Title: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 03:26:28 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 03:26:28 PM
When it rains, it pours! After so much secrecy and radio silence surrounding Fede Álvarez’s upcoming Alien: Romulus, members of a recent test screening of the film are just letting loose and we’ve got an APC load of Alien: Romulus details.
It should go without saying, but beware major spoilers. Once again, please do not continue to read if you don’t want to spoil the film. You have been warned.
Following some general details that they posted yesterday, Scified has shared more specific details provided by V Scooper about Alien: Romulus. First is that the film will include a new weapon that looks similar to the iconic Pulse Rifle. This is another detail that Alien vs. Predator Galaxy can corroborate. White in colour, the new weapon shares many design elements with the M41A Pulse Rifle including the carry handle, and an underslung pump action.
The second upload that Scified shared today is something related to what we posted in our own intel about the connections between Alien: Romulus and the prequel films and the original Alien. This has been speculation that we’ve seen and enjoyed being posted on our message boards for some time, and we can now confirm the truth behind it. Big Chap’s remains are recovered at the start of Alien: Romulus.
We have been told that in Alien: Romulus we will learn that Weyland-Yutani did in fact recover the Xenomorph from the Nostromo incident. The iconic Big Chap Xenomorph, thought to be dead after it was jettisoned out of the airlock managed to SURVIVE, albeit in rough shape and was floating in space until it was recovered and brought to the Romulus research station. From there, scientists reverse engineered its DNA and extracted the Black Goo material which they then use to run their own experiments on – creating their own Facehuggers and Xenomorphs.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 03:29:18 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 03:29:18 PM
Very exciting
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 03:32:34 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 03:32:34 PM
how long can a xeno survive floating in outer space?
very interesting.
guessing the movie must be very close in time to alien? 2121/22?
very interesting.
guessing the movie must be very close in time to alien? 2121/22?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Vrastal on Mar 13, 2024, 03:36:41 PM
Post by: Vrastal on Mar 13, 2024, 03:36:41 PM
Not sure i like this. Ive been generally dissapointed with the black goo stuff over the last few years. I really would rather see just the alien and maybe variations like the spitter or prowler/preatorian bjt not a fan of random mutagen moster like we saw in fireteam.
But hey maybe theyll do something really interestng with the explanation or something of the black goo.
But hey maybe theyll do something really interestng with the explanation or something of the black goo.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Drukathi on Mar 13, 2024, 03:36:51 PM
Post by: Drukathi on Mar 13, 2024, 03:36:51 PM
So, technically it's a propper Alien 2.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 03:40:02 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 03:32:34 PMhow long can a xeno survive floating in outer space?
very interesting.
guessing the movie must be very close in time to alien? 2021/22?
His ass should be frozen beyond any recognition by then.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 03:43:37 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 03:43:37 PM
Oh god, Big Chap survived? This totally discredits Ripley's heroic afford to kill it. Also, how the f**k did they find it floating in the vast ocean of space?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 03:44:12 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 03:44:12 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 03:40:02 PMQuote from: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 03:32:34 PMhow long can a xeno survive floating in outer space?
very interesting.
guessing the movie must be very close in time to alien? 2021/22?
His ass should be frozen beyond any recognition by then.
yes. are we talking days or months? still alive?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 03:44:47 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 03:44:47 PM
@Nightmare Asylum (and the other guy who claims copyright):
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(https://media.tenor.com/3gdf7MbZbD4AAAAj/you-were-right-xavier-baxter.gif)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 03:45:39 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 03:45:39 PM
Yeah, that was especially funny to me. And then when 4chan ran with it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: RoguePred1987 on Mar 13, 2024, 03:45:59 PM
Post by: RoguePred1987 on Mar 13, 2024, 03:45:59 PM
Posting Mr. H videos guys? seriously?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 03:46:17 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 03:46:17 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 03:43:37 PMAlso, how did they f**king find it floating in the vast ocean of space?
That's gonna need one helluva explanation...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: XenoPredAlien on Mar 13, 2024, 03:46:52 PM
Post by: XenoPredAlien on Mar 13, 2024, 03:46:52 PM
For me this is big for Xenomorph anatomy makes you wonder more about them and hopefully we get a bigger understanding of them can't wait to know more.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 03:47:18 PM
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 03:47:18 PM
To be fair, whether Ripley defeated Big Chap or not, the Xenomorph has been showed to survive in the outer space, if Isolation is anything to go by, which Fede is clearly inspired by.
Maybe it just went into some sort of freeze/sleep mode, like Kars in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
But i think you can't call it the Perfect Organism if it doesn't survive in space, so i am more worried about Big Chap is found in the first place, than it necessarily surviving in outer space.
Maybe it just went into some sort of freeze/sleep mode, like Kars in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
But i think you can't call it the Perfect Organism if it doesn't survive in space, so i am more worried about Big Chap is found in the first place, than it necessarily surviving in outer space.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: yuppy on Mar 13, 2024, 03:47:59 PM
Post by: yuppy on Mar 13, 2024, 03:47:59 PM
Im just wondering why it Ian Holme would be repro using AI. Does that mean simply cgi and someone doing an impression? clearly, a sci-fi future that would utilize stable diffusion looking all glitchy might be something interesting to see, but a fake synth voice with auto tune would just be lame IMHO.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Vrastal on Mar 13, 2024, 03:48:06 PM
Post by: Vrastal on Mar 13, 2024, 03:48:06 PM
Never heard of him whats wrong with mr.h?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 13, 2024, 03:48:49 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 13, 2024, 03:48:49 PM
I just hope we see that original suit again in some shape or form.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 03:51:13 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 03:51:13 PM
oh so that s the kind of stuff they can bio engineer out of a xeno. super soldiers with anti freeze.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 03:54:21 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 03:54:21 PM
I got the urge to rewatch alien now lol
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Vrastal on Mar 13, 2024, 03:55:36 PM
Post by: Vrastal on Mar 13, 2024, 03:55:36 PM
So the black goo is like raw alien dna now and can mutate or be made to make actual aliens that werre used to seeing and its just sorta random on if somethkng mutstes or becomes a xenomorph?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 03:58:54 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 03:58:54 PM
Quote from: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 03:44:12 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 03:40:02 PMQuote from: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 03:32:34 PMhow long can a xeno survive floating in outer space?
very interesting.
guessing the movie must be very close in time to alien? 2021/22?
His ass should be frozen beyond any recognition by then.
yes. are we talking days or months? still alive?
I think it specify it survived yes.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 03:59:45 PM
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: Vrastal on Mar 13, 2024, 03:55:36 PMSo the black goo is like raw alien dna now and can mutate or be made to make actual aliens that werre used to seeing and its just sorta random on if somethkng mutstes or becomes a xenomorph?
Probably.
I think that in someway, whether you tamper with the black goo or just see how it would naturally evolve into, it will always have the Xenomorph as its endgame goal (with some slight variations).
Which is cool, since that wouldn't make David the creator, it would only make him a fraud creator, that "created" his own off-shoot version of the Xenomorphs.
Fitting end for such an egomaniac, to be caught plagiarizing.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 04:02:40 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 04:02:40 PM
But unfortunately, it doesn't erase the fact that this can be a lame macguffin. It creates xenos when it needs to, and creates other creatures when it needs too.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Praetorian92 on Mar 13, 2024, 04:03:35 PM
Post by: Praetorian92 on Mar 13, 2024, 04:03:35 PM
As long as we get to see the fleshy "end boss" get ripped apart by the big chap or a surprise Queen appearance, I'm all for it. It could almost make up for the Protomorph vs Neomorph fight sequence we never got in covenant.
I'm concerned because they talk about lots of facehuggers, but no eggs, no queen mentioned. Hopefully they don't just give us a "oh we can create facehuggers out of thin air with accelerant" explanation.
Another worry for me is if Wey-Yu had an established station like this with access to multiple Xenos, how was all this erased by the time of Aliens. The Company has always been OBSESSED with having the Alien, yet apparently they actually had them and ABANDONED the station due to an incident. No redundant site B, no attempts to revisit the place and steal a facehugger, or reclaim it from the infestation. That doesn't fit well in my mind with the same company that was willing to spend fortunes and kill anyone in the way to get just one specimen. Why bother with all that if they had a station they owned just laying around full of them? A lot of questions will need to be answered for me to be comfortable with this, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
I'm concerned because they talk about lots of facehuggers, but no eggs, no queen mentioned. Hopefully they don't just give us a "oh we can create facehuggers out of thin air with accelerant" explanation.
Another worry for me is if Wey-Yu had an established station like this with access to multiple Xenos, how was all this erased by the time of Aliens. The Company has always been OBSESSED with having the Alien, yet apparently they actually had them and ABANDONED the station due to an incident. No redundant site B, no attempts to revisit the place and steal a facehugger, or reclaim it from the infestation. That doesn't fit well in my mind with the same company that was willing to spend fortunes and kill anyone in the way to get just one specimen. Why bother with all that if they had a station they owned just laying around full of them? A lot of questions will need to be answered for me to be comfortable with this, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 13, 2024, 04:06:24 PM
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 13, 2024, 04:06:24 PM
Exciting, but also a bit worrying
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:10:43 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:10:43 PM
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 03:46:17 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 03:43:37 PMAlso, how did they f**king find it floating in the vast ocean of space?
That's gonna need one helluva explanation...
They'll skip that part :)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 04:13:29 PM
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 04:13:29 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:10:43 PMQuote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 03:46:17 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 03:43:37 PMAlso, how did they f**king find it floating in the vast ocean of space?
That's gonna need one helluva explanation...
They'll skip that part :)
But do they really need to explain it though?
It's suposed to be the perfect organism, so surviving in outer space seems right up its alley.
Not to mention, that Isolation already showed us the Xenomorph surviving in outer space.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Neila on Mar 13, 2024, 04:15:45 PM
Post by: Neila on Mar 13, 2024, 04:15:45 PM
no....I don't read anything....I don't watch any trailers.....
no no no......
no no no......
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 0321recon on Mar 13, 2024, 04:17:40 PM
Post by: 0321recon on Mar 13, 2024, 04:17:40 PM
Oh good gawd no. :o that's what they're going with? Them finding big chap floating out there 🤣. I'm sorry that's some hilarious stuff and in the same time cringe inducing. Oh no. Execution is key here since this can look either hilariously bad or terrifying. At least if true, like Covenant these leaks have severely lowered my expectations for Romulus.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:24:01 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:24:01 PM
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 04:13:29 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:10:43 PMQuote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 03:46:17 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 03:43:37 PMAlso, how did they f**king find it floating in the vast ocean of space?
That's gonna need one helluva explanation...
They'll skip that part :)
But do they really need to explain it though?
It's suposed to be the perfect organism, so surviving in outer space seems right up its alley.
Not to mention, that Isolation already showed us the Xenomorph surviving in outer space.
I was referring to someone finding it floating in the vast ocean of space.
Also, perfect organism is just a label. Such a thing like perfect organism doesn't exist. How could it survive floating in the vacuum of cosmos where nothing was around?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 04:25:14 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 04:25:14 PM
Gotta be honest - not too excited about either
Spoiler
BC return or another android with Ian Holme's face
[close]
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 04:26:25 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 04:26:25 PM
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 04:13:29 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:10:43 PMQuote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 03:46:17 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 03:43:37 PMAlso, how did they f**king find it floating in the vast ocean of space?
That's gonna need one helluva explanation...
They'll skip that part :)
But do they really need to explain it though?
It's suposed to be the perfect organism, so surviving in outer space seems right up its alley.
Not to mention, that Isolation already showed us the Xenomorph surviving in outer space.
It's not so much the surving as finding it.
Space is vast, Big Chap is a slightly larger than man sized object.
Objects in space don't float stationary. They are simply in freefall towards the strongest gravity well.
To find Big Chap you would need to find out where and when the Narcissus ejected it, which direction and speed the Narcissus was traveling at, how much thrust Ripley applied to the ion engines, the effects of the nearest gravity wells etc. and even then you'd still need a mountain of luck and years of searching.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 04:28:30 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 04:28:30 PM
Didn't I say something previously about there being some decades between Alien and my intel of when Romulus began?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 04:29:10 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 04:29:10 PM
Well that was while it lasted. Sorry the spoilers are out there now. >:(
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Rankles75 on Mar 13, 2024, 04:29:21 PM
Post by: Rankles75 on Mar 13, 2024, 04:29:21 PM
I thought BC was basically burned to a crisp personally. Good thing they didn't find the Queen floating out there instead, maybe they're saving that for the sequel? ;)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 13, 2024, 04:30:56 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 13, 2024, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 04:28:30 PMDidn't I say something previously about there being some decades between Alien and my intel of when Romulus began?
I assumed you meant they catch Big Chap relatively relatively soon after Alien as Wey-Yu would be searching that particular area of space for the Nostromo. Then the move skips ahead a few decades.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 04:31:11 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 04:31:11 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:24:01 PMAlso, perfect organism is just a label. Such a thing like perfect organism doesn't exist. How could it survive floating in the vacuum of cosmos where nothing was around?
Its sci-fi, man. How can it grow so fast ? How can it have acid for blood ? Why does it have that trademark "biomech" look ? These are things that make it "Alien" for us i.e. non-explainable. Personally, I very much dig the idea of Alien being capable to survive indefinetly in the vacuum of space - either hibernating or chasing some poor soul in a space suit
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 13, 2024, 04:33:01 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 13, 2024, 04:33:01 PM
I can imagine it curled up in a fetal position all iced up a bit like the image of the queen at the start of the very first Aliens dark horse comic.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 04:34:04 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 04:34:04 PM
Quote from: Rankles75 on Mar 13, 2024, 04:29:21 PMI thought BC was basically burned to a crisp personally
That's not how I remember it. Shuttle engines' firing up clearly hurt it to the point of it letting go of Narcissus but otherwise it looked very much intact
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:36:54 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 04:31:11 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:24:01 PMAlso, perfect organism is just a label. Such a thing like perfect organism doesn't exist. How could it survive floating in the vacuum of cosmos where nothing was around?
Its sci-fi, man. How can it grow so fast ? How can it have acid for blood ? Why does it have that trademark "biomech" look ? These are things that make it "Alien" for us i.e. non-explainable. Personally, I very much dig the idea of Alien being capable to survive indefinetly in the vacuum of space - either hibernating or chasing some poor soul in a space suit
Growing fast, having acid for a blood is one thing, surviving indefinitely in the vacuum of space is another. Not to mention it was wounded and presumably in its last stage of life cycle. But I'm guessing it's not a case anymore.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 04:37:09 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 04:37:09 PM
Sooo...
Spoiler
...because Big Chap has been tapped for pathogen and it's been dubbed the "Prometheus strain", does this mean that they're going with the whole "David created the Xenomorph" thing?
[close]
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 04:37:42 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 13, 2024, 04:33:01 PMI can imagine it curled up in a fetal position all iced up a bit like the image of the queen at the start of the very first Aliens dark horse comic.
Or maybe like this ?
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vSfuNdiEEI8/WAJSbFZ28dI/AAAAAAABuKY/DvDjnAu4z1gW7umqxDK2EwtsZR549toswCLcB/s1600/tumblr_mxgzs7Cro81sl5leko1_400.gif)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:39:22 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:39:22 PM
Yeah, I'm guessing they will go that road. Frozen in space.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 04:41:57 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 04:41:57 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:36:54 PMGrowing fast, having acid for a blood is one thing, surviving indefinitely in the vacuum of space is another.
(https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/thor-is-it-though.jpg)
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:36:54 PMNot to mention it was wounded and presumably in its last stage of life cycle
Facehugger healed just fine after being cut - who's to say adult one can't do the same ?
The whole "Alien has a very short life span" thing isn't stated in the movie itself
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Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:51:44 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:51:44 PM
Yes, that's why I used term presumably. But even if it does survive, it still doesn't change the fact that Ripley's final heroic act is discredited. I'm simply not buying it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 13, 2024, 04:57:20 PM
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 13, 2024, 04:57:20 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 04:29:10 PMWell that was while it lasted. Sorry the spoilers are out there now. >:(
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How cool does our boy look? Aside from scaring, is his design accurate? Or did he suffer a major redesign?
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 04:57:40 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 04:57:40 PM
The question is
I'm not sure I want an answer to that question ???
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does Big Chap revives itself during the movie and goes on a rampage, or is he just used to set up the story for the DNA retrieving thing ?
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I'm not sure I want an answer to that question ???
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 13, 2024, 04:58:42 PM
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 13, 2024, 04:58:42 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 04:57:40 PMThe question isI really hope thatSpoiler
does Big Chap revives itself during the movie and goes on a rampage, or is he just used to set up the story for the DNA retrieving thing ?[close]
I'm not sure I want an answer to that question ???
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he is the main Alien of the movie instead of a prop
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 05:00:04 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 05:00:04 PM
You must be joking :)
Alien: Romulus aka Big Chap Strikes Back! Jesus :)
Alien: Romulus aka Big Chap Strikes Back! Jesus :)
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 05:06:38 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 05:06:38 PM
I'm not sure I'd want that either, still processing the thought.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 05:08:25 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 05:08:25 PM
f**k Mr. H and his lazy ass grift. I wish folks would stop watching his shit so he'd fade into nothing through the algorithm. Folks like him do so much damage to so many franchises. And he calls himself a "filmmaker". Pathetic.
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Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 05:12:32 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 05:12:32 PM
So you were referring to him in your video? :)
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Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 05:17:59 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 05:17:59 PM
He's most certainly someone I was directing that at. But really everyone who follows his style of grift. No effort, just in it for the clicks. Gives no actual shit about anyone but themselves. He's beyond lazy and his content proves that.
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Post by: lv_226 on Mar 13, 2024, 05:19:51 PM
Post by: lv_226 on Mar 13, 2024, 05:19:51 PM
Well, this seems to have answered some of my questions about how they are going to get ahold of the alien without relying on David/the Covenant. Interesting... BUT this does seem to be at the core of both Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3's core story... so it's not outside of the internal logic that the series has set up for WY motivations. HOW they find Big Chap, however... how this is executed will be everything. I just hope we don't get another "egg aboard the Sulaco" moment.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 05:17:59 PMHe's most certainly someone I was directing that at. But really everyone who follows his style of grift. No effort, just in it for the clicks. Gives no actual shit about anyone but themselves. He's beyond lazy and his content proves that.Yep, has no respect for the IP and the people who worked on this project... just in it for the clicks. Looking forward to how this is executed.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 05:21:43 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 05:21:43 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 05:08:25 PMf**k Mr. H and his lazy ass grift. I wish folks would stop watching his shit so he'd fade into nothing through the algorithm. Folks like him do so much damage to so many franchises. And he falls himself a "filmmaker". Pathetic.
I agree. He copies/pastes.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 05:44:45 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 05:44:45 PM
I'd say go tell him how we feel, but the comments would boost him in the algorithm and I don't want to promote the f**ker. I already said my 2 cents on Twitter and his YT comments though, so I'm no better and giving him that algo boost.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 05:48:14 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 05:48:14 PM
Just like @Local Trouble, I have never watched a Mr. H video.
Also, @Nightmare Asylum now refuses to read these threads because of possible spoilers, and now he doesn't know he was right about Big Chap. :laugh: :'(
Also, @Nightmare Asylum now refuses to read these threads because of possible spoilers, and now he doesn't know he was right about Big Chap. :laugh: :'(
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 05:59:45 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 05:59:45 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:51:44 PMYes, that's why I used term presumably. But even if it does survive, it still doesn't change the fact that Ripley's final heroic act is discredited. I'm simply not buying it.
Yeah, I'm not too happy about that either. It's just the concept of Alien being able to survive the vacuum I find pretty cool
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 13, 2024, 06:01:50 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 13, 2024, 06:01:50 PM
Dang! Talk about feast or famine. I feel like most of the film has been spoiled already lol.
I'm okay with what I'm hearing, sounds like a good use for the
As long as it's executed well then I'm okay with most of this. Still don't like WY having so much access to the creature before Aliens though.
Regarding Rips sacrifice, I couldnt care less about trying to preserve its effectiveness at this point. However so long as the creatures are destroyed before A3 her sacrifice still counts for 200 years.
I'm okay with what I'm hearing, sounds like a good use for the
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goo. Also having Big Chap be found and alive is still alright with me. How did they find him? Why sensors ofcourse.
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As long as it's executed well then I'm okay with most of this. Still don't like WY having so much access to the creature before Aliens though.
Regarding Rips sacrifice, I couldnt care less about trying to preserve its effectiveness at this point. However so long as the creatures are destroyed before A3 her sacrifice still counts for 200 years.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 06:04:40 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 06:04:40 PM
Quote from: lv_226 on Mar 13, 2024, 05:19:51 PMI just hope we don't get another "egg aboard the Sulaco" moment.
Why not? I'm already girding myself.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 0321recon on Mar 13, 2024, 06:05:57 PM
Post by: 0321recon on Mar 13, 2024, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 05:00:04 PMYou must be joking :)
Alien: Romulus aka Big Chap Strikes Back! Jesus :)
Yea this sounds bad lmao 🤣
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 06:06:49 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 06:06:49 PM
ffs
no eggmorphing. after all these years.
eish.....
no eggmorphing. after all these years.
eish.....
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:10:14 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:10:14 PM
Pretty much all the big stuff has indeed been revealed and it f**king sucks.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 13, 2024, 06:12:06 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 13, 2024, 06:12:06 PM
Would never have thought they'd actually dig up/strung up the Alien's corpse beating a dead horse or in this case xenomorph to harvest more material to milk that cash cow, it may work in context, it sounds absurd but it's a poetic analogy. It could come across as ridiculous or an intriguing callback. Can't think of the last time a character seen floating through the vacuum of space and picked up by a ship to safety wasn't ridiculed by a fanbase.
I'm unsure how the Ian Holm Ash inclusion will be pulled off, I kinda give it an odd because the character was an artificial intelligence, hope Ian's relative provided permission to his likeness and were compensated nicely.
