Quote from: Hemi on Jul 17, 2017, 06:38:30 AM
Still not as bad as AVP / AVPR & Prometheus. I would watch A3-AC and AR above all those any day of the week.
Quote from: Russ on Jul 15, 2017, 12:09:07 PM
You're both right. I know SpreadEagleBeagle will be angry - but as good (with the obligatory "yet flawed") a film as AL III EN is... it f**ked everything up in terms of future movies. No one really liked it at the time, most people STILL don't like it (OK - prefer it, I like it, but I wish that it didn't exist). The sequence above would have been entirely satisfying - and maybe even would't have relied on Ripley being in it at all after Aliens.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 15, 2017, 03:01:13 PM
Yes, i suspect most people still don't like Alien 3. We have a very tiny cross-section of people on here who are hard-core fans of the series and therefore embraced Alien 3. The casual fans of the series or the people for whom the series had broad appeal have long gone. That is Alien 3's fault.
People wanted a dark Swiss Family Robinson in space after Aliens. That's basically the direction that film took the series in. People wanted the series to be based on certain beloved characters and not just about alien creatures with no personality. They are alligators for all intents and purposes...
Quote from: darkvegetto on Jul 15, 2017, 03:03:02 PM
I find it funny how some of you guys defend AC and say how alien 5 would have been stupid...did you even watch AC did I see a different version... not only was AC stupid..it was a bad movie and RIdley scott is not a legend... he has tenure but that doesn't make you a legend.... Spielberg is a legend..... don't confuse the too
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jul 14, 2017, 06:53:46 PMQuote from: FHGD on Jul 14, 2017, 06:31:08 PM
Alien 1979 "Space Truckers finding Darelect and encountering the Alien"
Aliens 1986 "Ripley and Space Marines return to LV-426 and fight more Aliens"
Alien 3 1992 "Weyland-Yutani brings Aliens back to Earth!"
Alien 4 1997 "Finding the Alien Homeworld and wiping them out once and for all!"
Alien 5 2001 "Alien prequel that features xenomorphs' origins and the Space Jockey race"
That's all I ever wanted as a fan of the Alien Saga
Oh my god. You nailed it. We could've been done. That sequence of films would've been amazing.
Don't ever forget that this is all the fault of Alien 3. The franchise arguably has STILL not recovered.
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jul 14, 2017, 06:10:14 PMQuote from: JokersWarPig on Jul 14, 2017, 05:19:13 PMQuote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jul 14, 2017, 05:14:27 PMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 14, 2017, 05:00:17 PMQuote from: FenGiddel on Jul 14, 2017, 02:13:21 PM
Must've woke up on the wrong side of the bed... Blomkamp has nothing to live down. And I'd say he's reaping exactly what he's sown: consistent fan attention for his artful storytelling. By getting asked about Alien 5 "in every interview from here to kingdom come" is like free publicity, innit?
Yah, in time they will be making a documentary entitled Blomkamp's Alien. The best sci-fi film never made. This film has just gone to martyr status.
The best sci-fi movie never made is Jodorowsky's DUNE, and there is a documentary about it.
Blomkamp's ALIENS 2 is just glorified fan-fiction meant to please ALIENS fans and Cameronites.
Alien 3 fans have such a disdain for Aliens and Cameron...I don't understand it but I find it hilarious.
Actually, I have no disdain for ALIENS and Cameron. I have disdain for the hype, over-appreciation and god status.Quote from: tleilaxu on Jul 14, 2017, 05:51:00 PM
LOL. The ironic thing is it's painfully clear that Jodorowsky's Dune would've been f**king GARBAGE.
I guess I was too subtle in my sarcasm...
QuoteI'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate AC more in the future. I can easily imagine some rabid Alien 5 "fanboy" of today turning 20 in a couple of years and realizing that "Wait a minute, this movie is actually good and has a lot of depth. I guess the I got caught up in the social media frenzy. Lesson learned: the highest upvoted comment is by no means necessarily the most correct comment. I will now have a more open mindset free of social media bias when viewing cinematic art in the future."
Probably.QuoteAt the same time though, I truly hope this Alien 5 thing turns into a meme to haunt Blomkamp forever. Just imagine 20 years into the future, Blomkamp has just released the third part in his District 9 saga which is exactly the same thing as the first one except now the main character is a South African rapper with progeria whose best friend is a conscious robot Walrus, trying to both fight social injustice and his rapid ageing at the same time. During the highly anticipated premier, Blomkamp is interviewed about the movie. The interview goes well, asking about the movie and the production hurtles etc. until the very last question, which would go something like this:
"District 11 has been quite an anticipated movie, but I think I speak for most people when I say that what the fans really want is Alien 5. Are there any plans to resurrect this movie? *Editors note: De-aging the now 90 year old Sigourney Weaver in a respectable way is now technologically feasible*
Neill Blomkamp's face starts reddening, he stammers something which slightly resembles curses directed toward the now deceased Ridley Scott (may peace be upon him) before fleeing the scene with tears rolling down his cheeks.
