AvPGalaxy Forums

Archive => Archive => The Predator Speculation => Topic started by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 15, 2016, 07:34:12 PM

Title: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 15, 2016, 07:34:12 PM

James Franco to star in The Predator? According to the latest episode of Meet the Movie Press, James Franco’s agency Creative Artists Agency is pushing for Franco to be cast in Shane Black’s The Predator.

This rumor comes via Jeff Sneider (of The Wrap) who had previously mentioned (although it wasn’t widely reported) that Shane Black had his eyes on several actors who had appeared in the Batman films.

Apparently, it was Ben Affleck that Shane Black was after (with Christan Bale and Tom Hardy as second choices) but Affleck passed. According to Sneider, CAA are pushing for James Franco to star as McKenna, the lead in The Predator. Although Franco is apparently not one of Black’s top choices, he is supposedly high on CAA’s list for this casting and as such are pushing him for the role. The discussion takes place at around 27:30 in the video below.

Sneider had also mentioned that Bradley Cooper had also been approached about a role but had passed on the opportunity. If these rumors are indeed true, it would appear Fox and Shane Black have their eyes on big A-listers to lead the cast of The Predator.

James Franco to Star in The Predator?

James Franco to Star in The Predator?

Previous to this, the only other news we’ve heard about the casting of The Predator was that Curtis Jackson had said he would be appearing in the film and that Arnold could possibly appear. What do you think of the possibility of James Franco in the starring role of the new Predator film? Let us know in the comments below. Thanks to Heroic Hollywood and Ed Arent for the news.

Link To Post

Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: ROYCE_THE_PREDATOR on Jul 15, 2016, 07:45:40 PM
Shit I never would of thought of that and I think its BadAss!!!! I would be so down for James Franco in the film as the main action Badass star!!!! I'm surprised Ben Affleck and Bradley Cooper turned the roles down. I'm a fan of both guys as actors as well. But wow I'm on board for James Franco in The Predator!!!! :D :D
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: Xan21 on Jul 15, 2016, 07:46:04 PM
Surprised...to say the least...just when Pianist guy was announced for Predators, don't know what to think of it yet... At least he's a good actor.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: me on Jul 15, 2016, 07:48:13 PM
While Predator was really a anti-macho movie (The Predator broke down the walls these macho men put up and revealed them to be afraid little men, except for Dutch who never pretended to be someone he wasn't thus allowing him to defeat the Predator) I don't know how Franco is going to work here. I think he is going to have to pull off a performance of a lifetime.  Perhaps he will play a detective tracking down the Predator (moreso than Glover's character).  I thought when Black said this was a detective story, I was hoping the detective would be the predator.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 15, 2016, 08:00:05 PM
Black did hint at a possible detective story. I wouldn't think of Franco for the lead in something like the first Predator but something a little less 80s action, I can see him in. I think this comes with the same sigma that McBride's casting did, and that's that Franco is a largely known for comedy.

Franco has some other great things. I loved him Rise of Planet of the Apes. I think it's important to remember that if this is legit (and considering the source, I wouldn't think it wouldn't be) then it's the agency that is pushing Franco, not him being Black's choice.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: ROYCE_THE_PREDATOR on Jul 15, 2016, 08:01:41 PM
John Davis previously said the new film will break new ground, which seems to be the trend for movies these days. Meaning do something very cool and different from what we've seen before. So I think The Predator himself will be centered alot in the movie from his perspective.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: me on Jul 15, 2016, 08:07:59 PM
Yes, Franco is very capable but I think this is going to be challenging for him. If he gets the role, good luck to him.  I was sad to see Affleck pass (maybe due to his Batman commitments) and Bradley Cooper pass. 

Perhaps this is hinting to a Se7en or The Long Halloween (Batman comic), where grisly murders are occurring and the detective has to track down the usual suspects before the Predator is revealed.  There might be a problem in this because everyone knows about the Predator.  Or perhaps they can put a twist on this that might make this fresh where the audience won't be ahead of the character before the film ends.

We will see soon enough.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 15, 2016, 08:12:50 PM
Quote from: me on Jul 15, 2016, 08:07:59 PM
Perhaps this is hinting to a Se7en or The Long Halloween (Batman comic), where grisly murders are occurring and the detective has to track down the usual suspects before the Predator is revealed.  There might be a problem in this because everyone knows about the Predator.  Or perhaps they can put a twist on this that might make this fresh where the audience won't be ahead of the character before the film ends.