I'm unsure how the Ian Holm Ash inclusion will be pulled off, I kinda give it an odd because the character was an artificial intelligence, hope Ian's relative provided permission to his likeness and were compensated nicely.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: hamilton_milo on Mar 13, 2024, 06:13:18 PM
Post by: hamilton_milo on Mar 13, 2024, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 13, 2024, 04:58:42 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 04:57:40 PMThe question isI really hope thatSpoiler
does Big Chap revives itself during the movie and goes on a rampage, or is he just used to set up the story for the DNA retrieving thing ?[close]
I'm not sure I want an answer to that question ???Spoiler
he is the main Alien of the movie instead of a prop[close]
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Yeah, same. I know people have problems with it — I can understand one's perspective thinking it's a bit daft to recover Big Chap — but the Giger design is by far my favourite and I think it'll bring back that invincibility factor somewhat, which is how I imagine audiences would have felt watching the first movie in 1979.
Kinda dig Big Chap being the Jason Voorhees threat for the majority of the film, myself. Would help make me more open-minded to the new creature revealed at the end, which sounds kind of dull if I'm to be honest.
Kinda dig Big Chap being the Jason Voorhees threat for the majority of the film, myself. Would help make me more open-minded to the new creature revealed at the end, which sounds kind of dull if I'm to be honest.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 13, 2024, 06:16:20 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 13, 2024, 06:16:20 PM
Without stoking Fires evoking drama people can have their opinions on movies, Tv shows, games and comics and their standard of quality, to be fair thorough and constructive with their critiques but at times some express it in less than an ideal manner. Not taking shots let's be civil.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 06:20:48 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 06:20:48 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:10:14 PMPretty much all the big stuff has indeed been revealed and it f**king sucks.
Don't worry. I'll forget most of it by August.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PrincessFiona161 on Mar 13, 2024, 06:21:50 PM
Post by: PrincessFiona161 on Mar 13, 2024, 06:21:50 PM
Kinda funny how we got all the big surprises out of the way before even seeing a still image of any footage
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Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 06:27:48 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 06:27:48 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:10:14 PMPretty much all the big stuff has indeed been revealed and it f**king sucks.
I think you're still holding out on us. >:(
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: lv_226 on Mar 13, 2024, 06:27:56 PM
Post by: lv_226 on Mar 13, 2024, 06:27:56 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:10:14 PMPretty much all the big stuff has indeed been revealed and it f**king sucks.:(
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 06:28:46 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 06:28:46 PM
Quote from: PrincessFiona161 on Mar 13, 2024, 06:21:50 PMKinda funny how we got all the big surprises out of the way before even seeing a still image of any footage
Genie flew out of the bottle.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Lagrie on Mar 13, 2024, 06:31:24 PM
Post by: Lagrie on Mar 13, 2024, 06:31:24 PM
Call me excited. it is the perfect organism after all. Big Chap.
So surviving space is great.
What if weyland knew about the location of the xenomorph? and just send the nostromo there purely to retrieve it?
Then trying to copy it, failing it, knowing where ripley has been for 75 years, take her back to retrieve them again. Cause she's the only one that actually survived it.
Why not. We will see. But i'm happy with the spoilers tbh. I'm excited.
So surviving space is great.
What if weyland knew about the location of the xenomorph? and just send the nostromo there purely to retrieve it?
Then trying to copy it, failing it, knowing where ripley has been for 75 years, take her back to retrieve them again. Cause she's the only one that actually survived it.
Why not. We will see. But i'm happy with the spoilers tbh. I'm excited.
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Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 13, 2024, 06:31:50 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 13, 2024, 06:31:50 PM
@Mike's Monsters This may be not appropriate to ask if so discard. Did the Blomkamp project actually have a script draft as Sigourney Weaver and James Cameron suggest or was it merely a ten page treatment as Ridley Scott described? Did it have a working tittle final title on consideration? you don't have to say the name.
It was that bad apparently ? :o
It was that bad apparently ? :o
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:32:15 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:32:15 PM
We shouldn't even be talking about the details yet to begin with. But some leaker had to blow their load in Mr H's mouth and he loves sucking it down.
I don't know what it was gonna be called, but my understanding is there was a rough treatment or an early script was made.
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 13, 2024, 06:31:50 PM@Mike's Monsters This may be not appropriate to ask if so discard. Did the Blomkamp project actually have a script draft as Sigourney Weaver and James Cameron suggest or was it merely a ten page treatment as Ridley Scott described? Did it have a working tittle final title on consideration? you don't have to say the name.
It was that bad apparently ? :o
I don't know what it was gonna be called, but my understanding is there was a rough treatment or an early script was made.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 06:33:45 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 06:33:45 PM
I'm not accustomed to Mike's dirty talk, but I'm here for it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Gazz on Mar 13, 2024, 06:33:49 PM
Post by: Gazz on Mar 13, 2024, 06:33:49 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:10:14 PMPretty much all the big stuff has indeed been revealed and it f**king sucks.
I'm genuinely quite pissed about it.
I will say, as someone who is more of a lurker around these parts, you dished out the exact kind of information and level of spoils that I feel benefitted the film. And it was at the level that kept driving me back here to read what was next. It's such a shame that the beans have been royally spilled so early from a host of people who should know better. Thanks for the last 12 months or so of hints and nods. Sorry the gig got f**ked for nothing but clicks.
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Post by: DARIAS93 on Mar 13, 2024, 06:34:09 PM
Post by: DARIAS93 on Mar 13, 2024, 06:34:09 PM
At this point, they might as well release the trailer since the leaks are going out of control.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:34:22 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:34:22 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 06:27:48 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:10:14 PMPretty much all the big stuff has indeed been revealed and it f**king sucks.
I think you're still holding out on us. >:(
I don't know if I am at this point.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 06:34:46 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 06:34:46 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 06:27:48 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:10:14 PMPretty much all the big stuff has indeed been revealed and it f**king sucks.
I think you're still holding out on us. >:(
There's still #DavidJockey
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 13, 2024, 06:40:47 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 13, 2024, 06:40:47 PM
Has been a crazy day. I wasnt even expecting AVPGAL to reveal as much as they did to be honest.
Vids and articles just kept popping up every ten mins and within 2 hours most of the secrets were out. Staggering really considering not even a teaser has been released yet.
I havent watched Mr H's vid but the other stuff has been hard to avoid.
Vids and articles just kept popping up every ten mins and within 2 hours most of the secrets were out. Staggering really considering not even a teaser has been released yet.
I havent watched Mr H's vid but the other stuff has been hard to avoid.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:42:10 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:42:10 PM
Yep. Spreads like a wildfire. I got so pissed seeing it start to move last night while watching my video upload. Almost feels like I completely wasted my time.
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Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 13, 2024, 06:52:33 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 13, 2024, 06:52:33 PM
Just by the by have any of you seen the Abundance n thousands of fake fan made Alien Romulus videos on YouTube posing as a trailer but there clearly fake. I get the whole "it's been too soon these many months to expect a trailer" but even just a YouTube search of Alien Romulus will get you nothing but SO MANY OF THESE AWFUL FAKE TRAILERS, ITS RIDICULOUS!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 06:55:53 PM
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 13, 2024, 06:52:33 PMJust by the by have any of you seen the Abundance n thousands of fake fan made Alien Romulus videos on YouTube posing as a trailer but there clearly fake. I get the whole "it's been too soon these many months to expect a trailer" but even just a YouTube search of Alien Romulus will get you nothing but SO MANY OF THESE AWFUL FAKE TRAILERS, ITS RIDICULOUS!
Yeah, the fan trailers have gotten out of control, but what irks me the most is that sometimes in the comments (or on twitter) you will see actual people think that it's true and then shit on the movie.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 07:00:29 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 07:00:29 PM
Hicks and I talked about this the other night. We both loved fan trailers in concept form back in the day. The "what if" kind. But now they're all being passed off as official to trick viewers, boost views and get a paycheck from the millions of views they get.
I even saw one of these channels advertising a workshop on how to blow up and make bank on YouTube by making fake trailers to trick viewers. It's literally a grift. As is Mr H and his whole shop. They bring no actual value to the world; and likely have very sad and lonely lives. They definitely make good money from the views, but money doesn't bring happiness.
I even saw one of these channels advertising a workshop on how to blow up and make bank on YouTube by making fake trailers to trick viewers. It's literally a grift. As is Mr H and his whole shop. They bring no actual value to the world; and likely have very sad and lonely lives. They definitely make good money from the views, but money doesn't bring happiness.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 07:02:38 PM
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 07:02:38 PM
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 04:26:25 PMSpace is vast, Big Chap is a slightly larger than man sized object.
Objects in space don't float stationary. They are simply in freefall towards the strongest gravity well.
To find Big Chap you would need to find out where and when the Narcissus ejected it, which direction and speed the Narcissus was traveling at, how much thrust Ripley applied to the ion engines, the effects of the nearest gravity wells etc. and even then you'd still need a mountain of luck and years of searching.
Yeah, i do agree on this part though, so i'm going to leave it up to the execution.
Alien 3 has that first scene with the egg on the Sulaco, but i really like the rest of the movie, so if it's something like that, i don't think that would ruin the movie for me.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 07:03:19 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 07:03:19 PM
i am not someone who complains about early reveals but completely flabergasted at how quickly the reveals came.
shite.
like when daisy walks into the sheriff s office in a bikini .....must be a new record.
shite.
like when daisy walks into the sheriff s office in a bikini .....must be a new record.
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Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 07:05:31 PM
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 07:05:31 PM
Quote from: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 07:03:19 PMi am not someone who complains about early reveals but completely flabergasted at how quickly the reveals came.
shite.
Yup, they just kept going and going.
At this point, they might as well leak the sequels.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 07:13:29 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 07:05:31 PMQuote from: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 07:03:19 PMi am not someone who complains about early reveals but completely flabergasted at how quickly the reveals came.
shite.
Yup, they just kept going and going.
At this point, they might as well leak the sequels.
as mike said Prey had no real test screenings. perhaps that s what should have happened here.
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Post by: skhellter on Mar 13, 2024, 07:17:29 PM
Post by: skhellter on Mar 13, 2024, 07:17:29 PM
between avpg and Mr. H i feel like i've been spoiled on the full movie.
This all feels like it's just too much too soon and i think there'll be a few cease and desists incoming soon.
Mike, i really think the way you have been teasing things was really proper and respectful to the creators. Just teasing a bit and generating interest. Good stuff. Following the channel.
This all feels like it's just too much too soon and i think there'll be a few cease and desists incoming soon.
Mike, i really think the way you have been teasing things was really proper and respectful to the creators. Just teasing a bit and generating interest. Good stuff. Following the channel.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 07:26:39 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 07:26:39 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Mar 13, 2024, 07:17:29 PMMike, i really think the way you have been teasing things was really proper and respectful to the creators. Just teasing a bit and generating interest. Good stuff. Following the channel.
Hey thank you. I was trying my best not to really reveal anything that was a major plot point or too spoilery with my little teases over the last few months. It was all coming from excitement for my love of this franchise, but never intended to share as much as we saw today. I really appreciate you saying that.
I can't deny though it's been amazing seeing everything behind the scenes. Learning more and more as I made more visits or spent time with folk working on the movie. It's something I never imagined would happen, or even seeing the movie as early as I did.
It really, really hurts my heart to know how many of you have had the whole thing spoiled for you. I'm sorry some dickwads had to ruin it for everyone.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 13, 2024, 07:29:36 PM
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 13, 2024, 07:29:36 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 06:10:14 PMPretty much all the big stuff has indeed been revealed and it f**king sucks.
Man this day sucks, first I had to endure Orlando, now this.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:30:33 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:30:33 PM
Do folk not want us to cover leaks and such? Or provide context to the leaks? It's what we've spent the last 20 something years doing. Everyone is given very explicit warnings about not reading on if they don't want to be spoiled. Should we have not shared our own scoop at all? I feel like this is a very lose-lose situation for me here.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 07:33:20 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 07:33:20 PM
I think it's a valid question and I'm curious as to what people think as well. Again, I'm not frustrated with the AvPG folks one bit. Just upset with the situation.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 07:34:16 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 07:34:16 PM
I don't have problems with it at all. It was my choice to read the spoilers. Nobody forces anyone.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 07:34:28 PM
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 07:34:28 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 07:26:39 PMQuote from: skhellter on Mar 13, 2024, 07:17:29 PMMike, i really think the way you have been teasing things was really proper and respectful to the creators. Just teasing a bit and generating interest. Good stuff. Following the channel.
Hey thank you. I was trying my best not to really reveal anything that was a major plot point or too spoilery with my little teases over the last few months. It was all coming from excitement for my love of this franchise, but never intended to share as much as we saw today. I really appreciate you saying that.
I can't deny though it's been amazing seeing everything behind the scenes. Learning more and more as I made more visits or spent time with folk working on the movie. It's something I never imagined would happen, or even seeing the movie as early as I did.
Yeah, Mike, you did great, as infuriating as it was to not know anything, i still admire your level of restraint and your respect for the franchise and the people that worked on that movie.
I used to watch Mr H back in the Alien: Covenant days, but now he has fallen off so much.
Sometimes my big monkey brain needs that nostalgic dopamine rush so i see one of his Alien related videos, but overall, the guy has clearly sold himself to the Youtube algorythm.
His content is just copy and paste and leaking, so pretty much, jack shit of actual effort from his part.
Maybe that could be tolerated if he wasn't such a Drama Queen and one of the reactionaries, which just turned into another group of sellout echo chambers (for the other side of the culture war they love so much).
I think he wanted to be a filmmaker and that clearly didn't work out, so this is the best he'll ever get, to copy, paste and leak the hard work of others that found success where he could not.
There has been some recent controversy regarding Eric July's Yaira trailer which Mr H criticized (fairly), but at the end of the day, the guy will never listen to fair criticism towards him and will just act like he is always right.
Not to mention that he doesn't react to Critical Drinker's own shitty project, because he probably doesn't want to roast a "friend", so just more hypocrisy coming from him.
I heard his fiance left him, so maybe that is why he is so bitter now.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: skhellter on Mar 13, 2024, 07:37:42 PM
Post by: skhellter on Mar 13, 2024, 07:37:42 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:30:33 PMDo folk not want us to cover leaks and such? Or provide context to the leaks? It's what we've spent the last 20 something years doing. Everyone is given very explicit warnings about not reading on if they don't want to be spoiled. Should we have not shared our own scoop at all? I feel like this is a very lose-lose situation for me here.
the golden rule as far as leaks go - and i think following it would be wise -
Sharing Act 1 stuff is more than fine. Little design elements to stuff in the trailers, teasing context to trailer stuff.. etc.... fine.
Act 3 should be considered a no-Go Radiation zone.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: MaineXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 07:38:12 PM
Post by: MaineXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 07:38:12 PM
I can't speak for other people but leaks don't bother me at all. If anything they can either make me even more excited for a movie and I still have the fun of seeing how it plays out. Or it can soften the blow if a movie turns out bad because I will already know about the things I probably won't like and instead focus on things that I do like.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Serpico Jones on Mar 13, 2024, 07:39:16 PM
Post by: Serpico Jones on Mar 13, 2024, 07:39:16 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:30:33 PMDo folk not want us to cover leaks and such? Or provide context to the leaks? It's what we've spent the last 20 something years doing. Everyone is given very explicit warnings about not reading on if they don't want to be spoiled. Should we have not shared our own scoop at all? I feel like this is a very lose-lose situation for me here.You guys do great work and your YouTube channel is awesome. I personally love the spoiler reports and is one of the main reasons I come to the site.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 07:39:27 PM
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 07:39:27 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 07:26:39 PMIt really, really hurts my heart to know how many of you have had the whole thing spoiled for you. I'm sorry some dickwads had to ruin it for everyone.
Well, to be fair, i am a spoiler whore.
I will not go out of my way to purposely spoil people, but i will seek out spoilers for myself.
I simply can't help myself.
I read the summary from an Alien: Covenant screenings, months before the movie was even released, not to mention that i watched every single Covenant teaser/trailer/spot that practically showed every cool and important visual imagery of the movie, so that was my fault too.
I kind of wish that Romulus teaser/trailer goes back to old school horror trailers, where is more about the vibe and atmosphere, than showing plot points.
Sort of like the recent Longlegs trailer, or hell, the original Alien trailer.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: solace97 on Mar 13, 2024, 07:41:22 PM
Post by: solace97 on Mar 13, 2024, 07:41:22 PM
I think it comes down to the individual not reading. I'm directly here to spoil it for myself because to me it's not about being surprised I like to hear what's going on and then see the execution, that doesn't bother me one bit. It's like reading an Alien or Predator comic or media and then watching the film adaptation later to me
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:42:09 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Mar 13, 2024, 07:37:42 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:30:33 PMDo folk not want us to cover leaks and such? Or provide context to the leaks? It's what we've spent the last 20 something years doing. Everyone is given very explicit warnings about not reading on if they don't want to be spoiled. Should we have not shared our own scoop at all? I feel like this is a very lose-lose situation for me here.
the golden rule as far as leaks go - and i think following it would be wise -
Sharing Act 1 stuff is more than fine. Little design elements to stuff in the trailers, teasing context to trailer stuff.. etc.... fine.
Act 3 should be considered a no-Go Radiation zone.
I can't control what these other outlets are sharing, though, and I know full well I'm going to get people submitting them as news. Do I just ignore them, knowing they're going to get posted in the boards or on the socials anyway?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 07:43:04 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 07:43:04 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:30:33 PMDo folk not want us to cover leaks and such? Or provide context to the leaks? It's what we've spent the last 20 something years doing. Everyone is given very explicit warnings about not reading on if they don't want to be spoiled. Should we have not shared our own scoop at all? I feel like this is a very lose-lose situation for me here.
I think it's fine as long as you provide spoiler warnings as you always do anyway.
The studio might not be impressed though, so you might be less likely to get an exclusive from them, but then again, it's only the really big outlets who get those kind of scoops anyway, so no loss.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 07:43:26 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 07:43:26 PM
I've read Dune book before and I've seen Dune part 2 recently. I had a great time at the cinema.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 07:47:59 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 07:47:59 PM
I've learned to reasonably control myself regarding spoilers. I read stuff, but not everything. I remember The Predator days, I spoiled myself on everything. Absolute carnage it was. I'm a little wiser now.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: skhellter on Mar 13, 2024, 07:51:34 PM
Post by: skhellter on Mar 13, 2024, 07:51:34 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:42:09 PMI can't control what these other outlets are sharing, though, and I know full well I'm going to get people submitting them as news. Do I just ignore them, knowing they're going to get posted in the boards or on the socials anyway?
I'd recommend following the political move of letting other people catch the full blame and heat for posting stuff they shouldn't have first.
AND THEN you provide context. ;D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 13, 2024, 07:58:30 PM
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 13, 2024, 07:58:30 PM
I just saw the stuff about the premise, which I am already angry about getting spoiled on honestly, saw something about a as well? I hope not, I find that really distasteful, in pretty much every respect itself.
So time for a media blackout on Romulus if more got leaked. See ya in a few guys.
Spoiler
deepfake Ash
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So time for a media blackout on Romulus if more got leaked. See ya in a few guys.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 08:00:27 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 08:00:27 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Mar 13, 2024, 07:51:34 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:42:09 PMI can't control what these other outlets are sharing, though, and I know full well I'm going to get people submitting them as news. Do I just ignore them, knowing they're going to get posted in the boards or on the socials anyway?
I'd recommend following the political move of letting other people catch the full blame and heat for posting stuff they shouldn't have first.
AND THEN you provide context. ;D
But that's what I've done here. I shared one story detail here that none of the others did. Otherwise, I've just shared the details from the others. I offered a little bit extra about the rifle, and just confirmed the other bits. I didn't even transcribe any of Mr H's details. I straight up said "go watch that for yourself if you want spoilers."
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Stitch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:00:55 PM
Post by: Stitch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:00:55 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:30:33 PMDo folk not want us to cover leaks and such? Or provide context to the leaks? It's what we've spent the last 20 something years doing. Everyone is given very explicit warnings about not reading on if they don't want to be spoiled. Should we have not shared our own scoop at all? I feel like this is a very lose-lose situation for me here.I'm here, and have been here for a long time, simply because of the way the site is run. Keep going the way you always have.
If you think it should be posted, post it; if not, don't. But also, if the cat's already out of the bag, then there's no use locking the stable after the horse has bolted, to mix some metaphors.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: MaineXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 08:02:54 PM
Post by: MaineXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 08:02:54 PM
Spoiler
What the hell are some of these takes on the leaks lmao. I've seen people mad that Big Chap can survive in space, like seriously we've seen that since the first movie and it's been shown in games and comics. Also people are mad that he is found to begin with saying it's unrealistic. Well that can also apply to Ripley and The Nostromo black box in Isolation. I'm getting worried that this movie is gonna get hit with the "it's woke" or "new movie therefore bad" or now "it used ai for an actor that's dead" this movie sounds really good but it's sounding like it's gonna get hit a lot
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:05:10 PM
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:05:10 PM
I'm seeing to many people who disliked everything that come out today about Romulus story and connections with the prequel's and Alien. We must wait to see the movie first, maybe this things looks bad reading it here but on screen in the movie it really works. Having saying that I must say that I liked most of what I read of the leaks today.
Now I'm even more hyped for the trailer, I really hope that comes this month. The wait it's killing me 😨
Now I'm even more hyped for the trailer, I really hope that comes this month. The wait it's killing me 😨
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:05:41 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:05:41 PM
Quote from: MaineXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 08:02:54 PMSpoiler
What the hell are some of these takes on the leaks lmao. I've seen people mad that Big Chap can survive in space, like seriously we've seen that since the first movie and it's been shown in games and comics. Also people are mad that he is found to begin with saying it's unrealistic. Well that can also apply to Ripley and The Nostromo black box in Isolation.[close]
You saved me having to type out the same thoughts. I think it's largely just from the angry undercurrent that's taken over most fandoms. Nothing is good enough. I don't think if the original came out now it would be safe from the badgering! Imo
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 08:07:01 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 08:07:01 PM
I'll say, not being the biggest fan of the prequels and the ideas that come from them... I liked how Romulus tied it all together... it made it work for me.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:09:43 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:09:43 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 08:00:27 PMQuote from: skhellter on Mar 13, 2024, 07:51:34 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:42:09 PMI can't control what these other outlets are sharing, though, and I know full well I'm going to get people submitting them as news. Do I just ignore them, knowing they're going to get posted in the boards or on the socials anyway?
