iTunes has released the HD digital version of Prometheus today which features 4 new alternate and deleted scenes from the film. Below you can find a selection of exclusive images from said scenes, including the “The Engineer Speaks” and “Final Battle”. The other two additional scenes are “Skin” and “Janek fills Vickers in”. You can grab your copy of the film here or here at the official store.
Click on the read more button to see all the images.
This digital release also includes audio commentary from Ridley Scott as well as a “Transmision” featurette video (2:43 min) similar to the one released earlier this month.
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 06:03:45 AM
Shaw hits the engineer with the axe a few times. His blood is colored black and for some reason his face/body isn't burned in these. Then it appears burned at the very end of the scene. Guess they didn't finalize the CGI for this scene either.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 06:07:07 AM
Well, there's another blow to any seamless fan edit.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 18, 2012, 06:07:39 AMThey'd have to CG burn half the Engineer's face for continuity purposes--or subsititute an unmodified shot of the Engineer throwing Noomi against the door. They'd also have to finish the green screen work on those monitors from the Janek Fills Vickers In scene.
So no hopes for a fan edit now. :'( Here's hoping for an extended cut...
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 18, 2012, 07:18:12 AM
The scene of the engineer watching the video transmission; almost standing there in awe... probably gets totally ruined once Shaw axes him in the back.
Why was so much of this cut down and out. I don't see the difference between 2 hours and 2:10? They ran out of time. ???
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Sep 18, 2012, 09:01:29 AMMost scenes that end up on the cutting room floor tend to be 'talky' expositional scenes or sequences... which can be argued develop character more. However, as obvious as it seems, it is a fine art to balance the best flow for a film whilst giving the characters enough time to breath. I think these scenes were removed to quicken the pace of the movie and not to remove character development per se. It's always a trade off.
In a nutshell: they removed all scenes that featured character development. What a pathetic behaviour...
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 18, 2012, 06:02:43 AM
These are unfinished:
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:'(
Quote from: Anarchist86ed on Sep 18, 2012, 05:55:49 PM
The Engineer is a big fan of Daisy Diamond. :laugh:
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Quote
Ridley Scott
...The title sequence for the word 'Prometheus', which I've finally managed to say without litthhping...er,
Prometheus, as you know, was the demi-god who, actually, went against the gods and
was punished in the most barbarous fashion by having his entrails picked out by eagles every evening
and, I think, it was in the following morning that he had new entrails and, er, that evening they were
then re-picked out again. So it was really a metaphor for a being challenging the gods. In a funny kind
of way that's what this sort of about. The platform is about who made us and if they aren't gods: who made
them? So it's discussing that chain of events that, actually, represents of creation.
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
As the title sequence begins:Quote
Ridley Scott
...The title sequence for the word 'Prometheus', which I've finally managed to say without litthhping...er,
Prometheus, as you know, was the demi-god who, actually, went against the gods and
was punished in the most barbarous fashion by having his entrails picked out by eagles every evening
and, I think, it was in the following morning that he had new entrails and, er, that evening they were
then re-picked out again. So it was really a metaphor for a being challenging the gods. In a funny kind
of way that's what this sort of about. The platform is about who made us and if they aren't gods: who made
them? So it's discussing that chain of events that, actually, represents of creation.
Quote from: fiveways on Sep 18, 2012, 06:30:27 PM
Also, between this and the 10 minutes of outtakes that leaked, how many are left?
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 06:32:52 PMQuote from: fiveways on Sep 18, 2012, 06:30:27 PM
Also, between this and the 10 minutes of outtakes that leaked, how many are left?
* ARRIVAL OF THE ENGINEERS [2:31]
* OUR FIRST ALIEN [0:42]
* HOLLOWAY HUNGOVER [1:25]
* FIFIELD ATTACKS [2:01]
* PARADISE [5:05]
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:06:38 PM
The best moment of the last fight:
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...and the best possible moment...
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Quote from: Anarchist86ed on Sep 18, 2012, 05:55:49 PM
The Engineer is a big fan of Daisy Diamond. :laugh:
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Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 18, 2012, 08:16:52 PMQuote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:06:38 PM
The best moment of the last fight:
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...and the best possible moment...
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:O Where did you get these screens or scenes? 8)
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 18, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
Did you all buy the online version or something? How did you guys get to see this stuff?
Quote from: jeffchow on Sep 18, 2012, 08:23:32 PM
rejoice rothman has left the building
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:24:48 PMQuote from: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 18, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
Did you all buy the online version or something? How did you guys get to see this stuff?
Pre-ordered the itunes version. I'd wait for the blue ray honestly, it's pretty lacking in extras.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 08:25:31 PMQuote from: jeffchow on Sep 18, 2012, 08:23:32 PM
rejoice rothman has left the building
What makes you think his replacement will be any better?
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:28:52 PMYou know the guy replacing him has been his partner for the last decade or so, right?
Because Rothman's a huge twat.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 08:31:38 PMQuote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 18, 2012, 08:28:52 PMYou know the guy replacing him has been his partner for the last decade or so, right?
Because Rothman's a huge twat.
Meet the new boss, likely same as the old boss.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 08:25:31 PMi can dream cant i?Quote from: jeffchow on Sep 18, 2012, 08:23:32 PM
rejoice rothman has left the building
What makes you think his replacement will be any better?
Quote from: Snowdog on Sep 18, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
I found the extended fight scene between shaw and the engineer a bit underwelming. And yes i do agree with Ridley when he said it made the engineer look weaker. He made the right call with the theatrical version.
Quote from: Snowdog on Sep 18, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
I found the extended fight scene between shaw and the engineer a bit underwelming. And yes i do agree with Ridley when he said it made the engineer look weaker. He made the right call with the theatrical version.
Quote from: armageddon on Sep 18, 2012, 08:48:34 PM
http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6# (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6#)
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 18, 2012, 10:15:24 PM
Most of these deleted scenes are great. I loved the TC, but an extended cut would be amazing, if it ever happens...
I feel like there's something off in the extended Shaw-Engineer battle, pacing wise- but it's minor stuff. Clearly it's unfinished- some undone wirework. A few cuts or angle changes were needed. But it's a much more tense and complete scene. When the engineer walks in and watches the video, and then sees Shaw and just looks at her... It really works for me.
I hope one day something comes of it.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 18, 2012, 10:23:55 PM
I think my main issues with how the extended version goes are how nonchalantly he enters, and how easily she unleashes the monster. I'd say put a few pacing beats in there.
And I'd prefer the Engineer not to speak, but I liked what Weyland had to say.