I think if they do go down the detective route, the character needs to be as informed as the audience. We already had one detective story with Predator 2, a complete repeat wouldn't do well imho. Perhaps McKenna is there, specifically looking for the Predator. He works for what's left of Keye's team or some government agency, or hell maybe even Dutch.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: me on Jul 15, 2016, 08:23:36 PM
Hicks, I totally agree.  They can't let the audience be ahead of the character.  Two ways to accomplish this.  The first way as you said is have the audience and character know about the Predator, be on the same page.  The second is to keep them in the moment as they take the journey along with the character (Cameron did this with Titanic and Gibson did this with the Passion, distracting them from the obvious ending). 

I personally would like to see a technology-less Predator have to rely on its wits and whatever weapons become handy to take down a group of heavily armed individuals.  Don't make the Predator the hero or good guy, there will be none in this movie....but make it about how good of a hunter the Predator is.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: overthere on Jul 15, 2016, 08:27:41 PM
Imagine if Ben Affleck accepted. The movie would have been extremely popular just because of him. I'm disappointed he turned it down.
I don't see Franco in this, though before I knew he was more of a comedy guy, I saw him in Spiderman and he was convincing to me there.

By the way, Adrian Brody was excellent in Predators.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: whiterabbit on Jul 15, 2016, 08:30:46 PM
James Franco seems an odd choice out of left field but hey, sometimes you've gotta change up your A-game.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: overthere on Jul 15, 2016, 08:36:22 PM
I don't think anyone could take Franco seriously in a Predator movie. Least of all the actual Predator, as he'd never consider him a target.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: Xan21 on Jul 15, 2016, 08:36:49 PM
I really don't like Adrien Brody in Predators, but that could have been bad directing. I hate how he uses his affectated voice and a lot of other stuff that bugged me. He is a good actor really, but not in that mediocre wannabe film.

Ben Affleck & Christian Bale are just other A-listers which I really do not care about at all so I'm happy their not in it either They are actors the way Beyonce is a singer, they act like they're a gift from god. Tom Hardy would have been fantastic.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Jul 15, 2016, 08:45:58 PM
Plot twist James Franco's actually playing The PREDATOR DUN DUN DUH! :P
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: overthere on Jul 15, 2016, 08:47:41 PM
James Franco actually is the predator. He was obsessed by the 1987. story that he became a copycat. The actual Predator didn't even get to Earth.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: Xan21 on Jul 15, 2016, 08:51:12 PM
He does have dirty scary teeth haha
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 15, 2016, 09:34:45 PM
Not sure what to think of it or how to feel about it..

Then again, not the first Spider-Man actor to be in a Predator film.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Jul 15, 2016, 09:42:24 PM
Well, at least its not Jai Courtney
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: Xan21 on Jul 15, 2016, 09:44:34 PM
He will be rumoured next ;-)
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jul 15, 2016, 09:48:19 PM
Still so damn disappointed over Affleck, Cooper, Hardy and Bale. How was not one of those guys available to work with Shane Black...
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: Xan21 on Jul 15, 2016, 09:51:32 PM
Bale is a nightmare, Affleck is a bit of a knob, Cooper is way too pretty and Hardy is working on Dunkirk
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jul 15, 2016, 09:54:21 PM
LOL please. Please. I wasn't asking for opinions on them. Those guys are great actors and can open movies. Coincidentally, the only one you didn't insult is the one dude who can't open a movie on his name alone. Bale, Affleck and Cooper would've sent The Predator into the box office stratosphere.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: Xan21 on Jul 15, 2016, 10:00:35 PM
so it's all about money in the end  ;-)
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jul 15, 2016, 10:11:58 PM
Yup, film business.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Jul 15, 2016, 10:57:29 PM
After Terminator 4 I can see why Bale would turn down Predator 4.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: I.drank.all.the.sprites on Jul 15, 2016, 11:03:55 PM
Just cast Dwayne Johnson in it and be done.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jul 15, 2016, 11:09:14 PM
Shane Black is different from McG.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Keith on Jul 16, 2016, 01:51:06 AM
who were the female lead choices again?
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jul 16, 2016, 02:22:22 AM
Anne Hathaway would be amazing.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Keith on Jul 16, 2016, 02:52:09 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fr%2Fscbu.gif&hash=ea533986e62cdde16820fcabfcfc4b0418e70b0d)
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jul 16, 2016, 03:46:29 AM
Yawn. Michelle Rodriguez huh? Yaaaaaawn.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Shasvre on Jul 16, 2016, 03:45:28 PM
My #1 choice would be Frank Grillo, but I would be okay with Franco.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: DUB1 on Jul 16, 2016, 04:47:46 PM
James Franco would be interesting, seeing as he wouldn't be too obvious.

