickisSmart on May 26, 2016, 11:51:58 PM
Quote from: Enoch on May 26, 2016, 10:05:14 PM
It seems that Daniels is crying :'( on this photo...

I thought i saw tears, as well. Well, Lambert cried in Alien when Dallas died. Maybe a male love interest just bought the farm?
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Ash 937 on May 26, 2016, 11:57:26 PM
Nice Pic!

It would be nice if Alien: Covenant turns out to be the film that Prometheus should have been. 
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: acrediblesource on May 27, 2016, 12:18:47 AM
i hope alien covenant doesn't turn out to be the predictable facehugging AVP romp that it was suppose to be. I want to be excited for this, not expecting them to re-tread waters AVP already did.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: PRJ_since1990 on May 27, 2016, 12:29:54 AM
Well I have to say I will reserve personal judgment once it releases. As not a huge fan of Prometheus I can't get excited to be let down again. Honestly, I wish these spoilers would stop coming out. I remember seeing pics from Alien's production explicitly forbidding non-authorized personnel and no photos allowed. They kept it super secret and I miss that about films.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on May 27, 2016, 12:39:28 AM
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on May 27, 2016, 12:29:54 AM
Well I have to say I will reserve personal judgment once it releases. As not a huge fan of Prometheus I can't get excited to be let down again. Honestly, I wish these spoilers would stop coming out. I remember seeing pics from Alien's production explicitly forbidding non-authorized personnel and no photos allowed. They kept it super secret and I miss that about films.

It's super secret now too, but we live in a very different world now.  There was no internet back in 79, there were no cellphones with cameras.  Trying to keep something like this under wraps these days has become very very difficult.  I also don't want to know every little detail.

Wait a minute.

Yes I do.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: whiterabbit on May 27, 2016, 02:21:40 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 27, 2016, 12:39:28 AM
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on May 27, 2016, 12:29:54 AM
Well I have to say I will reserve personal judgment once it releases. As not a huge fan of Prometheus I can't get excited to be let down again. Honestly, I wish these spoilers would stop coming out. I remember seeing pics from Alien's production explicitly forbidding non-authorized personnel and no photos allowed. They kept it super secret and I miss that about films.

It's super secret now too, but we live in a very different world now.  There was no internet back in 79, there were no cellphones with cameras.  Trying to keep something like this under wraps these days has become very very difficult.  I also don't want to know every little detail.

Wait a minute.

Yes I do.
Hmm how can I ruin this... oh yea that's right; I wasn't here for the AVPR days but I do remember hearing that everyone like what they were seeing back then and thought the movie was going to be awesome. Have fun with that.

However this isn't that crap fest and Scott delivers most of the time. So I have the weirdest boner right now.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: CainsSon on May 27, 2016, 03:10:06 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 27, 2016, 12:39:28 AM
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on May 27, 2016, 12:29:54 AM
Well I have to say I will reserve personal judgment once it releases. As not a huge fan of Prometheus I can't get excited to be let down again. Honestly, I wish these spoilers would stop coming out. I remember seeing pics from Alien's production explicitly forbidding non-authorized personnel and no photos allowed. They kept it super secret and I miss that about films.

It's super secret now too, but we live in a very different world now.  There was no internet back in 79, there were no cellphones with cameras.  Trying to keep something like this under wraps these days has become very very difficult.  I also don't want to know every little detail.

Wait a minute.

Yes I do.

I think they try to release something from week to week to sort of deter the leaks and build hype at the same time. They figure if they given you something, and they control what they give you, it will take attention away from leaks maybe?
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Prez on May 27, 2016, 05:22:12 AM
Do my eyes deceive me or is there some form of liquid on the floor grating bottom left-ish. It's reflecting the flame but seems liquid in substance ... Alien dribble perhaps  ???
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 27, 2016, 07:22:18 AM
Quote from: CainsSon on May 26, 2016, 05:18:44 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 26, 2016, 05:00:53 PM
It almost looks like there is a Working Joe sitting there in the left corner of the image...

Looking good so far! I'm a big fan of mixing green and orange light on sets.
I think that is just a chair. Would be cool to see a Working Joe end up in the films somehow.