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 07:31:51 AMGave her position away huh. So David is still plotting to kill off the entire crew. Fuken evil. :laugh:Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 18, 2012, 07:18:12 AM
The scene of the engineer watching the video transmission; almost standing there in awe... probably gets totally ruined once Shaw axes him in the back.
Why was so much of this cut down and out. I don't see the difference between 2 hours and 2:10? They ran out of time. ???
Actually the Engineer is staring at the video transmission, then David talks to Shaw via radio and consequently gives away her hiding spot. The engineer turns around and sees her, they stare at each other and the fight begins.
The engineer also seems fascinated by the sound Vicker's crystal lamp makes.
Edit: In the audio commentary, Ridley Scott says that the "physical writing of music is a code". Basically says that music is universal which is the reason why he wanted the girl playing the violin on the video transmission.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 18, 2012, 11:33:10 PMOh that's because I've been replying to day old comments and didn't know they were up yet. :laugh:
Why don't you watch the scenes for yourself? :) Link is on the previous page.
Quote from: BANE on Sep 19, 2012, 12:13:50 AM
Where are you people watching them from?
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 02:08:02 AMI agree, such a shame .
I agree with everyone who said all the deleted scenes should be kept in.
They all add something of value to the film.
And the scene where Shaw fights the Engineer was perfectly executed and far better than the version in the theatrical cut. The Engineer doesn't seem weaker. I mean she gets a few hits in with the axe and he still finds the strength to fight. If it was her being hit with the axe, she'd probably be dead. And she doesn't scream, "Diiiiiiiiiiiiieeeee!!!" Everything felt naturally paced. And it was one of very few scenes where there was a nice buildup as opposed to the MTV type editing throughout the film in the theatrical cut.
Can't wait to see the other scenes now.
QuoteI also believe the Engineer possibly understood english.
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 02:35:41 AM
One thing I did notice... you dont see how the Engineers face gets burned in the extended scene, it suddenly appears that way as the Trilobite gets him. Also the shot where he pushes Shaw towards the MedPod room door is missing, with his face burnt, but it's in the theatrical version. I always assumed he got burned from something that happened during the crash, a logical assumption really, but apparently not. Obviously something else is missing, so how do you guys think this fight scene could have played out???
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 19, 2012, 02:52:54 AMActually someone did visit humans after whatever happened 2000 years ago according to their rock pictures. It could have been this same engineer. I mean, after all, all you ever see in the picture is one engineer.QuoteI also believe the Engineer possibly understood english.
Possibly but unlikely. Remember that the engineer was in stasis for 2,000 years. The english language as we know it didn't exist and the engineer only had about 30 seconds to absorb the language they were speaking. More than likely he took in what David said to him in his own language, along with the mannerisms, tones and body language of Prometheus crew and got the gist of it pretty quickly.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 02:56:55 AMQuote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 02:35:41 AM
One thing I did notice... you dont see how the Engineers face gets burned in the extended scene, it suddenly appears that way as the Trilobite gets him. Also the shot where he pushes Shaw towards the MedPod room door is missing, with his face burnt, but it's in the theatrical version. I always assumed he got burned from something that happened during the crash, a logical assumption really, but apparently not. Obviously something else is missing, so how do you guys think this fight scene could have played out???
I'm thinking it was during the crash. It's just that the CGI is unfinished. :'(
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 19, 2012, 03:07:17 AMQuote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 19, 2012, 02:52:54 AMActually someone did visit humans after whatever happened 2000 years ago according to their rock pictures. It could have been this same engineer. I mean, after all, all you ever see in the picture is one engineer.QuoteI also believe the Engineer possibly understood english.
Possibly but unlikely. Remember that the engineer was in stasis for 2,000 years. The english language as we know it didn't exist and the engineer only had about 30 seconds to absorb the language they were speaking. More than likely he took in what David said to him in his own language, along with the mannerisms, tones and body language of Prometheus crew and got the gist of it pretty quickly.
Holy shit, we crucified Space Jesus twice! :laugh:
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 03:08:25 AMQuote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 02:56:55 AMQuote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 02:35:41 AM
One thing I did notice... you dont see how the Engineers face gets burned in the extended scene, it suddenly appears that way as the Trilobite gets him. Also the shot where he pushes Shaw towards the MedPod room door is missing, with his face burnt, but it's in the theatrical version. I always assumed he got burned from something that happened during the crash, a logical assumption really, but apparently not. Obviously something else is missing, so how do you guys think this fight scene could have played out???
I'm thinking it was during the crash. It's just that the CGI is unfinished. :'(
A CGI burn on his FACE...but why... they can do that with make up???
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 03:14:49 AM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand I finally got to see these.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there's all the proof you need that the theatrical cut is a studio-enforced Alien 3 theatrical cut-style hatchet job.
The Janek Fills Vickers In scene is very good. Probably the best written (not that that says much, necessarily) scene in the whole film--and naturally, they cut it. And it's the best single scene for both Charlize and Elba's performances. AND it lays out Janek's suspicions about the site in FAR better fashion than that shitty, hastily shot exposition dump of a reshoot where he randomly busts in on Shaw and says out of nowhere what he thinks is going on.
The Engineer Speaks scene, despite the clumsily on the nose Weyland monologue ("I'M A GOD TOO!!!1!"--subtle, Lindelof), more or less actually f**king works.
And the Shaw vs. the Engineer scene is so much better that the shaved down snippet we got in the film almost seems like a sick joke.
Quote from: Barringer on Sep 19, 2012, 03:13:23 AMQuote from: whiterabbit on Sep 19, 2012, 03:07:17 AMQuote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 19, 2012, 02:52:54 AMActually someone did visit humans after whatever happened 2000 years ago according to their rock pictures. It could have been this same engineer. I mean, after all, all you ever see in the picture is one engineer.QuoteI also believe the Engineer possibly understood english.
Possibly but unlikely. Remember that the engineer was in stasis for 2,000 years. The english language as we know it didn't exist and the engineer only had about 30 seconds to absorb the language they were speaking. More than likely he took in what David said to him in his own language, along with the mannerisms, tones and body language of Prometheus crew and got the gist of it pretty quickly.
Holy shit, we crucified Space Jesus twice! :laugh:
The last engineer was apparently in stasis since the incident 2000 years prior so I don't see how he could have visited Earth after the incident on LV-223. A Hollywood scenario is that the Engineers visiting Earth more recently than 2000 years ago influenced linguistic development! The Engineers already spoke English!