I like how they've been casting less expected actors since P2. Danny Glover, Adrien Brody, and now possibly James Franco. Much more interesting choices than the Rock and Vin Diesel, so-called Arnie types that together still wouldn't be half as charismatic as Arnie. Imo, the only actors that are as charismatic are mostly guys just as old as Arnie or only a few years younger. Basically, P1 can't be recreated by simply casting any muscle man in the lead role.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jul 16, 2016, 07:30:08 PM
Not a huge lover of Franco, but at the same time I wouldn't hate him being the lead.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: DOOMGUY on Jul 16, 2016, 07:52:31 PM
I don't mind if he gets cast, just as long as he is not the main character but a side character. However, I would have liked for Karl Urban to be the main character because of his performance in DOOM, but he is busy with other movies. I'm aware that DOOM wasn't that good because it wasn't like the video games, but I'm talking about his role in the movie.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: Alien³ on Jul 16, 2016, 09:16:17 PM
I'd be so game to see Franco in The Predator.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: ROYCE_THE_PREDATOR on Jul 16, 2016, 10:19:21 PM
If all those guys mentioned above passed on The Predator because of conflicting movie sheduals then ok thats not bad but if they all passed on it because they weren't interested in the movie the creature of Predator than thats weird and strange. Who wouldn't want to be the Star in a Predator movie? Lol that would be so awsome. If I was an actor I would love to have a Predator movie under my belt.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: Xan21 on Jul 16, 2016, 10:38:33 PM
We had two terrible VS films and one mediocre sequel. It's like after Jurassic Park 3 it really wasn't cool to be considered for a JP film... it took a long time. So it's not really weird if they passed on starring in the film because of the creature.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jul 16, 2016, 11:00:43 PM
Well Royce, when a director like Shane Black takes the helm, it's more of a "Shane Black movie" than a "Predator movie". Predators was a "Predator movie", because Nimrod Antal isn't a top-tier filmmaker. But this is not just another, mere Predator entry anymore.

And Xan, who says it wasn't cool to be considered for a JP film? That's baseless and without merit. When you're working with the likes of Ridley Scott and Shane Black, it doesn't matter if 20 bad entries preceded the next entry if it's by such master filmmakers. So with that thinking, Bale, Freeman, Caine and Neeson should've declined Batman Begins because of Batman & Robin and Batman Forever.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: Xan21 on Jul 16, 2016, 11:10:01 PM
Oh that's why it took them 14 years to release another one right? JP3 ruined the franchise... Predators didn't give the franchise a better name either...so I wouldn't be surprised most 'respectable' actors are up for it right now.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jul 16, 2016, 11:33:34 PM
It wasn't for a lack of trying. They couldn't crack a good JP4 story. JPIII still made a profit. But the hiatus turned out to be for the better, no franchise fatigue.

Predators made money and received good reviews, it helped the franchise just a tad. Not by an significant proportion though. And again, Blake is different from Antal. It's ok though. If someone doesn't understand this, it's because they choose not to.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: blood. on Jul 17, 2016, 09:04:06 AM
Maybe after he inevitably defeats the predator they will share a spliff and laugh about their good ole tussle together before the predator nukes them both.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: Thomas H. on Jul 17, 2016, 09:11:03 AM
Franco has been good in some stuff, less good in others. To me, it all depends on what character they are creating. If they want to go for a hard as nails, Dutch-like character, then no. But a normal guy, a cop or a detective, who's trying to solve some unexplained killings.... That could work.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Capfan85 on Jul 17, 2016, 09:33:21 AM
At first I thought James Franco would be a bad idea but maybe this film will have a different plot and focus more of the Predators.  Since Shane Black promised he would show us what was behind the curtain and Dekker said "who knows if their agenda has changed" when talking about the predators.  He also mentioned that the characters will be from a variety of different back grounds. 

As much as I would like to see Dwyane Johnson square off against a Prefator, I think this could be interesting.  Predator was very much a Schwarzenegger film and the director capitalized on the action hero popularity at the time, and Schwarzenegger rose to popularity after Terminator 1 and Commando in 84 and 85. 

To make Predator popular for the average person now Shane Black has to cast a more average looking cast  that people in this generation know and can relate to.