I'm not seeing the Joe either. I think it's just a chair as well. Though I would freaking love to see a Joe on screen!


Quote from: Ssgtjira on May 26, 2016, 09:42:56 PM
M41a NO! This is inspired.. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e03eXF0vROU/VQsPEGJRLtI/AAAAAAAABT0/By7-yq5aeaQ/w1826-h578/H4_shotgun_trans.png

I have to agree with you. It looks more like a shotgun than a pulse rifle.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Russ on May 27, 2016, 10:12:27 AM
#enthused. Looks... awesome.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Ssgtjira on May 27, 2016, 10:21:55 AM
 it is possible clone of shotgun M90 with Rail system: www.joystickdivision.com/Reach_MPBeta_Shotgun.jpg
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 27, 2016, 11:47:26 AM
As cool as it would be to use a Halo (Covenant, geddit? Geddit?!  :laugh:) weapon, I don't think they would. It'll be more likely be a modification of an existing platform.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: T Dog on May 27, 2016, 12:09:18 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 27, 2016, 11:47:26 AM
As cool as it would be to use a Halo (Covenant, geddit? Geddit?!  :laugh:) weapon, I don't think they would. It'll be more likely be a modification of an existing platform.
Ridley probably nicked it from Blomkamp!!!!! Awwww poor Bloomy, no WALIENSSSSSSS!
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on May 27, 2016, 01:33:32 PM
Star Wars vibe over there
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Lv-120986 on May 27, 2016, 02:39:12 PM
Judging buy the wiring hanging on the top right, would I be wrong to say that she's tried bypassing the door there before someone tried and succeeded destroying whatever was on fire??
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on May 27, 2016, 02:59:46 PM
Quote from: Lv-120986 on May 27, 2016, 02:39:12 PM
Judging buy the wiring hanging on the top right, would I be wrong to say that she's tried bypassing the door there before someone tried and succeeded destroying whatever was on fire??

No way to tell really, but some kind of bad news happened up there.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: CainsSon on May 27, 2016, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: Lv-120986 on May 27, 2016, 02:39:12 PM
Judging buy the wiring hanging on the top right, would I be wrong to say that she's tried bypassing the door there before someone tried and succeeded destroying whatever was on fire??

Agreed. Maybe David blows up the ship so they can't leave or something happens in the coarse of action that maroons them their.

Makes you think though. With 3 Ridley Scott Alien films, before ALIENS, already and the details of more to follow, aren't they backing themselves in a corner?
It already seems kinda silly for the Company to claim they have no idea what's going on after the events in Prometheus and Alien, but now there is a colony ship - the Covenant. If these people are never heard from again, I mean... Don't they sorta have to explain some sort of cover-up now? Or aren't they, at least, risking all of this messing with the validity of later sequels?
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on May 27, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on May 27, 2016, 01:33:32 PM
Star Wars vibe over there

It's the circular profile corridor I think
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on May 27, 2016, 03:29:30 PM
Quote from: Lv-120986 on May 27, 2016, 02:39:12 PM
Judging buy the wiring hanging on the top right, would I be wrong to say that she's tried bypassing the door there before someone tried and succeeded destroying whatever was on fire??

I used to think in a similar way with Prometheus...

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imfdb.org%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2F6%2F64%2FPrometheus-flamegun2.jpg%2F601px-Prometheus-flamegun2.jpg&hash=dd4d1bfc540461cb48b36d4bb16dd9ed1ae15c29)


Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 27, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on May 27, 2016, 01:33:32 PM
Star Wars vibe over there

It's the circular profile corridor I think

Yeah

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.starwarsnewsnet.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F01%2FFalcon-lounge.png&hash=5f41c2ebf9319fb79264cc63bcafc32bb0d75f2b)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.toyzmag.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F11%2Fbb8-falcon-looping.jpg&hash=1cbf6f2e3b0db56b26f7341b5bcd5757681b9a2a)
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on May 27, 2016, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on May 27, 2016, 03:15:55 PM
Makes you think though. With 3 Ridley Scott Alien films, before ALIENS, already and the details of more to follow, aren't they backing themselves in a corner?
It already seems kinda silly for the Company to claim they have no idea what's going on after the events in Prometheus and Alien, but now there is a colony ship - the Covenant. If these people are never heard from again, I mean... Don't they sorta have to explain some sort of cover-up now? Or aren't they, at least, risking all of this messing with the validity of later sequels?