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AliensSpeakingEnglish (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AliensSpeakingEnglish)
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 19, 2012, 03:07:17 AMQuote from: thecaffeinatedone on Sep 19, 2012, 02:52:54 AMActually someone did visit humans after whatever happened 2000 years ago according to their rock pictures. It could have been this same engineer. I mean, after all, all you ever see in the picture is one engineer.QuoteI also believe the Engineer possibly understood english.
Possibly but unlikely. Remember that the engineer was in stasis for 2,000 years. The english language as we know it didn't exist and the engineer only had about 30 seconds to absorb the language they were speaking. More than likely he took in what David said to him in his own language, along with the mannerisms, tones and body language of Prometheus crew and got the gist of it pretty quickly.
Holy shit, we crucified Space Jesus twice! :laugh:
I think the cave paintings were older than 2000 years.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 03:23:08 AM
Soooo...
Where are all the Ridley apologists now?
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Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 03:43:40 AMQuote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 03:23:08 AM
Soooo...
Where are all the Ridley apologists now?
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Yeah, but you know what the ironic thing is.... as much as we all wanted believe in old Riddles, accepting this movie as his version for all it's faults, some of us even believing that maybe what was left on the cutting room floor wouldn't have many any difference, when all the time HOW F***ING RIGHT WE WERE!! This version was just a con to get bums on seats and Mr Scott you have made an ass of yourself trying to convince us otherwise... the truth is out there and I certainly won't be buying this until there is an extended cut.... in my opinion of course! :-)
QuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AMQuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.
Or what?
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 03:52:59 AM
There are still a few more deleted scenes, right?
"Paradise" being one if i remember correctly.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 04:03:49 AMQuote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AMQuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.
Or what?
Or they (Ridley, Fox and co.) can count on losing fans.
And no matter how miniscule that amount of angry fans may be, fans = money. They should be keeping them. Not pushing them away with idiotic decisions.
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 04:08:57 AMNot really. The film barely made its budget back after what were surely exorbitant advertising costs.
....the thing is though, as much as we may feel cheated, the studio got what they wanted by doing what they wanted.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:10:25 AMQuote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 04:08:57 AMNot really. The film barely made its budget back after what were surely exorbitant advertising costs.
....the thing is though, as much as we may feel cheated, the studio got what they wanted by doing what they wanted.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 03:34:33 AM
eh! I enjoyed the theatrical cut, flaws and all..... but after seeing how much better it could have been? Dammit Ridley.
YOU DROPPED THE BALL.
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Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 04:03:49 AMQuote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AMQuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.
Or what?
Or they (Ridley, Fox and co.) can count on losing fans.
And no matter how miniscule that amount of angry fans may be, fans = money. They should be keeping them. Not pushing them away with idiotic decisions.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 03:49:15 AM
The shot where the Engineer and Noomi pause to quietly regard each other before their altercation actually gave me a chill. And the best part of the Engineer Speaks scene? "If she doesn't shut up, shoot her." Immediately makes it clear why the Engineer goes on his killing spree, and after witnessing Shaw being beaten, makes his pause before going after her in the escape module that much more ambiguous and interesting.BUT LOLOLOLOLOLOL, who needs that shit, right?
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Quote from: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 04:39:03 AM$$$$$
Why the f**k, did they even cut that, then. :(
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 04:31:48 AMQuote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 04:03:49 AMQuote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AMQuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.
Or what?
Or they (Ridley, Fox and co.) can count on losing fans.
And no matter how miniscule that amount of angry fans may be, fans = money. They should be keeping them. Not pushing them away with idiotic decisions.
I'm sure they're shitting bricks something chronic.
QuoteAnd no matter how miniscule that amount of angry fans may be, fans = money. They should be keeping them. Not pushing them away with idiotic decisions.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:40:12 AMQuote from: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 04:39:03 AM$$$$$
Why the f**k, did they even cut that, then. :(
Had to get that runtime down to two hours to max out those daily screening numbers.
QuoteThat's your response? K...
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:13 AM
They've got your money already and they'll get it again for the sequel.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 04:03:49 AMQuote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AMQuoteThere better be an extended cut with all these scenes restored.
Or what?
Or they (Ridley, Fox and co.) can count on losing fans.
And no matter how miniscule that amount of angry fans may be, fans = money. They should be keeping them. Not pushing them away with idiotic decisions.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 04:52:33 AM
There's about as much chance of this getting a sequel as there is Predators getting a sequel.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 04:54:03 AMQuote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:13 AM
They've got your money already and they'll get it again for the sequel.
"f**k the fans. We already have their money." - rumored to have been said by Tom Rothman, behind the scenes of Xmen Origins: Wolverine.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 04:56:24 AM
I do think the film that was released in theaters is easily better than any version of Alien 3, as well as AR
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 04:56:24 AMCan you cite where the studio says the sequel has gone into production?
In the meantime, the sequel has been publicly greenlit - Google it - and I am told at least two of the leads signed for two films a long time ago.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:01:47 AM
Your emoticon is a compelling argument I find difficult to deflect, but yes, I never liked 3 and I never will. I love Fincher but the film is just a clusterf**k. Some nice visuals, but eh.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 04:56:24 AM
I don't think the theatrical version was a hack job or eked out. That's the usual kind of self-validating mythology that happens with films online; a narrative is invented with little insight into the players' minds. But we do know Ridley was in the driver's seat the whole time. I do think the choices for the edit, and how they got to those choices, traded a lot of stuff for commercial expediency and the bottom line, and I wish it hadn't had to go there for several scenes. I blame years in the critical wilderness with the AVP films, myself; they had a lot riding on rebooting the franchise properly, and obviously didn't want to take any more chances than they already had on stuff like opting for a Swedish star and a giant blue alien space jockey versus another alien queen and a tough girl with a big gun.
Quote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
People, that fight scene with the engineer and the scientist could not enter at the movie. The explanation is obvious, and would be a total lack of direction.
In one scene ...We saw the alien-human overpowering and bursting the entire crew in less than 15 seconds.
And then there appears this scene with the scientist doing a hard game with him?
The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.
Only to remind.The engineer pulls the neck of David mercilessly and effortlessly. And when the doctor arrives, he scored some brownie points to her. It doesn't make sense to me.
Thereafter the public complains about lack of judgment of the director ...He did it right in my opinion.
Quote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AMUh, he beats the shit out of her. She gets him in the leg with a f**king axe and he still keeps coming, barely phased. Don't drink Ridley's crazy kool-aid, k?
The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:39 AMQuote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
People, that fight scene with the engineer and the scientist could not enter at the movie. The explanation is obvious, and would be a total lack of direction.
