Fred Dekker talks working on The Predator in a new interview with Moxie Sozo. Dekker isn’t able to give any massive updates on The Predator, re-iterating some of the points he’s previously spoken about.
Dekker was able to talk a little about how he’s found working on The Predator. When asked what it was like working within an existing franchise Dekker said:
“It's easier in the sense that you don't have to start with a blank page. The genre, the tone, and a lot of the specifics of the mythology are already established, so to a degree you're free to paint a new picture with the existing colors. The downside is, sequels, reboots and remakes have historically had a tough go of it, creatively—and the new, rabid internet fan base makes it even harder.
The hardcore fans have their Shurikens sharpened (that's a Predator weapon, by the way), just waiting for you to fail. So it's a double-edge Shuriken: You want to do something new and fresh with the concept, but not alienate the core fan base who have a pre-set idea of what they want. It's a tricky tightrope walk, for sure.
Ultimately, however, the worst thing for the creative process is a fear of failure, so we're trying not to second-guess ourselves and go with our gut instincts. We're making the Predator movie we want to see.”
Fred Dekker also spoke a little about his ongoing involvement with the writing process, saying that he’d been working closely alongside Shane Black to ensure the script was specific to the casting and the shooting locations:
“I've been traveling to and from Vancouver to tailor the script to cast, locations, and budget requirements. So yes, it's a fluid process.
Shane is really great about keeping me close as a sounding board, but at the same time I'm not the director, so if there are huge mistakes in the movie, I can always just blame him.”
And Dekker rounded off the The Predator part of conversation with this tidbit: “It has healthy doses of the trademark Shane Black wise-ass dialogue, foul language, and breathless action.”
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Quote from: Infected on Jan 24, 2017, 08:52:56 PM
Thats good, follow your gut.
As i been a long time guest on this site, i see that there are many different views of people on the movies,
its almost impossible to please them all.
One likes AVP one like Alien3 one dislikes Alien3 some hate P2 some adore P2 but all are fans, i think this franchise is hard to make right now, so give it all you got, or dont go.
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jan 24, 2017, 08:53:06 PM
Sorry about the post [emoji851]
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 24, 2017, 09:20:28 PM
Will the site do an interview with Fred Dekker down the road? I think that would be fun.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 24, 2017, 08:55:34 PMIm now mostly curious on what Black is gonna bring us, after all he played a part in the original one, as when i watch the making off Predator, you can easily say the actors were a little like the dirty dozen, each of them with there own character and personality,Quote from: Infected on Jan 24, 2017, 08:52:56 PM
Thats good, follow your gut.
As i been a long time guest on this site, i see that there are many different views of people on the movies,
its almost impossible to please them all.
One likes AVP one like Alien3 one dislikes Alien3 some hate P2 some adore P2 but all are fans, i think this franchise is hard to make right now, so give it all you got, or dont go.
Exactly. It's impossible to please everyone and to be aware of that and just go with what you want to make is the best way. I really hope this mean we aren't getting any reused dialogue as fan winking. lol Personally I'm loving everything I'm hearing about this film. I have real confidence in Black and Dekker.Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jan 24, 2017, 08:53:06 PM
Sorry about the post [emoji851]
It's no worries. :)
Quote from: Kurai on Jan 24, 2017, 09:32:31 PMBesides the disc in P2 i can only think of the AVP shuriken.
I don't think I've ever seen a Predator use a shuriken in the films, that's a ninja weapon rather than an alien hunter weapon. From that little bit I think we can hope to see quite a bit of of Japanese inspired Predator weaponry and styling in the movie.
Has the Naginata ever been used by a Predator outside the expanded universe? I can't remember... Either way, I think it's a nice shift considering the Predators in "Predators" had their roots in European hunting styles.
Quote from: Kurai on Jan 24, 2017, 09:32:31 PMThe smart disc and AvP throwing stars were both referred to as shurikens by fans in the past.
I don't think I've ever seen a Predator use a shuriken in the films, that's a ninja weapon rather than an alien hunter weapon. From that little bit I think we can hope to see quite a bit of of Japanese inspired Predator weaponry and styling in the movie.
Quote from: Kurai on Jan 24, 2017, 09:32:31 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a Predator use a shuriken in the films, that's a ninja weapon rather than an alien hunter weapon. From that little bit I think we can hope to see quite a bit of of Japanese inspired Predator weaponry and styling in the movie.