Maybe James Franco won't be battling the Predators directly like Arnold did, but maybe he is more of an intelligence officer or detective trying to learn about them.

I think this film will be more focused on story line, plot, and character development instead of just a platoon in a jungle fighting an alien.  I think Shane Black wants to develop the characters more and the story of the Predator society to make it exciting.  This could possibly set up for a sequel if done right, and possibly tie it into other parts if the same universe like aliens and the engineers. 

My short list would be:
Dwayne Johnson
Ray Stevenson (Punisher War zone)
Karl Urban (Dredd, Doom)

Who says you cant have an a-lister like James Franco playing a less physical role sich as a detective or government agent trying to piece together the puzzle about the Predators.  Combine with someone like Dwyane Johnson or Ray Stevenson taking on the Predator in the physical role. 



Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Stealth_Hunter on Jul 17, 2016, 02:28:58 PM
Has it been confirmed that Hardy passed on a role? It would be nothing short of amazing to see that guy in a predator film.

I have mixed feelings about Franco. He can be such a talented dramatic actor when he wants to be but he's also a guy who has been roasted on comedy central and is known for being a bit odd at times.

I really hope Black gets a supporting cast that skyrockets the film's popularity. Shame Affleck and Cooper passed but I'm holding out hope for some other big names.

Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Master on Jul 17, 2016, 02:54:49 PM
I'm not very thrilled with this news. Not what I'd expect.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: KirklandSignature on Jul 17, 2016, 11:27:10 PM
Quote from: Master on Jul 17, 2016, 02:54:49 PM
I'm not very thrilled with this news. Not what I'd expect.

He delivered a good performance in the apes remake. I couldn't see him as a soldier type though.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 18, 2016, 07:22:04 AM
He wouldn't be believable in a military/hard-man/Arnie role. I don't think that's where we're going to see the movie go though.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Thomas H. on Jul 18, 2016, 08:29:37 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 18, 2016, 07:22:04 AM
He wouldn't be believable in a military/hard-man/Arnie role. I don't think that's where we're going to see the movie go though.

I agree. Although I have no doubt it will be actionpacked, it won't be the kind of actionscenes we're used to from a Predator film.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: T Dog on Jul 18, 2016, 12:21:39 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 18, 2016, 07:22:04 AM
He wouldn't be believable in a military/hard-man/Arnie role. I don't think that's where we're going to see the movie go though.
True but Hardy/Bale/Affleck would have been able to pull off the military dude and/or detective.

I think Franco would make a good crazed paranoid detective who lives in a tiny messy apartment, stinks of cigerettes and booze and looks like he hasn't slept in a week.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: DaddyYautja on Jul 18, 2016, 05:10:51 PM
They already tried this with Brody, hell, they basically did it with with Glover.

So what exactly is the point of picking a skinny dude?

Come on! If the Predator is going to be taken out by a human lets make the human into a bit of a challenge.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: DUB1 on Jul 18, 2016, 05:47:36 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jul 18, 2016, 05:10:51 PM
They already tried this with Brody, hell, they basically did it with with Glover.

So what exactly is the point of picking a skinny dude?

Come on! If the Predator is going to be taken out by a human lets make the human into a bit of a challenge.

And once again, some people fail to realize that Arnie's physical prowess didn't mean squat against the Predator. Hell, I'm sure a human lightweight's punch could hurt a human heavyweight a lot more than Arnie's punch hurt the Predator, if you can call it hurt.

Short of physical and/or technological enhancements, a human can only defeat a Predator by outsmarting it.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jul 18, 2016, 05:54:27 PM
Lol if Arnold wasn't even a challenge, who would be a challenge? Whenever Arnold had the drop on the creature, it was never due to his physical strength, it was due to ingenuity. And seriously how much hand to hand combat could there be? We saw a fair amount of that in Predators at the end. Royce punching a predator several times, it's like ok, we get it.

While I would've vastly preferred Affleck or Cooper, I think Franco would be a fine choice. He's better than most of the actors in the Predator series. I'm holding out hope that Ryan Gosling will star. He'd be amazing. Yeah he's filming Blade Runner 2, but push filming back to October or November and you'd be good.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: DaddyYautja on Jul 18, 2016, 06:04:59 PM
Quote from: DUB1 on Jul 18, 2016, 05:47:36 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jul 18, 2016, 05:10:51 PM
They already tried this with Brody, hell, they basically did it with with Glover.

So what exactly is the point of picking a skinny dude?