I'd recommend following the political move of letting other people catch the full blame and heat for posting stuff they shouldn't have first.
AND THEN you provide context. ;D
But that's what I've done here. I shared one story detail here that none of the others did. Otherwise, I've just shared the details from the others. I offered a little bit extra about the rifle, and just confirmed the other bits. I didn't even transcribe any of Mr H's details. I straight up said "go watch that for yourself if you want spoilers."
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
At the end of the day you need the ad revenue to pay for hosting. Posting spoilery stuff makes people go clickety click.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 08:12:03 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 08:12:03 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:05:41 PMnow it would be safe from the badgering!
Nothing is safe from the badgering!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 08:12:54 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 08:12:54 PM
I credit spoilers and trailers with letting me know if I should just stay at home and eat ice cream.
And right now it's looking like another ice cream party is in my future.
And right now it's looking like another ice cream party is in my future.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:16:55 PM
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:16:55 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:05:41 PMThat's right, people maybe are to harsh with the movie without seeing itQuote from: MaineXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 08:02:54 PMSpoiler
What the hell are some of these takes on the leaks lmao. I've seen people mad that Big Chap can survive in space, like seriously we've seen that since the first movie and it's been shown in games and comics. Also people are mad that he is found to begin with saying it's unrealistic. Well that can also apply to Ripley and The Nostromo black box in Isolation.[close]
You saved me having to type out the same thoughts. I think it's largely just from the angry undercurrent that's taken over most fandoms. Nothing is good enough. I don't think if the original came out now it would be safe from the badgering! Imo
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:19:36 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:19:36 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 08:12:54 PMI credit spoilers and trailers with letting me know if I should just stay at home and eat ice cream.Can you find my "it's giving shitty midquel vibes".
And right now it's looking like another ice cream party is in my future.
Spoiler
And I cannot stress this enough but f**k this movie if they're bringing back Holm.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:21:53 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 08:12:54 PMI credit spoilers and trailers with letting me know if I should just stay at home and eat ice cream.
And right now it's looking like another ice cream party is in my future.
I scream, you scream, we All scream for ice cream, but scream not working because space make deaf.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:26:10 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:26:10 PM
It's fascinating to me how differently people can react to the same information. I read all this and it added to my excitement, others are acting like fede Alvarez has killed everyone's dog. If it sucks it sucks, I'll deal with it the way I did with covenant lol
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 13, 2024, 08:27:21 PM
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 13, 2024, 08:27:21 PM
I was dying for juicy spoilers Well done.
:) 👍
:) 👍
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:27:35 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:27:35 PM
The story is whatever. Fede will probably make it tense.
Spoiler
But let the dead rest in peace for god's sake.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 08:27:40 PM
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 08:27:40 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 13, 2024, 07:58:30 PMI just saw the stuff about the premise, which I am already angry about getting spoiled on honestly, saw something about aas well? I hope not, I find that really distasteful, in pretty much every respect itself.Spoiler
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So time for a media blackout on Romulus if more got leaked. See ya in a few guys.
It's one of the biggest red flags for me. I'm not into Trojan horsing AI into film making knowing full well the damage it's doing to the overall entertainment industry. Workers in the field already get the shit end of the stick and investors are doing their best to integrate AI to outright eliminating an entire work force just to satisfy their bottom line AND stealing their hard work with that. Additionally puppeteering a dead actor just opens another Pandora's box of exploitation that the world does not need, I don't even know if I can go see the film anymore.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:30:01 PM
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:30:01 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:05:41 PMWe have many words in Argentina for people who criticise and doesn't like anything like in this case...Quote from: MaineXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 08:02:54 PMSpoiler
What the hell are some of these takes on the leaks lmao. I've seen people mad that Big Chap can survive in space, like seriously we've seen that since the first movie and it's been shown in games and comics. Also people are mad that he is found to begin with saying it's unrealistic. Well that can also apply to Ripley and The Nostromo black box in Isolation.[close]
You saved me having to type out the same thoughts. I think it's largely just from the angry undercurrent that's taken over most fandoms. Nothing is good enough. I don't think if the original came out now it would be safe from the badgering! Imo
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 08:30:42 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 08:30:42 PM
Mr. H told me to f**k off. I guess I've made it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:32:50 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:32:50 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 08:30:42 PMMr. H told me to f**k off. I guess I've made it.
I used to really like his videos a few years ago, but then he got so deep into the weeds of hating most things and being political that it just became exhausting to listen to.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:34:28 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:34:28 PM
Yeah, he's draining.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 08:34:54 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 08:34:54 PM
You can see what I have to say to him in the comments section of his latest video if anyone is curious...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:37:41 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:21:53 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 08:12:54 PMI credit spoilers and trailers with letting me know if I should just stay at home and eat ice cream.
And right now it's looking like another ice cream party is in my future.
I scream, you scream, we All scream for ice cream, but scream not working because space make deaf.
In space, no one will have ice cream
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:38:04 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:38:04 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 08:34:54 PMYou can see what I have to say to him in the comments section of his latest video if anyone is curious...There's like 280 comments, just screenshot it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 13, 2024, 08:39:55 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 13, 2024, 08:39:55 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:27:35 PMThe story is whatever. Fede will probably make it tense.Spoiler
But let the dead rest in peace for god's sake.[close]
This.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 08:41:38 PM
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 08:41:38 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 08:34:54 PMYou can see what I have to say to him in the comments section of his latest video if anyone is curious...
@SiL
Quote@MrHReviews
14 minutes ago
It's clearly labelled, I don't stop any hype, people can watch the video it they want. f**k off.
Bro come one, he knows people will wanna see leaks, stop the cap with pretending to be all clean and mighty.
EDIT: So to be extra clear, he basically spoiled everything while other folks just did small doses here and there?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:42:53 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:42:53 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 08:27:40 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 13, 2024, 07:58:30 PMI just saw the stuff about the premise, which I am already angry about getting spoiled on honestly, saw something about aas well? I hope not, I find that really distasteful, in pretty much every respect itself.Spoiler
deepfake Ash[close]
So time for a media blackout on Romulus if more got leaked. See ya in a few guys.
It's one of the biggest red flags for me. I'm not into Trojan horsing AI into film making knowing full well the damage it's doing to the overall entertainment industry. Workers in the field already get the shit end of the stick and investors are doing their best to integrate AI to outright eliminating an entire work force just to satisfy their bottom line AND stealing their hard work with that. Additionally puppeteering a dead actor just opens another Pandora's box of exploitation that the world does not need, I don't even know if I can go see the film anymore.
Reminds me of that Treehouse of Horror segment where Homer gets a job killing celebrities so greedy execs can use their likenesses as they please
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:43:57 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:43:57 PM
As long as the family of the deceased is getting some kind of check for likenesses being used I'm fine with it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 13, 2024, 08:45:12 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 13, 2024, 08:45:12 PM
It's literally necromancy.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Bonesaw on Mar 13, 2024, 08:45:49 PM
Post by: Bonesaw on Mar 13, 2024, 08:45:49 PM
I've only read the news article, i havent watched the video. I dont think the news article has really spoiled anything other than a basic premise imo. Does the video contain alot more spoilers then?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:46:45 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:46:45 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:43:57 PMAs long as the family of the deceased is getting some kind of check for likenesses being used I'm fine with it.
I'm sorry but "family gets paid for it" doesn't really justify it for me
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:47:17 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:47:17 PM
It's Weekend at Bernie's. At least Necromancy brings you back to some kind of life.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:48:48 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:48:48 PM
The real people to blame for the spoilers isn't mr h. It's the ppl who go to the test screenings where they're asked not to talk about what they saw but then go online immediately and do it anyway.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:48:55 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:48:55 PM
Rogue One did it with Tarkin. I don't mind really. It depends on the context and execution. I'm guessing it's just the cameo.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: RidgeTop on Mar 13, 2024, 08:49:16 PM
Post by: RidgeTop on Mar 13, 2024, 08:49:16 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2024, 07:30:33 PMDo folk not want us to cover leaks and such? Or provide context to the leaks? It's what we've spent the last 20 something years doing. Everyone is given very explicit warnings about not reading on if they don't want to be spoiled. Should we have not shared our own scoop at all? I feel like this is a very lose-lose situation for me here.
I'm also torn about it. It's nice to be able to break news before... some other places do. But I personally am trying (seemingly increasingly futilely) to avoid spoilers. Haven't even read this thread or the entirety of Aaron's news posts. Naturally I've had the opportunity to have the entire plot spilled to me, but I really enjoyed going into Prey mostly blind. Both with Alien: Covenant and The Predator I pretty much knew everything so Prey was exceptionally refreshing.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:49:34 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:49:34 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:48:55 PMRogue One did it with Tarkin.And it was gross then.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 08:50:48 PM
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 08:50:48 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:46:45 PMLet's not forget that the entertainment industry has history of family members exploiting the stars so that's just another avenue of exploitation right there. We don't need to feed that.Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 08:43:57 PMAs long as the family of the deceased is getting some kind of check for likenesses being used I'm fine with it.
I'm sorry but "family gets paid for it" doesn't really justify it for me
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:51:36 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:51:36 PM
I didn't find it gross. At the end it's not about an actor but the character. It's not like Ian Holm is coming back. It's Ash who is.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 13, 2024, 08:52:17 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 13, 2024, 08:52:17 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:47:17 PMIt's Weekend at Bernie's. At least Necromancy brings you back to some kind of life.
I was thinking of an overly specific fantasy setting when I said that (in which most of the raised dead are souless puppets with no trace of the former owner beyond their likeness), so fair play that the general usage is a bit different.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:53:10 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:53:10 PM
Is it that hard to cast another actor to play a creepy android ?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:54:25 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:54:25 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:51:36 PMI didn't find it gross. At the end it's not about an actor but the character. It's not like Ian Holm is coming back. It's Ash who is.Using Ian Holm's likeness. If it's "just the character", hire someone else to play it.
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:53:10 PMIs it that hard to cast another actor to play a creepy android ?Does it even make sense that the entire model line looks the same when he was clearly meant to be unknown to the crew?
"Ever notice our science officer looks like an Android?"
"Probably just a coincidence."
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 13, 2024, 08:55:47 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 13, 2024, 08:55:47 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:54:25 PMDoes it even make sense that the entire model line looks the same when he was clearly meant to be unknown to the crew?
"Ever notice our science officer looks like an Android?"
"Probably just a coincidence."
Yeah holy shit, the news was so off-putting that I hadn't even clicked to that yet.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Fake Fans! on Mar 13, 2024, 08:56:37 PM
Post by: Fake Fans! on Mar 13, 2024, 08:56:37 PM
So f**king lame dude. The amount of work that goes into these films is insane. Multiple years of blood sweat and tears to bring these films to the screen. Convincing the studio execs to open their wallets and try and breath some life into the franchise.... and the fact that in this day and age, you pathetic fake ass fans can just blast the internet with spoilers is so dumb. For what,... views? You think you're a Aliens fans? You're doing a huge disservice to the fans, to the people who worked on this film, and the whole franchise. And then some of you sell merch on the back of all this? How do you not realize that you're ruining the magic of these films for everyone.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 08:57:08 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 08:57:08 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:54:25 PMDoes it even make sense that the entire model line looks the same when he was clearly meant to be unknown to the crew?
"Ever notice our science officer looks like an Android?"
"Probably just a coincidence."
No. It doesn't. Especially when other Hyperdyne 120/A2 synths have been shown with distinctive appearances.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 08:58:01 PM
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 08:58:01 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:53:10 PMIs it that hard to cast another actor to play a creepy android ?Exactly! We don't need Ash, we can have another actor and character entirely without a exploitative and limp dick attempt at nostalgia baiting. Can we not have another android model and say that this is the V3.0 model or something?
Of course not, it's cheaper to use a dead actor than hiring a new one. It's all about exploitation to gain the most for the bottom line. This is the point of integrating AI into the workforce, not to make things easier for the workers but to eliminate them entirely to save a buck for those on top. I ain't with that.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:58:12 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 08:57:08 PMNo. It doesn't. Especially when other Hyperdyne 120/A2 synths have been shown with distinctive appearances.For once I'm glad for your EU input.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:58:32 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:58:32 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:54:25 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:51:36 PMI didn't find it gross. At the end it's not about an actor but the character. It's not like Ian Holm is coming back. It's Ash who is.Using Ian Holm's likeness. If it's "just the character", hire someone else to play it.
Don't get me wrong. I would rather have someone else to portray Ash than "resurrecting" Holm's likeness. I just don't find it gross. I'm sort of indifferent to it as long as its execution is minimal.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 08:59:50 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 08:59:50 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:54:25 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:51:36 PMI didn't find it gross. At the end it's not about an actor but the character. It's not like Ian Holm is coming back. It's Ash who is.Using Ian Holm's likeness. If it's "just the character", hire someone else to play it.Quote from: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:53:10 PMIs it that hard to cast another actor to play a creepy android ?Does it even make sense that the entire model line looks the same when he was clearly meant to be unknown to the crew?
"Ever notice our science officer looks like an Android?"
"Probably just a coincidence."
Mmm didn't think about that. That's a valid point. Ok I'm sure I don't like the idea now.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:00:28 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:00:28 PM
Yeah, it sounds weird. Are these leaks legit? :)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 09:01:10 PM
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 09:01:10 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:58:32 PMHow can it be minimal when it's the entire character? It's straight up the character of Ash, using the face and voice of a dead actor using AI in the process.Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 08:54:25 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 08:51:36 PMI didn't find it gross. At the end it's not about an actor but the character. It's not like Ian Holm is coming back. It's Ash who is.Using Ian Holm's likeness. If it's "just the character", hire someone else to play it.
Don't get me wrong. I would rather have someone else to portray Ash than "resurrecting" Holm's likeness. I just don't find it gross. I'm sort of indifferent to it as long as its execution is minimal.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 09:02:51 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 09:02:51 PM
I guess it still could be explained by the fact this model of synthetic isn't used in a very known and broad manner, thus remaining unknown to the Nostromo crew. But that's a big stretch.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 13, 2024, 09:04:39 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 13, 2024, 09:04:39 PM
So, I haven't and won't be watching any of the videos or reading the inevitable articles/threads discussing the minutiae, but the reveals that Hicks et al have covered are really shitting me. On the one hand, the premise seems to be exactly my jam, then on the other, they go and do something that's simultaneously cheesy, in poor taste and totally unnecessary.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:06:28 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:06:28 PM
I'm also dreading an inevitable "the new bigger badder Alien kills the old Alien to show how big and bad it is" scene.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:09:18 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:09:18 PM
QuoteNamed Rook, this new synthetic character features the likeness and voice of the late Sir Ian Holm which Alien vs. Predator Galaxy understands is augmented by AI.
I'm guessing Rook won't look exactly the same like Ash.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 13, 2024, 09:10:45 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 13, 2024, 09:10:45 PM
I think the only thing that bothers me is the .
I don't know any character deaths so there are some suprises left. I just hope its well executed and somebody geton board for reshoots.
Spoiler
Ian Holm return
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I don't know any character deaths so there are some suprises left. I just hope its well executed and somebody get
Spoiler
Martin Freeman
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:11:33 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:09:18 PM"Features the likeness" means it will look like Ian Holm. Probably different clothes.QuoteNamed Rook, this new synthetic character features the likeness and voice of the late Sir Ian Holm which Alien vs. Predator Galaxy understands is augmented by AI.
I'm guessing Rook won't look exactly the same like Ash.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:13:12 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:13:12 PM
Hmm I must say I don't like the idea of Ash coming back. Big Chap is coming (sort of) back, Ash is. What's the point?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:16:29 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:16:29 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:13:12 PMHmm I must say I don't like the idea of Ash coming back. Big Chap is coming (sort of) back, Ash is. What's the point?"Hey remember that movie? So do we!"
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 09:16:37 PM
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:09:18 PMQuoteNamed Rook, this new synthetic character features the likeness and voice of the late Sir Ian Holm which Alien vs. Predator Galaxy understands is augmented by AI.
I'm guessing Rook won't look exactly the same like Ash.
First glance it sounds like the T-800 route where it has Arnold's likeness but each one is an individual on each Terminator film as Skynet manufactures them from an assembly line...
HOWEVER the fact it still uses his voice via AI and physical appearance anyway is still going to be mostly using Sir Ian Holm than a completely new character. Rook is different as Ash as the first T-800 is different from the second T-800 in the Terminator films, it's still Arnold portraying them.
At that point they should have just gotten a new actor. Just stop nostalgia bating and exploiting studio higher ups, its not hard to ask but then again it means spending money that they wanna use to buy a new yacht or something.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:25:22 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:25:22 PM
It would make more sense to be an early Bishop. At least Lance Henriksen is still alive and can consent to it.
And Bishops were apparently all over the place by the time of Aliens. Unless we're to believe that Burke had spent time hanging out with Sulaco-Bishop in the past for some contrived reason ("I thought you never missed, Bishop.").
If you've met one Bishop, you've met them all.
And Bishops were apparently all over the place by the time of Aliens. Unless we're to believe that Burke had spent time hanging out with Sulaco-Bishop in the past for some contrived reason ("I thought you never missed, Bishop.").
If you've met one Bishop, you've met them all.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:26:08 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:26:08 PM
Also means having an original thought rather than just slapping together a pastiche from existing EU.
This "casting" decision has really put me off the film. I'm not even sure I'm going to bother watching it.
This "casting" decision has really put me off the film. I'm not even sure I'm going to bother watching it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:27:13 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:27:13 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:26:08 PMI'm not even sure I'm going to bother watching it.
That's the spirit!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 09:27:35 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:25:22 PMIt would make more sense to be an early Bishop. At least Lance Henriksen is still alive and can consent to it.
Michael Bishop wouldn't even have been born yet, so I don't think so.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:29:02 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 09:27:35 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:25:22 PMIt would make more sense to be an early Bishop. At least Lance Henriksen is still alive and can consent to it.
Michael Bishop wouldn't even have been born yet, so I don't think so.
How do you know? When exactly does this travesty take place?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:29:55 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:29:55 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:29:02 PMImmediately after the first film.Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 09:27:35 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:25:22 PMIt would make more sense to be an early Bishop. At least Lance Henriksen is still alive and can consent to it.
Michael Bishop wouldn't even have been born yet, so I don't think so.
How do you know? When exactly does this travesty take place?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 09:30:01 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 09:30:01 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:29:02 PMHow do you know? When exactly does this travesty take place?
Shortly after A1.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:30:15 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:30:15 PM
I will say I've always wondered about what happened to the alien after being jettisoned into space, so this really scratches an itch for me.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:30:50 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:30:50 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 09:30:01 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:29:02 PMHow do you know? When exactly does this travesty take place?
Shortly after A1.
Bleh
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:31:07 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:31:07 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:30:15 PMI will say I've always wondered about what happened to the alien after being jettisoned into space, so this really scratches an itch for me."It died " has worked pretty well for 45 years.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:31:49 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:31:49 PM
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 09:32:59 PM
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 09:32:59 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:30:15 PMI will say I've always wondered about what happened to the alien after being jettisoned into space, so this really scratches an itch for me.I never saw this story point as a bad thing. I mean at this point it's solid evidence that xenos can survive sub zero temperatures. It's just funny how it can tank jet fuel burns but is scared of flamethrower fire and can even die from it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:34:03 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:34:03 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:26:08 PMThis "casting" decision has really put me off the film. I'm not even sure I'm going to bother watching it.
I hope it's just a cameo (including Big Chap).
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:34:19 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:34:19 PM
I can understand that pov, but I guess I just always assumed it was living w miserable existence in the vaccum of space because i figured it couldn't die from the elements. Too me that was part of the perfect organism. I thought the queen was still out there kicking it too after aliens.
Btw the tone of your message isn't lost on me. I know your mad at me for my opinion.
Btw the tone of your message isn't lost on me. I know your mad at me for my opinion.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:35:07 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:34:19 PMI know your mad at me for my opinion.
I don't know about him, but I sure am! >:(
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:36:41 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:36:41 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:34:19 PMBtw the tone of your message isn't lost on me. I know your mad at me for my opinion.Who? Why would anyone be mad?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:37:27 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:37:27 PM
I really hope Romulus won't be nail in the coffin for Alien movies.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 09:38:00 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 09:38:00 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:34:19 PMBtw the tone of your message isn't lost on me. I know your mad at me for my opinion.
Who exactly are you addressing here?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:39:02 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:39:02 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 13, 2024, 09:38:00 PMQuote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:34:19 PMBtw the tone of your message isn't lost on me. I know your mad at me for my opinion.
Who exactly are you addressing here?
Sil. I was replying in the comment section and didn't realize it wouldn't include the quote.
I'm regreting saying it though because I'm prob just being sensitive lol
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 09:39:21 PM
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 09:39:21 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:27:13 PMSo don't watch the movie and that's all 🤷 but then don't come here to throw hate to a movie that no one of us as watched anything not even an teaser (except for Mike). I don't wanna be harsh but it's annoying that just for a leak you guys are already bringing it down the movie, sometimes I think we Alien fans deserve all the shitty content because comment's like this. I still think that Fede it's a very capable director and can bring a fresh air to the franchise after all the bad entries (despite I like Covenant)Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:26:08 PMI'm not even sure I'm going to bother watching it.
That's the spirit!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:39:43 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:37:27 PMI really hope Romulus won't be nail in the coffin for Alien movies.
That coffin is practically sealed in concrete by now. One more nail ain't gonna hurt it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:40:50 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:40:50 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:37:27 PMI really hope Romulus won't be nail in the coffin for Alien movies.