In one scene ...We saw the alien-human overpowering and bursting the entire crew in less than 15 seconds.
And then there appears this scene with the scientist doing a hard game with him?
The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.
Only to remind.The engineer pulls the neck of David mercilessly and effortlessly. And when the doctor arrives, he scored some brownie points to her. It doesn't make sense to me.
Thereafter the public complains about lack of judgment of the director ...He did it right in my opinion.
You've just missed a very important part of both scenes then.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:02:47 AM
Can you cite where the studio says the sequel has gone into production?
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:35 AMThen nothing has been greenlit.
You and I both know the sequel has not gone into production yet.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:35 AMAgain, link with verifiable source?
We also know, however, that Fox has confirmed that they have greenlit a sequel and are seeking new writers and that it's on track for '14 or '15.
QuoteThe studio's big summer bet was Ridley Scott's Prometheus, June's sort-of Alien prequel. The $130 million-budgeted film has grossed a solid but not spectacular $303 million globally, putting it right on the franchise bubble. (It should top out north of $360 million.) Fox confirms to THR that Scott and the studio actively are pushing ahead with a follow-up (stars Michael Fassbender and Noomi Rapace are signed) and are talking to new writers because Prometheus co-scribe Damon Lindelof might not be available. "Ridley is incredibly excited about the movie, but we have to get it right. We can't rush it," says Fox president of production Emma Watts, who also has overseen the successful reboots of the X-Men and Planet of the Apes franchises. A Prometheus sequel would be released in 2014 or 2015.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:39 AMQuote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
People, that fight scene with the engineer and the scientist could not enter at the movie. The explanation is obvious, and would be a total lack of direction.
In one scene ...We saw the alien-human overpowering and bursting the entire crew in less than 15 seconds.
And then there appears this scene with the scientist doing a hard game with him?
The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.
Only to remind.The engineer pulls the neck of David mercilessly and effortlessly. And when the doctor arrives, he scored some brownie points to her. It doesn't make sense to me.
Thereafter the public complains about lack of judgment of the director ...He did it right in my opinion.
You've just missed a very important part of both scenes then.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:22:49 AM
I'm pretty sure this piece from the Hollywood Reporter has been on the site a number of times before.
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:28:04 AMThey're not gonna get it right. Development hell, ahoy.
It would seem Prometheus 2 has been greenlit, Ive seen this quote banded around several websites now...
"Ridley is incredibly excited about the movie, but we have to get it right. We can't rush it," says Fox president of production Emma Watts
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:27:35 AMWhat do you have against yan-yan, you bastard?
So pocky or rubles then?
Quote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:26:10 AMQuote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:39 AMQuote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
People, that fight scene with the engineer and the scientist could not enter at the movie. The explanation is obvious, and would be a total lack of direction.
In one scene ...We saw the alien-human overpowering and bursting the entire crew in less than 15 seconds.
And then there appears this scene with the scientist doing a hard game with him?
The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.
Only to remind.The engineer pulls the neck of David mercilessly and effortlessly. And when the doctor arrives, he scored some brownie points to her. It doesn't make sense to me.
Thereafter the public complains about lack of judgment of the director ...He did it right in my opinion.
You've just missed a very important part of both scenes then.
Not it all.
Only I will not be defending these deleted scenes as if they were saving the gaps in the film.
I Like the movie with their holes xD
It's what I chose to believe!! ^^
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:13 AM
Also, Prometheus was the hopeful franchise re-starter. If it had bombed, they would not be pursuing the follow-up. It did what it was asked to do commercially, which is why Watts has confirmed they're in active development. Same thing happened with Rise of the Planet of the Apes, although that was a much more impressive blow-out with a lower budget and lower-profile cast - it was a sleeper hit, not expected to be a big summer movie. The result, however, was the same; it revived that dying franchise. Which is why they are mentioned side by side in the same article.
I know how you can still win this debate, Cvalda - ask me for its naturalized birth certificate and three forms of government ID.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:20 AMYou keep tellin' yourself that. ;) For something that only had a $40 million budget and made roughly $137 worldwide, tripling it's budget (which Prometheus failed to do), no one at Fox seems to care much.
eh. Robert Rodriguez has a funny way of going about producing films due to the insane number of projects he has in his hands.. the Sin City sequel is being filmed this year... and the original came out in 2005... we'll inevitably see another Predator film.... it'll just take a few more years. :P
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:36:54 AMQuote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:20 AMYou keep tellin' yourself that. ;)
eh. Robert Rodriguez has a funny way of going about producing films due to the insane number of projects he has in his hands.. the Sin City sequel is being filmed this year... and the original came out in 2005... we'll inevitably see another Predator film.... it'll just take a few more years. :P
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:13 AM
Also, Prometheus was the hopeful franchise re-starter. If it had bombed, they would not be pursuing the follow-up. It did what it was asked to do commercially, which is why Watts has confirmed they're in active development. Same thing happened with Rise of the Planet of the Apes, although that was a much more impressive blow-out with a lower budget and lower-profile cast - it was a sleeper hit, not expected to be a big summer movie. The result, however, was the same; it revived that dying franchise. Which is why they are mentioned side by side in the same article.
I know how you can still win this debate, Cvalda - ask me for its naturalized birth certificate and three forms of government ID.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:41:00 AMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k#)
I'm gonna save this comment.. and then i'll bring it out when the inevitable sequel happens.
:laugh:
It might take 10 years, but it will happen damnit! ;)
lulz
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:36:54 AMQuote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:20 AMYou keep tellin' yourself that. ;) For something that only had a $40 million budget and made roughly $137 worldwide, tripling it's budget (which Prometheus failed to do), no one at Fox seems to care much.
eh. Robert Rodriguez has a funny way of going about producing films due to the insane number of projects he has in his hands.. the Sin City sequel is being filmed this year... and the original came out in 2005... we'll inevitably see another Predator film.... it'll just take a few more years. :P
But apparently a mega-expensive film with a $200 million plus budget w/advertising that doesn't even have that level of profit is apparently seriously being fast-tracked for another $200 million plus budget sequel that would maybe lose money.
Keep dreaming, boys.
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:46:55 AMMaybe you're right, this franchise is clearly one of his top priorities--I mean, it only took him 33 years to return to it! ;D
I see your argument Cvalda but have to disagree, I think FOX will fast-track Prometheus not just because it made it's money back, but because they know they can get Scott to do it.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:51:49 AM
..and he's got a Blade Runner sequel in the works, too.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:32:27 AMQuote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:26:10 AMQuote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:39 AMQuote from: Marlowe on Sep 19, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
People, that fight scene with the engineer and the scientist could not enter at the movie. The explanation is obvious, and would be a total lack of direction.