If the ship and crew goes missing without trace then why would there need to be some sort of cover-up? It's on the far side of the galaxy. I doubt they would be in constant contact with the Company. Same goes for the Prometheus.

If we can have airliners that disappear without trace then the same is even more likely for spaceships in deepspace.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: 426Buddy on May 27, 2016, 04:26:46 PM
Agreed, supposedly the Prometheus mission was very secret as well. Also if I remember correctly the public and even a majority of the company were under the impression that Weyland had died on earth or mars, cant remember.

So if the Covenant went missing I think it would be seen as a complete mystery, much as like the Nostromo was. If only a few people in the company know whats actually going on (and even they may not know what happened to the Covenant) it wouldnt be to far fetched I think.

Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Quarax on May 27, 2016, 05:57:24 PM
The weapons in Prometheus were barely modified, so she could be holding something like this:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7f/11/e2/7f11e26379ce78e2a062a55bc2ba9122.jpg)

And there's a mount that seems to have three holes in it; could be this:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F41-qQQwuk9L._SX300_.jpg&hash=a536a9b18fdbe21bbf45681b39b15fbd1530b6d5)

But those shells look to be longer than normal shotgun shells. Maybe this time they actually made custom weapons for the movie?
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: CainsSon on May 28, 2016, 07:28:55 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 27, 2016, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on May 27, 2016, 03:15:55 PM
Makes you think though. With 3 Ridley Scott Alien films, before ALIENS, already and the details of more to follow, aren't they backing themselves in a corner?
It already seems kinda silly for the Company to claim they have no idea what's going on after the events in Prometheus and Alien, but now there is a colony ship - the Covenant. If these people are never heard from again, I mean... Don't they sorta have to explain some sort of cover-up now? Or aren't they, at least, risking all of this messing with the validity of later sequels?

If the ship and crew goes missing without trace then why would there need to be some sort of cover-up? It's on the far side of the galaxy. I doubt they would be in constant contact with the Company. Same goes for the Prometheus.

If we can have airliners that disappear without trace then the same is even more likely for spaceships in deepspace.

We don't though. I mean,
Disappear? Yes. Ship's disappear. But not often and not without people wanting answers and lots and lots of publicized searching and a public demand for research into it. These people, in this film especially, are on a Colony ship. The Nostromo was a bunch of truck drivers. The Sulaco - marines and another colony. The Prison colony - Ok maybe no one would care... But the Prometheus - while a secretive, scientific mission, would absolutely demand answers, from some very important people, since it carried scientists and the heads of the very same Company that sent it out there to begin with. That's not too mention WHAT the mission was all about. Secretive yes. But think it through...people knew about the ideas behind the mission. Shaw and Holloway devoted their lives to it. To assume that Prometheus was a dead end... It doesn't make sense. Someone would follow that shit up. Worse, people would likely come up with all kinds of conspiracy theories, no matter what cover up story the Company chose. Tex Marrs has several videos devoted to Conspiracy Theories about the FILM PROMETHEUS. Could you imagine if it was real? Maybe some of its covert objectives, would still be a secret to the general public but nonetheless... Those people have relatives and an answer would have to be generated. That's a given cover up. If a bunch of Scientists and the father/daughter team of the worlds largest corporation, go on a mission to a planet that sustains life, to meet our makers with a team of respected scientists who HAVE WRITTEN THESIS' about the subject... If all that went down and no one hears from them again,  I'm supposed to believe that was the END of all that? I mean, except for sending that tow-ship to check out a signal from a nearby planetoid 30 years later? Man, that's not happening. Come on. If an airplane disappears full of schmucks on vacation from the Phillipines, its all over every news report and news source and satellite scanners across the world. Even friggin' Cortney Love was looking for that missing plane using Google Earth a few years ago, remember?
Then we're saying a second crew ALSO goes missing and NO ONE looks into it further? No family members are or relatives are asking questions? Sorry. I don't by that.
Now a Colony ship was sent elsewhere to establish a COLONY... I mean, in Aliens, when they lost contact with the colony they send marines because of Ripley's report. Marines and when they were gone...