I think it'll give it a shot in the arm and reinvigorate it like Prey did for the predator franchise.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:41:22 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 09:41:22 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:39:02 PMI'm regreting saying it though because I'm prob just being sensitive lol
Nobody's mad at you. you have the right to your own opinion :)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 09:42:11 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 09:42:11 PM
I think audiences are going to eat this one up. The fans on the other hand... I'm seeing the exact reactions I thought I'd see after I watched it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Stitch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:43:13 PM
Post by: Stitch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 09:42:11 PMI think audiences are going to eat this one up. The fans on the other hand... I'm seeing the exact reactions I thought I'd see after I watched it.But you liked it, right? So we shouldn't have too much to worry about?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:43:59 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:43:59 PM
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 09:39:21 PMSo don't watch the movie and that's all 🤷 but then don't come here to throw hate to a movie that no one of us as watched anything not even an teaser (except for Mike).
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:46:26 PM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:46:26 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 09:42:11 PMI think audiences are going to eat this one up. The fans on the other hand... I'm seeing the exact reactions I thought I'd see after I watched it.
Your video just happened to show up on my YouTube feed. Subscribed!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 09:47:21 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 13, 2024, 09:47:21 PM
I'm confident Alvarez has made a very good movie from a film standpoint. From a lore standpoint, I don't know. Too early to tell, but he did take some risks for sure.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 09:47:33 PM
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 09:39:21 PMI will add something that many people forgot, when we had the confirmation of Amanda Ripley being the protagonist of Alien Isolation everyone was throwing sh*t to the game already without playing it. Now everyone loves it.Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:27:13 PMSo don't watch the movie and that's all 🤷 but then don't come here to throw hate to a movie that no one of us as watched anything not even an teaser (except for Mike). I don't wanna be harsh but it's annoying that just for a leak you guys are already bringing it down the movie, sometimes I think we Alien fans deserve all the shitty content because comment's like this. I still think that Fede it's a very capable director and can bring a fresh air to the franchise after all the bad entries (despite I like Covenant)Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:26:08 PMI'm not even sure I'm going to bother watching it.
That's the spirit!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:49:15 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 09:47:33 PMI will add something that many people forgot, when we had the confirmation of Amanda Ripley being the protagonist of Alien Isolation everyone was throwing sh*t to the game already without playing it. Now everyone loves it.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 12, 2022, 09:42:24 PMIt's like putting together Ikea furniture.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:56:50 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:56:50 PM
The plot is whatever.
The marionetting a corpse, no.
The marionetting a corpse, no.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 10:00:08 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 10:00:08 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:43:13 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 09:42:11 PMI think audiences are going to eat this one up. The fans on the other hand... I'm seeing the exact reactions I thought I'd see after I watched it.But you liked it, right? So we shouldn't have too much to worry about?
I want to see the final cut before I say if I did or not. There were too many unfinished effects that took me out at times, even though I'm able to see past them. Plus, I want to see they changed anything that may sway my thoughts too. I did enjoy the mood it set, and the visuals. I'd say give the movie a chance, even if the plot is throwing you off a bit.
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:46:26 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 09:42:11 PMI think audiences are going to eat this one up. The fans on the other hand... I'm seeing the exact reactions I thought I'd see after I watched it.
Your video just happened to show up on my YouTube feed. Subscribed!
That is so cool to hear! You're the first to ever tell me that's happened. Thank you!!!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 10:00:45 PM
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 10:00:45 PM
I know little of the spoilers besides of 3 things and I don't plan on looking at it more, which conflicts with me further as I want to see the film but not down to give any support to puppeteering a dead man's legacy.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Dachande on Mar 13, 2024, 10:02:52 PM
Post by: Dachande on Mar 13, 2024, 10:02:52 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 10:00:08 PMQuote from: Stitch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:43:13 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 09:42:11 PMI think audiences are going to eat this one up. The fans on the other hand... I'm seeing the exact reactions I thought I'd see after I watched it.But you liked it, right? So we shouldn't have too much to worry about?
I want to see the final cut before I say if I did or not. There were too many unfinished effects that took me out at times, even though I'm able to see past them. Plus, I want to see they changed anything that may sway my thoughts too. I did enjoy the mood it set, and the visuals. I'd say give the movie a chance, even if the plot is throwing you off a bit.Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 13, 2024, 09:46:26 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 09:42:11 PMI think audiences are going to eat this one up. The fans on the other hand... I'm seeing the exact reactions I thought I'd see after I watched it.
Your video just happened to show up on my YouTube feed. Subscribed!
That is so cool to hear! You're the first to ever tell me that's happened. Thank you!!!
I bet Mike's most looking forward to all the new potential alien figures he can photograph!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 10:06:18 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 10:06:18 PM
There are some wicked shots of the new design that I can't wait to recreate in toy photography. I've been itching for months!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 10:10:24 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 10:10:24 PM
At least something good can come out of this.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Prince on Mar 13, 2024, 10:10:30 PM
Post by: Prince on Mar 13, 2024, 10:10:30 PM
I'm still looking forward to the movie even though the leaks, both in the manner with which they've come out and what certain details entail within the movie, have been somewhat disappointing.
The news of Ian Holm's coming back in AI/CGI form is, in my view, poor taste and it continues my pessimistic view regarding all things AI/CGI and how the film industry will continue to use and abuse this software to the detriment of actors and artists across the board.
The news of Ian Holm's coming back in AI/CGI form is, in my view, poor taste and it continues my pessimistic view regarding all things AI/CGI and how the film industry will continue to use and abuse this software to the detriment of actors and artists across the board.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 10:11:42 PM
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 13, 2024, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 13, 2024, 10:06:18 PMThere are some wicked shots of the new design that I can't wait to recreate in toy photography. I've been itching for months!I'm already saving money to buy the eventual Steelbook bluray and some Neca figures 😂
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: P1NK8C1DBOOTS on Mar 13, 2024, 10:22:11 PM
Post by: P1NK8C1DBOOTS on Mar 13, 2024, 10:22:11 PM
This is interesting stuff to read! I'm intrigued to see where this film goes! Can't wait for a trailer 👍
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 10:39:48 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 10:39:48 PM
bishops rooks ....will we have a queen, pawn and a king as well?
allmost sounds like the vatican. which is in romulus ..sorry rome.
will we have a someone playing a violin while everything is going up in smoke?
lol
seriously though: how good is the story going to be?
allmost sounds like the vatican. which is in romulus ..sorry rome.
will we have a someone playing a violin while everything is going up in smoke?
lol
seriously though: how good is the story going to be?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Mar 13, 2024, 10:59:20 PM
Post by: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Mar 13, 2024, 10:59:20 PM
no ones made a Somehow Kane's Son has Returned meme
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 11:01:55 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 11:01:55 PM
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Mar 13, 2024, 10:59:20 PMno ones made a Somehow Kane's Son has Returned meme
Speaking of Kane, maybe they should have retrieved his corpse only to discover that it morphed into an egg.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: solace97 on Mar 13, 2024, 11:18:26 PM
Post by: solace97 on Mar 13, 2024, 11:18:26 PM
That's my only red flag with this aside from how they pull the humanoid off. The odds of finding a floating big chap alive in space when the nostromo was in a relatively unknown region makes the likelihood very unbelievable. But I'm willing to look past it if given a good reason and the movie is executed properly
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 11:22:22 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 11:22:22 PM
Nothing about any of this indicates the writing is particularly fantastic. It's all going to boil down to how well Fede directs it to make you not care.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Mar 13, 2024, 11:29:52 PM
Post by: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Mar 13, 2024, 11:29:52 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 11:01:55 PMno none of thatQuote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Mar 13, 2024, 10:59:20 PMno ones made a Somehow Kane's Son has Returned meme
Speaking of Kane, maybe they should have retrieved his corpse only to discover that it morphed into an egg.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 11:31:30 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 11:31:30 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 11:22:22 PMNothing about any of this indicates the writing is particularly fantastic. It's all going to boil down to how well Fede directs it to make you not care.
Are you as pessimistic about this as you are about the Hawley show?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 11:44:58 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 11:44:58 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 11:31:30 PMAre you as pessimistic about this as you are about the Hawley show?At least I know there's Aliens in this one so...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 13, 2024, 11:46:45 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 13, 2024, 11:46:45 PM
Hopefully Fede can pull it off, starting to get some creeping dread though.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 11:47:53 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 11:47:53 PM
in my case i am afraid to be optimistic. how much attention was given to the story?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: David Weyland on Mar 13, 2024, 11:48:03 PM
Post by: David Weyland on Mar 13, 2024, 11:48:03 PM
I just hope it's not as it could be as it sounds, in some description cartoonish or cheapens the efforts of the story arc to the original trilogy
The prequel connection is intriguing in that I think it kind of provokes a domain.
Regardless, rubbish film or not- The most important thing to me is Continuity, not always clear in this franchise but still somewhat intact.
Think it will be ok but it'd be a shame for Disney to kill plausibility just for bums on seats
The prequel connection is intriguing in that I think it kind of provokes a domain.
Regardless, rubbish film or not- The most important thing to me is Continuity, not always clear in this franchise but still somewhat intact.
Think it will be ok but it'd be a shame for Disney to kill plausibility just for bums on seats
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 14, 2024, 12:14:01 AM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 14, 2024, 12:14:01 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Mar 13, 2024, 11:47:53 PMin my case i am afraid to be optimistic. how much attention was given to the story?
What's the worst that could happen from being optimistic? You could enjoy the time leading up to the movie and IF it ends up sucking, oh well! 🤷�♂️
And I say that as someone who got all excited for covenant and was thoroughly let down, same with The Predator. Even tho I hate those movies for the most part I still find some things in them to like. lol
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 14, 2024, 12:29:59 AM
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 14, 2024, 12:29:59 AM
It is a pipe dream but I will say it here anyway.
Fede Alvarez,
if you are reading this- get rid of the Ash connection in this film, not only does it not make any sense with the true nature of Ash being an unknown to the crew of Nostromo, but it is also outright immoral to use the likeness of a dead individual. Alien IS better than this and you are as well.
Fede Alvarez,
if you are reading this- get rid of the Ash connection in this film, not only does it not make any sense with the true nature of Ash being an unknown to the crew of Nostromo, but it is also outright immoral to use the likeness of a dead individual. Alien IS better than this and you are as well.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 12:31:15 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 12:31:15 AM
If they can unf**k Sonic they can de-Holm Rook.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 12:36:30 AM
Post by: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 12:36:30 AM
This is all very EU sounding but hell... I loved that stuff so I'm all for it. Bring it on.
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Post by: MaineXeno on Mar 14, 2024, 01:06:02 AM
Post by: MaineXeno on Mar 14, 2024, 01:06:02 AM
Is it too far fetched to maybe think ash wasn't a commercial model hence why the crew didn't figure out he was a robot? Like come on the two cases of this model as far as I know is the first movie and now on a secret Weyland-Yutani black site. I don't really see a problem with the usage of AI for him. Why? Because it seems like we won't really see much of him and that he's severely damaged, at least that's what Mr. H's video seems to imply. What's the difference of his likeness (at least in physical appearance) being used here vs in Isolation? They used his likeness but didn't use his voice even though he was alive at the time. Is that wrong? What about when his likeness was used in a comic? Like I get Ai can be used for the wrong reasons but that doesn't make all usage of it wrong especially if they were giving permission from the family
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 01:49:30 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 01:49:30 AM
There's a difference between merchandise and marrionetting a corpse to give a performance.
They're trying to make it look like the late Ian Holm has given a performance in their film through the use of effects. He couldn't agree to participate in this movie. He might not have wanted to be in this movie. He might not have made the performance decisions they've made for him in this movie.
Everything about it is gross and unethical.
They're trying to make it look like the late Ian Holm has given a performance in their film through the use of effects. He couldn't agree to participate in this movie. He might not have wanted to be in this movie. He might not have made the performance decisions they've made for him in this movie.
Everything about it is gross and unethical.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 02:18:42 AM
Post by: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 02:18:42 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 01:49:30 AMThere's a difference between merchandise and marrionetting a corpse to give a performance.
They're trying to make it look like the late Ian Holm has given a performance in their film through the use of effects. He couldn't agree to participate in this movie. He might not have wanted to be in this movie. He might not have made the performance decisions they've made for him in this movie.
Everything about it is gross and unethical.
Fair points @SiL. It does raise some big ethical questions. The same could be said of Peter Cushing to a lesser extent in Rogue One or even Carrie Fischer too. Though it was real unused footage of her used in TROS mind. Both established characters too.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 02:26:29 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 02:26:29 AM
Quote from: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 02:18:42 AMFair points @SiL. It does raise some big ethical questions. The same could be said of Peter Cushing to a lesser extent in Rogue One or even Carrie Fischer too. Though it was real unused footage of her used in TROS mind. Both established characters too.I've made the same argument for Cushing in R1. Fisher was alive to grant permission.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 02:32:26 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 02:32:26 AM
My moral flexibility enables me to overlook Cushing in R1 since it made sense, although the execution left a lot to be desired. I thought Fisher's "cameo" was both unnecessary and badly executed though.
But this? My hypocrisy only goes so far.
But this? My hypocrisy only goes so far.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 02:34:29 AM
Post by: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 02:34:29 AM
I'll caveat by saying let me first see where this goes and how this character plays out.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 02:35:54 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 02:35:54 AM
Whether it makes sense to have a character reappear is entirely besides the point. The actor is dead and did not agree to appear in this movie.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 02:37:12 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 02:37:12 AM
Quote from: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 02:34:29 AMI'll caveat by saying let me first see where this goes and how this character plays out.
If a badly executed Ian Holm deepfake means you'll finally say that thing I've been waiting for you to say, it'll be worth it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 02:38:00 AM
Post by: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 02:38:00 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 02:37:12 AMQuote from: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 02:34:29 AMI'll caveat by saying let me first see where this goes and how this character plays out.
If a badly executed Ian Holm deepfake means you'll finally say that thing I've been waiting for you to say, it'll be worth it.
Hahaha. Maybe. MAYBE!!! FINALLY!!!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 02:39:19 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 02:39:19 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 02:35:54 AMWhether it makes sense to have a character reappear is entirely besides the point. The actor is dead and did not agree to appear in this movie.
That's where my moral flexibility comes in handy.
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Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:40:18 AM
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:40:18 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:24:01 PMThe Alien was always meant to be the "perfect" organism. Even Ash said "You can't kill it". It wasn't blown apart by the Narcissus engines firing, only pushed away. Cameron is the one who turned them into bugs and cannon fodder. Of course it can survive in space. It doesn't need to breathe or eat. All that crap was added later.Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 13, 2024, 04:13:29 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:10:43 PMQuote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 03:46:17 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 03:43:37 PMAlso, how did they f**king find it floating in the vast ocean of space?
That's gonna need one helluva explanation...
They'll skip that part :)
But do they really need to explain it though?
It's suposed to be the perfect organism, so surviving in outer space seems right up its alley.
Not to mention, that Isolation already showed us the Xenomorph surviving in outer space.
I was referring to someone finding it floating in the vast ocean of space.
Also, perfect organism is just a label. Such a thing like perfect organism doesn't exist. How could it survive floating in the vacuum of cosmos where nothing was around?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 02:42:11 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 02:42:11 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 19, 2019, 01:06:47 AMO'Bannon never wanted the Alien to be invincible, so they needed a reason the crew can't just shoot it and Ron Cobb suggested acid blood.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Aliendong on Mar 14, 2024, 02:44:33 AM
Post by: Aliendong on Mar 14, 2024, 02:44:33 AM
So Big Chap is part Water Bear?
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 02:56:16 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 02:56:16 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:40:18 AMThe Alien was always meant to be the "perfect" organism. Even Ash said "You can't kill it". It wasn't blown apart by the Narcissus engines firing, only pushed away. Cameron is the one who turned them into bugs and cannon fodder. Of course it can survive in space. It doesn't need to breathe or eat. All that crap was added later.O'Bannon would cringe reading this. He explicitly didn't want it to be invincible. That's why it has acid blood.
It was also scripted to explode after being hit by the rocket engines; the only reason it didn't was effects.
Cameron didn't add anything in that regard, he just followed through with what was intended.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 02:57:19 AM
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 02:57:19 AM
If they really needed a Ash stand in, why wouldn't they just use a skinless Seegson/crispy flamethrower synthetic and get a voice actor to do a Ian Holm impression and garble it under a voice filter.. But really, who is asking for more Ash?? (Well I know one person who was and probably got this movie greenlit because of it lmao) I thought the novel he returned in was taking the piss and seems like the movie is as well.
But tbh I don't really care. Everything else sounds rad and if I could move past Tarkin I'm sure I can move pass this. A creative swing and a miss.
I doubt Obannon would care, nothing leaked indicates Big Chap is invincible. We don't even know if it's alive by the time the movie starts. Just going off what we learn in the first film, it seems totally plausible that biology of the xeno would allow it to survive in space.
Maybe that was the original intention in the script, but that's not what happened on screen. So much stuff changes when translating from the page to the screen, it's never been the precedent to use the script as the canon version of events so not sure why that would start now.
But tbh I don't really care. Everything else sounds rad and if I could move past Tarkin I'm sure I can move pass this. A creative swing and a miss.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 02:56:16 AMQuote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:40:18 AMThe Alien was always meant to be the "perfect" organism. Even Ash said "You can't kill it". It wasn't blown apart by the Narcissus engines firing, only pushed away. Cameron is the one who turned them into bugs and cannon fodder. Of course it can survive in space. It doesn't need to breathe or eat. All that crap was added later.O'Bannon would cringe reading this. He explicitly didn't want it to be invincible. That's why it has acid blood.
It was also scripted to explode after being hit by the rocket engines; the only reason it didn't was effects.
Cameron didn't add anything in that regard, he just followed through with what was intended.
I doubt Obannon would care, nothing leaked indicates Big Chap is invincible. We don't even know if it's alive by the time the movie starts. Just going off what we learn in the first film, it seems totally plausible that biology of the xeno would allow it to survive in space.
Maybe that was the original intention in the script, but that's not what happened on screen. So much stuff changes when translating from the page to the screen, it's never been the precedent to use the script as the canon version of events so not sure why that would start now.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:11:38 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:11:38 AM
I think you've misread what I said in reply to Sabres. My point is that the Alien was never intended to be invincible, and that Cameron didn't suddenly make them more vulnerable. The Nostromo crew had weapons; they don't use them because of the acid blood. If they'd shot the thing, it would've died.
I'm making no comment on what may or may not happen in Romulus because I haven't seen it.
I'm making no comment on what may or may not happen in Romulus because I haven't seen it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 03:18:54 AM
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 03:18:54 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:11:38 AMI think you've misread what I said in reply to Sabres. My point is that the Alien was never intended to be invincible, and that Cameron didn't suddenly make them more vulnerable. The Nostromo crew had weapons; they don't use them because of the acid blood. If they'd shot the thing, it would've died.Ahh gotcha! I misread that
I'm making no comment on what may or may not happen in Romulus because I haven't seen it.
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Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:28:18 AM
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:28:18 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 02:56:16 AMYou have your opinion and I have mine.Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:40:18 AMThe Alien was always meant to be the "perfect" organism. Even Ash said "You can't kill it". It wasn't blown apart by the Narcissus engines firing, only pushed away. Cameron is the one who turned them into bugs and cannon fodder. Of course it can survive in space. It doesn't need to breathe or eat. All that crap was added later.O'Bannon would cringe reading this. He explicitly didn't want it to be invincible. That's why it has acid blood.
It was also scripted to explode after being hit by the rocket engines; the only reason it didn't was effects.
Cameron didn't add anything in that regard, he just followed through with what was intended.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:29:17 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:29:17 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:28:18 AMOpinion doesn't factor into it; you're just wrong. The Alien was never meant to be invincible. This is well documented. Saying otherwise isn't a matter of opinion.Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 02:56:16 AMYou have your opinion and I have mine.Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:40:18 AMThe Alien was always meant to be the "perfect" organism. Even Ash said "You can't kill it". It wasn't blown apart by the Narcissus engines firing, only pushed away. Cameron is the one who turned them into bugs and cannon fodder. Of course it can survive in space. It doesn't need to breathe or eat. All that crap was added later.O'Bannon would cringe reading this. He explicitly didn't want it to be invincible. That's why it has acid blood.
It was also scripted to explode after being hit by the rocket engines; the only reason it didn't was effects.
Cameron didn't add anything in that regard, he just followed through with what was intended.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:30:58 AM
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:30:58 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:29:17 AMAgain, you think whatever you want, I don't particularly care. It's my opinion and I'm sticking with it.Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:28:18 AMOpinion doesn't factor into it; you're just wrong. The Alien was never meant to be invincible. This is well documented. Saying otherwise isn't a matter of opinion.Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 02:56:16 AMYou have your opinion and I have mine.Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:40:18 AMThe Alien was always meant to be the "perfect" organism. Even Ash said "You can't kill it". It wasn't blown apart by the Narcissus engines firing, only pushed away. Cameron is the one who turned them into bugs and cannon fodder. Of course it can survive in space. It doesn't need to breathe or eat. All that crap was added later.O'Bannon would cringe reading this. He explicitly didn't want it to be invincible. That's why it has acid blood.
It was also scripted to explode after being hit by the rocket engines; the only reason it didn't was effects.
Cameron didn't add anything in that regard, he just followed through with what was intended.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:32:30 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:32:30 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:30:58 AMAgain, you think whatever you want, I don't particularly care. It's my opinion and I'm sticking with it.It's not opinion when there are facts involved. You're objectively, demonstrably wrong.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:37:07 AM
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:37:07 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:32:30 AMAgain, I'm not concerned with what you think of my opinion. I've always found your responses to be a little too self righteous for my taste. Feel free to not respond.Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:30:58 AMAgain, you think whatever you want, I don't particularly care. It's my opinion and I'm sticking with it.It's not opinion when there are facts involved. You're objectively, demonstrably wrong.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 03:42:23 AM
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 03:42:23 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:37:07 AMQuote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:32:30 AMAgain, I'm not concerned with what you think of my opinion. I've always found your responses to be a little too self righteous for my taste. Feel free to not respond.Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:30:58 AMAgain, you think whatever you want, I don't particularly care. It's my opinion and I'm sticking with it.It's not opinion when there are facts involved. You're objectively, demonstrably wrong.