In one scene ...We saw the alien-human overpowering and bursting the entire crew in less than 15 seconds.
And then there appears this scene with the scientist doing a hard game with him?
The scene was well done? Yes.
But it is not credible for the context of the story.
Only to remind.The engineer pulls the neck of David mercilessly and effortlessly. And when the doctor arrives, he scored some brownie points to her. It doesn't make sense to me.
Thereafter the public complains about lack of judgment of the director ...He did it right in my opinion.
You've just missed a very important part of both scenes then.
Not it all.
Only I will not be defending these deleted scenes as if they were saving the gaps in the film.
I Like the movie with their holes xD
It's what I chose to believe!! ^^
Watch the deleted scenes again.
The Engineer only attacks after seeing how Shaw is treated. He had the opportunity to kill Shaw right then and there but doesn't. His behaviour when he steps into the lifeboat doesn't exactly seem like the behaviour of somebody on the hunt and ready to kill. There's an ambiguity you missed.
Quote from: First Blood on Sep 19, 2012, 05:52:25 AM....Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:51:49 AM
..and he's got a Blade Runner sequel in the works, too.
...and let's hope that doesn't turn out to be a disaster.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 05:39:16 AM
I'm not suggesting that; that's what it was. That was the tack they took with it from the day it was first announced, when they first tried to talk to Scott and Cameron years ago, then went to Carl Rinsch, and so on. That was their moonshot to try and bring the franchise out of the AVP doldrums. It ballooned into quite a different beast over time, and obviously YMMV on the film's quality, but they did clear the finish line for what they were aiming to do and are, according to Fox, proceeding apace.
It helps, I think, that Prometheus revealed itself to be this sweeping cosmic macro-saga to which the Alien franchise is actually kind of a side story. That both delineates the two stories and also allows anyone to take the future films anywhere, without having to necessarily get bogged down in AVP or whatever again. I like the shift in focus because it is something new. I think the franchise died for awhile because a lot of people had no idea how to make another movie either without Ripley or without the same premise of 'alien eats people in space.' They were trading mostly on the tropes of the first two films.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:55:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k#)
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 19, 2012, 06:10:38 AM
Yes, that's what I really meant. Not a literal story reboot as in rebooting from 1979, but rebooting the direction of the franchise overall, commercially, for successful films in the future. That was Fox's intent when they went back to Ridley Scott.
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 06:22:35 AM
Who's the "original engineer"? The dude that dissolves at the start?
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 06:33:40 AM
Oh, the Space Jockey.
Haven't heard the rumour until now. And since I'm sure I read something from Riddles saying that sequels would move further away from Alien, I don't see that they have to or need to connect to Alien. One of the questions Riddles was interested in was 'where did the Jockey come from?'. If Shaw finds out in a Prometheus sequel - question answered.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 19, 2012, 03:34:12 PMThat's because his scene with Shaw was likely a crappy reshoot designed to replace this superior scene when they cut it.
Seriously, though, that scene was pretty good. You could cut his scene with Shaw, ;eave this in, and the point still gets across.
Quote from: nieves50 on Sep 19, 2012, 04:37:16 PMThey are not in the movie. They are extras.
Are these scenes IN the itunes movie or just "extras"?......If they are "extras", I'll refrain from watching them until they are added to the movie either on BRay or extended cut...
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???
Quote from: Promethée on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
So I just watched the original and compared with the extended versions (the weyland dialogue & the final fight)
To me the Theatrical cut is ruined, (I wasn't happy with it anyway) it feels like a joke, seriously the last scene is like an insult,
-David: "he's coming"
-E.Shaw: "Who's coming" (stupid question in both versions)
-computer: bip bip
-Engineer: Aaaaarrrrrr !!!!
-E.S: "Diiiieeee!!" pushes a buton hentai monster grabs engineer
Total 25 seconds long
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:11 PMQuote from: Promethée on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
So I just watched the original and compared with the extended versions (the weyland dialogue & the final fight)
To me the Theatrical cut is ruined, (I wasn't happy with it anyway) it feels like a joke, seriously the last scene is like an insult,
-David: "he's coming"
-E.Shaw: "Who's coming" (stupid question in both versions)
-computer: bip bip
-Engineer: Aaaaarrrrrr !!!!
-E.S: "Diiiieeee!!" pushes a buton hentai monster grabs engineer
Total 25 seconds long
Yup. And the Ridley apologists will continue to defend his theatrical cut even with all these deleted scenes that would have added something to the film. :laugh:
Quote from: Virgil on Sep 19, 2012, 05:22:56 PMQuote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:11 PMQuote from: Promethée on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
So I just watched the original and compared with the extended versions (the weyland dialogue & the final fight)
To me the Theatrical cut is ruined, (I wasn't happy with it anyway) it feels like a joke, seriously the last scene is like an insult,
-David: "he's coming"
-E.Shaw: "Who's coming" (stupid question in both versions)
-computer: bip bip
-Engineer: Aaaaarrrrrr !!!!
-E.S: "Diiiieeee!!" pushes a buton hentai monster grabs engineer
Total 25 seconds long
Yup. And the Ridley apologists will continue to defend his theatrical cut even with all these deleted scenes that would have added something to the film. :laugh:
Or they'll defend it simply because they enjoyed it more.
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:27:41 PMQuote from: Virgil on Sep 19, 2012, 05:22:56 PMQuote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 19, 2012, 05:16:11 PMQuote from: Promethée on Sep 19, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
So I just watched the original and compared with the extended versions (the weyland dialogue & the final fight)
To me the Theatrical cut is ruined, (I wasn't happy with it anyway) it feels like a joke, seriously the last scene is like an insult,
-David: "he's coming"
-E.Shaw: "Who's coming" (stupid question in both versions)
-computer: bip bip
-Engineer: Aaaaarrrrrr !!!!
-E.S: "Diiiieeee!!" pushes a buton hentai monster grabs engineer
Total 25 seconds long
Yup. And the Ridley apologists will continue to defend his theatrical cut even with all these deleted scenes that would have added something to the film. :laugh:
Or they'll defend it simply because they enjoyed it more.
Or they'll defend it because it did exactly what it said on the tin.... and who's going to argue against that except the purists. :P
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:16 PM
So far I can see why most of the scenes were cut/trimmed. The saddest scene to have lost so far was probably Janek fills Vickers in. LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than the scene they replaced it with. I can see why they had to ditch it. For pacing reasons. But it's the equivalent of having to lose an arm in order to escape death through a narrow passage. You miss the arm. You really could have used that arm ... "if only."
