Posted by BigDaddyJohn
- Yesterday at 06:58:58 PMThe crab walk is the one thing I have no problem with being cut out of the movie.
Posted by Thatguy2068
- Yesterday at 03:13:10 PMAlien (1979)
Posted by xeno_alpha_07
- Yesterday at 02:55:42 PMTwo images of the Alien from the deleted 'Crab Walk' scene. The one on top was featured on the front of the 1980 Heavey Metal Presents calendar.
Posted by BigDaddyJohn
- May 06, 2024, 12:50:21 PMQuote from: Elmazalman on May 06, 2024, 12:22:38 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 06, 2024, 12:02:50 PMI think head crushes should appear in an alien movie. That's a nasty way of dying.
Perhaps the new film will deliver in that regard?
I'd like to see some more tail-slapping & spiking action.
Absolutely ! Tails are kinda under used in the movies.
Posted by Elmazalman
- May 06, 2024, 12:22:38 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 06, 2024, 12:02:50 PMI think head crushes should appear in an alien movie. That's a nasty way of dying.
Perhaps the new film will deliver in that regard?
I'd like to see some more tail-slapping & spiking action.
Posted by BigDaddyJohn
- May 06, 2024, 12:02:50 PMI think head crushes should appear in an alien movie. That's a nasty way of dying.
Posted by Kradan
- May 06, 2024, 11:09:20 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 06, 2024, 09:21:50 AM... the second one actually looks like a guy in a suit
Far too chubby in the waist area
Posted by SiL
- May 06, 2024, 10:50:34 AMThank you both! I'd seen it asserted but not the supporting arguments.
Posted by xeno_alpha_07
- May 06, 2024, 10:46:40 AMQuote from: SiL on May 06, 2024, 10:15:42 AMI've seen people describe it as a head crush, but the inner jaw and its use was decided by the time the suit was done and used in filming. I think rough cuts were done before the inserts and it just looks like the Alien is crushing Brett's head, but the blood was always meant to be from the bite.
Unless there's some BTS I've overlooked that confirms otherwise.
While the head bite was part of the original plan, Ridley sought to enhance the scene by introducing the concept of head squeezing, etc:
QuoteRidley brought me onto the stage and said: 'I want Brett to get it now, but I just don't want the creature to dart out and menace him to start with. I'd rather have it reach out and sort of caress his head -- almost kind of inquisitive at first. Then you see it squeeze up, and blood starts running down Brett's face, and it cracks his head open.' So we ended up doing it almost on the spur of the moment. We ran blood tubes up into Harry Dean Stanton's cap and through his hair. Then, when the alien started squeezing, we started pumping, and the blood ran out and down his face.
- Alien Effects Book
The presence of blood was initially intended due to the head being squeezed or crushed before the head bite occurred.
*Edit*
Wrote this before seeing Elmazalman's reply.
Posted by Elmazalman
- May 06, 2024, 10:44:17 AMQuote from: SiL on May 06, 2024, 10:15:42 AMI've seen people describe it as a head crush, but the inner jaw and its use was decided by the time the suit was done and used in filming. I think rough cuts were done before the inserts and it just looks like the Alien is crushing Brett's head, but the blood was always meant to be from the bite.
Unless there's some BTS I've overlooked that confirms otherwise.
The blood's coming from the Alien squeezing Brett's head open (Alien Ambience article from 1980). Scott, wanted the Alien to come in and gently caress Brett's head, before violently crushing it in its hands.
Walter Simonson, also described Brett's original death scene: first a head crush, then followed by a head-bite.
That's not to say the raw footage of the dripping blood couldn't also be edited to be a head-bite if needed.
Posted by SiL
- May 06, 2024, 10:15:42 AMI've seen people describe it as a head crush, but the inner jaw and its use was decided by the time the suit was done and used in filming. I think rough cuts were done before the inserts and it just looks like the Alien is crushing Brett's head, but the blood was always meant to be from the bite.
Unless there's some BTS I've overlooked that confirms otherwise.
Unless there's some BTS I've overlooked that confirms otherwise.
Posted by Elmazalman
- May 06, 2024, 10:12:22 AMThat production still looks like it's from the deleted 'head crush' scene?
It could also be an earlier (far bloodier) version of the head-bite (ultimately, a quick insert shot in the finished film) - the way the Alien's face / mouth is close up against the baseball cap ...
Whatever it is, it's an incredible visual. The blood is so red ...
It could also be an earlier (far bloodier) version of the head-bite (ultimately, a quick insert shot in the finished film) - the way the Alien's face / mouth is close up against the baseball cap ...
Whatever it is, it's an incredible visual. The blood is so red ...
Posted by SiL
- May 06, 2024, 09:51:57 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 06, 2024, 09:21:50 AMThe first one looks far bloodier than what's in the film, and the second one actually looks like a guy in a suitFor the mid shot they had a tube under the hat pumping blood, but in the film they didn't use that angle and just went straight from a super tight close up of the impact to the shot from behind.
Posted by Elmazalman
- May 06, 2024, 09:30:57 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 06, 2024, 09:21:50 AMThe first one looks far bloodier than what's in the film, and the second one actually looks like a guy in a suit
Still hoping for that de Lauzirika ALIEN supercut ...
Posted by BigDaddyJohn
- May 06, 2024, 09:21:50 AMThe first one looks far bloodier than what's in the film, and the second one actually looks like a guy in a suit
