QuoteThe first major obstacle is the title. It does reek of desperation, not to mention it screams "cheap". It sounds like a boxing match. I'm not sure you can get round that, which means it would be up to actual content to elevate the title.
QuoteI personally believe that it isn't and Alien no longer needs Ripley,
QuoteWell, if you are right then I guess that the franchise is pretty much dead already
Quote from: SM on Mar 01, 2017, 03:44:07 AMWell, if you are right then I guess that the franchise is pretty much dead already. I personally believe that it isn't and Alien no longer needs Ripley, but I guess Covenant's success or failure will be the true Judge of that.
When it comes to Ripley and people screaming "enough Ripley", my response is that there's six films with Aliens in, and the four best ones have Ripley in them, the implication being Alien and Ripley need each other.
The reasoned response to that is 'just because the existing AvP films don't work, doesn't mean they couldn't in the future'. Which is completely correct. There are ways to get the balance right so the respective franchises aren't weakened (something like the first comic series would work). The first major obstacle is the title. It does reek of desperation, not to mention it screams "cheap". It sounds like a boxing match. I'm not sure you can get round that, which means it would be up to the actual content to elevate the title.
Quote from: LCpl. D. Grant on Mar 01, 2017, 03:56:00 AMI was speaking of film crossovers, not comic ones. I have no problem with the crossovers as long as they stay in the extended universe.Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Mar 01, 2017, 03:13:08 AM
Because I feel that film crossovers not only reek of desperation, but often serve to only further weaken there respective franchises.
The comics didn't.
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Mar 01, 2017, 03:13:08 AM
Because I feel that film crossovers not only reek of desperation, but often serve to only further weaken there respective franchises.
Quote from: SM on Mar 01, 2017, 02:14:50 AMBecause I feel that film crossovers not only reek of desperation, but often serve to only further weaken there respective franchises.
Why not?
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Mar 01, 2017, 02:53:58 AMI never said that it didn't. What I meant was that most crossovers such as AVP don't.Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Mar 01, 2017, 01:47:53 AM
I disagree, there is plenty of reason to hate both ideas, and no AVP most definitely does not deserve "A-level treatment."
If someone said "It! The Terror From Beyond Space" didn't deserve A-treatment, we never would've received Alien.
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Mar 01, 2017, 01:47:53 AM
I disagree, there is plenty of reason to hate both ideas, and no AVP most definitely does not deserve "A-level treatment."
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 26, 2017, 04:08:16 AM
He's on record as heavily disliking the AVP concept.
Quote from: oberonqa on Feb 26, 2017, 10:25:19 PM
To be honest who doesn't like the AVP concept as it has been depicted on film so far? I wonder if his feelings is due to not liking the idea of the two franchises intermingling or is it due to execution of the idea? If it's the former... not much can be done to change his mind there. If it's the latter, then I wonder if he might not be able to be convinced into doing it by showing him the AvP comics. He may not even be aware of the comics if it's a matter of disliking the idea due to the execution of the movies....
Quote from: SM on Feb 26, 2017, 10:39:08 PMQuoteTo be honest who doesn't like the AVP concept as it has been depicted on film so far?
A clear majority.
QuoteTo be honest who doesn't like the AVP concept as it has been depicted on film so far?