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Title: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 05:52:04 AM

iTunes has released the HD digital version of Prometheus today which features 4 new alternate and deleted scenes from the film. Below you can find a selection of exclusive images from said scenes, including the “The Engineer Speaks” and “Final Battle”. The other two additional scenes are “Skin” and “Janek fills Vickers in”. You can grab your copy of the film here or here at the official store.

Click on the read more button to see all the images.

This digital release also includes audio commentary from Ridley Scott as well as a “Transmision” featurette video (2:43 min) similar to the one released earlier this month.

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Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 06:01:27 AM
These looks very interesting, especially the extended stuff from the Shaw vs. Engineer scene. Looks like the Engineer was actually a character in the original cut of the film instead of a stupid slasher villain in the final cut.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 18, 2012, 06:02:43 AM
These are unfinished:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ds_03_janek-077.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ds_03_janek-083.jpg)

:'(
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 06:03:45 AM
Shaw hits the engineer with the axe a few times. His blood is colored black and for some reason his face/body isn't burned in these. Then it appears burned at the very end of the scene. Guess they didn't finalize the CGI for this scene either.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 06:07:07 AM
Well, there's another blow to any seamless fan edit.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 18, 2012, 06:07:39 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 06:03:45 AM
Shaw hits the engineer with the axe a few times. His blood is colored black and for some reason his face/body isn't burned in these. Then it appears burned at the very end of the scene. Guess they didn't finalize the CGI for this scene either.

So no hopes for a fan edit now. :'( Here's hoping for an extended cut...
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: DaddyYautja on Sep 18, 2012, 06:09:03 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 06:07:07 AM
Well, there's another blow to any seamless fan edit.

The green screen is there.... you can easily replace that with whatever image you want. That's the point of it.

And was the Jock getting a music boner when he heard that violin? Since they are all down with music and so on.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 06:10:47 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 18, 2012, 06:07:39 AM
So no hopes for a fan edit now. :'( Here's hoping for an extended cut...
They'd have to CG burn half the Engineer's face for continuity purposes--or subsititute an unmodified shot of the Engineer throwing Noomi against the door. They'd also have to finish the green screen work on those monitors from the Janek Fills Vickers In scene.

Extended cut looking less likely now--at least not anytime soon.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: boostedlsj on Sep 18, 2012, 06:35:35 AM
Wow The Engineer looking very interested in images of a young Shaw are very interesting and seem as if it will give the Engineer some character. Seeing it in motion could really be cool. Whether I will prefer this portrayal won't be decided till I tuck the Blu-Ray into my bloomers and run out of my local multimedia store............then press PLAY!!!!!! I am SOOOOO excited to watch this on Blu Ray at home with my lady and a 12 pack in the fridge.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 18, 2012, 06:55:18 AM
The Janek/Vickers scene and the Engineer creep and chase look like keepers - if they were finished.  But I'd have to watch them.  And I'm not willing to pay for a digital copy a couple weeks early.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: whiterabbit on Sep 18, 2012, 07:18:12 AM
The scene of the engineer watching the video transmission; almost standing there in awe... probably gets totally ruined once Shaw axes him in the back.

Why was so much of this cut down and out. I don't see the difference between 2 hours and 2:10? They ran out of time. ???
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: zuzuki on Sep 18, 2012, 07:29:09 AM
Imagine the engineer being surprised about the humans ability to create something so beautiful as music and being impressed about it. maybe even changes his minds about destroying them and then BAM, he takes a axe to the back and says ''screw this shit'', back to killing mode.
So far from what i see so far it seems that these are alternate scenes just like the ones with Firfield. Ridley filmed both variants just like he said when he was in production. One version for a pg-13 cut and smaller run-time,and another version for a r rating and longer runtime. The only question is why the hell don't they release the whole cut. Right now because these scenes are added as a bonus, i doubt we will see another directors cut in the coming years since all the scenes are available. Shame
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 07:31:51 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 18, 2012, 07:18:12 AM
The scene of the engineer watching the video transmission; almost standing there in awe... probably gets totally ruined once Shaw axes him in the back.

Why was so much of this cut down and out. I don't see the difference between 2 hours and 2:10? They ran out of time. ???

Actually the Engineer is staring at the video transmission, then David talks to Shaw via radio and consequently gives away her hiding spot. The engineer turns around and sees her, they stare at each other and the fight begins.

The engineer also seems fascinated by the sound Vicker's crystal lamp makes.

Edit: In the audio commentary, Ridley Scott says that the "physical writing of music is a code". Basically says that music is universal which is the reason why he wanted the girl playing the violin on the video transmission.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Alien³ on Sep 18, 2012, 08:22:30 AM
If they were to make an extended version I see it coming out a few months before Prometheus 2. If that is made of course. I still have hope for a longer cut.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Darth Vile on Sep 18, 2012, 08:58:32 AM
After seeing those shots I'd defo like to see more engineer pondering on the achievements of humans (if indeed that's what he is pondering).
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Salt The Fries on Sep 18, 2012, 09:01:29 AM
In a nutshell: they removed all scenes that featured character development. What a pathetic behaviour...
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Spaghetti on Sep 18, 2012, 09:07:56 AM
More Engees? Cool.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg803.imageshack.us%2Fimg803%2F4309%2Fds01engineerspeaks034.jpg&hash=56f65e6aaf92bda8163be37c8c9207e0d8f29691)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Darth Vile on Sep 18, 2012, 09:12:32 AM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Sep 18, 2012, 09:01:29 AM
In a nutshell: they removed all scenes that featured character development. What a pathetic behaviour...
Most scenes that end up on the cutting room floor tend to be 'talky' expositional scenes or sequences... which can be argued develop character more. However, as obvious as it seems, it is a fine art to balance the best flow for a film whilst giving the characters enough time to breath. I think these scenes were removed to quicken the pace of the movie and not to remove character development per se. It's always a trade off.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Zenzucht on Sep 18, 2012, 09:36:58 AM
When the Prometheus BD is released, you have my permission to make spoofs..

No, seriously, it would be cool if somebody put Charlize ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ge6SXLA12k#noexternalembed-ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ge6SXLA12k#noexternalembed-ws) ) on that huge screen in the scene when Engineer is awed by the girl with the violin. That would be hilarious :D
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: szkoki on Sep 18, 2012, 10:36:03 AM
i have to admit more of this movie is more cool because i love the actors in it, i love the music and the directing, the scenes, the sets, the dialogues...ok it has mistakes, lame mistakes but i watched...i dunno why a dozen of times at least, tell me why!

Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 18, 2012, 06:02:43 AM
These are unfinished:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ds_03_janek-077.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ds_03_janek-083.jpg)

:'(

exactly that scene where is more Janek and where it proves that Vickers is a human after all!!!!!!!! BUT WE NEED AMBIGIUTY!!! NO, not in these TERMS FOR F SAKE!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 18, 2012, 11:00:06 AM
So far I would like to see all the deleted scenes back in but now we're going to have to wait for an official release of an extended cut. :'(
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Space Sweeper on Sep 18, 2012, 11:11:22 AM
Seeing how much important character stuff Scott cut out, I'm not sure I want him touching The Forever War anymore. It's annoyingly self-masturbatory how he cut down the most intimate moments (which was, even more frustratingly, shot) from the script or removed them altogether to narrow it down to a tight, but poorly edited two-hour reel of beautiful visual effects. Too bad the one trick he doesn't care about is making any of it compelling.

Seems Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof are on very different pages when it comes to 'effective ambiguity'. "Let them figure it out, in the meantime LOOK AT THIS" vs "Provide logic for ambiguity but keep a satisfying balance between the unspoken and what's presented". Whatever floats your boat but leaves everybody else's stirring in circles, Ridley.

I need a drink.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ds_04_finalbattle-055.jpg)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Valaquen on Sep 18, 2012, 12:35:43 PM
The extended Engineer stuff looks very, very interesting. Too bad he turned out to be Michael Myers in the final film.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 05:33:53 PM
The extended engineer scene I actually liked. "Janeks fills vickers in" was interesting but meh in my opinion. I'm really dissapointed the fight at the end was cut, after having watched it, I really enjoyed it. What I'm really dissapointed in is how lacking in the extras the itunes release is. I was hoping to see the alternate fifield scene and other scenes.

COMMENTARY BY RIDLEY:

"..so this is a good eeeeevolution....it evolves....this is an emotional point....she's pregant and it's quite humorous and creepy...these two guys are the comic relief (milburn and fifield)...ian did a pretty good job in this scene....and don't leave to get your keys because heres the final eeevolution....so he's got a pointed head...like a deacon officer in a church....i thought we did a good job" /End.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Anarchist86ed on Sep 18, 2012, 05:55:49 PM
The Engineer is a big fan of Daisy Diamond.  :laugh:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ds_04_finalbattle-1731.jpg)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: acrediblesource on Sep 18, 2012, 06:12:13 PM
eerr... not the best screenshot ever.

Quote from: Anarchist86ed on Sep 18, 2012, 05:55:49 PM
The Engineer is a big fan of Daisy Diamond.  :laugh:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ds_04_finalbattle-1731.jpg)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
As the title sequence begins:
Quote
Ridley Scott
...The title sequence for the word 'Prometheus', which I've finally managed to say without litthhping...er,
Prometheus, as you know, was the demi-god who, actually, went against the gods and
was punished in the most barbarous fashion by having his entrails picked out by eagles every evening
and, I think, it was in the following morning that he had new entrails and, er, that evening they were
then re-picked out again. So it was really a metaphor for a being challenging the gods. In a funny kind
of way that's what this sort of about. The platform is about who made us and if they aren't gods: who made
them? So it's discussing that chain of events that, actually, represents of creation.

Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: fiveways on Sep 18, 2012, 06:28:41 PM
Yeah, I am in the "we will get an extended cut when 2 is on the way out" crowd.  They will finish up the cg then and release it unaltered.

We all blame Ridley for the bad edit, but probably Tom Rothman had something to do with it as well.  He really wanted it under 2 hours because if they couldnt cut it to a PG-13, they might as well have as many shows as possible.

But, the good news is even though prometheus didn't do amazing domestically, it still made more money overall then STAR TREK.  Not by a lot, but for a rated R film, that really says something.

Maybe next time we will get a harder R. 
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 06:29:08 PM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
As the title sequence begins:
Quote
Ridley Scott
...The title sequence for the word 'Prometheus', which I've finally managed to say without litthhping...er,
Prometheus, as you know, was the demi-god who, actually, went against the gods and
was punished in the most barbarous fashion by having his entrails picked out by eagles every evening
and, I think, it was in the following morning that he had new entrails and, er, that evening they were
then re-picked out again. So it was really a metaphor for a being challenging the gods. In a funny kind
of way that's what this sort of about. The platform is about who made us and if they aren't gods: who made
them? So it's discussing that chain of events that, actually, represents of creation.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fteamorthodoxy.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F05%2Fjackiechan.png%3Fw%3D604&hash=a515b6082707f284436ee0609f19874ac735935d)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: fiveways on Sep 18, 2012, 06:30:27 PM
Also, between this and the 10 minutes of outtakes that leaked, how many are left?

Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 06:32:52 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Sep 18, 2012, 06:30:27 PM
Also, between this and the 10 minutes of outtakes that leaked, how many are left?

* ARRIVAL OF THE ENGINEERS [2:31]
* OUR FIRST ALIEN [0:42]
* HOLLOWAY HUNGOVER [1:25]
* FIFIELD ATTACKS [2:01]
* PARADISE [5:05]
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: zakzak on Sep 18, 2012, 07:05:22 PM
I actually prefer the Engineers to speak less...
Once he speaks this has become STAR TREK territory with Federation of Alien Races fighting each other
Lindelof is warming up for future STAR TREK sequels?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: fiveways on Sep 18, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 06:32:52 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Sep 18, 2012, 06:30:27 PM
Also, between this and the 10 minutes of outtakes that leaked, how many are left?

* ARRIVAL OF THE ENGINEERS [2:31]
* OUR FIRST ALIEN [0:42]
* HOLLOWAY HUNGOVER [1:25]
* FIFIELD ATTACKS [2:01]
* PARADISE [5:05]

thank you.  I am really excited to see what PARADISE is.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 18, 2012, 07:16:16 PM
I like the scene without him speaking.  Put the Weyland speech back in, cut the Engineer talking.

The Janek/Vickers scene is great.  As is the final battle.  The moment between the Engineer and Shaw when they just stare at each other is boss.  It's a more creepy, intimate sequence.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: nieves50 on Sep 18, 2012, 07:44:32 PM
So.....
Are these scenes in the movie released in itunes or just as extras?...I'm not wasting any more money to see the "chopped up" version again.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:06:38 PM
The best moment of the last fight:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2F11rq9ef.jpg&hash=539cf7c277b7387116a31cca05c37bc74186a0b1)
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...and the best possible moment...

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2Figxeop.jpg&hash=1a461f74b940c4a985f7c80677f3e7bee4059334)
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(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.tinypic.com%2F6ycfsx.jpg&hash=eb19b047351b41a00c5e469d73a2c04f60dfd125)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 18, 2012, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:06:38 PM
The best moment of the last fight:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2F11rq9ef.jpg&hash=539cf7c277b7387116a31cca05c37bc74186a0b1)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi48.tinypic.com%2F2hhzqww.jpg&hash=c42d1332a1b538bf763a25beef619c7cef8ef097)
...and the best possible moment...

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2Figxeop.jpg&hash=1a461f74b940c4a985f7c80677f3e7bee4059334)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi48.tinypic.com%2Ffz9cj.jpg&hash=6ea065e89dae4a3ce7c0a287d4b490f21eb3862f)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.tinypic.com%2Fwuijki.jpg&hash=89504561ed32faf7646467906d1a0c8163d7742c)
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:O Where did you get these screens or scenes? 8)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 18, 2012, 08:19:18 PM
The staredown is the best.

I almost wish they'd kept it going even longer, working each other out.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: DaddyYautja on Sep 18, 2012, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Anarchist86ed on Sep 18, 2012, 05:55:49 PM
The Engineer is a big fan of Daisy Diamond.  :laugh:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ds_04_finalbattle-1731.jpg)

It looks like the Jock has a weakness to holding axes under their armpit.
Or maybe that's where their parts are.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 18, 2012, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:06:38 PM
The best moment of the last fight:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2F11rq9ef.jpg&hash=539cf7c277b7387116a31cca05c37bc74186a0b1)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi48.tinypic.com%2F2hhzqww.jpg&hash=c42d1332a1b538bf763a25beef619c7cef8ef097)
...and the best possible moment...