Quote from: D88M on Jan 25, 2017, 01:37:24 AM
he complaints about the fans and then he says "The hardcore fans have their Shurikens sharpened (that's a Predator weapon, by the way)" which is BS because the Shurikens appear only on AVP and therefore they are not canon and also they are stupid lol
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 25, 2017, 02:41:55 AM
And this is what Fred is talking about. ::)
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 25, 2017, 02:41:55 AMQuote from: D88M on Jan 25, 2017, 01:37:24 AM
he complaints about the fans and then he says "The hardcore fans have their Shurikens sharpened (that's a Predator weapon, by the way)" which is BS because the Shurikens appear only on AVP and therefore they are not canon and also they are stupid lol
And this is what Fred is talking about. ::)
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 25, 2017, 01:48:48 AM
The shurikens were nice additions to the Predator arsenal. But I'd like to see a return of the traditional disc.
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Jan 27, 2017, 12:15:32 AMSorry, but I refuse to unite around the idea of another god awful crossover film. The franchises need to remain separate permanently.
If this movie succeeds, we can place our bets on a revived AvP movie (barring Covenant does well). Childish bickering over which film is canon and which weapon is the coolest is fruitless. We, as the fan base, need to show support for the film, analyze the known details as they are revealed, and present a united critique, positive or negative, to inform those involved (because I'm sure some watch this site tirelessly) if they are going in the right direction or they need to change something.
TLDR:
Fanbase unite! Let FOX know if they're doing well or creating rubbish!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 27, 2017, 08:34:27 AMIt isn't about it potentially being good, I am just against the idea of such a film ever being made again. I understand that you and many others here love the idea, but I do not.
I think there's plenty of space for an Alien vs. Predator to be good. The first 2 were just done on the cheap, with some wrong ideas. We've seen the concept be good in games and comics, just translate it across to film. I'm still holding out hope on eventually seeing it someday.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jan 27, 2017, 06:32:55 AMAnd that's where it should stay, in the comics.
The original comic shows that the concept has a lot of potential to be just as good as the best films in both series. Indeed, if AVP had gone forward in the 90s as planned, I think it would have been one of the best.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 27, 2017, 05:33:55 AMI take a bit of offense to that idea.
I mean you can make a great movie out of any idea. Alien is just a monster movie.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 27, 2017, 04:08:11 AMIf wanting to protect the Alien franchise from another potential crossover makes me pretentious then so be it.
A crossover doesn't have to be god awful, though. I've never understood why the people on the Alien side had to be so pretentious and dismissive of the very idea.
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Jan 27, 2017, 04:44:05 PMQuote from: KiramidHead on Jan 27, 2017, 04:08:11 AMIf wanting to protect the Alien franchise from another potential crossover makes me pretentious then so be it.
A crossover doesn't have to be god awful, though. I've never understood why the people on the Alien side had to be so pretentious and dismissive of the very idea.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 27, 2017, 05:02:11 PMOh, sorry for the confusion.Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Jan 27, 2017, 04:44:05 PMQuote from: KiramidHead on Jan 27, 2017, 04:08:11 AMIf wanting to protect the Alien franchise from another potential crossover makes me pretentious then so be it.
A crossover doesn't have to be god awful, though. I've never understood why the people on the Alien side had to be so pretentious and dismissive of the very idea.
I wasn't referring to you, but to how overdramatic Weaver, Scott, etc, all acted about the very idea of the concept.
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Jan 27, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
And that's where it should stay, in the comics.
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Jan 27, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
I take a bit of offense to that idea.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jan 27, 2017, 10:18:33 PMIn retrospect, I agree. I took too much offense at his statement of Alien just being a simple monster movie. At the end of the day he is right though, it is a B movie concept with an A list script, cast, and direction.Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Jan 27, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
And that's where it should stay, in the comics.
That's... Incredibly arbitrary of you.
What makes you say that?Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Jan 27, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
I take a bit of offense to that idea.
It's the truth.
Quote from: dinosauriac on Jan 28, 2017, 06:17:57 AM
I need to see some more Dekker stuff.. my exposure is limited to Robocop 3 and some brief behind the scenes snippets in The Winston Effect. Interesting to hear about him still writing stuff as they're about to enter production, could actually be a good thing if he's kept close during the shoot considering Shane Black's own contribution as on-set writer in the original.
I feel like most of us are trying to temper expectations but remain cautiously optimistic with this one. Black is very dependable and if he sticks to his word we should end up with something at least on the level of "Predators with better dialogue- at Christmas."
I actually like that they're taking inspiration from the entire saga, even though AVP could've turned out better those films did a good job of introducing new toys and made these ugly muthas feel a bit more like an actual space-faring culture. They evolved the overall aesthetic and even the sound design of the first AVP expanded on what had gone before in interesting ways (like changing how the clicks sound in predator POV). So there's definitely stuff to mine there, and lessons to be learned of course.