I really liked the additional Engineer stuff. But Ridley already explained why that was cut. You don't have to agree with him. But given a glimpse into his thought process you can see why he trimmed out as much as he did.
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:16 PM"Dramatically, I'm about putting bums on seats. For me to separate my idea of commerce from art—I'd be a fool. You can't do that. I wouldn't be allowed to do the films I do. So I'm very user friendly as far as the studios are concerned. To a certain extent, I'm a businessman. I'm aware that's what I have to do. It's my job. To say, "Screw the audience." You can't do that. "Am I communicating?" is the question. Am I communicating? Because if I'm not, I need to address it."
I really liked the additional Engineer stuff. But Ridley already explained why that was cut. You don't have to agree with him. But given a glimpse into his thought process you can see why he trimmed out as much as he did.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:37:06 PMQuote from: Bat Chain Puller on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:16 PM"Dramatically, I'm about putting bums on seats. For me to separate my idea of commerce from art—I'd be a fool. You can't do that. I wouldn't be allowed to do the films I do. So I'm very user friendly as far as the studios are concerned. To a certain extent, I'm a businessman. I'm aware that's what I have to do. It's my job. To say, "Screw the audience." You can't do that. "Am I communicating?" is the question. Am I communicating? Because if I'm not, I need to address it."
I really liked the additional Engineer stuff. But Ridley already explained why that was cut. You don't have to agree with him. But given a glimpse into his thought process you can see why he trimmed out as much as he did.
His thought process = $$$$$$$$$.
It's amusing that he says he doesn't want to screw the audience, and that's just what he did.
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:36:33 PM
I dunno about that, the editing is so bad on this film the pacing is all over the place anyway, the sense of urgency ruined by the fact you can just tell some thing's are missing.
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:29 PMQuote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???
http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6 (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6)
.....there ya go buddy!
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 19, 2012, 08:05:10 PMQuote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:29 PMQuote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???
http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6 (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6)
.....there ya go buddy!
Milburn; the worst scientist in the universe.
Janek telling that story is silly as hell.
The Jock talking scene isnt that different than what we see in theaters. The flip out is pretty much random but we get a little more on Weyland which i think is good. Either scene is essentially fine.
And the last scene was goofy. Sure, she gives herself a drug boost but still..... And it looks like the burns in this version came from the big body huger.
Quote from: szkoki on Sep 19, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
the "fight" with the body hugger is cgi the scenes before are not, its an unfinished work simply....and its a good scene with Janek and Vickers, just shows that she is a human not a robot...but oh well ambigiuty FTW!
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 19, 2012, 08:34:14 PMQuote from: szkoki on Sep 19, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
the "fight" with the body hugger is cgi the scenes before are not, its an unfinished work simply....and its a good scene with Janek and Vickers, just shows that she is a human not a robot...but oh well ambigiuty FTW!
Didnt you guys hear the sound of something burning? the, "sssssssssst."
To me it looks like the hugger is disabling his prey.
BTW, how does it show that she is human? Cause she burned her hand or because she decided to drink?
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 19, 2012, 08:05:10 PMOk, so you're just destined to hate it.Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:29 PMQuote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???
http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6 (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6)
.....there ya go buddy!
Milburn; the worst scientist in the universe.
Janek telling that story is silly as hell.
The Jock talking scene isnt that different than what we see in theaters. The flip out is pretty much random but we get a little more on Weyland which i think is good. Either scene is essentially fine.
And the last scene was goofy. Sure, she gives herself a drug boost but still..... And it looks like the burns in this version came from the big body huger.
Edit- Now that i think about it the Janek story might be stupid because it basically tells the audience what essentially might have happened in this planet with the character of Janek going as far as ACTUALLY saying that but it does give more info on why he randomly thought this place was a military place building WMDs later on.
It both helps and hurts at the same time.
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:29 PMCheers Roary. :-)Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???
http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6 (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6)
.....there ya go buddy!
Quote from: BANE on Sep 19, 2012, 09:27:41 PMQuote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 19, 2012, 08:05:10 PMOk, so you're just destined to hate it.Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 19, 2012, 05:10:29 PMQuote from: Darth Vile on Sep 19, 2012, 04:51:54 PM
Can someone send me a link to the deleted scenes???
http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6 (http://www.sockshare.com/file/BBCA9A4FC6B645A6)
.....there ya go buddy!
Milburn; the worst scientist in the universe.
Janek telling that story is silly as hell.
The Jock talking scene isnt that different than what we see in theaters. The flip out is pretty much random but we get a little more on Weyland which i think is good. Either scene is essentially fine.
And the last scene was goofy. Sure, she gives herself a drug boost but still..... And it looks like the burns in this version came from the big body huger.
Edit- Now that i think about it the Janek story might be stupid because it basically tells the audience what essentially might have happened in this planet with the character of Janek going as far as ACTUALLY saying that but it does give more info on why he randomly thought this place was a military place building WMDs later on.
It both helps and hurts at the same time.
Thanks.
Goodbye.
QuoteWow. That last scene was great, and it is pretty obvious that was taken out to secure a PG-13. A fire axe as a weapon is not something commonly scene in a PG-13 movie.
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:11:51 PMQuoteWow. That last scene was great, and it is pretty obvious that was taken out to secure a PG-13. A fire axe as a weapon is not something commonly scene in a PG-13 movie.
Prometheus is R.
Quote from: fiveways on Sep 19, 2012, 11:43:46 PMQuote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:11:51 PMQuoteWow. That last scene was great, and it is pretty obvious that was taken out to secure a PG-13. A fire axe as a weapon is not something commonly scene in a PG-13 movie.
Prometheus is R.
Yes, and the theatre edit was a failed attempt to get a PG-13 rating. if they took out the medipod scene it would have worked too.
Oh, and it was rated AA here, so PG-14. Not "R". So neither of us are technically right.
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:50:46 PMQuote from: fiveways on Sep 19, 2012, 11:43:46 PMQuote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:11:51 PMQuoteWow. That last scene was great, and it is pretty obvious that was taken out to secure a PG-13. A fire axe as a weapon is not something commonly scene in a PG-13 movie.
Prometheus is R.
Yes, and the theatre edit was a failed attempt to get a PG-13 rating. if they took out the medipod scene it would have worked too.
Oh, and it was rated AA here, so PG-14. Not "R". So neither of us are technically right.
No, technically I'm right.