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2Figxeop.jpg&hash=1a461f74b940c4a985f7c80677f3e7bee4059334)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi48.tinypic.com%2Ffz9cj.jpg&hash=6ea065e89dae4a3ce7c0a287d4b490f21eb3862f)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.tinypic.com%2Fwuijki.jpg&hash=89504561ed32faf7646467906d1a0c8163d7742c)
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:O Where did you get these screens or scenes? 8)

The Print screen key and careful timing.  8)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 18, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
Did you all buy the online version or something? How did you guys get to see this stuff?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: jeffchow on Sep 18, 2012, 08:23:32 PM
rejoice rothman has left the building
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:24:48 PM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 18, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
Did you all buy the online version or something? How did you guys get to see this stuff?

Pre-ordered the itunes version. I'd wait for the blue ray honestly, it's pretty lacking in extras.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 08:25:31 PM
Quote from: jeffchow on Sep 18, 2012, 08:23:32 PM
rejoice rothman has left the building

What makes you think his replacement will be any better?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 18, 2012, 08:26:24 PM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:24:48 PM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 18, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
Did you all buy the online version or something? How did you guys get to see this stuff?

Pre-ordered the itunes version. I'd wait for the blue ray honestly, it's pretty lacking in extras.

Thanks for the answer, i'm in no hurry to get this film anyway  :)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:28:52 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 08:25:31 PM
Quote from: jeffchow on Sep 18, 2012, 08:23:32 PM
rejoice rothman has left the building

What makes you think his replacement will be any better?

Because Rothman's a huge twat.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 08:31:38 PM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:28:52 PM
Because Rothman's a huge twat.
You know the guy replacing him has been his partner for the last decade or so, right?

Meet the new boss, likely same as the old boss.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:32:20 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 08:31:38 PM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:28:52 PM
Because Rothman's a huge twat.
You know the guy replacing him has been his partner for the last decade or so, right?

Meet the new boss, likely same as the old boss.

Ah, well. f**k  :(
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: armageddon on Sep 18, 2012, 08:48:34 PM
http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6# (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6#)

Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Snowdog on Sep 18, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
I found the extended fight scene between shaw and the engineer a bit underwelming. And yes i do agree with Ridley when he said it made the engineer look weaker. He made the right call with the theatrical version.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 18, 2012, 08:53:32 PM
I dunno.  I think the fact that she's able to hack away at him so much is mitigated by the fact that the scene was not fully finished in post to account for the facial wounds and crash injuries.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 18, 2012, 08:55:26 PM
THANK you for this, very much!

Now that i've seen it, I gotta say - the Engineer scene here is a lot more tense, taking its time (instead of the theatrical version where David says, "He's coming," and we abruptly cut to the engineer breaking in). Shaw's "DIEEE!!!" line is absent, which is another plus in my book.  If Riddles feels that the ax swings the creature takes makes it seem weaker, I'm sure a balance between both versions of this scene can be found.

Janek's conversation is also better for story purposes - expanding on who he is and making his comments to Shaw later about the planet being a military facility less random.

I'd think that adding these scenes, along with the Weyland convo, which simply seems more fleshed out and making the engineers anger more apparent, and a better cut Fifield attack, would probably improve the film a lot.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: jeffchow on Sep 18, 2012, 09:15:15 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 08:25:31 PM
Quote from: jeffchow on Sep 18, 2012, 08:23:32 PM
rejoice rothman has left the building

What makes you think his replacement will be any better?
i can dream cant i?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Promethée on Sep 18, 2012, 09:18:43 PM
Quote from: Snowdog on Sep 18, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
I found the extended fight scene between shaw and the engineer a bit underwelming. And yes i do agree with Ridley when he said it made the engineer look weaker. He made the right call with the theatrical version.

I think the extended version builds a lot more tension.
I can't see how can he look weak, since his stabbed multiple times with an axe and still coming at her like a terminator !

Having him killed like a little girl by a tentacle monster from a hentai anime sure made him look like a wuss though.

I can live without the skin discovery and the Vickers/Janek stuff  (why is David asking about Weyland's awakening since he is the one in charge ??)
But the other scenes need to be on the movie.
The complete dialogue with the engineer still doesn't make any sense, but still it feels way more complete, at least they have some interaction with him (it's the main point of the movie remember?)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Virgil on Sep 18, 2012, 09:21:16 PM
Quote from: Snowdog on Sep 18, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
I found the extended fight scene between shaw and the engineer a bit underwelming. And yes i do agree with Ridley when he said it made the engineer look weaker. He made the right call with the theatrical version.

Initially I agreed, though it's worth bearing in mind that the score is very low in the mix with these deleted scenes. I'd imagine that if this could be fixed (which it very well can), the music would inject the thrill back into the fight scene.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: echobbase79 on Sep 18, 2012, 09:29:10 PM

Man they took out all the emotion from this movie. No wonder it felt so empty they cut out all the heart.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: szkoki on Sep 18, 2012, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: armageddon on Sep 18, 2012, 08:48:34 PM
http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6# (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6#)


thx thats sadly a really unfinished work, very hard to make a fan edit from these
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Alienseseses on Sep 18, 2012, 10:15:24 PM
Most of these deleted scenes are great. I loved the TC, but an extended cut would be amazing, if it ever happens...

I feel like there's something off in the extended Shaw-Engineer battle, pacing wise- but it's minor stuff. Clearly it's unfinished- some undone wirework. A few cuts or angle changes were needed. But it's a much more tense and complete scene. When the engineer walks in and watches the video, and then sees Shaw and just looks at her... It really works for me.

I hope one day something comes of it.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: echobbase79 on Sep 18, 2012, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 18, 2012, 10:15:24 PM
Most of these deleted scenes are great. I loved the TC, but an extended cut would be amazing, if it ever happens...

I feel like there's something off in the extended Shaw-Engineer battle, pacing wise- but it's minor stuff. Clearly it's unfinished- some undone wirework. A few cuts or angle changes were needed. But it's a much more tense and complete scene. When the engineer walks in and watches the video, and then sees Shaw and just looks at her... It really works for me.

I hope one day something comes of it.

Yeah, there' so much more going on with the Engineer in this scene. And in my opinion it didn't make him look that weak. She spent most of the time trying to get away from him.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Alienseseses on Sep 18, 2012, 10:23:55 PM
I think my main issues with how the extended version goes are how nonchalantly he enters, and how easily she unleashes the monster. I'd say put a few pacing beats in there.

And I'd prefer the Engineer not to speak, but I liked what Weyland had to say.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: szkoki on Sep 18, 2012, 10:45:00 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 18, 2012, 10:23:55 PM
I think my main issues with how the extended version goes are how nonchalantly he enters, and how easily she unleashes the monster. I'd say put a few pacing beats in there.

And I'd prefer the Engineer not to speak, but I liked what Weyland had to say.

yeah it is but so strange that Engie understand so easily that he want to become a god and david is his creation...without translation or still missing some of the scene?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: whiterabbit on Sep 18, 2012, 11:32:10 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 07:31:51 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 18, 2012, 07:18:12 AM
The scene of the engineer watching the video transmission; almost standing there in awe... probably gets totally ruined once Shaw axes him in the back.

Why was so much of this cut down and out. I don't see the difference between 2 hours and 2:10? They ran out of time. ???

Actually the Engineer is staring at the video transmission, then David talks to Shaw via radio and consequently gives away her hiding spot. The engineer turns around and sees her, they stare at each other and the fight begins.

The engineer also seems fascinated by the sound Vicker's crystal lamp makes.

Edit: In the audio commentary, Ridley Scott says that the "physical writing of music is a code". Basically says that music is universal which is the reason why he wanted the girl playing the violin on the video transmission.
Gave her position away huh. So David is still plotting to kill off the entire crew. Fuken evil.  :laugh:

Do they both go at it or does one commit to an attack first? Also I do love the idea of music being universal and code based. I think that's an idea that far too many people forget about in every society. The importance and power of music and now I wanna hear that lamp sing.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 18, 2012, 11:33:10 PM
Why don't you watch the scenes for yourself?  :) Link is on the previous page.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: whiterabbit on Sep 18, 2012, 11:35:50 PM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 18, 2012, 11:33:10 PM
Why don't you watch the scenes for yourself?  :) Link is on the previous page.
Oh that's because I've been replying to day old comments and didn't know they were up yet.  :laugh:

Thanks.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: departedhero20 on Sep 18, 2012, 11:42:04 PM
a lot of the deleted scdenes made better sense of the movie too bad Ridley decided to f**k us with the same version that many people including myself believe to be a halfass made movie with scenes that dont make no sense and characters who seem to get dumber and dumber has the movie unfolds and that deacon destroyed the movie for me it looks stupid. Ridley you should have released and extended cut like u pretty much do with all ur movies but with this one u screwed us over i hiope u make better work on the sequel than this one.


Alien was a masterpiece Aliens even more amazing Alien 3 could have been better but good none the less Resurrection was the death of a great franchise and prometheus an amazingly well done cgi flick but that has far has it goes i think the story and the characters and the way the movie was cut completely f**ked this one still way better than resurrection though but im disappointed i expected  more than what we got i didn't care if the xenomorph was not gonna be shown because i expected it but the trailers are actually better and more suspenseful then the movie this was like the avp of alien movies and thats saying a lot.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: whiterabbit on Sep 18, 2012, 11:59:06 PM
Those scenes help to make sense for a lot of the movie and were awesome. The first was a homage to say that yep, they're aliens in this universe. The WMD talk also put more relevance into Janek's Shaw talk. More engineer is good too. He operated the door scene so fast that I have a feeling he already knew English and that there was no need for them to speak in his native tongue. Although he may not have been able to speak English. He also may have been one of those that visited the earth. Maybe even space Jesus himself. ala the resurrection. Jesus was basically thought dead to only later get up and leave haha. aka as being away when the outbreak happened to only return and find everyone dead.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 12:10:43 AM
Argh some of these deleted scenes are solid.. and watching them is making me depressed.... gonna stop right now. :P
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: BANE on Sep 19, 2012, 12:13:50 AM
Where are you people watching them from?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 19, 2012, 12:14:14 AM
The engineer sure did have a fondness for decorations.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: eyeballkid on Sep 19, 2012, 12:19:39 AM
I like them all, they should have been in the movie. Can't wait to see more. ;)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 12:21:59 AM
Quote from: BANE on Sep 19, 2012, 12:13:50 AM
Where are you people watching them from?

http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6# (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6#)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 12:53:38 AM
The fight between the engineer and Elizabeth was not necessary.It was a right cut.That scene diminishes the importance of the character despite being very well made.
And I think the dialogue between Vickers and Janek should be in the final cut.Or at least a part of it.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: BANE on Sep 19, 2012, 12:54:40 AM
Just watched them.

Boy, I'm surprised by how good they truly are. A full version with those included might just turn a bunch of folks towards the like.

Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: PsyKore on Sep 19, 2012, 01:23:26 AM
Why were these cut again? They were terrific.

My only gripe is probably the fight scene, but I do love beforehand when the Engineer is watching the violin girl.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 01:48:50 AM
Just seen the extended cut.... have to say I think all of it should have been in the movie myself, here are my own thoughts...

When Fifield and Milburn find the skin it does seem a little incidental, doesn't really matter, but it's a nice nod to Alien so why not. 

The scene with Janek and Vickers just gives a little bit more depth to the characters, particularly Vickers who was underused anyway, while Janeks suspicions about the Engineers really has meaning rather just been random when he blurts it out to Shaw later.

I'm still a bit undecided about hearing the Engineer speak, but together with Weyland's own speech the whole scene makes so much more sense, and like someone else here mentioned, I also believe the Engineer possibly understood english.

As for the final scene, yes it does kind of make the Engineer seem weaker, but there was so much tension in that scene.  It also added a bit of humanity to the  Engineer, he could be hurt, and if we came from them why shouldn't he feel pain. 
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 02:08:02 AM
I agree with everyone who said all the deleted scenes should be kept in.

They all add something of value to the film.

And the scene where Shaw fights the Engineer was perfectly executed and far better than the version in the theatrical cut.  The Engineer doesn't seem weaker.  I mean she gets a few hits in with the axe and he still finds the strength to fight.  If it was her being hit with the axe, she'd probably be dead.  And she doesn't scream, "Diiiiiiiiiiiiieeeee!!!"  Everything felt naturally paced.  And it was one of very few scenes where there was a nice buildup as opposed to the MTV type editing throughout the film in the theatrical cut.

Can't wait to see the other scenes now.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: eyeballkid on Sep 19, 2012, 02:20:21 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 02:08:02 AM
I agree with everyone who said all the deleted scenes should be kept in.

They all add something of value to the film.

And the scene where Shaw fights the Engineer was perfectly executed and far better than the version in the theatrical cut.  The Engineer doesn't seem weaker.  I mean she gets a few hits in with the axe and he still finds the strength to fight.  If it was her being hit with the axe, she'd probably be dead.  And she doesn't scream, "Diiiiiiiiiiiiieeeee!!!"  Everything felt naturally paced.  And it was one of very few scenes where there was a nice buildup as opposed to the MTV type editing throughout the film in the theatrical cut.

Can't wait to see the other scenes now.
I agree, such a shame .
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 02:35:41 AM
One thing I did notice... you dont see how the Engineers face gets burned in the extended scene, it suddenly appears that way as the Trilobite gets him. Also the shot where he pushes Shaw towards the MedPod room door is missing, with his face burnt, but it's in the theatrical version.  I always assumed he got burned from something that happened during the crash, a logical assumption really, but apparently not.  Obviously something else is missing, so how do you guys think this fight scene could have played out??? 
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: whiterabbit on Sep 19, 2012, 02:39:51 AM
Did any one notice how just before Shaw released the Trilobite that it almost appeared as if the engineer was about to little mouth her alien style in the head?

I think the only thing that should have been cut was David saying sorry as his head hit the ground.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 19, 2012, 02:52:54 AM
QuoteI also believe the Engineer possibly understood english.

Possibly but unlikely. Remember that the engineer was in stasis for 2,000 years. The english language as we know it didn't exist and the engineer only had about 30 seconds to absorb the language they were speaking. More than likely he took in what David said to him in his own language, along with the mannerisms, tones and body language of Prometheus crew and got the gist of it pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 02:56:55 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 02:35:41 AM
One thing I did notice... you dont see how the Engineers face gets burned in the extended scene, it suddenly appears that way as the Trilobite gets him. Also the shot where he pushes Shaw towards the MedPod room door is missing, with his face burnt, but it's in the theatrical version.  I always assumed he got burned from something that happened during the crash, a logical assumption really, but apparently not.  Obviously something else is missing, so how do you guys think this fight scene could have played out???

I'm thinking it was during the crash.  It's just that the CGI is unfinished. :'(
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: whiterabbit on Sep 19, 2012, 03:07:17 AM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 19, 2012, 02:52:54 AM
QuoteI also believe the Engineer possibly understood english.