Come on! If the Predator is going to be taken out by a human lets make the human into a bit of a challenge.

And once again, some people fail to realize that Arnie's physical prowess didn't mean squat against the Predator. Hell, I'm sure a human lightweight's punch could hurt a human heavyweight a lot more than Arnie's punch hurt the Predator, if you can call it hurt.

Short of physical and/or technological enhancements, a human can only defeat a Predator by outsmarting it.

But we should all be sure that Dutch's training made so he could take the abuse that he was handed down.

The point is that in the movie Dutch was picked as a target was because he was a good specimen.  The Pred took his mask off to face him in an even fight. As even as it was going to get.

Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: DUB1 on Jul 18, 2016, 06:30:40 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jul 18, 2016, 06:04:59 PM
But we should all be sure that Dutch's training made so he could take the abuse that he was handed down.

The point is that in the movie Dutch was picked as a target was because he was a good specimen.  The Pred took his mask off to face him in an even fight. As even as it was going to get.

And such an even fight that was. An old woman could hurt a young man with her bare hands more than Dutch hurt the Predator. Dutch's punch wasn't even like a scratch, but more like a very light tap on the Predator's face.

Dutch's smarts is why the Predator thought him a worthy adversary, and why he won.

Honestly, this argument boils down to people favoring big men, to such an extent that no feat is unrealistic for them. A guy like James Franco defeating a Predator, even if it's strictly through traps and weapons, will be deemed unrealistic, only because he's not a hoss, even though that's exactly how Dutch won.

After all, only big men are allowed unrealistic feats of strenght (sarcasm). Not smaller men, and especially not women.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Infected on Jul 18, 2016, 07:37:45 PM
It starts to crumble, told you this aint gonna work.
Pick Seth Rogen, the other Franco brother, Channing Tatum and Zac Efron also and just do a copy of Predator 2.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: DaddyYautja on Jul 18, 2016, 07:54:03 PM
Quote from: DUB1 on Jul 18, 2016, 06:30:40 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jul 18, 2016, 06:04:59 PM
But we should all be sure that Dutch's training made so he could take the abuse that he was handed down.

The point is that in the movie Dutch was picked as a target was because he was a good specimen.  The Pred took his mask off to face him in an even fight. As even as it was going to get.

And such an even fight that was. An old woman could hurt a young man with her bare hands more than Dutch hurt the Predator. Dutch's punch wasn't even like a scratch, but more like a very light tap on the Predator's face.

I guess i should have elaborated a bit because i never said that Dutch was able to match the Pred but you keep bringing that up for some reason.

I said that i want the dude taking on the pred to appear to be a bit of challenge.  Dutch looks like he can kick butt but we end up finding out that he is not. That's a smart thing the movie portrays. These huge men were nothing against the pred.

Quote

Dutch's smarts is why the Predator thought him a worthy adversary, and why he won.

Did i say otherwise?

Quote
Honestly, this argument boils down to people favoring big men, to such an extent that no feat is unrealistic for them.

Yeah, it's clear that i would prefer a bigger guy but at what point did i claim no feat is unrealistic for them?

QuoteA guy like James Franco defeating a Predator, even if it's strictly through traps and weapons, will be deemed unrealistic, only because he's not a hoss, even though that's exactly how Dutch won.

When did it say that?

I just said i want the dude facing him to appear to be a challenge.

QuoteAfter all, only big men are allowed unrealistic feats of strenght (sarcasm). Not smaller men, and especially not women.

..... are you James Franco?
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: overthere on Jul 18, 2016, 11:34:48 PM
The only problem with regular people fighting the Predator is how they'd capture the Predator's interest. I don't see Franco being interesting to the Predator.

And being big does play a role. Just look at how much the Predator abused Dutch and he was still able to crawl away.

But we're all assuming the main character fights the Predator. I have a hunch our main character won't be facing the Predator directly.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Jul 21, 2016, 06:33:39 PM
This might work depending on what the character is like and what exactly his interaction with the predator is.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Denton Smalls on Jul 21, 2016, 11:12:45 PM
QuoteMy #1 choice would be Frank Grillo, but I would be okay with Franco.

Frank Grillo I 100% agree. Guy is amazing in every film he does.

I like the potential casting of Franco. I give him props for always stepping into different types of roles. Guy even did a soap opera for God's sake lol.

I like Affleck but more as a director. I didn't see Batman v Superman yet (and probably won't) so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though.