Quote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:50:46 PMQuote from: fiveways on Sep 19, 2012, 11:43:46 PMQuote from: SM on Sep 19, 2012, 11:11:51 PMQuoteWow. That last scene was great, and it is pretty obvious that was taken out to secure a PG-13. A fire axe as a weapon is not something commonly scene in a PG-13 movie.
Prometheus is R.
Yes, and the theatre edit was a failed attempt to get a PG-13 rating. if they took out the medipod scene it would have worked too.
Oh, and it was rated AA here, so PG-14. Not "R". So neither of us are technically right.
No, technically I'm right.
Quotewasn't R in canada. From my geography you are not right either.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 20, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
'Paradise' Deleted Scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
(Copy and paste link into address bar if the video won't show up)
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 20, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
'Paradise' Deleted Scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
(Copy and paste link into address bar if the video won't show up)
Quote from: RoaryUK on Sep 20, 2012, 03:00:26 AMTry harder.Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 20, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
'Paradise' Deleted Scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
(Copy and paste link into address bar if the video won't show up)
All I'm seeing here is Rick Gastly!!! >:(
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 20, 2012, 03:02:44 AM(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.chzbgr.com%2Fcompletestore%2F2011%2F5%2F8%2F578c116f-6720-44f3-abfb-0d1aa34c721d.jpg&hash=4e71e9ea17d7e42163d3aaa91e0bd55adae6ffa0)
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Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 20, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
'Paradise' Deleted Scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
(Copy and paste link into address bar if the video won't show up)
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 20, 2012, 08:28:04 AMOh god, my sides! :laugh:
Why wasn't that the transmission? Rick Ashley could have been the start of the dancing engineers!
Oh man now someone needs to make that. Dancing Engineers. The internet can never be complete without that.
http://i45.tinypic.com/2ah8i1x.jpg
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 20, 2012, 08:28:04 AMhttp://i45.tinypic.com/2ah8i1x.jpg:laugh:
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 20, 2012, 01:07:11 PMThanks,
Deleted scenes here http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/59928/check-out-nearly-15-minutes-deleted-prometheus-footage-while-you-still-can (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/59928/check-out-nearly-15-minutes-deleted-prometheus-footage-while-you-still-can)
I think the two longest scenes should have been icluded. I love how quiet they are.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 20, 2012, 01:07:11 PMThanks for that.
Deleted scenes here http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/59928/check-out-nearly-15-minutes-deleted-prometheus-footage-while-you-still-can (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/59928/check-out-nearly-15-minutes-deleted-prometheus-footage-while-you-still-can)
I think the two longest scenes should have been icluded. I love how quiet they are.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 06:02:52 PMI like the build up too... The problem I think is that what we get in the deleted scene doesn't really make the engineers seem more scary or more enigmatic (IMHO). The fact that the chase/fight is longer makes the engineer seem more sensless/bruitish IMHO, because logic dictates that if this is a highly evolved creature he'd have thought more about what he was doing - rather than just mindlessly chasing Shaw all over the ship. If it was a xeno then fine... but this is a 'God'.
I think that had that scene alone been part of the finished film, it would have had a better reaction overall. The main complain I see is "The climax is rushed." In theaters I was fine with this, but our opinions of movies are always heavily influenced by the ending, and this ending is simply stronger. The Engineer sees the signal-video they've been sending. Payoff. He seems fascinated by the ship's design, eg. the chandelier. More payoff- the creator seeing the results of his creation. And finally you have Shaw staring down God, the thing she cares about most.
The fight itself, eh, you can keep that short. It's the buildup I wish had stayed in.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
That's why the build-up works so well- he walks in calmly, surveys his surroundings, actually seems to be interested in what he sees, and when he sees her, you can tell he's not lashing out because Grrrr Monster Argh- there's clearly something going on in his mind.
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 20, 2012, 09:32:17 PMQuote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
That's why the build-up works so well- he walks in calmly, surveys his surroundings, actually seems to be interested in what he sees, and when he sees her, you can tell he's not lashing out because Grrrr Monster Argh- there's clearly something going on in his mind.
I can't see that... I just see more of the giant carrot man from The Thing From Another World and or Boris Karloff's monster.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 20, 2012, 05:02:00 PM
Ridley Scott chose the action way out as opposed to a steady and quiet tone, which would have served the audience better.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 21, 2012, 12:09:56 AM
First BANE agrees with me.
Now we agree with Bethesda.
The end is nigh.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
That's why the build-up works so well- he walks in calmly, surveys his surroundings, actually seems to be interested in what he sees, and when he sees her, you can tell he's not lashing out because Grrrr Monster Argh- there's clearly something going on in his mind.
Quote from: RaisingCane on Sep 21, 2012, 02:14:39 AM
Hang on. So LV-233 and LV-426 are both in the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system?
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Quote from: RaisingCane on Sep 21, 2012, 02:14:39 AM
Hang on. So LV-233 and LV-426 are both in the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system?
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Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
That's why the build-up works so well- he walks in calmly, surveys his surroundings, actually seems to be interested in what he sees, and when he sees her, you can tell he's not lashing out because Grrrr Monster Argh- there's clearly something going on in his mind.
QuoteOr maybe they did and we just don't know it.
Quote from: SM on Sep 21, 2012, 03:12:45 AM
I guess Z2R moved about 4 light years further away, and the gas giant gained another moon (and on that moon was the Derelict) in the intervening 30 years.
And WY and the ECA chose a much more difficult planet to terraform...
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 21, 2012, 06:07:29 AM
If engineers are supposed to be gods... what's the problem with creating a moon or two from scratch?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 20, 2012, 10:08:05 PMSame with The Thing From Another World and the Predator. Sure a sentient being, but they hardly come across as super intelectuals capable of kick-starting 'life as we know it'. Perhaps they are not supposed to be all powerful/intelectual... but I thought that was one of the weaker elements of the movie. I don't think this is particularly helpded by the extended version as it makes the engineers behaviour seem more irrational and less inteligent.Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 20, 2012, 09:32:17 PMAnd in the first two Karloff Frankenstein films, there was something going on his mind.Quote from: Alienseseses on Sep 20, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
That's why the build-up works so well- he walks in calmly, surveys his surroundings, actually seems to be interested in what he sees, and when he sees her, you can tell he's not lashing out because Grrrr Monster Argh- there's clearly something going on in his mind.