Possibly but unlikely. Remember that the engineer was in stasis for 2,000 years. The english language as we know it didn't exist and the engineer only had about 30 seconds to absorb the language they were speaking. More than likely he took in what David said to him in his own language, along with the mannerisms, tones and body language of Prometheus crew and got the gist of it pretty quickly.
Actually someone did visit humans after whatever happened 2000 years ago according to their rock pictures. It could have been this same engineer. I mean, after all, all you ever see in the picture is one engineer.

Holy shit, we crucified Space Jesus twice!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 03:08:25 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 02:56:55 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 02:35:41 AM
One thing I did notice... you dont see how the Engineers face gets burned in the extended scene, it suddenly appears that way as the Trilobite gets him. Also the shot where he pushes Shaw towards the MedPod room door is missing, with his face burnt, but it's in the theatrical version.  I always assumed he got burned from something that happened during the crash, a logical assumption really, but apparently not.  Obviously something else is missing, so how do you guys think this fight scene could have played out???

I'm thinking it was during the crash.  It's just that the CGI is unfinished. :'(

A CGI burn on his FACE...but why... they can do that with make up??? 
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Barringer on Sep 19, 2012, 03:13:23 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 19, 2012, 03:07:17 AM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 19, 2012, 02:52:54 AM
QuoteI also believe the Engineer possibly understood english.

Possibly but unlikely. Remember that the engineer was in stasis for 2,000 years. The english language as we know it didn't exist and the engineer only had about 30 seconds to absorb the language they were speaking. More than likely he took in what David said to him in his own language, along with the mannerisms, tones and body language of Prometheus crew and got the gist of it pretty quickly.
Actually someone did visit humans after whatever happened 2000 years ago according to their rock pictures. It could have been this same engineer. I mean, after all, all you ever see in the picture is one engineer.

Holy shit, we crucified Space Jesus twice!  :laugh:

The last engineer was apparently in stasis since the incident 2000 years prior so I don't see how he could have visited Earth after the incident on LV-223. A Hollywood scenario is that the Engineers visiting Earth more recently than 2000 years ago influenced linguistic development! The Engineers already spoke English!

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AliensSpeakingEnglish (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AliensSpeakingEnglish)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 03:14:49 AM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand I finally got to see these.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there's all the proof you need that the theatrical cut is a studio-enforced Alien 3 theatrical cut-style hatchet job.

The Janek Fills Vickers In scene is very good. Probably the best written (not that that says much, necessarily) scene in the whole film--and naturally, they cut it. And it's the best single scene for both Charlize and Elba's performances. AND it lays out Janek's suspicions about the site in FAR better fashion than that shitty, hastily shot exposition dump of a reshoot where he randomly busts in on Shaw and says out of nowhere what he thinks is going on.

The Engineer Speaks scene, despite the clumsily on the nose Weyland monologue ("I'M A GOD TOO!!!1!"--subtle, Lindelof), more or less actually f**king works.

And the Shaw vs. the Engineer scene is so much better that the shaved down snippet we got in the film almost seems like a sick joke.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 03:15:46 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 03:08:25 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 02:56:55 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 02:35:41 AM
One thing I did notice... you dont see how the Engineers face gets burned in the extended scene, it suddenly appears that way as the Trilobite gets him. Also the shot where he pushes Shaw towards the MedPod room door is missing, with his face burnt, but it's in the theatrical version.  I always assumed he got burned from something that happened during the crash, a logical assumption really, but apparently not.  Obviously something else is missing, so how do you guys think this fight scene could have played out???

I'm thinking it was during the crash.  It's just that the CGI is unfinished. :'(

A CGI burn on his FACE...but why... they can do that with make up???

I know. :'(


Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 03:14:49 AM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand I finally got to see these.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there's all the proof you need that the theatrical cut is a studio-enforced Alien 3 theatrical cut-style hatchet job.

The Janek Fills Vickers In scene is very good. Probably the best written (not that that says much, necessarily) scene in the whole film--and naturally, they cut it. And it's the best single scene for both Charlize and Elba's performances. AND it lays out Janek's suspicions about the site in FAR better fashion than that shitty, hastily shot exposition dump of a reshoot where he randomly busts in on Shaw and says out of nowhere what he thinks is going on.

The Engineer Speaks scene, despite the clumsily on the nose Weyland monologue ("I'M A GOD TOO!!!1!"--subtle, Lindelof), more or less actually f**king works.

And the Shaw vs. the Engineer scene is so much better that the shaved down snippet we got in the film almost seems like a sick joke.

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Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 03:21:31 AM
Quote from: Barringer on Sep 19, 2012, 03:13:23 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 19, 2012, 03:07:17 AM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 19, 2012, 02:52:54 AM
QuoteI also believe the Engineer possibly understood english.

Possibly but unlikely. Remember that the engineer was in stasis for 2,000 years. The english language as we know it didn't exist and the engineer only had about 30 seconds to absorb the language they were speaking. More than likely he took in what David said to him in his own language, along with the mannerisms, tones and body language of Prometheus crew and got the gist of it pretty quickly.
Actually someone did visit humans after whatever happened 2000 years ago according to their rock pictures. It could have been this same engineer. I mean, after all, all you ever see in the picture is one engineer.

Holy shit, we crucified Space Jesus twice!  :laugh:

The last engineer was apparently in stasis since the incident 2000 years prior so I don't see how he could have visited Earth after the incident on LV-223. A Hollywood scenario is that the Engineers visiting Earth more recently than 2000 years ago influenced linguistic development! The Engineers already spoke English!

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AliensSpeakingEnglish (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AliensSpeakingEnglish)

Yes I also thought something along these lines.  Ive always been of the opinion that it was a rogue group of Engineers that set out to destroy us and failed, while the people from their home world had been watching us ever since and helping us develop. I also wondered if perhaps in time we would also evolve into Engineers, and that some were against creating their origins from the start in case somewhere along the line, in our history, we took a turn for the worst...which it seems is exactly what happened.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: bobcunk on Sep 19, 2012, 03:22:08 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 19, 2012, 03:07:17 AM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 19, 2012, 02:52:54 AM
QuoteI also believe the Engineer possibly understood english.

Possibly but unlikely. Remember that the engineer was in stasis for 2,000 years. The english language as we know it didn't exist and the engineer only had about 30 seconds to absorb the language they were speaking. More than likely he took in what David said to him in his own language, along with the mannerisms, tones and body language of Prometheus crew and got the gist of it pretty quickly.
Actually someone did visit humans after whatever happened 2000 years ago according to their rock pictures. It could have been this same engineer. I mean, after all, all you ever see in the picture is one engineer.

Holy shit, we crucified Space Jesus twice!  :laugh:
I think the cave paintings were older than 2000 years.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: BANE on Sep 19, 2012, 03:22:25 AM
I actually agree with cvalda.

Off to weathernetwork.com to see what temperature Hell is.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 03:23:08 AM
Soooo...

Where are all the Ridley apologists now?

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Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 03:34:33 AM
eh! I enjoyed the theatrical cut, flaws and all..... but after seeing how much better it could have been? Dammit Ridley.

YOU DROPPED THE BALL.

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Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 03:43:40 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 03:23:08 AM
Soooo...

Where are all the Ridley apologists now?

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9290/oprahtakeogifsoupcom.gif

Yeah, but you know what the ironic thing is.... as much as we all wanted believe in old Riddles, accepting this movie as his version for all it's faults, some of us even believing that maybe what was left on the cutting room floor wouldn't have many any difference, when all the time HOW F***ING RIGHT WE WERE!!  This version was just a con to get bums on seats and Mr Scott you have made an ass of yourself trying to convince us otherwise, the truth is out there and I certainly won't be buying this until there is an extended cut.... in my opinion of course! :-)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 03:48:30 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 03:43:40 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 03:23:08 AM
Soooo...

Where are all the Ridley apologists now?

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9290/oprahtakeogifsoupcom.gif

Yeah, but you know what the ironic thing is.... as much as we all wanted believe in old Riddles, accepting this movie as his version for all it's faults, some of us even believing that maybe what was left on the cutting room floor wouldn't have many any difference, when all the time HOW F***ING RIGHT WE WERE!!  This version was just a con to get bums on seats and Mr Scott you have made an ass of yourself trying to convince us otherwise... the truth is out there and I certainly won't be buying this until there is an extended cut.... in my opinion of course! :-)

Exactly.  Ridley screwed us over.

There better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.  It just feels like they're ripping us off as much as possible.  They can't even give us the option of playing the film with the deleted scenes re-inserted seamlessly?  They don't care for the fans.  They care for how much we can shell out for different sets.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 03:49:15 AM
The shot where the Engineer and Noomi pause to quietly regard each other before their altercation actually gave me a chill. And the best part of the Engineer Speaks scene? "If she doesn't shut up, shoot her." Immediately makes it clear why the Engineer goes on his killing spree, and after witnessing Shaw being beaten, makes his pause before going after her in the escape module that much more ambiguous and interesting.


BUT LOLOLOLOLOLOL, who needs that shit, right?
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Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ShadowPred on Sep 19, 2012, 03:50:42 AM
Engineer scene should have been longer. Added dialog is good, but I wanted MOAR!!!!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 03:52:59 AM
There are still a few more deleted scenes, right?

"Paradise" being one if i remember correctly.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 03:54:05 AM
I'm also wondering if we'll see more of the Deacon as "suggested" by the Prometheus art book....!!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AM
QuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.

Or what?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 04:03:49 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AM
QuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.

Or what?

Or they (Ridley, Fox and co.) can count on losing fans.

And no matter how miniscule that amount of angry fans may be, fans = money.  They should be keeping them.  Not pushing them away with idiotic decisions.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 04:05:20 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 03:52:59 AM
There are still a few more deleted scenes, right?

"Paradise" being one if i remember correctly.

I'm probably wrong here, but I can't help thinking Paradise could be slightly misleading... I mean why would we see anything of the Homeworld when it seems clear all that was meant for part 2?

....I still think Paradise is simply an extension of David seeing more of Shaw's dream.  Paradise is what her father says is were we go when we die, we know David knows of his death so it's possibly her fathers fate David sees.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:07:07 AM
Paradise is where they are going. It's just going to be the ending we have now extended, probably with more dialogue, and maybe even a shot of the Deacon leaving the escape module and walking toward the crashed Derelict as featured in the previz art.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 04:08:57 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 04:03:49 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AM
QuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.

Or what?

Or they (Ridley, Fox and co.) can count on losing fans.

And no matter how miniscule that amount of angry fans may be, fans = money.  They should be keeping them.  Not pushing them away with idiotic decisions.

....the thing is though, as much as we may feel cheated, the studio got what they wanted by doing what they wanted. Sometimes it's very hard to argue that stuff...better to just wait for the inevitable....which I'm certain will happen.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:10:25 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 04:08:57 AM
....the thing is though, as much as we may feel cheated, the studio got what they wanted by doing what they wanted.
Not really. The film barely made its budget back after what were surely exorbitant advertising costs.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 04:22:47 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:10:25 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 04:08:57 AM
....the thing is though, as much as we may feel cheated, the studio got what they wanted by doing what they wanted.
Not really. The film barely made its budget back after what were surely exorbitant advertising costs.

Hmm, I dunno about that, it's debatable I suppose but as I understand it, statistically they say a movie needs to make at least twice it's budget to break even. Prometheus already did that before it was released in Japan and currently stands at $386,664,904 before the Blu-Ray/DVD release, so it's well in the money from what I see.

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=prometheus.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=prometheus.htm)

Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: And stuff on Sep 19, 2012, 04:23:54 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 03:34:33 AM
eh! I enjoyed the theatrical cut, flaws and all..... but after seeing how much better it could have been? Dammit Ridley.

YOU DROPPED THE BALL.

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/759496_o.gif

My thoughts exactly.  I hope there's a director's cut with all the deleted scenes intact so we can see them in context.  I enjoyed the movie, though admittedly not as much as the naive part of me would have liked.  Though I can't help but feel like we got the short straw.. at least until a director's cut is released.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 04:31:48 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 04:03:49 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AM
QuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.

Or what?

Or they (Ridley, Fox and co.) can count on losing fans.

And no matter how miniscule that amount of angry fans may be, fans = money.  They should be keeping them.  Not pushing them away with idiotic decisions.

I'm sure they're shitting bricks something chronic.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 04:39:03 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 03:49:15 AM
The shot where the Engineer and Noomi pause to quietly regard each other before their altercation actually gave me a chill. And the best part of the Engineer Speaks scene? "If she doesn't shut up, shoot her." Immediately makes it clear why the Engineer goes on his killing spree, and after witnessing Shaw being beaten, makes his pause before going after her in the escape module that much more ambiguous and interesting.


BUT LOLOLOLOLOLOL, who needs that shit, right?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hartfordmovies.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F05%2Fridley-scott-cigar-300x300.jpg&hash=d5ac538d1c12f8f9f6cade3fa6d0c92700026f7a)

Why the f**k, did they even cut that, then. :(
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:40:12 AM
Quote from: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 04:39:03 AM
Why the f**k, did they even cut that, then. :(
$$$$$

Had to get that runtime down to two hours to max out those daily screening numbers.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 04:45:10 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 04:31:48 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 04:03:49 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AM
QuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.

Or what?

Or they (Ridley, Fox and co.) can count on losing fans.

And no matter how miniscule that amount of angry fans may be, fans = money.  They should be keeping them.  Not pushing them away with idiotic decisions.

I'm sure they're shitting bricks something chronic.

That's your response?  K...

QuoteAnd no matter how miniscule that amount of angry fans may be, fans = money.  They should be keeping them.  Not pushing them away with idiotic decisions.

I don't care if they're making a profit.  It's still a negative action that has a negative impact.  And more and more people are learning how the theatrical cut was a hack job.  That will affect some fans' reception of the sequel, even if in a small way.

But never mind, I'm not going to get into any silly argument over this.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Barringer on Sep 19, 2012, 04:46:07 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:40:12 AM
Quote from: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 04:39:03 AM
Why the f**k, did they even cut that, then. :(
$$$$$

Had to get that runtime down to two hours to max out those daily screening numbers.

How do you think you would have felt about the film if it kept those scenes in?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 04:46:15 AM
It was a solid success commercially and a reasonable one critically, and they greenlit the sequel fast.  It made money and got eyes, and that's their bottom line.  Threatening them on the Internet isn't going to change a thing.  I do think that given the film's success, P2/Paradise is very likely to have much more latitude in terms of running time and rating.  Which I think is good for everyone.