Seems like you're both just getting defensive over your own opinions. It's art, there's no objective way to view it. Neither of you are wrong or right so just move on guys, you clearly don't agree and that's okay.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 03:44:15 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 03:44:15 AM
I don't know why this is even a debate. I already quoted SM. That should be the end of it.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:46:24 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:46:24 AM
"The Alien was meant to be invincible and James Cameron changed that" is not an opinion, it is a statement that can be supported or contradicted with facts.
The facts are that the Alien was never meant to be invincible and James Cameron is not responsible for making them vulnerable.
Thinking otherwise is not a matter of opinion; it's just being wrong about something.
The facts are that the Alien was never meant to be invincible and James Cameron is not responsible for making them vulnerable.
Thinking otherwise is not a matter of opinion; it's just being wrong about something.
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Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 03:48:46 AM
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 03:48:46 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 03:44:15 AMI don't know why this is even a debate. I already quoted SM. That should be the end of it.
Lisan al gaib! He leads us to paradise
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:51:54 AM
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:51:54 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:46:24 AM"The Alien was meant to be invincible and James Cameron changed that" is not an opinion, it is a statement that can be supported or contradicted with facts.And yet, here we are with ol' Big Chap showing back up.
The facts are that the Alien was never meant to be invincible and James Cameron is not responsible for making them vulnerable.
Thinking otherwise is not a matter of opinion; it's just being wrong about something.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:54:15 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:54:15 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:51:54 AMAnd yet, here we are with ol' Big Chap showing back up.Which has exactly nothing to do with what the original filmmakers intended or what Cameron did.
Just say you prefer your Aliens tougher; that's an actual opinion.
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Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 03:55:54 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 03:55:54 AM
Is this about that media literacy thing you mentioned before?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 03:57:17 AM
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 03:57:17 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 03:46:24 AM"The Alien was meant to be invincible and James Cameron changed that" is not an opinion, it is a statement that can be supported or contradicted with facts.
The facts are that the Alien was never meant to be invincible and James Cameron is not responsible for making them vulnerable.
Thinking otherwise is not a matter of opinion; it's just being wrong about something.
An author's intent is one thing and should be considered but it's okay to have your own interpretation of a text as well. It's totally plausible for someone to interpret the Xenomorph as being invincible or unkillable going off the information the audience is given in the first film. You don't have to agree with them, but is it truely worth being so stuck on? Just move on.
We're looking at 20+ comments talking about this one tiny thing and I gotta be real guys it's not very interesting, whatever way you wanna spin it.
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Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:59:41 AM
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:59:41 AM
I'm much too old to argue with someone who seems to relish telling others how "wrong" they are.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 04:01:57 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 04:01:57 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:59:41 AMI'm much too old to argue with someone who seems to relish telling others how "wrong" they are.
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Post by: solace97 on Mar 14, 2024, 04:04:19 AM
Post by: solace97 on Mar 14, 2024, 04:04:19 AM
Yes a clash of two man's wills to get the other to cave in more...MORE!
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Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 04:05:24 AM
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 04:05:24 AM
Whatever happened to Gary Cooper? The strong, silent type.
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Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 04:05:44 AM
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 04:05:44 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 04:01:57 AMLOL...absolutely not. Trust me, I've been here long enough to see ALOT of it.Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 03:59:41 AMI'm much too old to argue with someone who seems to relish telling others how "wrong" they are.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 04:09:41 AM
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 04:09:41 AM
Anyways, if they're go down the black goo/mad scientist route - give us some fun variants for the love of god. We need more kenner/Aliens Infestation vibes, I don't want to see the millionth attempt at recreating the original drone or warrior only not as good. We have Alien and Aliens, I can see those designs whenever I want.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 04:10:52 AM
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 04:10:52 AM
Quote from: Scott Conover on Mar 14, 2024, 04:09:41 AMAnyways, if they're go down the black goo/mad scientist route - give us some fun variants for the love of god. We need more kenner/Aliens Infestation vibes, I don't want to see the millionth attempt at recreating the original drone or warrior only not as good. We have Alien and Aliens, I can see those designs whenever I want.Yep, that would be fun.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 05:24:24 AM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 05:24:24 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 09:27:13 PMQuote from: SiL on Mar 13, 2024, 09:26:08 PMI'm not even sure I'm going to bother watching it.
That's the spirit!
In space, no one will have ice cream
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2024, 09:32:59 PMIt's just funny how it can tank jet fuel burns but is scared of flamethrower fire and can even die from it.
I feel like it's EU that has over-blown the whole "Aliens are afraid of fire" thing. I can't remember any Aliens dying from fire in movies. Idk, maybe I'm forgetting a scene from Aliens or something. I like how it was portrayed in Isolation - extreme heat clearly hurts it but you still can't kill Stompy with a flamethrower
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 02:42:11 AMQuote from: SM on Feb 19, 2019, 01:06:47 AMO'Bannon never wanted the Alien to be invincible, so they needed a reason the crew can't just shoot it and Ron Cobb suggested acid blood.
Idk, kind of makes it even more of a "perfect organism" if you can't even shoot it
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: (Bad Blood) on Mar 14, 2024, 07:25:14 AM
Post by: (Bad Blood) on Mar 14, 2024, 07:25:14 AM
I can see it now!
"The year is 2124...A Predator janitor is space walking outside of the ship to fix something on a routine hunt and an alien popsicle hurtling mach 10 hits the predator and kills him instantly. Next the predators crash into a human station, Big Chap having survived has now begun to wreak havoc and the predators and humans must now join forces or die." 20th Century Fox Presents: Alien Vs Predator: Origin
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"The year is 2124...A Predator janitor is space walking outside of the ship to fix something on a routine hunt and an alien popsicle hurtling mach 10 hits the predator and kills him instantly. Next the predators crash into a human station, Big Chap having survived has now begun to wreak havoc and the predators and humans must now join forces or die." 20th Century Fox Presents: Alien Vs Predator: Origin
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 07:34:49 AM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 07:34:49 AM
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Mar 14, 2024, 07:25:14 AMI can see it now! The year is 2124...A Predator janitor is space walking outside of the ship to fix something on a routine hunt and an alien popsicle hurtling mach 10 hits the predator and kills him instantly. Alien Vs Predator: Origin
LOL ;D
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Post by: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 09:22:12 AM
Post by: Prez on Mar 14, 2024, 09:22:12 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 05:24:24 AMI feel like it's EU that has over-blown the whole "Aliens are afraid of fire" thing. I can't remember any Aliens dying from fire in movies. Idk, maybe I'm forgetting a scene from Aliens or something. I like how it was portrayed in Isolation - extreme heat clearly hurts it but you still can't kill Stompy with a flamethrower
Only one that comes to mind is the chestburster in Aliens that Apone torches.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 09:26:17 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 09:26:17 AM
Ripley says they retreat from fire in Alien 3, and the Queen certainly doesn't like the torch in her face.
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:27:19 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:27:19 AM
Maaaaybe one during the Hive Assault? But that burster is the only one I'm 100% on.
Yeah, you don't like pepper spray but it's not going to cook your flesh either.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 09:26:17 AMRipley says they retreat from fire in Alien 3, and the Queen certainly doesn't like the torch in her face.
Yeah, you don't like pepper spray but it's not going to cook your flesh either.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 09:28:18 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 09:28:18 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:27:19 AMMaaaaybe one during the Hive Assault? But that burster is the only one I'm 100% on.None in the Hive that we see.
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:31:43 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:31:43 AM
Also. Between 3 and Rez, we see extremes of hot and cold they can survive (it'll really piss them off though), and those extremes are pretty... extreme. Anything beyond those is ofc conjecture as to how hot/cold something is and the Romulus stuff.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 09:36:41 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 09:36:41 AM
Surviving the engines is dumb as bricks but I don't remember anyone explicitly saying the thing is alive, did they?
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 09:37:26 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 09:37:26 AM
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 13, 2024, 11:18:26 PMThat's my only red flag with this aside from how they pull the humanoid off. The odds of finding a floating big chap alive in space when the nostromo was in a relatively unknown region makes the likelihood very unbelievable. But I'm willing to look past it if given a good reason and the movie is executed properlyI was thinking the exact same thing. And as Sil said, it all comes down to how well Fede directs it. The only way I would consider it is if maybe they searched along the route that the Nostromo took.
Again, a lot of space.
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 14, 2024, 09:40:30 AM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 14, 2024, 09:40:30 AM
I'm pretty sure the original information confirming Big Chap being experienced on says it survived.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 09:41:24 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 09:41:24 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 09:36:41 AMSurviving the engines is dumb as bricks but I don't remember anyone explicitly saying the thing is alive, did they?That would be weird.. like how long does the film take place after Alien?
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Post by: oduodu on Mar 14, 2024, 09:43:39 AM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 14, 2024, 09:43:39 AM
does the avp frozen queen count for anything?
ditto
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 09:41:24 AMQuote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 09:36:41 AMSurviving the engines is dumb as bricks but I don't remember anyone explicitly saying the thing is alive, did they?That would be weird.. like how long does the film take place after Alien?
ditto
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 09:46:04 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 09:46:04 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Mar 14, 2024, 09:43:39 AMdoes the avp frozen queen count for anything?Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 09:41:24 AMQuote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 09:36:41 AMSurviving the engines is dumb as bricks but I don't remember anyone explicitly saying the thing is alive, did they?That would be weird.. like how long does the film take place after Alien?
ditto
AvP's non canon... Officially. And that's cryogenics. I don't think an Alien would survive in the vacuum of space for extended periods of time provided it survived the engine blast to the face.
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:50:22 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 09:36:41 AMSurviving the engines is dumb as bricks but I don't remember anyone explicitly saying the thing is alive, did they?
I think I picked up somewhere that they find it "alive... just", which could equally be something misconstrued (the blood was alive in a carcass) or me just outright confabulating things.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 09:52:49 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 09:52:49 AM
So I'm a little confused here.. and maybe I missed this detail.. Big Chap's alive?
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:56:23 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:56:23 AM
Maybe, maybe not. But
Spoiler
The Aliens in this come from his black goo DNA
[close]
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:00:57 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:00:57 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:56:23 AMMaybe, maybe not. ButSpoiler
The Aliens in this come from his black goo DNA[close]
Well I already knew that part.. them finding Big Chap. And then the idea of Big Chap being alive...
Okay, I'm upset.
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Post by: David Weyland on Mar 14, 2024, 10:01:42 AM
Post by: David Weyland on Mar 14, 2024, 10:01:42 AM
The Prometheus Strain
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Post by: Mr. Joe on Mar 14, 2024, 10:02:28 AM
Post by: Mr. Joe on Mar 14, 2024, 10:02:28 AM
1 Aliens vs Predators: Origin year 2124 strong male characters play Jon Berthal, Ben Barnes, Jack Huston, Clive Standen, Travis Fimmel, Alex Ludwig ... Colonial Marines, Colonial Marshals Alphatech ...
2 AvP - Machiko, Broken Tusk, Tihinde, Queen, Chigusa Corporation ...
3 AvP Duel - Glass, Light Stepper, Predalien ...
4 AvP War
5 AvP Three World War - Killer Yautja , Tusked Aliens ...
6 Fire and Stone.
7 Life and Death.
8 Aliens vs Predators: Rift War,
9 Aliens vs Predators: Ultimate Prey
2 AvP - Machiko, Broken Tusk, Tihinde, Queen, Chigusa Corporation ...
3 AvP Duel - Glass, Light Stepper, Predalien ...
4 AvP War
5 AvP Three World War - Killer Yautja , Tusked Aliens ...
6 Fire and Stone.
7 Life and Death.
8 Aliens vs Predators: Rift War,
9 Aliens vs Predators: Ultimate Prey
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 10:04:05 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 10:04:05 AM
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:00:57 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:56:23 AMMaybe, maybe not. ButSpoiler
The Aliens in this come from his black goo DNA[close]
Well I already knew that part.. them finding Big Chap. And then the idea of Big Chap being alive...
Okay, I'm upset.
Don't get too upset just yet, I'm talking a bunch of rot and it's unconfirmed either way I believe.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:10:13 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:10:13 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 10:04:05 AMQuote from: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:00:57 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:56:23 AMMaybe, maybe not. ButSpoiler
The Aliens in this come from his black goo DNA[close]
Well I already knew that part.. them finding Big Chap. And then the idea of Big Chap being alive...
Okay, I'm upset.
Don't get too upset just yet, I'm talking a bunch of rot and it's unconfirmed either way I believe.
Doesn't matter, doesn't matter. Because there's
Spoiler
black goo and they're gonna derive the aliens from that.
[close]
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Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 10:11:57 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 10:11:57 AM
Quote from: Mr. Joe on Mar 14, 2024, 10:02:28 AM1 Aliens vs Predators: Origin year 2124 strong male characters play Jon Berthal, Ben Barnes, Jack Huston, Clive Standen, Travis Fimmel, Alex Ludwig ... Colonial Marines, Colonial Marshals Alphatech ...
2 AvP - Machiko, Broken Tusk, Tihinde, Queen, Chigusa Corporation ...
3 AvP Duel - Glass, Light Stepper, Predalien ...
4 AvP War
5 AvP Three World War - Killer Yautja , Tusked Aliens ...
6 Fire and Stone.
7 Life and Death.
8 Aliens vs Predators: Rift War,
9 Aliens vs Predators: Ultimate Prey
WAT.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:13:34 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:13:34 AM
I just now realized that this is starting to sound like William Gibson's Alien 3. Am I alone in that?
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 10:18:18 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 10:18:18 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 10:11:57 AMQuote from: Mr. Joe on Mar 14, 2024, 10:02:28 AM1 Aliens vs Predators: Origin year 2124 strong male characters play Jon Berthal, Ben Barnes, Jack Huston, Clive Standen, Travis Fimmel, Alex Ludwig ... Colonial Marines, Colonial Marshals Alphatech ...
2 AvP - Machiko, Broken Tusk, Tihinde, Queen, Chigusa Corporation ...
3 AvP Duel - Glass, Light Stepper, Predalien ...
4 AvP War
5 AvP Three World War - Killer Yautja , Tusked Aliens ...
6 Fire and Stone.
7 Life and Death.
8 Aliens vs Predators: Rift War,
9 Aliens vs Predators: Ultimate Prey
WAT.
10 Aliens vs Predators: Formerly Chuck's
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 14, 2024, 10:23:07 AM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 14, 2024, 10:23:07 AM
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:10:13 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 10:04:05 AMQuote from: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:00:57 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 09:56:23 AMMaybe, maybe not. ButSpoiler
The Aliens in this come from his black goo DNA[close]
Well I already knew that part.. them finding Big Chap. And then the idea of Big Chap being alive...
Okay, I'm upset.
Don't get too upset just yet, I'm talking a bunch of rot and it's unconfirmed either way I believe.
Doesn't matter, doesn't matter. Because there'sI'm a fan of the eggmorphing concept and they could've easily introduced that over the alternative. forever squandered.Spoiler
black goo and they're gonna derive the aliens from that.[close]
yep to "forever squandered"
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 10:24:28 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 10:24:28 AM
What was Big Chap going to eggmorph? There was no more Nostromo, and I thought being alive enough to do that was also a problem?
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:34:35 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 10:34:35 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 10:24:28 AMWhat was Big Chap going to eggmorph? There was no more Nostromo, and I thought being alive enough to do that was also a problem?
Tbh, I'll take any other Alien over Big Chap in the upcoming film.
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Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 10:55:50 AM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 10:55:50 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:40:18 AMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 13, 2024, 04:24:01 PMAlso, perfect organism is just a label. Such a thing like perfect organism doesn't exist. How could it survive floating in the vacuum of cosmos where nothing was around?The Alien was always meant to be the "perfect" organism. Even Ash said "You can't kill it". It wasn't blown apart by the Narcissus engines firing, only pushed away. Cameron is the one who turned them into bugs and cannon fodder. Of course it can survive in space. It doesn't need to breathe or eat. All that crap was added later.
I'm gonna repeat myself. Perfect organism doesn't exist. It's just a label. Anything can be killed.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 10:59:50 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 10:59:50 AM
It's his opinion that it was supposed to be unkillable and James Cameron is solely responsible for undoing that in the sequel and you just have to respect that.
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Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:04:28 AM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:04:28 AM
If only Nostromo crew had proper weapons they would have killed it. But they didn't hence Ash said "you can't kill it". His comment was related to the context of the situation. James Cameron didn't change anything.
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 11:10:18 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 11:10:18 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:04:28 AMIf only Nostromo crew had proper weapons they would have killed it. But they didn't hence Ash said "you can't kill it". His comment was related to the context of the situation. James Cameron didn't change anything.
Homie they had laser guns that could blow its face off in one go, that's the entire point of the acid blood.
"You don't dare kill it".
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Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:14:01 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:14:01 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 10:59:50 AMIt's his opinion that it was supposed to be unkillable and James Cameron is solely responsible for undoing that in the sequel and you just have to respect that.
Big Chap was unkillable based on what the Nostromo crew had available. It's not like they had pulse rifles or smartguns with explosive-tipped rounds.
Hell, the Marines had both, and even they struggled.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:17:57 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:14:01 AMStruggled mostly because they had their ammo and magazines taken away during that hive battle.Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 10:59:50 AMIt's his opinion that it was supposed to be unkillable and James Cameron is solely responsible for undoing that in the sequel and you just have to respect that.
Big Chap was unkillable based on what the Nostromo crew had available. It's not like they had pulse rifles or smartguns with explosive-tipped rounds.
Hell, the Marines had both, and even they struggled.
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Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:18:39 AM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 11:10:18 AMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:04:28 AMIf only Nostromo crew had proper weapons they would have killed it. But they didn't hence Ash said "you can't kill it". His comment was related to the context of the situation. James Cameron didn't change anything.
Homie they had laser guns that could blow its face off in one go, that's the entire point of the acid blood.
"You don't dare kill it".
Yeah but that doesn't change the fact that it could have been killed regardless the consequences (acid blood damaging the ship). My comment was referring to the statement about Alien's indestructibility.
Also, Nostromo was a huge ship hence this amount of acid blood wouldn't really have damaged it badly. But it's a different topic.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:19:54 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:19:54 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:14:01 AMyou've missed several pages of conversation if you think I need to be told that.Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 10:59:50 AMIt's his opinion that it was supposed to be unkillable and James Cameron is solely responsible for undoing that in the sequel and you just have to respect that.
Big Chap was unkillable based on what the Nostromo crew had available. It's not like they had pulse rifles or smartguns with explosive-tipped rounds.
Hell, the Marines had both, and even they struggled.
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Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:21:09 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:21:09 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:19:54 AMyou've missed several pages of conversation if you think I need to be told that.
...no, I haven't.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:21:55 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:21:55 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:21:09 AMThen why in God's name are you responding to me with it. If you're up to speed you know I'm being facetious.Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:19:54 AMyou've missed several pages of conversation if you think I need to be told that.
...no, I haven't.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 11:22:24 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:18:39 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 11:10:18 AMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:04:28 AMIf only Nostromo crew had proper weapons they would have killed it. But they didn't hence Ash said "you can't kill it". His comment was related to the context of the situation. James Cameron didn't change anything.
Homie they had laser guns that could blow its face off in one go, that's the entire point of the acid blood.
"You don't dare kill it".
Yeah but that doesn't change the fact that it could have been killed regardless the consequences (acid blood damaging the ship). My comment was referring to the statement about Alien's indestructibility.
Also, Nostromo was a huge ship hence this amount of acid blood wouldn't really have damaged it badly. But it's a different topic.
Unless it was standing by a bulkhead, or unless they hit it in the guts and it did 100x what that little squirt from the facehugger did, or unless...
For the record, I'm arguing in favour of it being entirely destroyable, just disagreeing with you saying the Nostromo crew didn't have proper weapons for the job. They did, but outright killing it was likely suicide, so they went for the airlock plan, then tried to bail entirely when that didn't work out.
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Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:24:43 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:24:43 AM
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:17:57 AMStruggled mostly because they had their ammo and magazines taken away during that hive battle.
Not all of them. Drake and Vasquez kept a set of power lead connectors for their smartguns, so they had them at least.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:26:14 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:26:14 AM
The Nostromo crew had the means, just not the circumstances. They couldn't use their weapons because of the acid, so made nets and cattle prods - then incinerators.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:29:59 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:29:59 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:24:43 AMHence why I said mostly. But yea, Drake and Vasquez had the best chances because they disobeyed orders.Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:17:57 AMStruggled mostly because they had their ammo and magazines taken away during that hive battle.
Not all of them. Drake and Vasquez kept a set of power lead connectors for their smartguns, so they had them at least.
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Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:30:35 AM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:30:35 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 11:22:24 AMUnless it was standing by a bulkhead, or unless they hit it in the guts and it did 100x what that little squirt from the facehugger did, or unless...
For the record, I'm arguing in favour of it being entirely destroyable, just disagreeing with you saying the Nostromo crew didn't have proper weapons for the job. They did, but outright killing it was likely suicide, so they went for the airlock plan, then tried to bail entirely when that didn't work out.
Yeah I know, I just forgot about the Nostromo crew having proper weapons. It's been a while since I watched it.
I think that they could have used weapons if they truly wanted but it would have killed movie's suspense. Not using weapons had more to do with the plot than with realism. But again, it's a different topic.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:34:52 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:30:35 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 14, 2024, 11:22:24 AMUnless it was standing by a bulkhead, or unless they hit it in the guts and it did 100x what that little squirt from the facehugger did, or unless...
For the record, I'm arguing in favour of it being entirely destroyable, just disagreeing with you saying the Nostromo crew didn't have proper weapons for the job. They did, but outright killing it was likely suicide, so they went for the airlock plan, then tried to bail entirely when that didn't work out.