I can't see that... I just see more of the giant carrot man from The Thing From Another World and or Boris Karloff's monster.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 21, 2012, 09:11:23 AMYep - I kind of agree. I think it's ultimately a difficult premise to get right and to make work. You want to portray these 'God' like creatures who have the power to create or destroy in an instant, they have to make their moral code ambiguous and are the fulcrum of the movie... However, they don't actually get that much screen time. The concept/notion of the engineer race is more scary than the reality on screen. Very much like the xeno, the more culture/context you give them, the less scary they become... IMHO.
From the deleted scenes and the finished movie I'm left with the impression that they never knew quite what it was they wanted out of the Engineers as actual characters in the film. Probably would've been better off staying dead.
Quote from: SM on Sep 21, 2012, 06:58:30 AMBut they'll probably not be on the DVD. :'(
DVD will be out soon enough.
Quote from: LarsVader on Sep 21, 2012, 11:38:50 AMQuote from: SM on Sep 21, 2012, 06:58:30 AMBut they'll probably not be on the DVD. :'(
DVD will be out soon enough.
Quote from: fiveways on Sep 21, 2012, 03:56:17 AM
Since he was ordered to wipe out humanity 2000 years ago maybe that lash out was in fear. Fear that the children might be almost on par technologically with his own race. He sees what we are capable of, so maybe he is starting to imagine the weapons we have developed over the last 2000 years.
Maybe that evolution was what he was sent to earth to purposely disrupt. Seeing his failure the backlash is in pure rage.
Quote from: 180924609 on Sep 21, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Deleted scenes that NEED re-including
QuoteWhy the hell did Ridley remove the Engineer vs Shaw scene?
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 19, 2012, 05:36:54 AMQuote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2012, 05:31:20 AMYou keep tellin' yourself that. ;) For something that only had a $40 million budget and made roughly $137 worldwide, tripling it's budget (which Prometheus failed to do), no one at Fox seems to care much.
eh. Robert Rodriguez has a funny way of going about producing films due to the insane number of projects he has in his hands.. the Sin City sequel is being filmed this year... and the original came out in 2005... we'll inevitably see another Predator film.... it'll just take a few more years. :P
But apparently a mega-expensive film with a $200 million plus budget w/advertising that doesn't even have that level of profit is apparently seriously being fast-tracked for another $200 million plus budget sequel that would maybe lose money.
Keep dreaming, boys.
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 23, 2012, 03:31:25 AM
The Damon Lindelof/Jon Spaihts audio commentary has been released online attached to a Russian iTunes version of the film. Google it or PM.
They talk about a lot of stuff from the early scripts. They mention a "Paradise" scene too. A deleted scene where Shaw asks David what it is that the Engineer said to him during their conversation (it seems like there were 2 script pages worth of Engineer/David dialogue). David tells her that the Engineer told him that they were not from there [LV-223] but "Paradise". This comment is made by Lindelof towards the end of the film when David contacts Shaw after having fought the Engineer.
Quote from: zuzuki on Sep 23, 2012, 07:54:11 AM
I don't really understand what was Ridley thinking when he butchered this movie.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 23, 2012, 12:56:01 PM
Honestly, everything I've seen, so far, just seems relatively trivial. There's nothing which completely changes a scene's interpretation or anything like that.
Quote from: zuzuki on Sep 23, 2012, 07:54:11 AM
Now the question is what is the ''paradise'' scene from the extras. Did they really shot the engineer home world?
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 23, 2012, 12:22:04 PMQuote from: ikarop on Sep 23, 2012, 03:31:25 AM
The Damon Lindelof/Jon Spaihts audio commentary has been released online attached to a Russian iTunes version of the film. Google it or PM.
They talk about a lot of stuff from the early scripts. They mention a "Paradise" scene too. A deleted scene where Shaw asks David what it is that the Engineer said to him during their conversation (it seems like there were 2 script pages worth of Engineer/David dialogue). David tells her that the Engineer told him that they were not from there [LV-223] but "Paradise". This comment is made by Lindelof towards the end of the film when David contacts Shaw after having fought the Engineer.
Worth looking for?
Quote from: gigantitan on Sep 24, 2012, 02:23:34 PMhttp://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807 (http://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807)
where can i see the deleted scenes? When i saw that somebody posted, FOX had already deleted it
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 24, 2012, 03:24:48 PMthanks dude 8)Quote from: gigantitan on Sep 24, 2012, 02:23:34 PMhttp://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807 (http://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807)
where can i see the deleted scenes? When i saw that somebody posted, FOX had already deleted it
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 24, 2012, 03:24:48 PMhttp://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807 (http://www.abandomoviez.net/noticia.php?film=14807)Thanks, I had not seen those before. The scene with Vickers and Janek was nice. I wish they would have kept that in the movie.
Quote from: Laufey on Sep 25, 2012, 12:24:06 PMThe scene with Vickers and Janek was nice. I wish they would have kept that in the movie.I don't. I preferred to think Janek screwed her 8)
Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 19, 2012, 07:22:14 AM
Don't like the Engineer talking, I think it's better if he's silent.
I'm still of the opinion that the Engineer and the Space Jockey in 'Alien' are actually completely different races - while the Engineers made us, perhaps the Space Jockeys made them, but not in their own image, and the Engineers are merely mimicking their creators' technology while creating in their own image.
This is making me want to wait for an "extended cut" blu-ray.
Quote from: zakzak on Sep 26, 2012, 01:06:43 PMQuote from: Xenomrph on Sep 19, 2012, 07:22:14 AM
Don't like the Engineer talking, I think it's better if he's silent.
I'm still of the opinion that the Engineer and the Space Jockey in 'Alien' are actually completely different races - while the Engineers made us, perhaps the Space Jockeys made them, but not in their own image, and the Engineers are merely mimicking their creators' technology while creating in their own image.
This is making me want to wait for an "extended cut" blu-ray.
I am on the side of the theory that the Engineers and the Elephantine Being are 2 separate races. Looking at the way the Engineer fashion the helmet to appear as the Elephantine Race points to 2 possibilities: 1) They stole/adopted./appropriated technology from the Jockeys 2) The Jockeys are the Engineer's God/Higher Power. The statues in front of the pilot room, the helmet are display of cult-like respect.
Quote from: zakzak on Sep 26, 2012, 01:06:43 PMI am on the side of the theory that the Engineers and the Elephantine Being are 2 separate races. Looking at the way the Engineer fashion the helmet to appear as the Elephantine Race points to 2 possibilities: 1) They stole/adopted./appropriated technology from the Jockeys 2) The Jockeys are the Engineer's God/Higher Power. The statues in front of the pilot room, the helmet are display of cult-like respect.An entirely baseless and pointless "theory".