I actually think his bro Casey is better in front of the camera.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 22, 2016, 07:30:43 AM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 18, 2016, 11:34:48 PM
The only problem with regular people fighting the Predator is how they'd capture the Predator's interest. I don't see Franco being interesting to the Predator.

I really don't think it's just down to physical prowess. We saw that to a degree in Predators. They don't have to be muscle bound Olympians to be dangerous.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Master on Jul 22, 2016, 07:57:13 AM
Yeah but still gagn of tough as nails muscle guys like Diesel and Rock, supported by Karl Urban and Frank Grillo would be nice throwback to original. Something I`d love to see in new Predator. Well, maybe in Predator V.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Predator_Spirit on Jul 22, 2016, 12:03:11 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 22, 2016, 07:30:43 AM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 18, 2016, 11:34:48 PM
The only problem with regular people fighting the Predator is how they'd capture the Predator's interest. I don't see Franco being interesting to the Predator.

I really don't think it's just down to physical prowess. We saw that to a degree in Predators. They don't have to be muscle bound Olympians to be dangerous.

The Rodriguez supaaah predators are not our regular true predators, so their habits shouldn't be relevant , I don't see
a classic predator interested by Topher Grace character.


As for James Franco, I think they're just kidding us.I don't picture this wimp involved as a lead character.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Denton Smalls on Jul 22, 2016, 06:27:54 PM
QuoteAs for James Franco, I think they're just kidding us.I don't picture this wimp involved as a lead character.

I was a little shaky about Adrien Brody for the same reason but he nailed it.

I like the possible change from muscle man to Everyman.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predato...
Post by: Xan21 on Jul 22, 2016, 07:42:56 PM
Adrien Brody tried way too hard, with the voice... so annoying, but well... he tried...
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: System Apollo on Jul 23, 2016, 04:58:31 AM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 18, 2016, 11:34:48 PM
The only problem with regular people fighting the Predator is how they'd capture the Predator's interest. I don't see Franco being interesting to the Predator.
But you said that Predator doesn't discriminate!
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: overthere on Jul 23, 2016, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: System Apollo on Jul 23, 2016, 04:58:31 AM
But you said that Predator doesn't discriminate!

Doesn't discriminate between men, women, animals. But you do have to stand out to him as a valuable trophy. Otherwise he'd just be killing everyone on sight.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: DUB1 on Jul 23, 2016, 03:49:10 PM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 23, 2016, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: System Apollo on Jul 23, 2016, 04:58:31 AM
But you said that Predator doesn't discriminate!

Doesn't discriminate between men, women, animals. But you do have to stand out to him as a valuable trophy. Otherwise he'd just be killing everyone on sight.

King Willie in P2 was a middle-aged man armed only with swords. The City Hunter still thought him a good trophy. And Harrigan, played by the "unfit" Danny Glover, was the one the City Hunter deemed it's most worthy prey. Also, what did Jerry Lambert do besides empty a gun at it then swing a machete? Oh yeah, he threw his badge at the Predator. Quite a badass feat. But he ended up a trophy anyway.

Many fans really do seem to assume Predators are incredibly picky about their prey. But I think trying to take a stand against it, even if it completely fails, impresses a Predator enough to make a trophy out of someone's skull. Basically any prey it has a one on one confrontation with.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jul 23, 2016, 04:56:30 PM
Well Lambert had a gun. If you are armed with a gun you're fair game.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: overthere on Jul 23, 2016, 05:50:46 PM
Quote from: DUB1 on Jul 23, 2016, 03:49:10 PM
King Willie in P2 was a middle-aged man armed only with swords. The City Hunter still thought him a good trophy. And Harrigan, played by the "unfit" Danny Glover, was the one the City Hunter deemed it's most worthy prey. Also, what did Jerry Lambert do besides empty a gun at it then swing a machete? Oh yeah, he threw his badge at the Predator. Quite a badass feat. But he ended up a trophy anyway.

Many fans really do seem to assume Predators are incredibly picky about their prey. But I think trying to take a stand against it, even if it completely fails, impresses a Predator enough to make a trophy out of someone's skull. Basically any prey it has a one on one confrontation with.

King Willie was a well respected mob boss. He was on top of the gang and therefore a worthy trophy.

Glover proved himself by driving into the heat of the action and taking out a bunch of thugs on his own. That's how he got the Predator's attention. The rest got killed to taunt Glover more and more, to make him frustrated and angry.