Yeah I know, I just forgot about the Nostromo crew having proper weapons. It's been a while since I watched it.
I think that they could have used weapons if they truly wanted but it would have killed movie's suspense. Not using weapons had more to do with the plot than with realism. But again, it's a different topic.
Well, an organism that grows to human size in less than 24 hours without eating isn't exactly quote on quote realistic either.
But the point is as long as it makes sense and adds up, then it's all gold.
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Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:39:27 AM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:39:27 AM
I meant realism of the situation regarding acid blood destroying hull of Nostromo ship which was huuuuge.
You simply sacrifice the realism of the situation for the sake of the plot. This is a frequently used tool in movies/books and so on. I have nothing against that.
You simply sacrifice the realism of the situation for the sake of the plot. This is a frequently used tool in movies/books and so on. I have nothing against that.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:43:17 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:39:27 AMI meant realism of the situation regarding acid blood destroying hull of Nostromo ship which was huuuuge.It was only three levels. A tiny cut on the hugger went through two of them.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:45:12 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:45:12 AM
Yea, imagine what a full grown Alien could do.
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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 14, 2024, 12:01:01 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 14, 2024, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 13, 2024, 08:37:41 PMQuote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 08:21:53 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 13, 2024, 08:12:54 PMI credit spoilers and trailers with letting me know if I should just stay at home and eat ice cream.
And right now it's looking like another ice cream party is in my future.
I scream, you scream, we All scream for ice cream, but scream not working because space make deaf.
In space, no one will have ice cream
Neither on Fiory 16.
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Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:02:23 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:02:23 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:43:17 AMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 11:39:27 AMI meant realism of the situation regarding acid blood destroying hull of Nostromo ship which was huuuuge.It was only three levels. A tiny cut on the hugger went through two of them.
Was it only three levels? Even though they could have trapped Alien somewhere at the upper levels of the ship and then killed it. Acid blood would have never gone through the hull (Nostromo was very tall). Buy again, you sacrifice realism for the sake of the plot. It's frequently used tool is storytelling. Alien as a movie is not an exception.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 12:07:04 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:02:23 PMWas it only three levels? Even though they could have trapped Alien somewhere at the upper levels of the ship and then killed it. Acid blood would have never gone through the hull (Nostromo was very tall).Yes, only three decks. Again, the hugger, with a small cut, got through two of them. The next stop was the hull itself. The characters say this, that's why they're so careful.
We see in Resurrection what happens - an adult burned through ten decks or so.
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Post by: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 12:11:39 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 12:11:39 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 12:07:04 PMWe see in Resurrection what happens - an adult burned through ten decks or so.
But they're not REAL Aliens !
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Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:13:59 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:13:59 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 12:07:04 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:02:23 PMWas it only three levels? Even though they could have trapped Alien somewhere at the upper levels of the ship and then killed it. Acid blood would have never gone through the hull (Nostromo was very tall).Yes, only three decks. Again, the hugger, with a small cut, got through two of them. The next stop was the hull itself. The characters say this, that's why they're so careful.
We see in Resurrection what happens - an adult burned through ten decks or so.
Yes, but in Resurrection Alien was literally torn apart by other Xenos. Acid blood was all over the place. Laser guns don't make such a damage. Correct me if I'm wrong.
If Nostromo was small ship then it would have made sense. But Nostromo was tall (72.5 meters in height). But again, I don't mind sacrificing realism for the sake of the plot.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 12:19:24 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 12:19:24 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:13:59 PMIf Nostromo was small ship then it would have made sense. But Nostromo was tall (72.5 meters in height). But again, I don't mind sacrificing realism for the sake of the plot.I don't know why you're insisting that the film is sacrificing realism when it clearly shows that a very small bleed is enough to almost breach the hull. Even a more substantial cut on the hugger would've gone through.
And the thing isn't bleeding through the full 72.5 meters; it's bleeding from the floor of the first level through the bottom of the ship (assuming it's not standing NEXT to the hull and the blood is only going down.)
The film establishes the blood is a threat to the integrity of the hull, saying it doesn't is bizarre.
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Post by: Prince on Mar 14, 2024, 12:23:58 PM
Post by: Prince on Mar 14, 2024, 12:23:58 PM
Fede must be pretty annoyed with the leaks coming out. Granted he's experienced enough in the industry and has previously worked on a popular horror franchise, so he knows the score somewhat, but there must be a obvious sense of frustration on his part.
So, I feel equally annoyed with the guy.
So, I feel equally annoyed with the guy.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:27:11 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:27:11 PM
You didn't understand what I was trying to say :)
Because acid blood is a threat to the integrity of the hull (which it is, I don't disagree with that) doesn't mean they couldn't have killed Xeno at the upper levels of the ship. Its acid blood wouldn't have gone down through all the levels (72 meters) and cut the hull. That is what I'm referring to.
Because acid blood is a threat to the integrity of the hull (which it is, I don't disagree with that) doesn't mean they couldn't have killed Xeno at the upper levels of the ship. Its acid blood wouldn't have gone down through all the levels (72 meters) and cut the hull. That is what I'm referring to.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 12:31:05 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 12:31:05 PM
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David: And I thought I've created Perfect OrganismTM
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Ingwar: Perfect OrganismTM ? Oh I'm sorry, sir, there's no such thing as Perfect OrganismTM, that's just an illusion
David: And I thought I've created Perfect OrganismTM
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Ingwar: Perfect OrganismTM ? Oh I'm sorry, sir, there's no such thing as Perfect OrganismTM, that's just an illusion
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 12:33:46 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 12:33:46 PM
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:34:52 AMWell, an organism that grows to human size in less than 24 hours without eating isn't exactly quote on quote realistic either.
Xenomorphs do eat. After emergence, the Chestburster consumes heavy metals until it moults and evolves. Adult Xenos feed on the bodies of victims and dead hosts.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 14, 2024, 12:34:03 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 14, 2024, 12:34:03 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:13:59 PMYes, but in Resurrection Alien was literally torn apart by other Xenos. Acid blood was all over the place. Laser guns don't make such a damage. Correct me if I'm wrong.
If Nostromo was small ship then it would have made sense. But Nostromo was tall (72.5 meters in height). But again, I don't mind sacrificing realism for the sake of the plot.
A laser would cauterize a wound.
No bleeding.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:36:26 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:36:26 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 12:31:05 PMhttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oUTmsq5T42c/U09M7V-wy_I/AAAAAAANnHA/0M3Jg-shNEA/s1600/Columbo-Now_You_See_Him-1976-VCSS3-339.jpg
David: And I thought I've created Perfect OrganismTM
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Ingwar: Perfect OrganismTM ? Oh I'm sorry, sir, there's no such thing as Perfect OrganismTM, that's just an illusion
Not an illusion but a label. Perfect organism (and I'm not referring only to Xeno) doesn't exist. Also, "perfect organism" created by imperfect being (David) is illogical in itself. Don't forget that David was delusional.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 12:49:23 PM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 12:49:23 PM
I'm going to add that the Auriga was a significantly larger ship than the Nostromo.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 12:33:46 PMIs that something from the expanded universe?Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 11:34:52 AMWell, an organism that grows to human size in less than 24 hours without eating isn't exactly quote on quote realistic either.
Xenomorphs do eat. After emergence, the Chestburster consumes heavy metals until it moults and evolves. Adult Xenos feed on the bodies of victims and dead hosts.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: MaineXeno on Mar 14, 2024, 12:55:43 PM
Post by: MaineXeno on Mar 14, 2024, 12:55:43 PM
"Perfect organism" was Ash admiring it for being incredibly adaptable and not having any sense of morality or delusions of grandeur. It was not about it being impossible to kill. It's basically about him admiring it because it's borderline a living robot. I don't see the big deal about Big Chap surviving in space or just still being alive in general after Alien. It doesn't ruin anything, Ripley still "wins" in the end because she got rid of it and survived
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 01:04:41 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 01:04:41 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:27:11 PMIts acid blood wouldn't have gone down through all the levels (72 meters) and cut the hull. That is what I'm referring to.But it would. The film shows this. A tiny scratch gets through two out of three levels. The only thing below the third level is the hull. Any more blood and there would've been a breach. Why do you insist on saying this couldn't be?
The acid blood isn't realistic to begin with. That's what's unrealistic, not that the Alien would bleed through the ship.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 01:11:49 PM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 01:11:49 PM
That was pretty much the point of the film showing off the acid blood and the repercussions if they did try to kill it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 01:14:00 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 12:49:23 PMIs that something from the expanded universe?
Yes. But it does make sense!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 01:20:31 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 01:04:41 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:27:11 PMIts acid blood wouldn't have gone down through all the levels (72 meters) and cut the hull. That is what I'm referring to.But it would. The film shows this. A tiny scratch gets through two out of three levels. The only thing below the third level is the hull. Any more blood and there would've been a breach. Why do you insist on saying this couldn't be?
The acid blood isn't realistic to begin with. That's what's unrealistic, not that the Alien would bleed through the ship.
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 14, 2024, 12:34:03 PMA laser would cauterize a wound.
No bleeding.
Even if Alien bled its acid blood wouldn't have gone down through 72 meters (if crew trapped and killed it at the upper levels which was my point you keep ignoring) and cut the hull. 72 meters is about 21 stories (in normal building which means it would be even more on the spaceship). In Alien Resurrection Xeno is thorn open and its acid blood pours out in streams going down through 10 decks or more (as you mentioned before). Keep in mind that laser guns don't cause such a damage.
Alien is a form of storytelling and every storytelling is not without errors.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: O_Intelligence on Mar 14, 2024, 01:30:48 PM
Post by: O_Intelligence on Mar 14, 2024, 01:30:48 PM
So, Big Chap is quite possibly (explicitly or implicitly/thematically) Romulus.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 01:34:39 PM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 14, 2024, 01:34:39 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 01:20:31 PMQuote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 01:04:41 PMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 12:27:11 PMIts acid blood wouldn't have gone down through all the levels (72 meters) and cut the hull. That is what I'm referring to.But it would. The film shows this. A tiny scratch gets through two out of three levels. The only thing below the third level is the hull. Any more blood and there would've been a breach. Why do you insist on saying this couldn't be?
The acid blood isn't realistic to begin with. That's what's unrealistic, not that the Alien would bleed through the ship.Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 14, 2024, 12:34:03 PMA laser would cauterize a wound.
No bleeding.
Even if Alien bled its acid blood wouldn't have gone down through 72 meters (if crew trapped and killed it at the upper levels which was my point you keep ignoring) and cut the hull. 72 meters is about 21 stories (in normal building which means it would be even more on the spaceship). In Alien Resurrection Xeno is thorn open and its acid blood pours out in streams going down through 10 decks or more (as you mentioned before). Keep in mind that laser guns don't cause such a damage.
Alien is a form of storytelling and every storytelling is not without errors.
You say upper levels, and I'm like, wasn't the medbay on the same deck as the recreation/bridge areas which is where the facehugger bled from? I'm also pretty sure the Alien kept to the lower decks and ventilation ducts as well, further complicating the situation of trying to kill it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 01:44:13 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 01:20:31 PMEven if Alien bled its acid blood wouldn't have gone down through 72 meters (if crew trapped and killed it at the upper levels which was my point you keep ignoring) and cut the hull. 72 meters is about 21 stories (in normal building which means it would be even more on the spaceship).I don't ignore it, you just don't seem to understand a few things:
1) the face hugger is on the top level when it bleeds.
2) the ship only has three decks.
3) the small cut bleeds through 2 of them
4) the height of the ship includes the large structures at the rear of the ship for the engines and docking clamp. The inhabited part is the thinner section at the front.
You keep saying 72.5 meters like the Alien is on the outside of the ship at its tallest point and has to bleed all the way through to the bottom to damage it.
Just watch the movie. It's all there.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 02:02:28 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 02:02:28 PM
I'm talking about the alternative situation: crew trying to trap and kill Xeno at the upper level. Jesus.
Also using laser weapons would cause bleeding or if it would it wouldn't be significant bleeding.
Also using laser weapons would cause bleeding or if it would it wouldn't be significant bleeding.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: razeak on Mar 14, 2024, 02:20:28 PM
Post by: razeak on Mar 14, 2024, 02:20:28 PM
That blood didn't drip through solid material all the way down. It dropped through open spaces. Blasting big chap, even with laser weapons, would likely expose the crew to vacuum as it would be more than a few ounces. It was in the DNA of the story from its inception that the blood would prevent them from just shooting the damn thing.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 14, 2024, 02:22:02 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 14, 2024, 02:22:02 PM
But we never saw any laser weapons being used in the movies. That's just speculation what they would do to a xenomorph.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:31:59 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:31:59 PM
@Mike's Monsters, is this what the Romulus will more or less look like?
Spoiler
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: razeak on Mar 14, 2024, 02:33:01 PM
Post by: razeak on Mar 14, 2024, 02:33:01 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 14, 2024, 02:22:02 PMBut we never saw any laser weapons being used in the movies. That's just speculation what they would do to a xenomorph.may or may not cauterize. We just don't know. What if the alien blood pressure is really high and it just sprays everywhere lol.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 02:36:30 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 14, 2024, 02:36:30 PM
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:31:59 PM@Mike's Monsters, is this what the Romulus will more or less look like?Spoiler
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Perfect shape doesnt exi-
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 14, 2024, 02:40:00 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 14, 2024, 02:40:00 PM
dallas is on record saying: "time to break out the weapons". if i remember correctly there were scenes where you could see them wearing laser pistols. or am i just dreaming?
the scene where they cut the facehugger wasn t that some kind of laser beam cutter they used?
imagine how much acid a laser pistol would release. eat its way through 6 decks into the hull.
the scene where they cut the facehugger wasn t that some kind of laser beam cutter they used?
imagine how much acid a laser pistol would release. eat its way through 6 decks into the hull.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 02:44:10 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 02:44:10 PM
Quote from: razeak on Mar 14, 2024, 02:20:28 PMThat blood didn't drip through solid material all the way down. It dropped through open spaces. Blasting big chap, even with laser weapons, would likely expose the crew to vacuum as it would be more than a few ounces. It was in the DNA of the story from its inception that the blood would prevent them from just shooting the damn thing.
Come on, you're overexaggerating. You trap alien at the upper levels (at least 21 stories) of the Nostromo ship, shoot it dead, acid blood goes down through some stories but it would never reach the hull (72 meters down). Also, the hull itself is way thicker than normal wall because it must be for safety reasons. The way you're portraying it, is as if Alien cannot be shot at within spaceship environment because of acid blood. Of course it can. It's been done in games and comic books.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 14, 2024, 02:48:07 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 14, 2024, 02:48:07 PM
what if it destroys some essential system like oxygen pipes or the electrics needed to pump air around the ship?
its a big chance to take.
its a big chance to take.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 02:53:07 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 02:53:07 PM
Nostromo knew its ship well and if they wanted to trap Xeno they would have done it in "the safest" environment possible without jeopardizing ship's condition to the extreme. Also, having Alien monster aboard in itself is bad enough to take big changes. It's given. You have no choice but to take the risk.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 14, 2024, 03:02:01 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 14, 2024, 03:02:01 PM
Just give up Sil, he's dug in like an Alabama tick.
He's really stuck on this 72 meter thing, like the film doesn't show one drop from the hugger eating through 2/3 the ship. Walking him through it again won't help.
He's really stuck on this 72 meter thing, like the film doesn't show one drop from the hugger eating through 2/3 the ship. Walking him through it again won't help.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 14, 2024, 03:20:07 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 14, 2024, 03:20:07 PM
We will never know what lasers would have done. There are inconsistencies regarding acid blood eating through materials. In Resurrection for example, we saw Ripley shot an adult xeno through the mouth, no big deal. Shouldn't she be worried about that ?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 14, 2024, 03:24:59 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 14, 2024, 03:24:59 PM
The acid is only as strong as the the writer needs it to be for their story. In Alien one drop can eat through the top 2 decks of a 3 deck ship.
In A3 a splash of acid from a hugger destroys the Sulaco. Ship decks would be full of wiring and piping, damaging any of these systems could lead to a disaster.
In A3 a splash of acid from a hugger destroys the Sulaco. Ship decks would be full of wiring and piping, damaging any of these systems could lead to a disaster.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 03:34:14 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 14, 2024, 03:20:07 PMWe will never know what lasers would have done. There are inconsistencies regarding acid blood eating through materials. In Resurrection for example, we saw Ripley shot an adult xeno through the mouth, no big deal. Shouldn't she be worried about that ?
Of course there are inconsistencies because it's all about storytelling which I was trying to tell from the beginning :) One sacrifices realism for the sake of the plot. It's crucial part of storytelling.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 14, 2024, 03:36:08 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 14, 2024, 03:36:08 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 14, 2024, 03:20:07 PMWe will never know what lasers would have done. There are inconsistencies regarding acid blood eating through materials. In Resurrection for example, we saw Ripley shot an adult xeno through the mouth, no big deal. Shouldn't she be worried about that ?
fair point. don t know how to answer that. maybe those xeno s had weaker acid? don t know.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 14, 2024, 03:37:57 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 14, 2024, 03:37:57 PM
I'm hoping for nasty acid burning face/body scenes in this one. Common Fede, it's right in your alley.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 03:41:18 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2024, 03:41:18 PM
As I recall, the Auriga was much, MUCH bigger than the Nostromo.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 03:55:03 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 03:55:03 PM
Ok, think I know where the whole misunderstanding comes from. When I was referring to Nostromo I was referring to the whole structure including refinery. I should have mentioned that before. I took it for granted. My bad.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 14, 2024, 03:58:49 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 14, 2024, 03:58:49 PM
That clears up alot as the refinery is not apart of the Nostromo and I believe is not directly accessible by the crew.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: razeak on Mar 14, 2024, 04:01:17 PM
Post by: razeak on Mar 14, 2024, 04:01:17 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 03:55:03 PMOk, think I know where the whole misunderstanding comes from. When I was referring to Nostromo I was referring to the whole structure including refinery. I should have mentioned that before. I took it for granted. My bad.
Oh.. Well duh. lol.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 14, 2024, 04:32:27 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 14, 2024, 04:32:27 PM
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 14, 2024, 02:31:59 PM@Mike's Monsters, is this what the Romulus will more or less look like?Spoiler
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Kitchen_Funnel.jpg/440px-Kitchen_Funnel.jpg)[close]
Yes
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 04:36:58 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 04:36:58 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 14, 2024, 03:58:49 PMThat clears up alot as the refinery is not apart of the Nostromo and I believe is not directly accessible by the crew.
There must be a way in which would be a great alternative story with crew fighting xeno inside refinery.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 14, 2024, 08:08:54 PM
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 14, 2024, 08:08:54 PM
Where did the idea of The Perfect Organism = Invincible? Just means they are super good at violently reproducing, hunting, and killing without any kind of morality to hinder them. Their durability and intelligence are not always consistent sure but regardless they are tough as hell and can adapt to environmental and hostile conditions on a dime.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 08:33:45 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 08:33:45 PM
People who want to rag on Aliens.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: COOL GUY on Mar 14, 2024, 11:13:11 PM
Post by: COOL GUY on Mar 14, 2024, 11:13:11 PM
How the F do you find a black alien floating in infinite space. That sounds dumb as shit
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 11:19:09 PM
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 11:19:09 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:21:55 AMI stand by my earlier post about how you respond to people. :laugh:Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:21:09 AM[quoteThen why in God's name are you responding to me with it. If you're up to speed you know I'm being facetious.Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:21:55 AMQuote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:21:09 AMThen why in God's name are you responding to me with it. If you're up to speed you know I'm being facetious.Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:19:54 AMyou've missed several pages of conversation if you think I need to be told that.
...no, I haven't.
[/quoteQuote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:21:55 AM] author=SiL link=msg=2633674 date=1710415194]Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 14, 2024, 11:21:09 AMThen why in God's name are you responding to me with it. If you're up to speed you know I'm being facetious.Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:19:54 AMyou've missed several pages of conversation if you think I need to be told that.
...no, I haven't.
you've missed several pages of conversation if you think I need to be told that.
...no, I haven't.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: carnotaurus1350 on Mar 14, 2024, 11:40:04 PM
Post by: carnotaurus1350 on Mar 14, 2024, 11:40:04 PM
I don't mind the new leaks at all, at least with the limited context of coming via leaks which always makes things sound silly and convoluted.
That said -- bringing back Ash. Not a fan. Assuming they're going for the AI/Deepfake route, just not a fan. But maybe they're recasting and not going that route?
That said, as a story concept outside of the issues of 'how', I dig it.
That said -- bringing back Ash. Not a fan. Assuming they're going for the AI/Deepfake route, just not a fan. But maybe they're recasting and not going that route?
That said, as a story concept outside of the issues of 'how', I dig it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ash was OG AI/Android on Mar 14, 2024, 11:44:12 PM
Post by: Ash was OG AI/Android on Mar 14, 2024, 11:44:12 PM
So let's face it Ash /Ian Holm was the first OG android/AI in any film. Let's not forget that.
It may be morbid but let's see. Its almost perfect. If you think about it.
It may be morbid but let's see. Its almost perfect. If you think about it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:48:28 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:48:28 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 11:19:09 PMI stand by my earlier post about how you respond to people. :laugh:You're welcome to your opinion.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Big Chap Returns ... on Mar 14, 2024, 11:52:48 PM
Post by: Big Chap Returns ... on Mar 14, 2024, 11:52:48 PM
Big Chap Returns is OK.
But the Prometheus Strain irks...
Having Kanes Son Linked to David is irksome. imho
Like the Prequels a lot.
Just David and SJ stuff linked- not so much....
The link in a mid-quel between A L I E N and Aliens is a bit too much..stretching it a bit.
But the Prometheus Strain irks...
Having Kanes Son Linked to David is irksome. imho
Like the Prequels a lot.
Just David and SJ stuff linked- not so much....