IIRC, Weyland orders his man to shoot Shaw if she talks again in the theatrical cut, not just the deleted version of the big scene.  I liked the theatrical, I like some of the deleted material, I'd like an extended cut too.  It's all gravy to me.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 04:46:46 AM
Good Lord, let's cut out all the important and intimate moments in favor of incoherent visual eye candy :P
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 04:47:26 AM
Yep, he is a business man first apparently.... who just happened to make arguably the best sci-fi monster movie ever, on a tight budget at the time, and even then he was tied to certain studio constraints.  Makes you wonder what really went on behind closed doors doesn't it lol!!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:13 AM
Not really.

QuoteThat's your response?  K...


When a fans threatens the studio - what would you expect?  They've got your money already and they'll get it again for the sequel.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:52:33 AM
There's about as much chance of this getting a sequel as there is Predators getting a sequel.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 04:54:03 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:13 AM
They've got your money already and they'll get it again for the sequel.

"f**k the fans. We already have their money." - rumored to have been said by Tom Rothman, behind the scenes of Xmen Origins: Wolverine.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 04:54:11 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 04:03:49 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AM
QuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.

Or what?

Or they (Ridley, Fox and co.) can count on losing fans.

And no matter how miniscule that amount of angry fans may be, fans = money.  They should be keeping them.  Not pushing them away with idiotic decisions.

I know what you're trying to say but no mate...it's "custom" that equals money...that's the sad part and always will be in business!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 04:56:24 AM
I don't think the theatrical version was a hack job or eked out.  That's the usual kind of self-validating mythology that happens with films online; a narrative is invented with little insight into the players' minds.  But we do know Ridley was in the driver's seat the whole time.  I do think the choices for the edit, and how they got to those choices, traded a lot of stuff for commercial expediency and the bottom line, and I wish it hadn't had to go there for several scenes.  I blame years in the critical wilderness with the AVP films, myself; they had a lot riding on rebooting the franchise properly, and obviously didn't want to take any more chances than they already had on stuff like opting for a Swedish star and a giant blue alien space jockey versus another alien queen and a tough girl with a big gun.

In the end, I really like Prometheus, but I will absolutely agree that some of this stuff should've stayed in and I hope that someday they decide to take more of my money for a whiz-bang "Extended Cut."  In the meantime, the sequel has been publicly greenlit - Google it - and I am told at least two of the leads signed for two films a long time ago.

I do think the film that was released in theaters is easily better than any version of Alien 3, as well as AR, though I do have a lot of love for Jeunet's crazy Parisian cousin of the franchise.  It works for me, always did.  But there you are.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 04:57:41 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:52:33 AM
There's about as much chance of this getting a sequel as there is Predators getting a sequel.

Considering the people in the know have said Fox is interested in making a sequel to Predators, that sounds about right.

Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 04:54:03 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:13 AM
They've got your money already and they'll get it again for the sequel.

"f**k the fans. We already have their money." - rumored to have been said by Tom Rothman, behind the scenes of Xmen Origins: Wolverine.

That sounds about right and all.  In principal if not literally.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 04:59:15 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 04:56:24 AM
I do think the film that was released in theaters is easily better than any version of Alien 3, as well as AR

:laugh:
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:01:47 AM
Your emoticon is a compelling argument I find difficult to deflect, but yes, I never liked 3 and I never will.  I love Fincher but the film is just a clusterf**k.  Some nice visuals, but eh.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:02:47 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 04:56:24 AM
In the meantime, the sequel has been publicly greenlit - Google it - and I am told at least two of the leads signed for two films a long time ago.
Can you cite where the studio says the sequel has gone into production?

A sequel is always said to be "greenlit"--I mean, didn't you know that even Green Lantern has a sequel greenlit? lololol
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 05:04:39 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:01:47 AM
Your emoticon is a compelling argument I find difficult to deflect, but yes, I never liked 3 and I never will.  I love Fincher but the film is just a clusterf**k.  Some nice visuals, but eh.

That's how I feel about Prometheus, a clusterf**k with nice visuals. :)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:05:11 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 04:56:24 AM
I don't think the theatrical version was a hack job or eked out.  That's the usual kind of self-validating mythology that happens with films online; a narrative is invented with little insight into the players' minds.  But we do know Ridley was in the driver's seat the whole time.  I do think the choices for the edit, and how they got to those choices, traded a lot of stuff for commercial expediency and the bottom line, and I wish it hadn't had to go there for several scenes.  I blame years in the critical wilderness with the AVP films, myself; they had a lot riding on rebooting the franchise properly, and obviously didn't want to take any more chances than they already had on stuff like opting for a Swedish star and a giant blue alien space jockey versus another alien queen and a tough girl with a big gun.


......hmm, isn't that like saying "but on the other hand, it was really a hack job"!!  ::)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 05:05:13 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg545.imageshack.us%2Fimg545%2F654%2Foprahpeesogifsoupcom.gif&hash=f33a332e05a84e7819957f19fe48bf1a03da1742)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
People, that fight scene with the engineer and the scientist could not enter at the movie. The explanation is obvious, and would be a total lack of direction.
In one scene ...We saw the alien-human overpowering and bursting the entire crew in less than 15 seconds.

And then there appears this scene with the scientist doing a hard game with him?

The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.

Only to remind.The engineer pulls the neck of David mercilessly and effortlessly. And when the doctor arrives, he scored some brownie points to her. It doesn't make sense to me.
Thereafter the public complains about lack of judgment of the director ...He did it right in my opinion.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:39 AM
Quote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
People, that fight scene with the engineer and the scientist could not enter at the movie. The explanation is obvious, and would be a total lack of direction.
In one scene ...We saw the alien-human overpowering and bursting the entire crew in less than 15 seconds.

And then there appears this scene with the scientist doing a hard game with him?

The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.

Only to remind.The engineer pulls the neck of David mercilessly and effortlessly. And when the doctor arrives, he scored some brownie points to her. It doesn't make sense to me.
Thereafter the public complains about lack of judgment of the director ...He did it right in my opinion.

You've just missed a very important part of both scenes then.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:11:17 AM
Quote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.
Uh, he beats the shit out of her. She gets him in the leg with a f**king axe and he still keeps coming, barely phased. Don't drink Ridley's crazy kool-aid, k?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:13:20 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:39 AM
Quote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
People, that fight scene with the engineer and the scientist could not enter at the movie. The explanation is obvious, and would be a total lack of direction.
In one scene ...We saw the alien-human overpowering and bursting the entire crew in less than 15 seconds.

And then there appears this scene with the scientist doing a hard game with him?

The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.

Only to remind.The engineer pulls the neck of David mercilessly and effortlessly. And when the doctor arrives, he scored some brownie points to her. It doesn't make sense to me.
Thereafter the public complains about lack of judgment of the director ...He did it right in my opinion.

You've just missed a very important part of both scenes then.

I think some people just watch these cut scenes and forget about it, y'know!  ;D
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:35 AM
It's not the same thing, no.  Most films, particularly big ones, are compromises.  There's a vast gulf of difference between the compromise you make to make the picture happen, and shatting out a hack job.  I personally found, say, 99% of the Marvel Comics films prior to Iron Man to be a perfect example of the latter.  A series of studios eager to hang onto the rights to properties, vomiting out something to make a date.  You can call Prometheus a million things according to yours or my tastes, but I don't think any of us would say Ridley Scott didn't make exactly the follow-up with exactly the bizarre subject matter he chose to.  If it was simply a matter of Fox doing good housekeeping to squeeze some more cash out of the franchise, they would never have dared make something so esoteric.  We would've had AVP4, or some remake, or at best another middle of the road to middling sequel, perhaps from a journeyman like Jonathan Liebesman or the Brothers Strause.

Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:02:47 AM
Can you cite where the studio says the sequel has gone into production?

You and I both know the sequel has not gone into production yet.  We also know, however, that Fox has confirmed that they have greenlit a sequel and are seeking new writers and that it's on track for '14 or '15.  If you're willing to bet it will never happen based on mixed fanbase reaction and the controversy at AVPGalaxy, I will be happy to take that wager in cash, rubles, or perhaps adorable kittens or Japanese pocky candy.

If, however, in future this is going to turn into something like the AV Club's running joke that the Arrested Development movie is a cruel hoax despite confirmations, script pages, and finally production stills, then I truly appreciate the callback.  I love AV Club.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:19:26 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:35 AM
You and I both know the sequel has not gone into production yet.
Then nothing has been greenlit.

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:35 AM
We also know, however, that Fox has confirmed that they have greenlit a sequel and are seeking new writers and that it's on track for '14 or '15.
Again, link with verifiable source?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:22:49 AM
Soitanly! (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/summer-movie-franchise-avengers-snow-white-magic-mike-356583)

QuoteThe studio's big summer bet was Ridley Scott's Prometheus, June's sort-of Alien prequel. The $130 million-budgeted film has grossed a solid but not spectacular $303 million globally, putting it right on the franchise bubble. (It should top out north of $360 million.) Fox confirms to THR that Scott and the studio actively are pushing ahead with a follow-up (stars Michael Fassbender and Noomi Rapace are signed) and are talking to new writers because Prometheus co-scribe Damon Lindelof might not be available. "Ridley is incredibly excited about the movie, but we have to get it right. We can't rush it," says Fox president of production Emma Watts, who also has overseen the successful reboots of the X-Men and Planet of the Apes franchises. A Prometheus sequel would be released in 2014 or 2015.

I'm pretty sure this piece from the Hollywood Reporter has been on the site a number of times before.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:26:10 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:39 AM
Quote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
People, that fight scene with the engineer and the scientist could not enter at the movie. The explanation is obvious, and would be a total lack of direction.
In one scene ...We saw the alien-human overpowering and bursting the entire crew in less than 15 seconds.

And then there appears this scene with the scientist doing a hard game with him?

The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.

Only to remind.The engineer pulls the neck of David mercilessly and effortlessly. And when the doctor arrives, he scored some brownie points to her. It doesn't make sense to me.
Thereafter the public complains about lack of judgment of the director ...He did it right in my opinion.

You've just missed a very important part of both scenes then.

Not it all.
Only I will not be defending these deleted scenes as if they were saving the gaps in the film.
I Like the movie with their holes xD
It's what I chose to believe!! ^^
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:26:59 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:22:49 AM
I'm pretty sure this piece from the Hollywood Reporter has been on the site a number of times before.

So basically--"we have no real plans as of yet, but we're considering it." The same thing every studio rep says for every wannabe franchise starter ever.

And by 2014 or 2015? Have you seen all the other projects Ridley has on his slate that have already been in development for years? You really think he's gonna push Prometheus to the front of the line?

It ain't gonna happen.

wish's cannot always come true
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:27:35 AM
So pocky or rubles then?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:28:04 AM
It would seem Prometheus 2 has been greenlit, Ive seen this quote banded around several websites now...

"Ridley is incredibly excited about the movie, but we have to get it right. We can't rush it," says Fox president of production Emma Watts

Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:30:17 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:28:04 AM
It would seem Prometheus 2 has been greenlit, Ive seen this quote banded around several websites now...

"Ridley is incredibly excited about the movie, but we have to get it right. We can't rush it," says Fox president of production Emma Watts
They're not gonna get it right. Development hell, ahoy.

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:27:35 AM
So pocky or rubles then?
What do you have against yan-yan, you bastard?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:13 AM
Also, Prometheus was the hopeful franchise re-starter.  If it had bombed, they would not be pursuing the follow-up.  It did what it was asked to do commercially, which is why Watts has confirmed they're in active development.  Same thing happened with Rise of the Planet of the Apes, although that was a much more impressive blow-out with a lower budget and lower-profile cast - it was a sleeper hit, not expected to be a big summer movie.  The result, however, was the same; it revived that dying franchise.  Which is why they are mentioned side by side in the same article.

I know how you can still win this debate, Cvalda - ask me for its naturalized birth certificate and three forms of government ID.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:20 AM
eh. Robert Rodriguez has a funny way of going about producing films due to the insane number of projects he has in his hands.. the Sin City sequel is being filmed this year... and the original came out in 2005... we'll inevitably see another Predator film.... it'll just take a few more years. :P
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 05:32:27 AM
Quote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:26:10 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:39 AM
Quote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
People, that fight scene with the engineer and the scientist could not enter at the movie. The explanation is obvious, and would be a total lack of direction.
In one scene ...We saw the alien-human overpowering and bursting the entire crew in less than 15 seconds.

And then there appears this scene with the scientist doing a hard game with him?

The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.

Only to remind.The engineer pulls the neck of David mercilessly and effortlessly. And when the doctor arrives, he scored some brownie points to her. It doesn't make sense to me.
Thereafter the public complains about lack of judgment of the director ...He did it right in my opinion.

You've just missed a very important part of both scenes then.

Not it all.
Only I will not be defending these deleted scenes as if they were saving the gaps in the film.
I Like the movie with their holes xD
It's what I chose to believe!! ^^

Watch the deleted scenes again.

The Engineer only attacks after seeing how Shaw is treated.  He had the opportunity to kill Shaw right then and there but doesn't.  His behaviour when he steps into the lifeboat doesn't exactly seem like the behaviour of somebody on the hunt and ready to kill.  There's an ambiguity you missed.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:32:40 AM
I'm afraid I don't know what yan-yan is.  Oh, wait!  Yes, I do!  Delicious!  Yan-yan it is.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:35:15 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:13 AM
Also, Prometheus was the hopeful franchise re-starter.  If it had bombed, they would not be pursuing the follow-up.  It did what it was asked to do commercially, which is why Watts has confirmed they're in active development.  Same thing happened with Rise of the Planet of the Apes, although that was a much more impressive blow-out with a lower budget and lower-profile cast - it was a sleeper hit, not expected to be a big summer movie.  The result, however, was the same; it revived that dying franchise.  Which is why they are mentioned side by side in the same article.

I know how you can still win this debate, Cvalda - ask me for its naturalized birth certificate and three forms of government ID.

Just checking before I dive in here....but are you suggesting Prometheus is a potential reboot????
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:36:54 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:20 AM
eh. Robert Rodriguez has a funny way of going about producing films due to the insane number of projects he has in his hands.. the Sin City sequel is being filmed this year... and the original came out in 2005... we'll inevitably see another Predator film.... it'll just take a few more years. :P
You keep tellin' yourself that. ;) For something that only had a $40 million budget and made roughly $137 worldwide, tripling it's budget (which Prometheus failed to do), no one at Fox seems to care much.

But apparently a mega-expensive film with a $200 million plus budget w/advertising that doesn't even have that level of profit is apparently seriously being fast-tracked for another $200 million plus budget sequel that would maybe lose money.