Ships don't just disappear, we search, we try to leave no stone un-turned. We are glued to our TVs. At the very LEAST there would have to be a cover up. In the case of this franchise, we have TOW-SHIPS and Prison colonies and Terraforming colonies all over Deep space... So yeah, people would look and people would certainly want answers.

I think it made sense to some extent from ALIEN (we already know the Company knew what it was doing in Alien) to ALIENS, but even after that, we have to assume the Colony on LV426 and then marines... There would be a serious involved investigation again. But now we are being asked to look at the series from a different side, and the more they stack on the pile before Alien, the less any of that can fly. It's a problem if they don't address it.

Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 28, 2016, 09:17:28 AM
Quote from: Quarax on May 27, 2016, 05:57:24 PM
The weapons in Prometheus were barely modified, so she could be holding something like this:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7f/11/e2/7f11e26379ce78e2a062a55bc2ba9122.jpg)

And there's a mount that seems to have three holes in it; could be this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41-qQQwuk9L._SX300_.jpg

But those shells look to be longer than normal shotgun shells. Maybe this time they actually made custom weapons for the movie?

Welcome back, Quarax! To be fair, there's some pretty badass and futuristic looking shotguns knocking about now-a-days. I'd have no issue with seeing those kind of things adapted for use in the film.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on May 28, 2016, 05:58:36 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on May 28, 2016, 07:28:55 AM
But the Prometheus - while a secretive, scientific mission, would absolutely demand answers, from some very important people, since it carried scientists and the heads of the very same Company that sent it out there to begin with. That's not too mention WHAT the mission was all about.

Scientific Exploratory Vessel: Prometheus
Crew: 17
Destination: Undisclosed

No-one back home knew where that ship was going. So when do they declare that ship MIA? Two years? Five years? Twenty-five years? And when they finally officially declare it missing where does an investigation team begin looking among the billions of stars in the galaxy? There's no need for a cover-up when no-ones knows anything in the first place.

QuoteIf a bunch of Scientists and the father/daughter team of the worlds largest corporation, go on a mission to a planet that sustains life, to meet our makers with a team of respected scientists who HAVE WRITTEN THESIS' about the subject... If all that went down and no one hears from them again,  I'm supposed to believe that was the END of all that?

Weyland was so paranoid with regards to mission secrecy, he stowed away on his own ship. His disappearance might have had nothing to do with the Prometheus for all anybody knew. And "team of respected scientists", really CainsSon? They were a bunch of drecks without the foggiest of where they were going. Shaw and Holloway were generally considered nutcases in Spaiths' draft just like most other "Ancient Astronaut" proponents.

QuoteWorse, people would likely come up with all kinds of conspiracy theories, no matter what cover up story the Company chose.

They would no doubt. Does it matter? Not really.

QuoteEven friggin' Cortney Love was looking for that missing plane using Google Earth a few years ago, remember?

Did they ever get around to finding that plane? Small world, planet Earth.

QuoteI mean, in Aliens, when they lost contact with the colony they send marines because of Ripley's report.

Yeah, because they knew where to find the colony. Ripley's report had nothing to do with anything, it was the loss of communications that resulted in the investigation.

QuoteNow a Colony ship was sent elsewhere to establish a COLONY...

So? Who says they reached their destination? The ship could have veered off-course and disappeared into deep space. Everything doesn't have to be a conspiracy you know.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: CainsSon on Jun 01, 2016, 05:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 28, 2016, 05:58:36 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on May 28, 2016, 07:28:55 AM
But the Prometheus - while a secretive, scientific mission, would absolutely demand answers, from some very important people, since it carried scientists and the heads of the very same Company that sent it out there to begin with. That's not too mention WHAT the mission was all about.

Scientific Exploratory Vessel: Prometheus
Crew: 17
Destination: Undisclosed

No-one back home knew where that ship was going. So when do they declare that ship MIA? Two years? Five years? Twenty-five years? And when they finally officially declare it missing where does an investigation team begin looking among the billions of stars in the galaxy? There's no need for a cover-up when no-ones knows anything in the first place.