I don't see that happening with Franco at all. But if he's a detective behind the scenes working out what's going on and what the Predator is, I could buy into that.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: System Apollo on Jul 23, 2016, 10:15:28 PM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 23, 2016, 05:50:46 PM
Quote from: DUB1 on Jul 23, 2016, 03:49:10 PM
King Willie in P2 was a middle-aged man armed only with swords. The City Hunter still thought him a good trophy. And Harrigan, played by the "unfit" Danny Glover, was the one the City Hunter deemed it's most worthy prey. Also, what did Jerry Lambert do besides empty a gun at it then swing a machete? Oh yeah, he threw his badge at the Predator. Quite a badass feat. But he ended up a trophy anyway.

Many fans really do seem to assume Predators are incredibly picky about their prey. But I think trying to take a stand against it, even if it completely fails, impresses a Predator enough to make a trophy out of someone's skull. Basically any prey it has a one on one confrontation with.
I don't see that happening with Franco at all. But if he's a detective behind the scenes working out what's going on and what the Predator is, I could buy into that.
Have you seen HomeFront? He was violent in a raw way.
They will not cast James Franco!  :laugh:

Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Denton Smalls on Jul 23, 2016, 11:17:16 PM
"Ya don't see dee eyes of da Demon...until him come callin..."

(2 seconds later)

"AAAAHHHH!!!!"

QuoteHave you seen HomeFront? He was violent in a raw way.

He was so wasted in Homefront. He had a great character that filmmakers just used as another punching bag for Statham.

Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: DUB1 on Jul 24, 2016, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 23, 2016, 05:50:46 PM
Quote from: DUB1 on Jul 23, 2016, 03:49:10 PM
King Willie in P2 was a middle-aged man armed only with swords. The City Hunter still thought him a good trophy. And Harrigan, played by the "unfit" Danny Glover, was the one the City Hunter deemed it's most worthy prey. Also, what did Jerry Lambert do besides empty a gun at it then swing a machete? Oh yeah, he threw his badge at the Predator. Quite a badass feat. But he ended up a trophy anyway.

Many fans really do seem to assume Predators are incredibly picky about their prey. But I think trying to take a stand against it, even if it completely fails, impresses a Predator enough to make a trophy out of someone's skull. Basically any prey it has a one on one confrontation with.

King Willie was a well respected mob boss. He was on top of the gang and therefore a worthy trophy.

Glover proved himself by driving into the heat of the action and taking out a bunch of thugs on his own. That's how he got the Predator's attention. The rest got killed to taunt Glover more and more, to make him frustrated and angry.

I don't see that happening with Franco at all. But if he's a detective behind the scenes working out what's going on and what the Predator is, I could buy into that.

So being a respected mob boss instantly equates to fantastic fighting prowess? Does that mean US presidents are all a bunch of Rambos, or that Marlon Brando's character in the Godfather movies could fight a Predator mano a mano?
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: overthere on Jul 24, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: DUB1 on Jul 24, 2016, 02:27:41 PM
So being a respected mob boss instantly equates to fantastic fighting prowess? Does that mean US presidents are all a bunch of Rambos, or that Marlon Brando's character in the Godfather movies could fight a Predator mano a mano?

Look, no human can be a threat to a Predator. It doesn't matter if it's Dutch or the Godfather, they can't hurt him unless the Predator deliberately makes himself weaker to have more fun.

Yes, I can see the Predator having fun in killing the Godfather, and even the president of the US, which would be impressive to get his skull after going through insane levels of security to get to him. Though that would imply the Predator is aware of political surroundings, which sounds too boring for a Predator to deal with.

It's not about finding a match to fight with one on one, no human can pose a threat like that. It's about finding a trophy that means something, like a well trained soldier, mob boss, etc. People who pose a threat to others, who are considered dangerous, that's a good hunt for the Predator.

Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: System Apollo on Jul 24, 2016, 06:48:54 PM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 24, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: DUB1 on Jul 24, 2016, 02:27:41 PM
So being a respected mob boss instantly equates to fantastic fighting prowess? Does that mean US presidents are all a bunch of Rambos, or that Marlon Brando's character in the Godfather movies could fight a Predator mano a mano?

Look, no human can be a threat to a Predator.
Of course they can. No character other than Keye's team were aware of its existence. The whole reason why the Predator overpowers many of its victims is because they don't even know what it is but it knows what they are.

Intel plays a lot into how someone (or in this case; something) executes threats. If you have soldiers that have no insight in what they are up against obviously they aren't going to fair well against it.