Keep dreaming, boys.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: whiterabbit on Sep 19, 2012, 05:37:15 AM
The studio probably cut out some parts to help spur dvd sales from people north of 55...  :laugh:

I don't see how the engineer was overpowered. He did seem to be having a moments thought watching the transmission and even took notice of the chandelier. Also remember that this Engineer is possibly millions of years above us. Weyland may have thought himself to be a god but the engineer may have thought of us no different than how we think of apes. It's clear he could have killed Shaw instantly but it looked more like he was trying to capture her. He takes several ax chops to the knees and gut. Also remember that is a future space ax, it must have been sharp as hell. :)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ShadowPred on Sep 19, 2012, 05:38:44 AM
I would also like to say, for the peeps who keep giving out them who would win "Pred or Engineer?!" the answer is now obvious to all.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:39:16 AM
I'm not suggesting that; that's what it was.  That was the tack they took with it from the day it was first announced, when they first tried to talk to Scott and Cameron years ago, then went to Carl Rinsch, and so on.  That was their moonshot to try and bring the franchise out of the AVP doldrums.  It ballooned into quite a different beast over time, and obviously YMMV on the film's quality, but they did clear the finish line for what they were aiming to do and are, according to Fox, proceeding apace.

It helps, I think, that Prometheus revealed itself to be this sweeping cosmic macro-saga to which the Alien franchise is actually kind of a side story.  That both delineates the two stories and also allows anyone to take the future films anywhere, without having to necessarily get bogged down in AVP or whatever again.  I like the shift in focus because it is something new.  I think the franchise died for awhile because a lot of people had no idea how to make another movie either without Ripley or without the same premise of 'alien eats people in space.'  They were trading mostly on the tropes of the first two films.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:41:00 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:36:54 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:20 AM
eh. Robert Rodriguez has a funny way of going about producing films due to the insane number of projects he has in his hands.. the Sin City sequel is being filmed this year... and the original came out in 2005... we'll inevitably see another Predator film.... it'll just take a few more years. :P
You keep tellin' yourself that. ;)

I'm gonna save this comment.. and then i'll bring it out when the inevitable sequel happens.

:laugh:

It might take 10 years, but it will happen damnit! ;)

lulz
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Alienseseses on Sep 19, 2012, 05:41:46 AM
I do still really like the theatrical cut. Always have.

The thing about the deleted scenes is that while they should have been left in, they were technically cuttable. The Janek-Vickers scene, for instance, is a nice character moment but ultimately isn't essential to the plot. Still, they add so much. The Engineer comes across less like an insane berserker and more like an intelligent being with curiosity. The characters have more depth in general, and the pacing is more thought-out.

I hope there is an EC one day, and I wouldn't put it past Ridley.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:42:09 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:13 AM
Also, Prometheus was the hopeful franchise re-starter.  If it had bombed, they would not be pursuing the follow-up.  It did what it was asked to do commercially, which is why Watts has confirmed they're in active development.  Same thing happened with Rise of the Planet of the Apes, although that was a much more impressive blow-out with a lower budget and lower-profile cast - it was a sleeper hit, not expected to be a big summer movie.  The result, however, was the same; it revived that dying franchise.  Which is why they are mentioned side by side in the same article.

I know how you can still win this debate, Cvalda - ask me for its naturalized birth certificate and three forms of government ID.

They'll have to change the strategy for the second part if they want to release the film , and have the same success that it had Prometheus.
Especially in terms of global reach.Since this is the slice that is saving the grossing film.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:43:36 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:41:00 AM
I'm gonna save this comment.. and then i'll bring it out when the inevitable sequel happens.

:laugh:

It might take 10 years, but it will happen damnit! ;)

lulz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k#)

;D
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:45:30 AM
Oh, I'm sure they'll release one eventually.  Geeks like us will always buy that shit, the studios know that, Ridley loves to do it, and Fox wants the money.  If my friend can make me watch a Director's Cut of Legend, I think I'll be seeing Prometheus in another form sometime.

The final fight is needed, and the Janek/Vickers scene is, to me, an essential one simply for the character development; also, while I personally never had a problem with the Janek/Shaw scene near the end because I thought his and his crew's deductions throughout the expeditions into the Engineer base were clearly shown, it does add some background to that.  I'd also leave the Engineer's vocalizations out, but put Weyland's speech in.  Other stuff, like the skin or the Vickers/Weyland comm exchange, there's no need.  But the sun speech/assembly, or the Shaw/Holloway fight?  I love those.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:45:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEY9kA3OYNE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEY9kA3OYNE#)

:'(

lol

:D
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:46:55 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:36:54 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:20 AM
eh. Robert Rodriguez has a funny way of going about producing films due to the insane number of projects he has in his hands.. the Sin City sequel is being filmed this year... and the original came out in 2005... we'll inevitably see another Predator film.... it'll just take a few more years. :P
You keep tellin' yourself that. ;) For something that only had a $40 million budget and made roughly $137 worldwide, tripling it's budget (which Prometheus failed to do), no one at Fox seems to care much.

But apparently a mega-expensive film with a $200 million plus budget w/advertising that doesn't even have that level of profit is apparently seriously being fast-tracked for another $200 million plus budget sequel that would maybe lose money.

Keep dreaming, boys.

I see your argument Cvalda but have to disagree, I think FOX will fast-track Prometheus not just because it made it's money back, but because they know they can get Scott to do it.  If he'd said no then it I doubt it would be happening, but the fact the first film left so many questions the audience expects Sir Riddles to answer, because that is his claim, that in FOX's view probably makes it a risk worth taking anyway.  ....I mean look at how the first film turned out, loads of people hated it, yet it still made a profit and (crucially) it's obvious people want to see more, something the studio is only too well aware of.!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ShadowPred on Sep 19, 2012, 05:47:52 AM
Damn it Ridley, just get on with the damn sequel already!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:50:49 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:46:55 AM
I see your argument Cvalda but have to disagree, I think FOX will fast-track Prometheus not just because it made it's money back, but because they know they can get Scott to do it.
Maybe you're right, this franchise is clearly one of his top priorities--I mean, it only took him 33 years to return to it! ;D
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:51:49 AM
..and he's got a Blade Runner sequel in the works, too.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ShadowPred on Sep 19, 2012, 05:52:08 AM
f**k it, Get James Cameron to get on this shit in 10 years.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 05:52:25 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:51:49 AM
..and he's got a Blade Runner sequel in the works, too.

...and let's hope that doesn't turn out to be a disaster.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:52:34 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:32:27 AM
Quote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:26:10 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:39 AM
Quote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
People, that fight scene with the engineer and the scientist could not enter at the movie. The explanation is obvious, and would be a total lack of direction.
In one scene ...We saw the alien-human overpowering and bursting the entire crew in less than 15 seconds.

And then there appears this scene with the scientist doing a hard game with him?

The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.

Only to remind.The engineer pulls the neck of David mercilessly and effortlessly. And when the doctor arrives, he scored some brownie points to her. It doesn't make sense to me.
Thereafter the public complains about lack of judgment of the director ...He did it right in my opinion.

You've just missed a very important part of both scenes then.

Not it all.
Only I will not be defending these deleted scenes as if they were saving the gaps in the film.
I Like the movie with their holes xD
It's what I chose to believe!! ^^

Watch the deleted scenes again.

The Engineer only attacks after seeing how Shaw is treated.  He had the opportunity to kill Shaw right then and there but doesn't.  His behaviour when he steps into the lifeboat doesn't exactly seem like the behaviour of somebody on the hunt and ready to kill.  There's an ambiguity you missed.


OK I accept your point. I think it is a good explanation. And I believe that it was possible that in the beginning he was not there to kill her .
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:55:07 AM
Quote from: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 05:52:25 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:51:49 AM
..and he's got a Blade Runner sequel in the works, too.

...and let's hope that doesn't turn out to be a disaster.
....

...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k#)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:58:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfXwmDGJAB8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfXwmDGJAB8#) girl, keep ya head up.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 06:06:03 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:39:16 AM
I'm not suggesting that; that's what it was.  That was the tack they took with it from the day it was first announced, when they first tried to talk to Scott and Cameron years ago, then went to Carl Rinsch, and so on.  That was their moonshot to try and bring the franchise out of the AVP doldrums.  It ballooned into quite a different beast over time, and obviously YMMV on the film's quality, but they did clear the finish line for what they were aiming to do and are, according to Fox, proceeding apace.

It helps, I think, that Prometheus revealed itself to be this sweeping cosmic macro-saga to which the Alien franchise is actually kind of a side story.  That both delineates the two stories and also allows anyone to take the future films anywhere, without having to necessarily get bogged down in AVP or whatever again.  I like the shift in focus because it is something new.  I think the franchise died for awhile because a lot of people had no idea how to make another movie either without Ripley or without the same premise of 'alien eats people in space.'  They were trading mostly on the tropes of the first two films.

You'll have to cite me on that one, I don't recall ANYONE ever saying Prometheus was a reboot, the Alien franchise was flagging yes, but a reboot would mean they intended to retell the whole thing.  As far as I'm aware, Scott first intended this film to be spin-off from Alien, taking the franchise in another direction before it became a stand-a-lone, while Lindelof has only ever been quoted as saying :

"Prometheus had 2 babies, one of which turned into Alien and its sequels and the other will go off in the direction of the Prometheus sequels."

Personally I don't think Scott has decided which way to go, probably why the "2 babies" thing was brought about, but non of this infers a reboot which is a totally different thing.  The Alien series doesn't need to be retold, nothing was ever going to change reguarding the original, all it needed was to be revitalized ....which is what I assume you "really" meant!!  (hopefully),   
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 06:08:40 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:55:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k#)

Sometimes wishes come true.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 06:10:38 AM
Yes, that's what I really meant.  Not a literal story reboot as in rebooting from 1979, but rebooting the direction of the franchise overall, commercially, for successful films in the future.  That was Fox's intent when they went back to Ridley Scott.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 06:17:04 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 06:10:38 AM
Yes, that's what I really meant.  Not a literal story reboot as in rebooting from 1979, but rebooting the direction of the franchise overall, commercially, for successful films in the future.  That was Fox's intent when they went back to Ridley Scott.

I think Scott will abandon the "2 babies" thing anyway....I mean look at it this way, if he goes with a direct sequel to Prometheus that means P3 has to connect with that AND what happened to the original Engineer.  Seems to me it would be far easier to carry on telling Shaw's story...UNLESS, as I know so many fear on these boards, by some drastic twist of fate it turns out Shaw is that Engineer ...sure hope not!!!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 06:22:35 AM
Who's the "original engineer"?  The dude that dissolves at the start?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 06:30:39 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 06:22:35 AM
Who's the "original engineer"?  The dude that dissolves at the start?

No, I mean the engineer from the first Alien.  You must have heard this theory (or call it a rumor if you will) that Shaw turns out to be the original Engineer of the first film.  Daft as it sounds, the idea was doing the rounds for a while because of the way Prometheus ends  :)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 06:33:40 AM
Oh, the Space Jockey.

Haven't heard the rumour until now.  And since I'm sure I read something from Riddles saying that sequels would move further away from Alien, I don't see that they have to or need to connect to Alien.  One of the questions Riddles was interested in was 'where did the Jockey come from?'.  If Shaw finds out in a Prometheus sequel - question answered.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 06:37:58 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 06:33:40 AM
Oh, the Space Jockey.

Haven't heard the rumour until now.  And since I'm sure I read something from Riddles saying that sequels would move further away from Alien, I don't see that they have to or need to connect to Alien.  One of the questions Riddles was interested in was 'where did the Jockey come from?'.  If Shaw finds out in a Prometheus sequel - question answered.

yeah, that's what I'm saying, the Alien question only needs answering in so far as where did it come from, we assume the answer came at the end of Prometheus even though there may be more to it than that, which is why I dont think there will be a Prometheus connecting to Alien, 2 films before we get there (as stated by Scott), but more than likely happening somewhere else.

oh yh, sorry... space Jockey = Engineer ....I think they will remain one and the same but we'll see
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 19, 2012, 07:22:14 AM
Don't like the Engineer talking, I think it's better if he's silent.

I'm still of the opinion that the Engineer and the Space Jockey in 'Alien' are actually completely different races - while the Engineers made us, perhaps the Space Jockeys made them, but not in their own image, and the Engineers are merely mimicking their creators' technology while creating in their own image.

This is making me want to wait for an "extended cut" blu-ray.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: whiterabbit on Sep 19, 2012, 08:33:59 AM
I love the engineers voice. It definitely sounds godlike. It also sounds somewhat similar to the derelict transmission I think. Out of all of them I think the Janek/Vickers conversation tied things up better, if not a little too hold your hand. That the Engineers created something that they should not have and it got out.

Also the timing of this is pretty hilarious. Romney recently got flack for talking about how he saw a huge fence around a Chinese factory that Bane Capital was thinking of purchasing. He then laughed it off when he explained the man on the scene said that the fence was to keep people out. Because so many people wanted to work. Yea I know this is not the forum but I think it's damn scary how both fences were to probably keep people form leaving.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 19, 2012, 12:48:50 PM
So, anyone have a link to a site where I can just watch the deleted scenes without downloading them? Or do they have to be downloaded?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: OmegaZilla on Sep 19, 2012, 12:55:24 PM
Check your inbox.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Jango1201 on Sep 19, 2012, 02:03:53 PM
Can I check mine as well?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 19, 2012, 02:09:03 PM
Take a look :)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: KiramidHead on Sep 19, 2012, 03:34:12 PM
I can't be the only one who thought of something much dirtier when they saw that a scene was titled "Janek Fills Vickers in." ;)

Seriously, though, that scene was pretty good. You could cut his scene with Shaw, ;eave this in, and the point still gets across.

The fight with the Engineer was pretty good as well. It's not like Shaw seriously kicked his a** or anything. She just got in a few good blows.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 19, 2012, 03:34:12 PM
Seriously, though, that scene was pretty good. You could cut his scene with Shaw, ;eave this in, and the point still gets across.
That's because his scene with Shaw was likely a crappy reshoot designed to replace this superior scene when they cut it.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: nieves50 on Sep 19, 2012, 04:37:16 PM
Seems this got lost couple of pages back.....

Are these scenes IN the itunes movie or just "extras"?......If they are "extras", I'll refrain from watching them until they are added to the movie either on BRay or extended cut...

Looks like the general consensus is that these scenes should have been in the movie...I was dissapointed watching it the first time, felt the film got chopped to pieces and rushed to the masses...Not trying to start the never ending debate. Just my PERSONAL opinion and nothing else.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:39:34 PM
Quote from: nieves50 on Sep 19, 2012, 04:37:16 PM
Are these scenes IN the itunes movie or just "extras"?......If they are "extras", I'll refrain from watching them until they are added to the movie either on BRay or extended cut...
They are not in the movie. They are extras.