Quote from: FHGD on Jul 14, 2017, 06:31:08 PMThat's what it was supposed to be. We all know it
Alien 1979 "Space Truckers finding Darelect and encountering the Alien"
Aliens 1986 "Ripley and Space Marines return to LV-426 and fight more Aliens"
Alien 3 1992 "Weyland-Yutani brings Aliens back to Earth!"
Alien 4 1997 "Finding the Alien Homeworld and wiping them out once and for all!"
Alien 5 2001 "Alien prequel that features xenomorphs' origins and the Space Jockey race"
That's all I ever wanted as a fan of the Alien Saga
Quote from: Tonyhartmorph on Jul 14, 2017, 01:39:30 AM
I hope Blomkamp never lives this down, it seems that every time he makes something half decent, hardcore Aliens fans will claim he would have made an amazing film. He's going to be asked about it in every interview from here to kingdom come.
It's called Karma, bitch. Reap it.
You tried your hand and failed.
Quote from: FHGD on Jul 14, 2017, 06:31:08 PM
Alien 1979 "Space Truckers finding Darelect and encountering the Alien"
Aliens 1986 "Ripley and Space Marines return to LV-426 and fight more Aliens"
Alien 3 1992 "Weyland-Yutani brings Aliens back to Earth!"
Alien 4 1997 "Finding the Alien Homeworld and wiping them out once and for all!"
Alien 5 2001 "Alien prequel that features xenomorphs' origins and the Space Jockey race"
That's all I ever wanted as a fan of the Alien Saga
Quote from: FHGD on Jul 14, 2017, 06:31:08 PM
Alien 1979 "Space Truckers finding Darelect and encountering the Alien"
Aliens 1986 "Ripley and Space Marines return to LV-426 and fight more Aliens"
Alien 3 1992 "Weyland-Yutani brings Aliens back to Earth!"
Alien 4 1997 "Finding the Alien Homeworld and wiping them out once and for all!"
Alien 5 2001 "Alien prequel that features xenomorphs' origins and the Space Jockey race"
That's all I ever wanted as a fan of the Alien Saga
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Jul 14, 2017, 05:19:13 PMQuote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jul 14, 2017, 05:14:27 PMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 14, 2017, 05:00:17 PMQuote from: FenGiddel on Jul 14, 2017, 02:13:21 PM
Must've woke up on the wrong side of the bed... Blomkamp has nothing to live down. And I'd say he's reaping exactly what he's sown: consistent fan attention for his artful storytelling. By getting asked about Alien 5 "in every interview from here to kingdom come" is like free publicity, innit?
Yah, in time they will be making a documentary entitled Blomkamp's Alien. The best sci-fi film never made. This film has just gone to martyr status.
The best sci-fi movie never made is Jodorowsky's DUNE, and there is a documentary about it.
Blomkamp's ALIENS 2 is just glorified fan-fiction meant to please ALIENS fans and Cameronites.
Alien 3 fans have such a disdain for Aliens and Cameron...I don't understand it but I find it hilarious.
Quote from: tleilaxu on Jul 14, 2017, 05:51:00 PM
LOL. The ironic thing is it's painfully clear that Jodorowsky's Dune would've been f**king GARBAGE.
QuoteI'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate AC more in the future. I can easily imagine some rabid Alien 5 "fanboy" of today turning 20 in a couple of years and realizing that "Wait a minute, this movie is actually good and has a lot of depth. I guess the I got caught up in the social media frenzy. Lesson learned: the highest upvoted comment is by no means necessarily the most correct comment. I will now have a more open mindset free of social media bias when viewing cinematic art in the future."
QuoteAt the same time though, I truly hope this Alien 5 thing turns into a meme to haunt Blomkamp forever. Just imagine 20 years into the future, Blomkamp has just released the third part in his District 9 saga which is exactly the same thing as the first one except now the main character is a South African rapper with progeria whose best friend is a conscious robot Walrus, trying to both fight social injustice and his rapid ageing at the same time. During the highly anticipated premier, Blomkamp is interviewed about the movie. The interview goes well, asking about the movie and the production hurtles etc. until the very last question, which would go something like this:
"District 11 has been quite an anticipated movie, but I think I speak for most people when I say that what the fans really want is Alien 5. Are there any plans to resurrect this movie? *Editors note: De-aging the now 90 year old Sigourney Weaver in a respectable way is now technologically feasible*
Neill Blomkamp's face starts reddening, he stammers something which slightly resembles curses directed toward the now deceased Ridley Scott (may peace be upon him) before fleeing the scene with tears rolling down his cheeks.