QuoteIf a bunch of Scientists and the father/daughter team of the worlds largest corporation, go on a mission to a planet that sustains life, to meet our makers with a team of respected scientists who HAVE WRITTEN THESIS' about the subject... If all that went down and no one hears from them again,  I'm supposed to believe that was the END of all that?

Weyland was so paranoid with regards to mission secrecy, he stowed away on his own ship. His disappearance might have had nothing to do with the Prometheus for all anybody knew. And "team of respected scientists", really CainsSon? They were a bunch of drecks without the foggiest of where they were going. Shaw and Holloway were generally considered nutcases in Spaiths' draft just like most other "Ancient Astronaut" proponents.

QuoteWorse, people would likely come up with all kinds of conspiracy theories, no matter what cover up story the Company chose.

They would no doubt. Does it matter? Not really.

QuoteEven friggin' Cortney Love was looking for that missing plane using Google Earth a few years ago, remember?

Did they ever get around to finding that plane? Small world, planet Earth.

QuoteI mean, in Aliens, when they lost contact with the colony they send marines because of Ripley's report.

Yeah, because they knew where to find the colony. Ripley's report had nothing to do with anything, it was the loss of communications that resulted in the investigation.

QuoteNow a Colony ship was sent elsewhere to establish a COLONY...

So? Who says they reached their destination? The ship could have veered off-course and disappeared into deep space. Everything doesn't have to be a conspiracy you know.

Yeah. But.

All of these things still involve people looking for answers. With Prometheus - ok. maybe it would be on a Need to know basis, but that's still a story in itself and the point remains, that with all of this stuff happening BEFORE ALIEN, they are starting to push the issue, and if you ask me it's already been pushed in PROMETHEUS. I dont buy that after PROMETHEUS, they just send the NOSTROMO.
Someone would look into LV223 again. When it says UNDISCLOSED, it doesn't mean NOBODY. It means CLASSIFIED info. Plus you aren't considering that these scientists worked for years on this research. There were other people involved. This is likely a mistake of bad writing, but to think that Charlie and Shaw only ever spoke to Weyland about their theories, and kept that info away from their research team after multiple digs and excavations around the world, not too mention a THESIS was written... It doesn't make a lot of sense.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jun 01, 2016, 05:29:31 PM
I like the look of Waterston and the set!
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: CainsSon on Jun 01, 2016, 08:17:46 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 01, 2016, 05:29:31 PM
I like the look of Waterston and the set!

I noticed that blue bar with orange wires around it, reminds me of the suits in PROM.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Jun 01, 2016, 08:48:20 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on Jun 01, 2016, 05:29:15 PM
Someone would look into LV223 again. When it says UNDISCLOSED, it doesn't mean NOBODY. It means CLASSIFIED info.

Yes, Weyland, Holloway and Shaw knew but they're all goners now.

QuotePlus you aren't considering that these scientists worked for years on this research. There were other people involved. This is likely a mistake of bad writing, but to think that Charlie and Shaw only ever spoke to Weyland about their theories, and kept that info away from their research team after multiple digs and excavations around the world, not too mention a THESIS was written... It doesn't make a lot of sense.

Oh, they spoke to everyone about their theories all right. In Spaiths draft, Holloway and Shaw shop their theory around to various companies in order to get funding for an expedition but always get rejected. The implication is that no-one takes them seriously until Weyland gives them the benefit of the doubt. Even in Prometheus you can still see they are not considered respected scientists by the way Vickers treats them. Even the ever polite David makes a dig at Holloway's "thesis".

But, it would have been really dumb of them to tell everyone the exact location, that the Engineers were pointing to LV-223. Because when you think you've stumbled upon an undiscovered gold vein you don't broadcast it to the world. You keep it to yourself until you get there and stake your claim.

Same goes for Weyland, once he agreed to fund the mission he would have kept the actual location under wraps as well in order to avoid the information falling into the hands of a rival company. And that is why everyone on board only gets briefed after they arrive at LV-223.

So it makes perfect sense after all.
Title: Re: First Look at Katherine Waterston as Daniels!
Post by: Sevenlilxenos on Jun 02, 2016, 02:21:48 AM

I'm hoping SRS combines the best of Alien and Prometheus for AC.