They will not be added to the movie on the Blu-ray, either.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: nieves50 on Sep 19, 2012, 04:43:27 PM
Well that is a total dissapointment.... >:(

Thanks for the quick response!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Promethée on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
So I just watched the original and compared with the extended versions (the weyland dialogue & the final fight)

To me the Theatrical cut is ruined, (I wasn't happy with it anyway) it feels like a joke, seriously the last scene is like an insult,

-David: "he's coming"
-E.Shaw: "Who's coming" (stupid question in both versions)
-computer: bip bip
-Engineer: Aaaaarrrrrr !!!!
-E.S: "Diiiieeee!!" pushes a buton hentai monster grabs engineer 

Total 25 seconds long
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:29 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???

http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6 (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6)

.....there ya go buddy!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:11 PM
Quote from: Promethée on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
So I just watched the original and compared with the extended versions (the weyland dialogue & the final fight)

To me the Theatrical cut is ruined, (I wasn't happy with it anyway) it feels like a joke, seriously the last scene is like an insult,

-David: "he's coming"
-E.Shaw: "Who's coming" (stupid question in both versions)
-computer: bip bip
-Engineer: Aaaaarrrrrr !!!!
-E.S: "Diiiieeee!!" pushes a buton hentai monster grabs engineer 

Total 25 seconds long

Yup.  And the Ridley apologists will continue to defend his theatrical cut even with all these deleted scenes that would have added something to the film. :laugh:
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Virgil on Sep 19, 2012, 05:22:56 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:11 PM
Quote from: Promethée on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
So I just watched the original and compared with the extended versions (the weyland dialogue & the final fight)

To me the Theatrical cut is ruined, (I wasn't happy with it anyway) it feels like a joke, seriously the last scene is like an insult,

-David: "he's coming"
-E.Shaw: "Who's coming" (stupid question in both versions)
-computer: bip bip
-Engineer: Aaaaarrrrrr !!!!
-E.S: "Diiiieeee!!" pushes a buton hentai monster grabs engineer 

Total 25 seconds long

Yup.  And the Ridley apologists will continue to defend his theatrical cut even with all these deleted scenes that would have added something to the film. :laugh:

Or they'll defend it simply because they enjoyed it more.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: Virgil on Sep 19, 2012, 05:22:56 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:11 PM
Quote from: Promethée on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
So I just watched the original and compared with the extended versions (the weyland dialogue & the final fight)

To me the Theatrical cut is ruined, (I wasn't happy with it anyway) it feels like a joke, seriously the last scene is like an insult,

-David: "he's coming"
-E.Shaw: "Who's coming" (stupid question in both versions)
-computer: bip bip
-Engineer: Aaaaarrrrrr !!!!
-E.S: "Diiiieeee!!" pushes a buton hentai monster grabs engineer 

Total 25 seconds long

Yup.  And the Ridley apologists will continue to defend his theatrical cut even with all these deleted scenes that would have added something to the film. :laugh:

Or they'll defend it simply because they enjoyed it more.


Or they'll defend it because it did exactly what it said on the tin.... and who's going to argue against that except the purists. :P
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: fiveways on Sep 19, 2012, 05:28:16 PM
Wow.  That last scene was great, and it is pretty obvious that was taken out to secure a PG-13.  A fire axe as a weapon is not something commonly scene in a PG-13 movie.

Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Bat Chain Puller on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:16 PM
So far I can see why most of the scenes were cut/trimmed. The saddest scene to have lost so far was probably Janek fills Vickers in. LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than the scene they replaced it with. I can see why they had to ditch it. For pacing reasons. But it's the equivalent of having to lose an arm in order to escape death through a narrow passage. You miss the arm. You really could have used that arm ... "if only."

I really liked the additional Engineer stuff. But Ridley already explained why that was cut. You don't have to agree with him. But given a glimpse into his thought process you can see why he trimmed out as much as he did.



Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Virgil on Sep 19, 2012, 05:35:14 PM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: Virgil on Sep 19, 2012, 05:22:56 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:11 PM
Quote from: Promethée on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
So I just watched the original and compared with the extended versions (the weyland dialogue & the final fight)

To me the Theatrical cut is ruined, (I wasn't happy with it anyway) it feels like a joke, seriously the last scene is like an insult,

-David: "he's coming"
-E.Shaw: "Who's coming" (stupid question in both versions)
-computer: bip bip
-Engineer: Aaaaarrrrrr !!!!
-E.S: "Diiiieeee!!" pushes a buton hentai monster grabs engineer 

Total 25 seconds long

Yup.  And the Ridley apologists will continue to defend his theatrical cut even with all these deleted scenes that would have added something to the film. :laugh:

Or they'll defend it simply because they enjoyed it more.


Or they'll defend it because it did exactly what it said on the tin.... and who's going to argue against that except the purists. :P

My point being that there'll be many people out there who prefer the pacing of the theatrical cut no different to those who still love Bladerunner's. Not myself personally, and I imagine I'd much prefer an extended cut of Prometheus, though I think it's a little ignorant to assume anybody who differs in opinion is some kind of 'apologist' or whatever the hell that's suppose to mean.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:36:33 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:16 PM
So far I can see why most of the scenes were cut/trimmed. The saddest scene to have lost so far was probably Janek fills Vickers in. LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than the scene they replaced it with. I can see why they had to ditch it. For pacing reasons. But it's the equivalent of having to lose an arm in order to escape death through a narrow passage. You miss the arm. You really could have used that arm ... "if only."

I really liked the additional Engineer stuff. But Ridley already explained why that was cut. You don't have to agree with him. But given a glimpse into his thought process you can see why he trimmed out as much as he did.

I dunno about that, the editing is so bad on this film the pacing is all over the place anyway, the sense of urgency ruined by the fact you can just tell some thing's are missing.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:37:06 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:16 PM
I really liked the additional Engineer stuff. But Ridley already explained why that was cut. You don't have to agree with him. But given a glimpse into his thought process you can see why he trimmed out as much as he did.
"Dramatically, I'm about putting bums on seats.  For me to separate my idea of commerce from art—I'd be a fool.  You can't do that.  I wouldn't be allowed to do the films I do.  So I'm very user friendly as far as the studios are concerned.  To a certain extent, I'm a businessman.  I'm aware that's what I have to do.  It's my job.  To say, "Screw the audience."  You can't do that.  "Am I communicating?" is the question.  Am I communicating?  Because if I'm not, I need to address it."

His thought process = $$$$$$$$$.

It's amusing that he says he doesn't want to screw the audience, and that's just what he did.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Michael Harper on Sep 19, 2012, 05:40:55 PM
I wonder when the PARADISE scene will hit the web.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 05:41:09 PM
Whatever the apologists want to tell themselves...

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9WbAL.gif&hash=22124d797a2f2a81771e4be683c75bce134c7971)
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Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Bat Chain Puller on Sep 19, 2012, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:37:06 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:16 PM
I really liked the additional Engineer stuff. But Ridley already explained why that was cut. You don't have to agree with him. But given a glimpse into his thought process you can see why he trimmed out as much as he did.
"Dramatically, I'm about putting bums on seats.  For me to separate my idea of commerce from art—I'd be a fool.  You can't do that.  I wouldn't be allowed to do the films I do.  So I'm very user friendly as far as the studios are concerned.  To a certain extent, I'm a businessman.  I'm aware that's what I have to do.  It's my job.  To say, "Screw the audience."  You can't do that.  "Am I communicating?" is the question.  Am I communicating?  Because if I'm not, I need to address it."

His thought process = $$$$$$$$$.

It's amusing that he says he doesn't want to screw the audience, and that's just what he did.

Wears his heart on his sleeve doesn't he?

In the last 10 years (or maybe more) his films has benefited from extended cuts. I'm sure with more time to ponder just how those pieces fit ... we'll get something we can all agree is the best product given the elements at hand.

Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:36:33 PM
I dunno about that, the editing is so bad on this film the pacing is all over the place anyway, the sense of urgency ruined by the fact you can just tell some thing's are missing.

To me it feels stretched out more than anything. I can FEEL that they removed the real last act and everything leading up to it and wrote in a couple more "Back to the Temple" scenes.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: T Dog on Sep 19, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
One thing is for sure, this film was NOT "epic" and did not have "big ideas".
It all took place in three areas for crying out loud. Temple, ship, outdoors.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Promethée on Sep 19, 2012, 06:54:55 PM
Some setting up on earth would have been nice for sure.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: T Dog on Sep 19, 2012, 07:13:29 PM
It would have been nice if the engineers had been actually present for more than a bullshit CSI scene at the start and an angry dude at the very end.

If they went to the weapons planet and the home world and not padded the film with unnecessary creature moments it might have actually epic.

Big ideas my balls. Standalone film my hairy crack.



Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: DaddyYautja on Sep 19, 2012, 08:05:10 PM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:29 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???

http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6 (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6)

.....there ya go buddy!

Milburn; the worst scientist in the universe.

Janek telling that story is silly as hell.

The Jock talking scene isnt that different than what we see in theaters. The flip out is pretty much random but we get a little more on Weyland which i think is good. Either scene is essentially fine.

And the last scene was goofy. Sure, she gives herself a drug boost but still..... And it looks like the burns in this version came from the big body huger.

Edit- Now that i think about it the Janek story might be stupid because it basically tells the audience what essentially might have happened in this planet with the character of Janek going as far as ACTUALLY saying that but it does give more info on why he randomly thought this place was a military place building WMDs later on. 

It both helps and hurts at the same time.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Xenomorphine on Sep 19, 2012, 08:19:12 PM
Yeah, the exposition's nice to have, but nothing here really changes what we saw. The original version certainly isn't "ruined" by comparison. It's much the same.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: szkoki on Sep 19, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 19, 2012, 08:05:10 PM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:29 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???

http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6 (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6)

.....there ya go buddy!

Milburn; the worst scientist in the universe.

Janek telling that story is silly as hell.

The Jock talking scene isnt that different than what we see in theaters. The flip out is pretty much random but we get a little more on Weyland which i think is good. Either scene is essentially fine.

And the last scene was goofy. Sure, she gives herself a drug boost but still..... And it looks like the burns in this version came from the big body huger.

the "fight" with the body hugger is cgi the scenes before are not, its an unfinished work simply....and its a good scene with Janek and Vickers, just shows that she is a human not a robot...but oh well ambigiuty FTW!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: DaddyYautja on Sep 19, 2012, 08:34:14 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Sep 19, 2012, 08:30:06 PM

the "fight" with the body hugger is cgi the scenes before are not, its an unfinished work simply....and its a good scene with Janek and Vickers, just shows that she is a human not a robot...but oh well ambigiuty FTW!

Didnt you guys hear the sound of something burning? the, "sssssssssst."
To me it looks like the hugger is disabling his prey.

BTW, how does it show that she is human? Cause she burned her hand or because she decided to drink?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 19, 2012, 08:38:14 PM
He was burned up from the crash (the juggernaut got hit by an extremely fast and large ship right into its center - considering how damaged the control room looked afterwards, he was bound to have some burns/scratches on him).

You don't see any burns from the deleted scene because its unfinished work. The only section the animators put burns on was the part in the film - when he gets ambushed and body hugged.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Alienseseses on Sep 19, 2012, 08:50:07 PM
Notice also how the sound design and color correction are largely absent from the deleted scene.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 19, 2012, 08:34:14 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Sep 19, 2012, 08:30:06 PM

the "fight" with the body hugger is cgi the scenes before are not, its an unfinished work simply....and its a good scene with Janek and Vickers, just shows that she is a human not a robot...but oh well ambigiuty FTW!

Didnt you guys hear the sound of something burning? the, "sssssssssst."
To me it looks like the hugger is disabling his prey.

BTW, how does it show that she is human? Cause she burned her hand or because she decided to drink?

Lol, I can't believe the Vickers debate is still going on when it has been confirmed she's not a robot. :laugh:
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Alienseseses on Sep 19, 2012, 09:16:58 PM
It shows she's not a robot because suddenly the movie is giving her human moments. This and her extended talk with Weyland.

Of course, while the movie didn't have that in the end, I still liked that version as well- it was fun debating in my head whether or not she was human. But what do I know, I'm a Ridley apologist.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 19, 2012, 09:20:31 PM
Lol, it was even obvious from the terrible theatrical cut that she was human.

Even before the film came out, Ridley expressed that he wasn't interested in rehashing the twist from Alien which is why he reveals David to be a robot from the start.  Lindelof also confirmed in an interview she's human.  She does things unlike David.  If she's so advanced and capable of expressing so much emotion, why bother with a David?  Why would she bother putting her helmet and suit back on when the Prometheus is about to collide with the Derelict?  I could go on... but I won't.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: BANE on Sep 19, 2012, 09:27:41 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 19, 2012, 08:05:10 PM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:29 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???

http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6 (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6)

.....there ya go buddy!

Milburn; the worst scientist in the universe.

Janek telling that story is silly as hell.

The Jock talking scene isnt that different than what we see in theaters. The flip out is pretty much random but we get a little more on Weyland which i think is good. Either scene is essentially fine.

And the last scene was goofy. Sure, she gives herself a drug boost but still..... And it looks like the burns in this version came from the big body huger.

Edit- Now that i think about it the Janek story might be stupid because it basically tells the audience what essentially might have happened in this planet with the character of Janek going as far as ACTUALLY saying that but it does give more info on why he randomly thought this place was a military place building WMDs later on. 

It both helps and hurts at the same time.
Ok, so you're just destined to hate it.

Thanks.

Goodbye.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 09:27:59 PM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:29 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???

http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6 (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6)

.....there ya go buddy!
Cheers Roary. :-)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: DaddyYautja on Sep 19, 2012, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: BANE on Sep 19, 2012, 09:27:41 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 19, 2012, 08:05:10 PM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:29 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???

http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6 (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6)

.....there ya go buddy!

Milburn; the worst scientist in the universe.

Janek telling that story is silly as hell.

The Jock talking scene isnt that different than what we see in theaters. The flip out is pretty much random but we get a little more on Weyland which i think is good. Either scene is essentially fine.

And the last scene was goofy. Sure, she gives herself a drug boost but still..... And it looks like the burns in this version came from the big body huger.

Edit- Now that i think about it the Janek story might be stupid because it basically tells the audience what essentially might have happened in this planet with the character of Janek going as far as ACTUALLY saying that but it does give more info on why he randomly thought this place was a military place building WMDs later on. 

It both helps and hurts at the same time.
Ok, so you're just destined to hate it.

Thanks.

Goodbye.

I dont get it.... am i only supposed to love this movie?
I thought two of those scenes were ok, the Jock talking was fine and the Janek story was a little too much hand holding but at least it fixed one strange thing that happened in the movie.

So i went 2 for 4 what about you? Did you like all those scenes?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
QuoteWow.  That last scene was great, and it is pretty obvious that was taken out to secure a PG-13.  A fire axe as a weapon is not something commonly scene in a PG-13 movie.