The link in a mid-quel between A L I E N and Aliens is a bit too much..stretching it a bit.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Prez on Mar 15, 2024, 02:29:02 AM
Post by: Prez on Mar 15, 2024, 02:29:02 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Mar 14, 2024, 08:08:54 PMWhere did the idea of The Perfect Organism = Invincible? Just means they are super good at violently reproducing, hunting, and killing without any kind of morality to hinder them. Their durability and intelligence are not always consistent sure but regardless they are tough as hell and can adapt to environmental and hostile conditions on a dime.
I read that in Ash's voice.
@Mr.Turok is a Goddamn robot!!!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Highland on Mar 15, 2024, 06:39:57 AM
Post by: Highland on Mar 15, 2024, 06:39:57 AM
Have not seen this many panties in a twist on here in about 10 years. This thread is awesome.
I'm gona say that the Alien is found because the Harpoon had a beacon on it. Easy Mcguffin.
Is it possible that the Android is playing the Android in a flashback scene and not as another version of himself or has that been debunked?
Also black goo kinda means David still made the Alien, even more so if anything.
I'm gona say that the Alien is found because the Harpoon had a beacon on it. Easy Mcguffin.
Is it possible that the Android is playing the Android in a flashback scene and not as another version of himself or has that been debunked?
Also black goo kinda means David still made the Alien, even more so if anything.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: David Weyland on Mar 15, 2024, 08:21:03 AM
Post by: David Weyland on Mar 15, 2024, 08:21:03 AM
Certainly the Derelict's anyway
Ridley guarding his patch
Ridley guarding his patch
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 15, 2024, 08:48:11 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 15, 2024, 08:48:11 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 14, 2024, 11:19:09 PMI stand by my earlier post about how you respond to people. :laugh:
Thanks for the support!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 15, 2024, 09:01:28 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 15, 2024, 09:01:28 AM
You constantly reply to me with nonsequitors and I've made it pretty clear I don't care for it. Maybe just stop replying to me?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 15, 2024, 09:29:13 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 15, 2024, 09:29:13 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 15, 2024, 09:01:28 AMYou constantly reply to me with nonsequitors and I've made it pretty clear I don't care for it. Maybe just stop replying to me?
Who are you talking to here?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 15, 2024, 09:36:02 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 15, 2024, 09:36:02 AM
I'm just going to leave the Ignore banner yellow this time.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 15, 2024, 07:27:03 PM
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 15, 2024, 07:27:03 PM
Quote from: Prez on Mar 15, 2024, 02:29:02 AMSome small modifications and I can see it be a line that Ash would say. Needs to me moreQuote from: Mr.Turok on Mar 14, 2024, 08:08:54 PMWhere did the idea of The Perfect Organism = Invincible? Just means they are super good at violently reproducing, hunting, and killing without any kind of morality to hinder them. Their durability and intelligence are not always consistent sure but regardless they are tough as hell and can adapt to environmental and hostile conditions on a dime.
I read that in Ash's voice.
@Mr.Turok is a Goddamn robot!!!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Max on Mar 15, 2024, 07:31:37 PM
Post by: Max on Mar 15, 2024, 07:31:37 PM
'The iconic Big Chap Xenomorph, thought to be dead after it was jettisoned out of the airlock managed to SURVIVE, albeit in rough shape and was floating in space until it was recovered'
- it can't get more stupid; can it
- it can't get more stupid; can it
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Hudson hawk on Mar 15, 2024, 09:12:19 PM
Post by: Hudson hawk on Mar 15, 2024, 09:12:19 PM
What next the alien queen is found on the moon by Armstrong
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Dillons biceps on Mar 15, 2024, 09:21:40 PM
Post by: Dillons biceps on Mar 15, 2024, 09:21:40 PM
I know it sort of undermines the "win" for Ripley in Alien so can we assume that the Alien Queen is also floating off past the Milky Way or near Galaxy high with Doyle too ...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 15, 2024, 09:24:17 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 15, 2024, 09:24:17 PM
It's giving shitty midquel novel vibes.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Prez on Mar 15, 2024, 10:20:36 PM
Post by: Prez on Mar 15, 2024, 10:20:36 PM
Ever since I saw Aliens in the cinema back in 86, I've always had the question in my brain, did the Queen really die out there in Space?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 15, 2024, 10:24:05 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 15, 2024, 10:24:05 PM
That's for Romulus 2...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 15, 2024, 10:29:00 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 15, 2024, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Hudson hawk on Mar 15, 2024, 09:12:19 PMWhat next the alien queen is found on the moon by Armstrong
I'll admit this one cracked me up.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 15, 2024, 11:02:47 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 15, 2024, 11:02:47 PM
Remus: they find the Queen
Rome: they find the dog Alien after it reconstituted itself post explosion
Rome: they find the dog Alien after it reconstituted itself post explosion
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Still Collating... on Mar 16, 2024, 01:19:47 AM
Post by: Still Collating... on Mar 16, 2024, 01:19:47 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 15, 2024, 11:02:47 PMRome: they find the dog Alien after it reconstituted itself post explosion
Just like Ridley would've wanted... :P
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 16, 2024, 04:36:38 AM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 16, 2024, 04:36:38 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 15, 2024, 11:02:47 PMRemus: they find the Queen
Rome: they find the dog Alien after it reconstituted itself post explosion
But what about fan-favourite Newborn ?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 16, 2024, 06:00:02 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 16, 2024, 06:00:02 AM
I want my space elephants. Gimme my space elephants.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Burkes jockstrap on Mar 16, 2024, 08:34:08 AM
Post by: Burkes jockstrap on Mar 16, 2024, 08:34:08 AM
The Ripley 8 hybrid that got sucked out into bits floats away but eventually met Unicron who gave it a new body and new troops to command . She's doing ok 👍 searching for the autonomy matrix of life , goes to therapy over her mum discarding her via a hole .........film to follow 2029.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Prince on Mar 16, 2024, 03:56:44 PM
Post by: Prince on Mar 16, 2024, 03:56:44 PM
Having read the spoilers, I'm still intrigued by Fede's direction and execution, though I'm not a big fan of the Black Goo playing such a prominent role in kicking off the mayhem.
The Black Goo has never interested me , to be honest. The whole concept of it sounds somewhat goofy and lazy from a narrative perspective.
Fascinated to see Big Chap again on screen and the condition its in though and obviously the young performers.
The Black Goo has never interested me , to be honest. The whole concept of it sounds somewhat goofy and lazy from a narrative perspective.
Fascinated to see Big Chap again on screen and the condition its in though and obviously the young performers.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 16, 2024, 05:53:29 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 16, 2024, 05:53:29 PM
Only another 5 months for the movie's release, could be sooner or later internationally. The wait is agonising, it can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: skhellter on Mar 16, 2024, 07:27:45 PM
Post by: skhellter on Mar 16, 2024, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: Prez on Mar 15, 2024, 10:20:36 PMEver since I saw Aliens in the cinema back in 86, I've always had the question in my brain, did the Queen really die out there in Space?
Probably fell back into the planet and died in re-entry
There are some ways to science-wank their explanation of how they found big chap. Curious how they'll explain it.
Some station probably picked up signs of the explosion from far far away. Then WY searches around the site of the Nostromo explosion, probably with some fantasy gizmo that "scans for biological signatures".. voilá.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 16, 2024, 08:06:38 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 16, 2024, 08:06:38 PM
Indeed. The company probably had numerous ships combing that area of space where the Nostromo suddenly disappeared. It's still ridiculous of course, but if we can accept a magic egg on the Sulaco, surely we can accept this.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 16, 2024, 08:09:06 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 16, 2024, 08:09:06 PM
Someone mentioned the grappling hook having a tracker in it, which is probably the best we could hope for.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on Mar 16, 2024, 08:57:47 PM
Post by: Kradan on Mar 16, 2024, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 16, 2024, 08:06:38 PMIt's still ridiculous of course, but if we can accept a magic egg on the Sulaco, surely we can accept this.
Can we tho ?
Egg on Sulaco (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=9.msg2625396#new)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 16, 2024, 09:37:30 PM
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 16, 2024, 09:37:30 PM
Man...Even if a fairy did it...Big Chap is back! in all its Gigerish glory 8)
(https://s9.gifyu.com/images/SUYFd.gif)
(https://s9.gifyu.com/images/SUYFd.gif)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 16, 2024, 09:49:35 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 16, 2024, 09:49:35 PM
Let the dead stay dead.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 16, 2024, 09:51:53 PM
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 16, 2024, 09:51:53 PM
Hey who am I, Disney? ;D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 16, 2024, 11:18:10 PM
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 16, 2024, 11:18:10 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 16, 2024, 08:06:38 PMIndeed. The company probably had numerous ships combing that area of space where the Nostromo suddenly disappeared. It's still ridiculous of course, but if we can accept a magic egg on the Sulaco, surely we can accept this.Thinking about it today... The people crying because founding Big Chap in middle of space but they never said anything with Ripley climbing the stairs while everything are sucked by the space (even the queen) in Aliens. This are sci-fi movies, they aren't meant to be realistic
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Highland on Mar 16, 2024, 11:23:14 PM
Post by: Highland on Mar 16, 2024, 11:23:14 PM
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 16, 2024, 11:18:10 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 16, 2024, 08:06:38 PMIndeed. The company probably had numerous ships combing that area of space where the Nostromo suddenly disappeared. It's still ridiculous of course, but if we can accept a magic egg on the Sulaco, surely we can accept this.Thinking about it today... The people crying because founding Big Chap in middle of space but they never said anything with Ripley climbing the stairs while everything are sucked by the space (even the queen) in Aliens. This are sci-fi movies, they aren't meant to be realistic
I think maybe what's more jarring is that it didn't really need to be done. You could have set an Alien movie in the proposed timeline without finding big chap in space.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 16, 2024, 11:23:39 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 16, 2024, 11:23:39 PM
No people have been saying that's silly since 1986.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 16, 2024, 11:25:15 PM
Post by: aliens13 on Mar 16, 2024, 11:25:15 PM
Quote from: Highland on Mar 16, 2024, 11:23:14 PMYes, but I didn't feel that it's soooo bad like many people are saying just for throw hate to the movie. For me it's OKQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 16, 2024, 11:18:10 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 16, 2024, 08:06:38 PMIndeed. The company probably had numerous ships combing that area of space where the Nostromo suddenly disappeared. It's still ridiculous of course, but if we can accept a magic egg on the Sulaco, surely we can accept this.Thinking about it today... The people crying because founding Big Chap in middle of space but they never said anything with Ripley climbing the stairs while everything are sucked by the space (even the queen) in Aliens. This are sci-fi movies, they aren't meant to be realistic
I think maybe what's more jarring is that it didn't really need to be done. You could have set an Alien movie in the proposed timeline without finding big chap in space.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 17, 2024, 01:39:58 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 17, 2024, 01:39:58 AM
Quote from: Highland on Mar 16, 2024, 11:23:14 PMI think maybe what's more jarring is that it didn't really need to be done. You could have set an Alien movie in the proposed timeline without finding big chap in space.
Sounds like you're warming up...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Highland on Mar 17, 2024, 01:40:39 AM
Post by: Highland on Mar 17, 2024, 01:40:39 AM
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 16, 2024, 11:25:15 PMQuote from: Highland on Mar 16, 2024, 11:23:14 PMYes, but I didn't feel that it's soooo bad like many people are saying just for throw hate to the movie. For me it's OKQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 16, 2024, 11:18:10 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 16, 2024, 08:06:38 PMIndeed. The company probably had numerous ships combing that area of space where the Nostromo suddenly disappeared. It's still ridiculous of course, but if we can accept a magic egg on the Sulaco, surely we can accept this.Thinking about it today... The people crying because founding Big Chap in middle of space but they never said anything with Ripley climbing the stairs while everything are sucked by the space (even the queen) in Aliens. This are sci-fi movies, they aren't meant to be realistic
I think maybe what's more jarring is that it didn't really need to be done. You could have set an Alien movie in the proposed timeline without finding big chap in space.
I'm a fence sitter, it's not enough for me to hate on wildly, but I do get the hate. I guess I'm more worried about the reason they did it rather than the actual event, kind of smells a bit like.....cheap, if you get my meaning.
I'm sort of expecting this move to be more visual horror and less sci fi, just based on little details like that.
I can buy they didn't want to go back to the Planet, no point reusing the "we found an egg on this spaceship" scene for the third time ( if you count extended edition). Big Chap wasn't the solution to that problem though.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: razeak on Mar 17, 2024, 02:36:03 AM
Post by: razeak on Mar 17, 2024, 02:36:03 AM
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 16, 2024, 11:18:10 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 16, 2024, 08:06:38 PMIndeed. The company probably had numerous ships combing that area of space where the Nostromo suddenly disappeared. It's still ridiculous of course, but if we can accept a magic egg on the Sulaco, surely we can accept this.Thinking about it today... The people crying because founding Big Chap in middle of space but they never said anything with Ripley climbing the stairs while everything are sucked by the space (even the queen) in Aliens. This are sci-fi movies, they aren't meant to be realistic
[/quoteQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 16, 2024, 11:18:10 PMso Ripley should just sprout superpowers and start whizzing around because it's sci-fi?Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 16, 2024, 08:06:38 PMIndeed. The company probably had numerous ships combing that area of space where the Nostromo suddenly disappeared. It's still ridiculous of course, but if we can accept a magic egg on the Sulaco, surely we can accept this.Thinking about it today... The people crying because founding Big Chap in middle of space but they never said anything with Ripley climbing the stairs while everything are sucked by the space (even the queen) in Aliens. This are sci-fi movies, they aren't meant to be realistic
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 17, 2024, 04:28:22 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 17, 2024, 04:28:22 AM
August is still a ways away. Any chance that the final product will change, removing such extremities by the time it releases?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 17, 2024, 04:36:50 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Mar 17, 2024, 04:36:50 AM
Otherwise... Resurrection Part II
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 17, 2024, 10:39:54 AM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 17, 2024, 10:39:54 AM
The could be changed I guess. Ahh I don't know.
Spoiler
CGI Holm
[close]
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 17, 2024, 11:18:09 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 17, 2024, 11:18:09 AM
Would be nice
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Prince on Mar 18, 2024, 01:13:58 PM
Post by: Prince on Mar 18, 2024, 01:13:58 PM
I'm not sure what their intention is with the trailer. They could play the minimal card and release a teaser much in the same vein as the original ( The egg cracking with haunting horrific sound design accompanying it ) which the fanbase will obviously love or, to get more general interest brewing (which this series desperately needs after the previous two underwhelming prequel films ) they could be a little more open to showing more of the films premise with various minor shots from the movie.
The marketing is going to be interesting for this anyhow. Outside of the fanbase there seems to be little interest in this atm but if they get it right with the trailer then who knows ?
I think there's alot riding on this film regarding its future on the big (and little) screen. If this isn't a success the Tv show will also take abit of a hit too.
The marketing is going to be interesting for this anyhow. Outside of the fanbase there seems to be little interest in this atm but if they get it right with the trailer then who knows ?
I think there's alot riding on this film regarding its future on the big (and little) screen. If this isn't a success the Tv show will also take abit of a hit too.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: RabidNinja on Mar 18, 2024, 03:07:34 PM
Post by: RabidNinja on Mar 18, 2024, 03:07:34 PM
If anything, this is going to be the ALIENS entry of the Promethus Arc from the sounds of it; Action-packed, full of violence, and not so much tip-toeing around mythology for the sake of storytelling - Romulus mythology aside.
I'm cautiously optimistic, given how Prom and Cov let me down over the years with it's bullshit "origin" story that created another storyline without it remotely relating to the original film; At least with the spoilers that i've read, this film will do exactly that with the biggest fan service possible; Big Chap and Ian Holm.
With all that being said, it's very on the nose with how they've worded all of this, and if loosely following the myth of Romulus/Remus;
I'm cautiously optimistic, given how Prom and Cov let me down over the years with it's bullshit "origin" story that created another storyline without it remotely relating to the original film; At least with the spoilers that i've read, this film will do exactly that with the biggest fan service possible; Big Chap and Ian Holm.
With all that being said, it's very on the nose with how they've worded all of this, and if loosely following the myth of Romulus/Remus;
- Big Chap is considered the first TRUE xenomorph, as is Romulus being the first king of rome; One of the greatest civilisations to ever exist; Similar in concept to how the xenomorph is considered the perfect organism.
I refuse to count David's bastardisation as it STILL doesn't explain the eggs from the SJ ship on LV-426. - Romulus and Remus were twin brothers, born between a human mother and the mythological god, Ares - a name oft translated as the "god of war" and often represented the more distasteful aspects of slaughter and warfare - Xeno nature to kill & hunt it's prey, and the film is allegedly action-nuts, so no shock there.
- They were placed inside a wicker basket by the king and left to die from exposure in the Tiber River before they were rescued by a female wolf who nursed them until they were rescued - Far stretch but similar to how Big Chap was left to die of exposure in space, before being found by WY and exploited as a bioweapon.
- Eventually their rescued by a farmer and his wife until they came of age and overthrew the king who ordered them killed - Ultimately breaking loose and slaughtering everyone on the WY station/ship and begin creating a hive. The genetic manipulation of the Xeno DNA will have far-reaching consequence and potentially newer hybrids......please be Kenner designs!
- Eventually their initial decision as to where to begin building Rome became heated until Romulus killed Remus and staked the origin point of Rome on Palatine (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Palatine) Hill - If this is any way reference to, well, <<< THAT, then I hope they redirect whatever direction Ridley was going with on the Prometheus strain/Black Goo, and ultimately situate the arc of Big Chap's legacy as the starting point for Xeno Prime and begin pumping out Queen Mothers, Praetorians, etc.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 18, 2024, 03:18:28 PM
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 18, 2024, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: RabidNinja on Mar 18, 2024, 03:07:34 PMIf anything, this is going to be the ALIENS entry of the Promethus Arc from the sounds of it; Action-packed, full of violence, and not so much tip-toeing around mythology for the sake of storytelling - Romulus mythology aside.
I'm cautiously optimistic, given how Prom and Cov let me down over the years with it's bullshit "origin" story that created another storyline without it remotely relating to the original film; At least with the spoilers that i've read, this film will do exactly that with the biggest fan service possible; Big Chap and Ian Holm.
With all that being said, it's very on the nose with how they've worded all of this, and if loosely following the myth of Romulus/Remus;
- Big Chap is considered the first TRUE xenomorph, as is Romulus being the first king of rome; One of the greatest civilisations to ever exist; Similar in concept to how the xenomorph is considered the perfect organism.
I refuse to count David's bastardisation as it STILL doesn't explain the eggs from the SJ ship on LV-426.- Romulus and Remus were twin brothers, born between a human mother and the mythological god, Ares - a name oft translated as the "god of war" and often represented the more distasteful aspects of slaughter and warfare - Xeno nature to kill & hunt it's prey, and the film is allegedly action-nuts, so no shock there.
- They were placed inside a wicker basket by the king and left to die from exposure in the Tiber River before they were rescued by a female wolf who nursed them until they were rescued - Far stretch but similar to how Big Chap was left to die of exposure in space, before being found by WY and exploited as a bioweapon.
- Eventually their rescued by a farmer and his wife until they came of age and overthrew the king who ordered them killed - Ultimately breaking loose and slaughtering everyone on the WY station/ship and begin creating a hive. The genetic manipulation of the Xeno DNA will have far-reaching consequence and potentially newer hybrids......please be Kenner designs!
- Eventually their initial decision as to where to begin building Rome became heated until Romulus killed Remus and staked the origin point of Rome on Palatine (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Palatine) Hill - If this is any way reference to, well, <<< THAT, then I hope they redirect whatever direction Ridley was going with on the Prometheus strain/Black Goo, and ultimately situate the arc of Big Chap's legacy as the starting point for Xeno Prime and begin pumping out Queen Mothers, Praetorians, etc.
Wow, this was a very interesting read and i do agree that the Romulus title must have been chosen for a reason.
The most obvious reason is that it's simply the name of the space station, Romulus.
But what if there is also a ship, the Remus that belongs to this station.
But now, the more symbolical meaning of Romulus does lead us into the origin of the Roman Empire, which could very well be the Hive of the perfect organism.
If Big Chap does end up being Romulus, then maybe there will be another Xeno that will take up Remus's place and role.
Now, i'm not saying that this will be word for word the legend of Rome with Xenos instead of twin brothers, but i think that mythology will have something to do with the actual themes of the movie.
Prometheus and Covenant had a lot of thematic connection to the overall narrative of the story, so Romulus will most likely do the same.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 18, 2024, 03:28:14 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 18, 2024, 03:28:14 PM
I remember Mike said the Romulus title will make sense when we'll see the movie.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 18, 2024, 03:31:15 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 18, 2024, 03:31:15 PM
Quote from: RabidNinja on Mar 18, 2024, 03:07:34 PMEventually their initial decision as to where to begin building Rome became heated until Romulus killed Remus and staked the origin point of Rome on Palatine (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Palatine) Hill - If this is any way reference to, well, <<< THAT, then I hope they redirect whatever direction Ridley was going with on the Prometheus strain/Black Goo, and ultimately situate the arc of Big Chap's legacy as the starting point for Xeno Prime and begin pumping out Queen Mothers, Praetorians, etc.
You have some rather interesting theories! Nice interpretation of that symbolism thing.
Funnily enough, I always suspected that David himself had a hand in the creation of Xenomorph Prime. The RPG even states that a number of colony missions in the early 2100s sent in that direction were lost, and the Covenant was headed more or less that way.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 18, 2024, 03:34:50 PM
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Mar 18, 2024, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 18, 2024, 03:31:15 PMYou have some rather interesting theories! Nice interpretation of that symbolism thing.Funnily enough, I always suspected that David himself had a hand in the creation of Xenomorph Prime. The RPG even states that a number of colony missions in the early 2100s sent in that direction were lost, and the Covenant was headed more or less that way.[/list]Quote from: RabidNinja on 18/03/2024, 15:07:34
- Eventually their initial decision as to where to begin building Rome became heated until Romulus killed Remus and staked the origin point of Rome on Palatine (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Palatine) Hill - If this is any way reference to, well, <<< THAT, then I hope they redirect whatever direction Ridley was going with on the Prometheus strain/Black Goo, and ultimately situate the arc of Big Chap's legacy as the starting point for Xeno Prime and begin pumping out Queen Mothers, Praetorians, etc.
