Quote from: David Weyland on Dec 03, 2017, 02:08:05 PM
Tell me, can anyone list specifically the plot holes created by the Prequels?
Quote from: reecebomb on Dec 02, 2017, 06:25:55 PMQuote from: tleilaxu on Dec 02, 2017, 04:03:51 PMQuote from: acrediblesource on Dec 02, 2017, 02:19:40 PMAgain, as I've said before, I believe this is largely due to the marketing campaign. They should've marketed the movie as artistic biological weirdo film that it is rather than all the RUN PRAY HIDE crap.
We can only maintain the fact that Ridley Scott brought the Alien franchise back from extinction since all the other sequels made everyone disappointed. He brought back the allure and mystery if not bringing up more questions than giving answers. So not only did he stir the pot, he added veggies and meatballs.But A;Cov, proved that the franchise has a problem of making something that everyone expected , that being NOT MEETING EXPECTATION. ANd thats the problem everytime.
Except the film was more of the latter than the former, so the marketing was actually pretty accurate. Having a villain quoting classic literature in a weak film doesn't change the fact that the film is still weak.Quote from: acrediblesource on Dec 02, 2017, 02:19:40 PM
We can only maintain the fact that Ridley Scott brought the Alien franchise back from extinction since all the other sequels made everyone disappointed. He brought back the allure and mystery if not bringing up more questions than giving answers. So not only did he stir the pot, he added veggies and meatballs.But A;Cov, proved that the franchise has a problem of making something that everyone expected , that being NOT MEETING EXPECTATION. ANd thats the problem everytime.
Brought back the mystery A lot of peoples impression is the exact opposite, you're kidding yourself if you think Covenant was less dissapointing than the worst sequels. Aliens and to me Alien 3 are great sequels and Resurrection is still a better film than Covenant. Many of us just expected the film to simply be good, the reality didn't meet our expectations. By food analogy Ridley did stir the pot, but by now the result has become a watery fruit salad with fishbones that's probably best left to rot.
Alien cultivated our imagination for decades, that mystery of it all was most likely the most important factor why the film was so highly regarded all these years. The smart subtlety of it was far more stimulating than on the nose philoshophy of Covenant which failed to mask that the film is basically a mediocre space monster flick, it's more of the same done with zero finesse.
Maybe i'm wrong here, but imo this board also used to flourish with fan theories about different aspects the films dark cold universe, the prequels gave us inconsistencies, plotholes and mcguffings to ponder rather some actual mystery.
All this could have been avoided if Ridley just made a all new sci-fi series that took some inspiration from Alien. And as i've said before if the Prometheus sequel had took it's original path something genuinely interesting could have came out of it. I have no idea, how you could fix Covenant.
Quote from: Alionic on Dec 02, 2017, 09:07:03 PMQuote from: reecebomb on Dec 02, 2017, 06:25:55 PM
and Resurrection is still a better film than Covenant.
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Quote from: reecebomb on Dec 02, 2017, 06:25:55 PM
and Resurrection is still a better film than Covenant.
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 02, 2017, 04:03:51 PMQuote from: acrediblesource on Dec 02, 2017, 02:19:40 PMAgain, as I've said before, I believe this is largely due to the marketing campaign. They should've marketed the movie as artistic biological weirdo film that it is rather than all the RUN PRAY HIDE crap.
We can only maintain the fact that Ridley Scott brought the Alien franchise back from extinction since all the other sequels made everyone disappointed. He brought back the allure and mystery if not bringing up more questions than giving answers. So not only did he stir the pot, he added veggies and meatballs.But A;Cov, proved that the franchise has a problem of making something that everyone expected , that being NOT MEETING EXPECTATION. ANd thats the problem everytime.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Dec 02, 2017, 02:19:40 PM
We can only maintain the fact that Ridley Scott brought the Alien franchise back from extinction since all the other sequels made everyone disappointed. He brought back the allure and mystery if not bringing up more questions than giving answers. So not only did he stir the pot, he added veggies and meatballs.But A;Cov, proved that the franchise has a problem of making something that everyone expected , that being NOT MEETING EXPECTATION. ANd thats the problem everytime.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Dec 02, 2017, 02:19:40 PMAgain, as I've said before, I believe this is largely due to the marketing campaign. They should've marketed the movie as artistic biological weirdo film that it is rather than all the RUN PRAY HIDE crap.
We can only maintain the fact that Ridley Scott brought the Alien franchise back from extinction since all the other sequels made everyone disappointed. He brought back the allure and mystery if not bringing up more questions than giving answers. So not only did he stir the pot, he added veggies and meatballs.But A;Cov, proved that the franchise has a problem of making something that everyone expected , that being NOT MEETING EXPECTATION. ANd thats the problem everytime.
Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 02, 2017, 06:29:53 AM
So he gave them f**kin aliens. He wasn't catering to fanboys who just want marines mowing down dozens of aliens with pulse rifles. It was still Ridley's vision, despite having to change it to accommodate studio demands.
Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 02, 2017, 03:02:30 AM
Just because he can't do whatever he wants, doesn't mean it isn't his vision. Every director is ultimately bound to their financiers. Ridley still has a lot of creative freedom.