Prometheus is R.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: fiveways on Sep 19, 2012, 11:43:46 PM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
QuoteWow.  That last scene was great, and it is pretty obvious that was taken out to secure a PG-13.  A fire axe as a weapon is not something commonly scene in a PG-13 movie.


Prometheus is R.

Yes, and the theatre edit was a failed attempt to get a PG-13 rating.  if they took out the medipod scene it would have worked too.

Oh, and it was rated AA here, so PG-14.  Not "R".  So neither of us are technically right.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ShadowPred on Sep 19, 2012, 11:45:23 PM
It was R here.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:50:46 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Sep 19, 2012, 11:43:46 PM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
QuoteWow.  That last scene was great, and it is pretty obvious that was taken out to secure a PG-13.  A fire axe as a weapon is not something commonly scene in a PG-13 movie.


Prometheus is R.

Yes, and the theatre edit was a failed attempt to get a PG-13 rating.  if they took out the medipod scene it would have worked too.

Oh, and it was rated AA here, so PG-14.  Not "R".  So neither of us are technically right.

No, technically I'm right.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: fiveways on Sep 20, 2012, 12:19:01 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:50:46 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Sep 19, 2012, 11:43:46 PM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
QuoteWow.  That last scene was great, and it is pretty obvious that was taken out to secure a PG-13.  A fire axe as a weapon is not something commonly scene in a PG-13 movie.


Prometheus is R.

Yes, and the theatre edit was a failed attempt to get a PG-13 rating.  if they took out the medipod scene it would have worked too.

Oh, and it was rated AA here, so PG-14.  Not "R".  So neither of us are technically right.

No, technically I'm right.

wasn't R in canada.  From my geography you are not right either.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/parentalguide#certification (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/parentalguide#certification)

14a isn't rated "R".  It isnt PG-13 but it is much closer to it then a canadian "R".

Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: bobcunk on Sep 20, 2012, 12:21:00 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:50:46 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Sep 19, 2012, 11:43:46 PM
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
QuoteWow.  That last scene was great, and it is pretty obvious that was taken out to secure a PG-13.  A fire axe as a weapon is not something commonly scene in a PG-13 movie.


Prometheus is R.

Yes, and the theatre edit was a failed attempt to get a PG-13 rating.  if they took out the medipod scene it would have worked too.

Oh, and it was rated AA here, so PG-14.  Not "R".  So neither of us are technically right.

No, technically I'm right.

there are very few movies rated r in Canada usually its aa. and i dont the the axe would have materd, unless there is blood and stuff they dont realy care. the lord of the rings was quite graphic and it wasn't r.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 20, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
I don't know if its unfinished sound design, but I also personally like it better when Weyland dies with a flat line and the radio breaks up, instead of the theatrical beeping, beeping, beeping, flat line (which feels more cliche and too familiar). Odd thought but there it is.

Really hoping for these scenes to be restored and reinserted.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 20, 2012, 12:34:10 AM
Quotewasn't R in canada.  From my geography you are not right either.

You started talking about the US rating system with PG-13.  Don't suddenly start talking about the Canadian one because you think the flick should've got a different ratng or was trying for a different rating.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 20, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
'Paradise' Deleted Scene:



(Copy and paste link into address bar if the video won't show up)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 20, 2012, 02:12:18 AM
Come on Ridley...I mean, I get cutting out the axe fight, and maybe the Janeck/Vickers scene, but this one is pretty much essential to the plot...
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 20, 2012, 02:12:46 AM
2008 called...
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 20, 2012, 02:13:41 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 20, 2012, 02:12:46 AM
2008 called...

Spoiler
Don't be mad.
[close]
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 20, 2012, 02:32:30 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 20, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
'Paradise' Deleted Scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

(Copy and paste link into address bar if the video won't show up)

Awesome scene.... why was this cut? f**ks sake...
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: boostedlsj on Sep 20, 2012, 02:49:24 AM
Damn!! Hey guys really wanted to show these deleted scenes to my Fiance and the linky no worky anymore. Anywhere else to find em? Without purchasing of course  :-\
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 20, 2012, 02:51:04 AM
Sorry, the link I had seems to have gone down :-\
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: RoaryUK on Sep 20, 2012, 03:00:26 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 20, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
'Paradise' Deleted Scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

(Copy and paste link into address bar if the video won't show up)

All I'm seeing here is Rick Gastly!!!   >:(
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 20, 2012, 03:02:02 AM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 20, 2012, 03:00:26 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 20, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
'Paradise' Deleted Scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

(Copy and paste link into address bar if the video won't show up)

All I'm seeing here is Rick Gastly!!!   >:(
Try harder.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 20, 2012, 03:02:44 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.chzbgr.com%2Fcompletestore%2F2011%2F5%2F8%2F578c116f-6720-44f3-abfb-0d1aa34c721d.jpg&hash=4e71e9ea17d7e42163d3aaa91e0bd55adae6ffa0)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 20, 2012, 03:11:32 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 20, 2012, 03:02:44 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.chzbgr.com%2Fcompletestore%2F2011%2F5%2F8%2F578c116f-6720-44f3-abfb-0d1aa34c721d.jpg&hash=4e71e9ea17d7e42163d3aaa91e0bd55adae6ffa0)

:laugh:

OMG.  I laughed a little too loud at that.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Prime113 on Sep 20, 2012, 04:24:28 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 20, 2012, 03:02:44 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.chzbgr.com%2Fcompletestore%2F2011%2F5%2F8%2F578c116f-6720-44f3-abfb-0d1aa34c721d.jpg&hash=4e71e9ea17d7e42163d3aaa91e0bd55adae6ffa0)

Hell. Yes.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 20, 2012, 06:37:54 AM
Crucial material.  HACK JOB!!!11
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: whiterabbit on Sep 20, 2012, 08:28:04 AM
Why wasn't that the transmission? Rick Ashley could have been the start of the dancing engineers!

Oh man now someone needs to make that. Dancing Engineers. The internet can never be complete without that.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.tinypic.com%2F2ah8i1x.jpg&hash=8c97890b0c5a6a6384ad43f7046171b9add04783)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ChrisPachi on Sep 20, 2012, 09:04:58 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 20, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
'Paradise' Deleted Scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

(Copy and paste link into address bar if the video won't show up)

Hmm, I am not seeing how this fits, but as I have been told before I am probably just missing all of the thematic subtleties of the film. ;)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Xenoscream on Sep 20, 2012, 11:14:26 AM
Howdy chaps,

Can someone PM me a link to the deleted scenes, I'm still in the midst of my rebound the world trip (currently in Japan) and don't want to splash out on the digital copy and won't get to see the blu ray for so long.

For those of that remember me I'm the guy who went to France to watch it a day early... It would be nice to have that money back!

;-)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Space Sweeper on Sep 20, 2012, 11:23:27 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 20, 2012, 08:28:04 AM
Why wasn't that the transmission? Rick Ashley could have been the start of the dancing engineers!

Oh man now someone needs to make that. Dancing Engineers. The internet can never be complete without that.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2ah8i1x.jpg
Oh god, my sides!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ChrisPachi on Sep 20, 2012, 11:45:10 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 20, 2012, 08:28:04 AMhttp://i45.tinypic.com/2ah8i1x.jpg
:laugh:
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 20, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
Deleted scenes here http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/59928/check-out-nearly-15-minutes-deleted-prometheus-footage-while-you-still-can (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/59928/check-out-nearly-15-minutes-deleted-prometheus-footage-while-you-still-can)

I think the two longest scenes should have been icluded. I love how quiet they are.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Infected on Sep 20, 2012, 02:27:51 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 20, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
Deleted scenes here http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/59928/check-out-nearly-15-minutes-deleted-prometheus-footage-while-you-still-can (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/59928/check-out-nearly-15-minutes-deleted-prometheus-footage-while-you-still-can)

I think the two longest scenes should have been icluded. I love how quiet they are.
Thanks,
still this isnt all i think.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ChrisPachi on Sep 20, 2012, 02:40:14 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 20, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
Deleted scenes here http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/59928/check-out-nearly-15-minutes-deleted-prometheus-footage-while-you-still-can (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/59928/check-out-nearly-15-minutes-deleted-prometheus-footage-while-you-still-can)

I think the two longest scenes should have been icluded. I love how quiet they are.
Thanks for that.

The engineer strolling into the room and casually looking around while Shaw cringes behind the bar is a much more effective setup for what we all hoped was going to be a decent final act.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 20, 2012, 05:02:00 PM
Ridley Scott chose the action way out as opposed to a steady and quiet tone, which would have served the audience better.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 06:02:52 PM
I think that had that scene alone been part of the finished film, it would have had a better reaction overall. The main complain I see is "The climax is rushed." In theaters I was fine with this, but our opinions of movies are always heavily influenced by the ending, and this ending is simply stronger. The Engineer sees the signal-video they've been sending. Payoff. He seems fascinated by the ship's design, eg. the chandelier. More payoff- the creator seeing the results of his creation. And finally you have Shaw staring down God, the thing she cares about most.

The fight itself, eh, you can keep that short. It's the buildup I wish had stayed in.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Darth Vile on Sep 20, 2012, 06:53:11 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 06:02:52 PM
I think that had that scene alone been part of the finished film, it would have had a better reaction overall. The main complain I see is "The climax is rushed." In theaters I was fine with this, but our opinions of movies are always heavily influenced by the ending, and this ending is simply stronger. The Engineer sees the signal-video they've been sending. Payoff. He seems fascinated by the ship's design, eg. the chandelier. More payoff- the creator seeing the results of his creation. And finally you have Shaw staring down God, the thing she cares about most.

The fight itself, eh, you can keep that short. It's the buildup I wish had stayed in.
I like the build up too... The problem I think is that what we get in the deleted scene doesn't really make the engineers seem more scary or more enigmatic (IMHO). The fact that the chase/fight is longer makes the engineer seem more sensless/bruitish IMHO, because logic dictates that if this is a highly evolved creature he'd have thought more about what he was doing - rather than just mindlessly chasing Shaw all over the ship. If it was a xeno then fine... but this is a 'God'.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
That's why the build-up works so well- he walks in calmly, surveys his surroundings, actually seems to be interested in what he sees, and when he sees her, you can tell he's not lashing out because Grrrr Monster Argh- there's clearly something going on in his mind.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Darth Vile on Sep 20, 2012, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
That's why the build-up works so well- he walks in calmly, surveys his surroundings, actually seems to be interested in what he sees, and when he sees her, you can tell he's not lashing out because Grrrr Monster Argh- there's clearly something going on in his mind.

I can't see that... I just see more of the giant carrot man from The Thing From Another World and or Boris Karloff's monster.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: KiramidHead on Sep 20, 2012, 10:08:05 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 20, 2012, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
That's why the build-up works so well- he walks in calmly, surveys his surroundings, actually seems to be interested in what he sees, and when he sees her, you can tell he's not lashing out because Grrrr Monster Argh- there's clearly something going on in his mind.

I can't see that... I just see more of the giant carrot man from The Thing From Another World and or Boris Karloff's monster.

And in the first two Karloff Frankenstein films, there was something going on his mind.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 21, 2012, 12:02:57 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 20, 2012, 05:02:00 PM
Ridley Scott chose the action way out as opposed to a steady and quiet tone, which would have served the audience better.

Bethesda, I actually...

Spoiler
...agree with you.
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Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 21, 2012, 12:09:56 AM
First BANE agrees with me.

Now we agree with Bethesda.

The end is nigh.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Vickers on Sep 21, 2012, 12:18:44 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 21, 2012, 12:09:56 AM
First BANE agrees with me.

Now we agree with Bethesda.

The end is nigh.

Jupiter is already hightailing it out of the solar system as we speak.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 21, 2012, 02:14:39 AM
Hang on.  So LV-233 and LV-426 are both in the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system?

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Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 21, 2012, 02:18:20 AM
They orbit the same ringed planet, I believe.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: bleau on Sep 21, 2012, 02:30:05 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
That's why the build-up works so well- he walks in calmly, surveys his surroundings, actually seems to be interested in what he sees, and when he sees her, you can tell he's not lashing out because Grrrr Monster Argh- there's clearly something going on in his mind.

I agree here as well. We see a lot more of the engineer and to me it is a good thing imo. I think it is good to warm up to the engineer now, because I'm sure we'll see a lot more of them in the sequel interacting and doing more possibly.

Thought Engineer's were portrayed well in all cut footage.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Xenoligiost on Sep 21, 2012, 02:39:04 AM
Does buying it on VUDU allow me to actually download it or do i have to stream it?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 21, 2012, 03:12:45 AM
Quote from: RaisingCane on Sep 21, 2012, 02:14:39 AM
Hang on.  So LV-233 and LV-426 are both in the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/main_intro_bg-17.jpg)

I guess Z2R moved about 4 light years further away, and the gas giant gained another moon (and on that moon was the Derelict) in the intervening 30 years.

And WY and the ECA chose a much more difficult planet to terraform...
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: DaddyYautja on Sep 21, 2012, 03:54:57 AM
Quote from: RaisingCane on Sep 21, 2012, 02:14:39 AM
Hang on.  So LV-233 and LV-426 are both in the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/main_intro_bg-17.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg9.imageshack.us%2Fimg9%2F944%2Fxlarges.jpg&hash=e8a66196873db953cebabcc5c3bfcfd0bf735e56)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: fiveways on Sep 21, 2012, 03:56:17 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
That's why the build-up works so well- he walks in calmly, surveys his surroundings, actually seems to be interested in what he sees, and when he sees her, you can tell he's not lashing out because Grrrr Monster Argh- there's clearly something going on in his mind.

Since he was ordered to wipe out humanity 2000 years ago maybe that lash out was in fear.  Fear that the children might be almost on par technologically with his own race.  He sees what we are capable of, so maybe he is starting to imagine the weapons we have developed over the last 2000 years.

Maybe that evolution was what he was sent to earth to purposely disrupt.  Seeing his failure the backlash is in pure rage.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 21, 2012, 04:57:54 AM
I am no scientist - clearly - but I always assumed 223 was in the same system as 426.

Why they didn't terraform 223 is a good question, but maybe the intervening events of Prometheus (the death of all hands, including Weyland and daughter, and whatever scant information returns to Earth) and/or subsequent sequels could explain it.  Or maybe they did and we just don't know it.

As for the Engineer, I inferred from the film that his mission had been to head to Earth and cleanse the planet and that, yes, he was outraged by the evolution of a species which, I suspected, was never intended to get that far before being harvested.  When he saw humans had infiltrated his installation, he was infuriated; he attacks them, then gets ready to head off and complete the mission.  As Scott said about the derelict in Alien over the course of so many interviews and commentaries over the years, the juggernaut is a bomber and the Engineer/jockey its pilot.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 21, 2012, 05:48:43 AM
QuoteOr maybe they did and we just don't know it.