Hence why Royce Da Girlie Man was so successful in fighting them off. He was able to inform himself of their tactics and use it. That is the THREAT not physique. :laugh:
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: overthere on Jul 24, 2016, 07:09:52 PM
Quote from: System Apollo on Jul 24, 2016, 06:48:54 PM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 24, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: DUB1 on Jul 24, 2016, 02:27:41 PM
So being a respected mob boss instantly equates to fantastic fighting prowess? Does that mean US presidents are all a bunch of Rambos, or that Marlon Brando's character in the Godfather movies could fight a Predator mano a mano?

Look, no human can be a threat to a Predator.
Of course they can. No character other than Keye's team were aware of its existence. The whole reason why the Predator overpowers many of its victims is because they don't even know what it is but it knows what they are.

Intel plays a lot into how someone (or in this case; something) executes threats. If you have soldiers that have no insight in what they are up against obviously they aren't going to fair well against it.

Hence why Royce Da Girlie Man was so successful in fighting them off. He was able to inform himself of their tactics and use it. That is the THREAT not physique. :laugh:

So what? Predators would simply adapt to the fact humans now know of their existance, and they'll always have more advanced technology.

And another important thing. Predators prefer to be hidden. If their presence is suddenly well known to humans, they'd stop hunting. They're not going all out on humans, they just want a nice, quiet hunt. Humans knowing about Predators and Predators still continuing their hunt would mean a flat out war, and I don't think Predators want a war.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: System Apollo on Jul 24, 2016, 07:19:13 PM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 24, 2016, 07:09:52 PM
Quote from: System Apollo on Jul 24, 2016, 06:48:54 PM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 24, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: DUB1 on Jul 24, 2016, 02:27:41 PM
So being a respected mob boss instantly equates to fantastic fighting prowess? Does that mean US presidents are all a bunch of Rambos, or that Marlon Brando's character in the Godfather movies could fight a Predator mano a mano?

Look, no human can be a threat to a Predator.
Of course they can. No character other than Keye's team were aware of its existence. The whole reason why the Predator overpowers many of its victims is because they don't even know what it is but it knows what they are.

Intel plays a lot into how someone (or in this case; something) executes threats. If you have soldiers that have no insight in what they are up against obviously they aren't going to fair well against it.

Hence why Royce Da Girlie Man was so successful in fighting them off. He was able to inform himself of their tactics and use it. That is the THREAT not physique. :laugh:

So what? Predators would simply adapt to the fact humans now know of their existance.
Then the humans will now adapt to the Predators adapting to the knowledge that humans know they exist. Thus becoming a threat in the process...

QuoteHumans knowing about Predators and Predators still continuing their hunt would mean a flat out war, and I don't think Predators want a war.

Yes because that would be too threatening for them.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: overthere on Jul 24, 2016, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: System Apollo on Jul 24, 2016, 07:19:13 PM
Yes because that would be too threatening for them.  :laugh:

They hunt Xenomorphs for fun
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: System Apollo on Jul 24, 2016, 07:43:04 PM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 24, 2016, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: System Apollo on Jul 24, 2016, 07:19:13 PM
Yes because that would be too threatening for them.  :laugh:

They hunt Xenomorphs for fun
It can't really be a war when a group can't really invade a said state(in this case; planet) though..
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: Denton Smalls on Jul 26, 2016, 05:00:53 PM
You think King Willie would have won if he wasn't smoking the ganja?

Wasn't really a fair fight if he was high as all hell.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: overthere on Jul 26, 2016, 10:41:34 PM
Quote from: System Apollo on Jul 24, 2016, 07:43:04 PM
]It can't really be a war when a group can't really invade a said state(in this case; planet) though..

What group can't? Predators can but they won't. And if Predators are aware humans know of them and track them on Earth, they'll simply stop coming to Earth.
Title: Re: Casting Rumor: James Franco to Star in The Predator?
Post by: DUB1 on Jul 27, 2016, 04:05:40 PM
Quote from: overthere on Jul 26, 2016, 10:41:34 PM
Quote from: System Apollo on Jul 24, 2016, 07:43:04 PM
]It can't really be a war when a group can't really invade a said state(in this case; planet) though..

What group can't? Predators can but they won't. And if Predators are aware humans know of them and track them on Earth, they'll simply stop coming to Earth.

And how do you know Predators would stop coming to Earth if their existence was public knowledge there? How do you know that they wouldn't like the extra challenge? What is it with these fans who think they have all the answers when the movies haven't actually provided much information?