Pity no one from there helped the Hadley colonists.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: whiterabbit on Sep 21, 2012, 06:07:29 AM
If engineers are supposed to be gods... what's the problem with creating a moon or two from scratch?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 21, 2012, 06:30:21 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 21, 2012, 03:12:45 AM
I guess Z2R moved about 4 light years further away, and the gas giant gained another moon (and on that moon was the Derelict) in the intervening 30 years.

And WY and the ECA chose a much more difficult planet to terraform...

Sounds plausible.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: boostedlsj on Sep 21, 2012, 06:34:24 AM
Damn now that link to the deleted scenes has been removed. I really want to show these to my fiance. Can anyone help me out. Maybe somebody here dowloaded them or knows where to go to watch the scenes. Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 21, 2012, 06:58:30 AM
DVD will be out soon enough.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Promethée on Sep 21, 2012, 07:59:37 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 21, 2012, 06:07:29 AM
If engineers are supposed to be gods... what's the problem with creating a moon or two from scratch?

They are not supposed to be gods, just an advanced species.
Actually it's likely they are evolved humans.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Darth Vile on Sep 21, 2012, 09:04:56 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 20, 2012, 10:08:05 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 20, 2012, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
That's why the build-up works so well- he walks in calmly, surveys his surroundings, actually seems to be interested in what he sees, and when he sees her, you can tell he's not lashing out because Grrrr Monster Argh- there's clearly something going on in his mind.

I can't see that... I just see more of the giant carrot man from The Thing From Another World and or Boris Karloff's monster.
And in the first two Karloff Frankenstein films, there was something going on his mind.
Same with The Thing From Another World and the Predator. Sure a sentient being, but they hardly come across as super intelectuals capable of kick-starting 'life as we know it'. Perhaps they are not supposed to be all powerful/intelectual... but I thought that was one of the weaker elements of the movie. I don't think this is particularly helpded by the extended version as it makes the engineers behaviour seem more irrational and less inteligent.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SiL on Sep 21, 2012, 09:11:23 AM
From the deleted scenes and the finished movie I'm left with the impression that they never knew quite what it was they wanted out of the Engineers as actual characters in the film. Probably would've been better off staying dead.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Salt The Fries on Sep 21, 2012, 09:48:55 AM
^ I can see your point. At least they'd get to wait to the sequel to settle on what to do with them...
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Darth Vile on Sep 21, 2012, 10:41:45 AM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 21, 2012, 09:11:23 AM
From the deleted scenes and the finished movie I'm left with the impression that they never knew quite what it was they wanted out of the Engineers as actual characters in the film. Probably would've been better off staying dead.
Yep - I kind of agree. I think it's ultimately a difficult premise to get right and to make work. You want to portray these 'God' like creatures who have the power to create or destroy in an instant, they have to make their moral code ambiguous and are the fulcrum of the movie... However, they don't actually get that much screen time. The concept/notion of the engineer race is more scary than the reality on screen. Very much like the xeno, the more culture/context you give them, the less scary they become... IMHO.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: LarsVader on Sep 21, 2012, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 21, 2012, 06:58:30 AM
DVD will be out soon enough.
But they'll probably not be on the DVD.  :'(
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Darth Vile on Sep 21, 2012, 05:19:27 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Sep 21, 2012, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 21, 2012, 06:58:30 AM
DVD will be out soon enough.
But they'll probably not be on the DVD.  :'(

They'll be on the blu ray though... so they will be public, and made public soon enough.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Xan21 on Sep 21, 2012, 05:38:34 PM
Watching the final fight between Noomi & The Engineer in the original cut seems very weird now...so out of the blue...
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: 180924609 on Sep 21, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Oh boy, I would have enjoyed Prometheus far more had these scenes been included. I might even have rated this movie a solid 6.9! (It still needs a re-shoot to correct the abysmal Milburn and Fifield shambles).

Deleted scenes that NEED re-including:

Vickers and Janek: YES
Extended Engineer vs Weyland: YES
Extended Engineer vs Shaw: YES

Why the hell did Ridley remove the Engineer vs Shaw scene? It plays out like an echo of the dining room 'Ash encounter' from ALIEN (but with a jingling chandelier instead of bouncy toys!). I also love the way the Engineer is revealed to be not completely devoid of emotion and yearns for innocence, music, love when he stares at the giant viewscreen.

Plus, as @ThisBethesdaSea mentioned, the scene works so well because of the SILENCE. It almost has a 'The Shining' quality to it.

I guess a Special Edition is now inevitable.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Xenomorphine on Sep 22, 2012, 12:58:43 AM
Quote from: fiveways on Sep 21, 2012, 03:56:17 AM
Since he was ordered to wipe out humanity 2000 years ago maybe that lash out was in fear.  Fear that the children might be almost on par technologically with his own race.  He sees what we are capable of, so maybe he is starting to imagine the weapons we have developed over the last 2000 years.

Maybe that evolution was what he was sent to earth to purposely disrupt.  Seeing his failure the backlash is in pure rage.

Considering our level of technology, all that time ago, that makes them a race of severely paranoid dicks. :-\

Quote from: 180924609 on Sep 21, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Deleted scenes that NEED re-including

I honestly haven't seen anything which needs inclusion. Nothing, so far, is a deal-breaker.

QuoteWhy the hell did Ridley remove the Engineer vs Shaw scene?

Don't know, but it didn't seem necessary. Makes the final confrontation a bit longer and that's about it. Some interesting Engineer reactions to what it finds, but... Eh. Nothing revolutionary.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Bluesweet on Sep 22, 2012, 09:04:04 PM
Engineer´s prototype has some similarities with classic film
The Thing from Another World (1951) 

If not sure, take a look at this comparative between two frankymonsters:


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Excelent final scene deleted between Engineer vs Rapace.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: zuzuki on Sep 22, 2012, 10:02:50 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:36:54 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:20 AM
eh. Robert Rodriguez has a funny way of going about producing films due to the insane number of projects he has in his hands.. the Sin City sequel is being filmed this year... and the original came out in 2005... we'll inevitably see another Predator film.... it'll just take a few more years. :P
You keep tellin' yourself that. ;) For something that only had a $40 million budget and made roughly $137 worldwide, tripling it's budget (which Prometheus failed to do), no one at Fox seems to care much.

But apparently a mega-expensive film with a $200 million plus budget w/advertising that doesn't even have that level of profit is apparently seriously being fast-tracked for another $200 million plus budget sequel that would maybe lose money.

Keep dreaming, boys.

Prometheus did triple the budget it had.it's at 400 million now
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Gazz on Sep 23, 2012, 02:25:12 AM
Yeah. Prometheus is reported to be at $391m WW on a $130m budget.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ikarop on Sep 23, 2012, 03:31:25 AM
The Damon Lindelof/Jon Spaihts audio commentary has been released online attached to a Russian iTunes version of the film. Google it or PM.

They talk about a lot of stuff from the early scripts. They mention a "Paradise" scene too. A deleted scene where Shaw asks David what it is that the Engineer said to him during their conversation (it seems like there were 2 script pages worth of Engineer/David dialogue). David tells her that the Engineer told him that they were not from there [LV-223] but "Paradise". This comment is made by Lindelof towards the end of the film when David contacts Shaw after having fought the Engineer.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: zuzuki on Sep 23, 2012, 07:54:11 AM
Jeezus. I think they even filmed the whole dialogue but cut it. Even in the deleted scene we have now, David doesn't tell the engineer what Weyland said making the engineer reaction seem out of place,also the engineer is at one point sitting low,then all of a suden he is on his feet. I don't really understand what was Ridley thinking when he butchered this movie. I'm beginning to think the script isn't as f**ked up as the movie makes it out to be. Now the question is what is the ''paradise'' scene from the extras. Did they really shot the engineer home world?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Salt The Fries on Sep 23, 2012, 08:13:44 AM
My god, what retards...
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 23, 2012, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 23, 2012, 03:31:25 AM
The Damon Lindelof/Jon Spaihts audio commentary has been released online attached to a Russian iTunes version of the film. Google it or PM.

They talk about a lot of stuff from the early scripts. They mention a "Paradise" scene too. A deleted scene where Shaw asks David what it is that the Engineer said to him during their conversation (it seems like there were 2 script pages worth of Engineer/David dialogue). David tells her that the Engineer told him that they were not from there [LV-223] but "Paradise". This comment is made by Lindelof towards the end of the film when David contacts Shaw after having fought the Engineer.

Worth looking for?
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Xenomorphine on Sep 23, 2012, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: zuzuki on Sep 23, 2012, 07:54:11 AM
I don't really understand what was Ridley thinking when he butchered this movie.

Nothing you specified really equates to "butchering" it. Most likely, he was thinking the same kind of thing which led to the cocoon scene's removal from 'Alien' - pacing and rhythm. Whether you agree with him is a different matter.

Honestly, everything I've seen, so far, just seems relatively trivial. There's nothing which completely changes a scene's interpretation or anything like that.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Kol on Sep 23, 2012, 01:48:46 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 23, 2012, 12:56:01 PM
Honestly, everything I've seen, so far, just seems relatively trivial. There's nothing which completely changes a scene's interpretation or anything like that.

maybe not, but plotholes like "no one mentioning what happens to shaw and the trilobite" are no longer plotholes.
vickers mentioned something to weyland like "the squealing thing right next door".
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ikarop on Sep 23, 2012, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from: zuzuki on Sep 23, 2012, 07:54:11 AM
Now the question is what is the ''paradise'' scene from the extras. Did they really shot the engineer home world?

Possibly just an extended ending scene with more dialogue between David and Shaw while at LV-223. That's the impression I got from the commentary.

Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 23, 2012, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 23, 2012, 03:31:25 AM
The Damon Lindelof/Jon Spaihts audio commentary has been released online attached to a Russian iTunes version of the film. Google it or PM.

They talk about a lot of stuff from the early scripts. They mention a "Paradise" scene too. A deleted scene where Shaw asks David what it is that the Engineer said to him during their conversation (it seems like there were 2 script pages worth of Engineer/David dialogue). David tells her that the Engineer told him that they were not from there [LV-223] but "Paradise". This comment is made by Lindelof towards the end of the film when David contacts Shaw after having fought the Engineer.

Worth looking for?

Yeah, it has quite a few new bits.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Bluesweet on Sep 23, 2012, 10:35:20 PM
Reviewing again Engineer vs Rapace deleted scene, I m wondering
If He wasn't already behind her, seems a shadow behind the window.


Spoiler
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Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: gigantitan on Sep 24, 2012, 02:23:34 PM
where can i see the deleted scenes? When i saw that somebody posted, FOX had already deleted it
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: ikarop on Sep 24, 2012, 03:24:48 PM
Quote from: gigantitan on Sep 24, 2012, 02:23:34 PM
where can i see the deleted scenes? When i saw that somebody posted, FOX had already deleted it
http://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807 (http://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: gigantitan on Sep 24, 2012, 03:46:50 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 24, 2012, 03:24:48 PM
Quote from: gigantitan on Sep 24, 2012, 02:23:34 PM
where can i see the deleted scenes? When i saw that somebody posted, FOX had already deleted it
http://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807 (http://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807)
thanks dude  8)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Stratocaster on Sep 25, 2012, 12:03:30 PM
Cool! I have watched the deleted scenes many times on Abando Movies, I guess the Fox laywers are having a tough time intimedating them. ;D
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Shasvre on Sep 25, 2012, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 24, 2012, 03:24:48 PMhttp://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807 (http://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807)
Thanks, I had not seen those before. The scene with Vickers and Janek was nice. I wish they would have kept that in the movie.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Magegg on Sep 25, 2012, 11:25:49 PM
Quote from: Laufey on Sep 25, 2012, 12:24:06 PMThe scene with Vickers and Janek was nice. I wish they would have kept that in the movie.
I don't. I preferred to think Janek screwed her  8)
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: BANE on Sep 25, 2012, 11:50:24 PM
He still did...that's post sex.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: zakzak on Sep 26, 2012, 01:06:43 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 19, 2012, 07:22:14 AM
Don't like the Engineer talking, I think it's better if he's silent.

I'm still of the opinion that the Engineer and the Space Jockey in 'Alien' are actually completely different races - while the Engineers made us, perhaps the Space Jockeys made them, but not in their own image, and the Engineers are merely mimicking their creators' technology while creating in their own image.

This is making me want to wait for an "extended cut" blu-ray.

I am on the side of  the theory that the Engineers and the Elephantine Being are 2 separate races. Looking at the way the Engineer fashion the helmet to appear as the Elephantine Race points to 2 possibilities: 1) They stole/adopted./appropriated technology from the Jockeys 2) The Jockeys are the Engineer's God/Higher Power. The statues in front of the pilot room, the helmet are display of cult-like respect.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: SM on Sep 26, 2012, 09:37:04 PM
If the Jockey had been on 426 for thousands of years longer than the Engineers on 223 - easy explanation for design differences.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: acrediblesource on Sep 26, 2012, 09:48:14 PM
Believe what you will, but they both fit into those blasted suits however differently sized and both use the orrey just as good.  Whether or not they have elephant trunks for real underneath is irrelevant.


Quote from: zakzak on Sep 26, 2012, 01:06:43 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 19, 2012, 07:22:14 AM
Don't like the Engineer talking, I think it's better if he's silent.

I'm still of the opinion that the Engineer and the Space Jockey in 'Alien' are actually completely different races - while the Engineers made us, perhaps the Space Jockeys made them, but not in their own image, and the Engineers are merely mimicking their creators' technology while creating in their own image.

This is making me want to wait for an "extended cut" blu-ray.

I am on the side of  the theory that the Engineers and the Elephantine Being are 2 separate races. Looking at the way the Engineer fashion the helmet to appear as the Elephantine Race points to 2 possibilities: 1) They stole/adopted./appropriated technology from the Jockeys 2) The Jockeys are the Engineer's God/Higher Power. The statues in front of the pilot room, the helmet are display of cult-like respect.
Title: Re: Prometheus Deleted Scenes Images
Post by: Magegg on Sep 27, 2012, 12:10:32 AM
Quote from: zakzak on Sep 26, 2012, 01:06:43 PMI am on the side of  the theory that the Engineers and the Elephantine Being are 2 separate races. Looking at the way the Engineer fashion the helmet to appear as the Elephantine Race points to 2 possibilities: 1) They stole/adopted./appropriated technology from the Jockeys 2) The Jockeys are the Engineer's God/Higher Power. The statues in front of the pilot room, the helmet are display of cult-like respect.
An entirely baseless and pointless "theory".