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I'll be honest Badger, but i think that when it comes to the movies, you shouldn't use the RPG as basis for anything.
The RPG tried to organize and make something coherent out of the confusing timeline of the prequels and their cancelled projects, without making it seem like all of it was left abandoned or rebooted.
I really don't think that filmmakers and Noah Hawley will turn to the RPG as a guide for their movies.
If Fede Alvarez is anything to go by, then his research was mostly through old books, Giger's artfolio/portfolio, Isolation and Ron Cobb concept arts, etc..., but the RPG wasn't in it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: lv_226 on Mar 18, 2024, 03:36:36 PM
Post by: lv_226 on Mar 18, 2024, 03:36:36 PM
Quote from: RabidNinja on Mar 18, 2024, 03:07:34 PMIf anything, this is going to be the ALIENS entry of the Promethus Arc from the sounds of it; Action-packed, full of violence, and not so much tip-toeing around mythology for the sake of storytelling - Romulus mythology aside.
I'm cautiously optimistic, given how Prom and Cov let me down over the years with it's bullshit "origin" story that created another storyline without it remotely relating to the original film; At least with the spoilers that i've read, this film will do exactly that with the biggest fan service possible; Big Chap and Ian Holm.
With all that being said, it's very on the nose with how they've worded all of this, and if loosely following the myth of Romulus/Remus;
- Big Chap is considered the first TRUE xenomorph, as is Romulus being the first king of rome; One of the greatest civilisations to ever exist; Similar in concept to how the xenomorph is considered the perfect organism.
I refuse to count David's bastardisation as it STILL doesn't explain the eggs from the SJ ship on LV-426.- Romulus and Remus were twin brothers, born between a human mother and the mythological god, Ares - a name oft translated as the "god of war" and often represented the more distasteful aspects of slaughter and warfare - Xeno nature to kill & hunt it's prey, and the film is allegedly action-nuts, so no shock there.
- They were placed inside a wicker basket by the king and left to die from exposure in the Tiber River before they were rescued by a female wolf who nursed them until they were rescued - Far stretch but similar to how Big Chap was left to die of exposure in space, before being found by WY and exploited as a bioweapon.
- Eventually their rescued by a farmer and his wife until they came of age and overthrew the king who ordered them killed - Ultimately breaking loose and slaughtering everyone on the WY station/ship and begin creating a hive. The genetic manipulation of the Xeno DNA will have far-reaching consequence and potentially newer hybrids......please be Kenner designs!
- Eventually their initial decision as to where to begin building Rome became heated until Romulus killed Remus and staked the origin point of Rome on Palatine (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Palatine) Hill - If this is any way reference to, well, <<< THAT, then I hope they redirect whatever direction Ridley was going with on the Prometheus strain/Black Goo, and ultimately situate the arc of Big Chap's legacy as the starting point for Xeno Prime and begin pumping out Queen Mothers, Praetorians, etc.
Very interesting interpretation. I dig it. I think that the extended universe can get a bit messy, and I much prefer the original xenos (lifecycle included), the aliens xenos, and the queen. When we start getting into Praetorian's and all that, it gets a bit cringe. IMO, of course.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: razeak on Mar 18, 2024, 07:37:16 PM
Post by: razeak on Mar 18, 2024, 07:37:16 PM
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 18, 2024, 03:18:28 PMI'm going to keep my fingers crossed they just throw it all in with Big Chap and the bastard gets loose on Romulus and ganks David's pretenders. lol. And we find out that the Chap is indeed an ancient lineage.Quote from: RabidNinja on Mar 18, 2024, 03:07:34 PMIf anything, this is going to be the ALIENS entry of the Promethus Arc from the sounds of it; Action-packed, full of violence, and not so much tip-toeing around mythology for the sake of storytelling - Romulus mythology aside.
I'm cautiously optimistic, given how Prom and Cov let me down over the years with it's bullshit "origin" story that created another storyline without it remotely relating to the original film; At least with the spoilers that i've read, this film will do exactly that with the biggest fan service possible; Big Chap and Ian Holm.
With all that being said, it's very on the nose with how they've worded all of this, and if loosely following the myth of Romulus/Remus;
- Big Chap is considered the first TRUE xenomorph, as is Romulus being the first king of rome; One of the greatest civilisations to ever exist; Similar in concept to how the xenomorph is considered the perfect organism.
I refuse to count David's bastardisation as it STILL doesn't explain the eggs from the SJ ship on LV-426.- Romulus and Remus were twin brothers, born between a human mother and the mythological god, Ares - a name oft translated as the "god of war" and often represented the more distasteful aspects of slaughter and warfare - Xeno nature to kill & hunt it's prey, and the film is allegedly action-nuts, so no shock there.
- They were placed inside a wicker basket by the king and left to die from exposure in the Tiber River before they were rescued by a female wolf who nursed them until they were rescued - Far stretch but similar to how Big Chap was left to die of exposure in space, before being found by WY and exploited as a bioweapon.
- Eventually their rescued by a farmer and his wife until they came of age and overthrew the king who ordered them killed - Ultimately breaking loose and slaughtering everyone on the WY station/ship and begin creating a hive. The genetic manipulation of the Xeno DNA will have far-reaching consequence and potentially newer hybrids......please be Kenner designs!
- Eventually their initial decision as to where to begin building Rome became heated until Romulus killed Remus and staked the origin point of Rome on Palatine (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Palatine) Hill - If this is any way reference to, well, <<< THAT, then I hope they redirect whatever direction Ridley was going with on the Prometheus strain/Black Goo, and ultimately situate the arc of Big Chap's legacy as the starting point for Xeno Prime and begin pumping out Queen Mothers, Praetorians, etc.
Wow, this was a very interesting read and i do agree that the Romulus title must have been chosen for a reason.
The most obvious reason is that it's simply the name of the space station, Romulus.
But what if there is also a ship, the Remus that belongs to this station.
But now, the more symbolical meaning of Romulus does lead us into the origin of the Roman Empire, which could very well be the Hive of the perfect organism.
If Big Chap does end up being Romulus, then maybe there will be another Xeno that will take up Remus's place and role.
Now, i'm not saying that this will be word for word the legend of Rome with Xenos instead of twin brothers, but i think that mythology will have something to do with the actual themes of the movie.
Prometheus and Covenant had a lot of thematic connection to the overall narrative of the story, so Romulus will most likely do the same.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 18, 2024, 08:31:12 PM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 18, 2024, 08:31:12 PM
Quote from: razeak on Mar 18, 2024, 07:37:16 PMi d settle for that.Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 18, 2024, 03:18:28 PMI'm going to keep my fingers crossed they just throw it all in with Big Chap and the bastard gets loose on Romulus and ganks David's pretenders. lol. And we find out that the Chap is indeed an ancient lineage.Quote from: RabidNinja on Mar 18, 2024, 03:07:34 PMIf anything, this is going to be the ALIENS entry of the Promethus Arc from the sounds of it; Action-packed, full of violence, and not so much tip-toeing around mythology for the sake of storytelling - Romulus mythology aside.
I'm cautiously optimistic, given how Prom and Cov let me down over the years with it's bullshit "origin" story that created another storyline without it remotely relating to the original film; At least with the spoilers that i've read, this film will do exactly that with the biggest fan service possible; Big Chap and Ian Holm.
With all that being said, it's very on the nose with how they've worded all of this, and if loosely following the myth of Romulus/Remus;
- Big Chap is considered the first TRUE xenomorph, as is Romulus being the first king of rome; One of the greatest civilisations to ever exist; Similar in concept to how the xenomorph is considered the perfect organism.
I refuse to count David's bastardisation as it STILL doesn't explain the eggs from the SJ ship on LV-426.- Romulus and Remus were twin brothers, born between a human mother and the mythological god, Ares - a name oft translated as the "god of war" and often represented the more distasteful aspects of slaughter and warfare - Xeno nature to kill & hunt it's prey, and the film is allegedly action-nuts, so no shock there.
- They were placed inside a wicker basket by the king and left to die from exposure in the Tiber River before they were rescued by a female wolf who nursed them until they were rescued - Far stretch but similar to how Big Chap was left to die of exposure in space, before being found by WY and exploited as a bioweapon.
- Eventually their rescued by a farmer and his wife until they came of age and overthrew the king who ordered them killed - Ultimately breaking loose and slaughtering everyone on the WY station/ship and begin creating a hive. The genetic manipulation of the Xeno DNA will have far-reaching consequence and potentially newer hybrids......please be Kenner designs!
- Eventually their initial decision as to where to begin building Rome became heated until Romulus killed Remus and staked the origin point of Rome on Palatine (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Palatine) Hill - If this is any way reference to, well, <<< THAT, then I hope they redirect whatever direction Ridley was going with on the Prometheus strain/Black Goo, and ultimately situate the arc of Big Chap's legacy as the starting point for Xeno Prime and begin pumping out Queen Mothers, Praetorians, etc.
Wow, this was a very interesting read and i do agree that the Romulus title must have been chosen for a reason.
The most obvious reason is that it's simply the name of the space station, Romulus.
But what if there is also a ship, the Remus that belongs to this station.
But now, the more symbolical meaning of Romulus does lead us into the origin of the Roman Empire, which could very well be the Hive of the perfect organism.
If Big Chap does end up being Romulus, then maybe there will be another Xeno that will take up Remus's place and role.
Now, i'm not saying that this will be word for word the legend of Rome with Xenos instead of twin brothers, but i think that mythology will have something to do with the actual themes of the movie.
Prometheus and Covenant had a lot of thematic connection to the overall narrative of the story, so Romulus will most likely do the same.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Rudiger on Mar 19, 2024, 05:23:49 PM
Post by: Rudiger on Mar 19, 2024, 05:23:49 PM
They found it floating in space? In space? Oh boy.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 19, 2024, 05:30:15 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 19, 2024, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: Rudiger on Mar 19, 2024, 05:23:49 PMThey found it floating in space? In space? Oh boy.
They just did a Commander Data lifeform scan. It's that simple.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 19, 2024, 05:38:18 PM
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 19, 2024, 05:38:18 PM
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNnIxNHdrNGgxdzl4NmJnNGZia2twdm9wMm52ZDdnMDB3dzBia3plcSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/bC9l7awSddoIpzcWQA/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 19, 2024, 06:37:44 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 19, 2024, 06:37:44 PM
Though very diferent but aren't tardigrades able to survive in space? Though farfetched the Xenomorphs unconventional physiology, anatomy, exoskeletal structure provides the capacity to not consume oxygen and survive in a vacuum, the cold and intense pressure would kill about any earth life form but the alien has shown to be durable, even in Alien Isolation they were shown crawling on the outside of the Sevastopol station.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 19, 2024, 06:42:18 PM
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 19, 2024, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: Rudiger on Mar 19, 2024, 05:23:49 PMThey found it floating in space? In space? Oh boy.
There is an explanation for this...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 19, 2024, 07:46:49 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 19, 2024, 07:46:49 PM
Is there really ?! I don't wanna hear your goddamn explanation !
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 19, 2024, 10:24:37 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 19, 2024, 10:24:37 PM
Could be misunderstanding where the remains of Bigchap recovered or is it alive and kicking as the new threat in Alien Romulus? Getting in the impression it's alive and serves as a threat.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 19, 2024, 10:28:39 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 19, 2024, 10:28:39 PM
Nobody has been able to confirm that I think, but I could be misremembering.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 19, 2024, 10:33:50 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 19, 2024, 10:33:50 PM
It's found alive, but whether it's active in the film is unclear.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 19, 2024, 11:02:07 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 19, 2024, 11:02:07 PM
Fede Álvarez just posted on Instagram that reads Tomorrow, don't wanna speak too soon but he might be hinting at the teaser to come.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/iamfedealvarez/3327491659652274736?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=cTQ3MHdub2tncG8x
https://www.instagram.com/stories/iamfedealvarez/3327491659652274736?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=cTQ3MHdub2tncG8x
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 19, 2024, 11:03:33 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 19, 2024, 11:03:33 PM
Kinda feel for the guy, I'm sure the leaks have everyone up in arms on his side of the fence.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 19, 2024, 11:12:51 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 19, 2024, 11:12:51 PM
@ 426Buddy
Fault isn't Fede's, the leakers who was at the test screening and broke the NDA contracts at fault. It is annoying for him, the studios, the marketing team and those handling the movies release. Excited if this hint is for the teaser 😃
Fault isn't Fede's, the leakers who was at the test screening and broke the NDA contracts at fault. It is annoying for him, the studios, the marketing team and those handling the movies release. Excited if this hint is for the teaser 😃
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 19, 2024, 11:16:30 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 19, 2024, 11:16:30 PM
That's probably the main reason why they would release it early.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 19, 2024, 11:49:28 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 19, 2024, 11:49:28 PM
The studio is indeed aware of the leak and may be making course adjustments to the marketing schedule. Can't confirm that's the case, but with them knowing they may have changed plans.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 20, 2024, 12:10:03 AM
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 20, 2024, 12:10:03 AM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009899623621595136/1219799946820190268/image.png?ex=660c9e3a&is=65fa293a&hm=c6c712007431c2942b54f6e517c6ce9df6975b013f2964a0f5f5eac23f14f16a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=671&height=671)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 20, 2024, 12:24:55 AM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 20, 2024, 12:24:55 AM
@PAS Spinelli
That was Fede's post in instagram, you highlight and adjust the image setting revealing a snarling Xenomorph, oow Fede you crafty sonofa... it was staring at me in the face the whole time and I had at noticed. Well played.
That was Fede's post in instagram, you highlight and adjust the image setting revealing a snarling Xenomorph, oow Fede you crafty sonofa... it was staring at me in the face the whole time and I had at noticed. Well played.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2024, 08:27:13 AM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2024, 08:27:13 AM
Can Mike confirm this is an image from the film ?
Never mind I saw it in the other thread.
Never mind I saw it in the other thread.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Rudiger on Mar 20, 2024, 02:00:48 PM
Post by: Rudiger on Mar 20, 2024, 02:00:48 PM
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 19, 2024, 06:42:18 PMQuote from: Rudiger on Mar 19, 2024, 05:23:49 PMThey found it floating in space? In space? Oh boy.
There is an explanation for this...
Movie-goer: Must have been hard finding one little alien in the vast reaches of space.
Screenwriter-guy: Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 20, 2024, 04:29:40 PM
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 20, 2024, 04:29:40 PM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009899623621595136/1220045887183654982/image.png?ex=660d8346&is=65fb0e46&hm=e751837ebdd8b42467fe7252098f94dc1bf04486d2958f0ea55ce1944860c4c7&)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: RabidNinja on Mar 20, 2024, 04:42:23 PM
Post by: RabidNinja on Mar 20, 2024, 04:42:23 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 20, 2024, 04:29:40 PMhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009899623621595136/1220045887183654982/image.png?ex=660d8346&is=65fb0e46&hm=e751837ebdd8b42467fe7252098f94dc1bf04486d2958f0ea55ce1944860c4c7&Something tells me this might be part of the opening sequence pre-title card to really cement in just how much in-line this film will be with the original
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: chrisandy on Mar 20, 2024, 05:17:34 PM
Post by: chrisandy on Mar 20, 2024, 05:17:34 PM
How likely is it the protagonist is Amanda Ripley? Her character's name is Rain but Fede said her actual name will be revealed in the film.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: MudButt on Mar 20, 2024, 05:21:22 PM
Post by: MudButt on Mar 20, 2024, 05:21:22 PM
Quote from: chrisandy on Mar 20, 2024, 05:17:34 PMHow likely is it the protagonist is Amanda Ripley? Her character's name is Rain but Fede said her actual name will be revealed in the film.
He said her actual name is Raines. People call her Rain though.
https://www.gamesradar.com/alien-romulus-trailer-breakdown-fede-alvarez-interview/
QuoteWhat is her name?
They call her Rain, but her real name, you'll see in the movie. It's "Raines" with an "E" and an "S".
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 20, 2024, 08:46:16 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 20, 2024, 08:46:16 PM
@ MudButt
You mean a somewhat similar name to Rains from Alien³
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Daniel_Rains
You mean a somewhat similar name to Rains from Alien³
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Daniel_Rains
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 20, 2024, 09:01:56 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 20, 2024, 09:01:56 PM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 20, 2024, 08:46:16 PM@ MudButt
You mean a somewhat similar name to Rains from Alien³
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Daniel_Rains
Thanks for the shout out to Xenopedia! We appreciate it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: MudButt on Mar 20, 2024, 10:14:48 PM
Post by: MudButt on Mar 20, 2024, 10:14:48 PM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 20, 2024, 08:46:16 PM@ MudButt
You mean a somewhat similar name to Rains from Alien³
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Daniel_Rains
The last names are spelled differently. I can't imagine there's a relation.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2024, 10:39:38 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2024, 10:39:38 PM
That would serve no point to tie the main character of that movie to an extremely minor character from Alien 3 that very little people remember the name.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 20, 2024, 11:10:49 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 20, 2024, 11:10:49 PM
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 20, 2024, 10:14:48 PMQuote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 20, 2024, 08:46:16 PM@ MudButt
You mean a somewhat similar name to Rains from Alien³
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Daniel_Rains
The last names are spelled differently. I can't imagine there's a relation.
I should have specified NOT the last name but simply having the name Raines
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Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 21, 2024, 06:17:03 AM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 21, 2024, 06:17:03 AM
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 20, 2024, 05:21:22 PMQuote from: chrisandy on Mar 20, 2024, 05:17:34 PMHow likely is it the protagonist is Amanda Ripley? Her character's name is Rain but Fede said her actual name will be revealed in the film.
He said her actual name is Raines. People call her Rain though.
https://www.gamesradar.com/alien-romulus-trailer-breakdown-fede-alvarez-interview/QuoteWhat is her name?
They call her Rain, but her real name, you'll see in the movie. It's "Raines" with an "E" and an "S".
I can't recall one point hearing her called RainES. It's only Rain in the movie unless something has changed. Odd detail.
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Post by: cockroach on Mar 21, 2024, 08:51:25 AM
Post by: cockroach on Mar 21, 2024, 08:51:25 AM
From the teaser trailer... I'm trying to figure out what horrors happen to Isabela Merced's character that got a little bit of press recently.
In the interview Fede said the opening teaser scene is from her specific scene (cryo tube beds with blood in?
The crew t-shirt design makes me think a chestburster uses a body to hide or feed... maybe a chestburster comes out of someone (Aileen Wu?) & somehow climbs into Isabela's mouth/body whilst she is still alive? hiding in a cryo tube? Maybe it tries to feed on her from the inside out before bursting out of her somehow/eye?
Longshot lol... exciting times though!
In the interview Fede said the opening teaser scene is from her specific scene (cryo tube beds with blood in?
The crew t-shirt design makes me think a chestburster uses a body to hide or feed... maybe a chestburster comes out of someone (Aileen Wu?) & somehow climbs into Isabela's mouth/body whilst she is still alive? hiding in a cryo tube? Maybe it tries to feed on her from the inside out before bursting out of her somehow/eye?
Longshot lol... exciting times though!
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Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 21, 2024, 09:11:24 AM
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 21, 2024, 09:11:24 AM
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 21, 2024, 08:51:25 AMFrom the teaser trailer... I'm trying to figure out what horrors happen to Isabela Merced's character that got a little bit of press recently.Here's my guess...
In the interview Fede said the opening teaser scene is from her specific scene (cryo tube beds with blood in?
The crew t-shirt design makes me think a chestburster uses a body to hide or feed... maybe a chestburster comes out of someone (Aileen Wu?) & somehow climbs into Isabela's mouth/body whilst she is still alive? hiding in a cryo tube? Maybe it tries to feed on her from the inside out before bursting out of her somehow/eye?
Longshot lol... exciting times though!
That doesn't look like the headrest area with all the blood, more like where the feet would be. So maybe this Chestburster decides to take a route lower down on her body. If you know what I mean. :o
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 09:17:55 AM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 09:17:55 AM
I prefer not knowing and discover it in theaters. Shock value guys.
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Post by: Blackletter on Mar 21, 2024, 09:19:50 AM
Post by: Blackletter on Mar 21, 2024, 09:19:50 AM
The pic remembers me on this:
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2024, 09:22:37 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2024, 09:22:37 AM
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 20, 2024, 10:14:48 PMQuote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 20, 2024, 08:46:16 PM@ MudButt
You mean a somewhat similar name to Rains from Alien³
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Daniel_Rains
The last names are spelled differently. I can't imagine there's a relation.
Raines is also her first name. One of the interviews has him say her name is Raines, but people call her Rain.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 21, 2024, 09:25:56 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 21, 2024, 09:25:56 AM
"Rain ... Rain Ripley."
*music *
*music *
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Post by: cockroach on Mar 21, 2024, 09:42:57 AM
Post by: cockroach on Mar 21, 2024, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 21, 2024, 09:11:24 AMQuote from: cockroach on Mar 21, 2024, 08:51:25 AMFrom the teaser trailer... I'm trying to figure out what horrors happen to Isabela Merced's character that got a little bit of press recently.Here's my guess...
In the interview Fede said the opening teaser scene is from her specific scene (cryo tube beds with blood in?
The crew t-shirt design makes me think a chestburster uses a body to hide or feed... maybe a chestburster comes out of someone (Aileen Wu?) & somehow climbs into Isabela's mouth/body whilst she is still alive? hiding in a cryo tube? Maybe it tries to feed on her from the inside out before bursting out of her somehow/eye?
Longshot lol... exciting times though!
That doesn't look like the headrest area with all the blood, more like where the feet would be. So maybe this Chestburster decides to take a route lower down on her body. If you know what I mean. :o
OH GOD...
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Post by: SiL on Mar 21, 2024, 09:44:01 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 21, 2024, 09:44:01 AM
Pretty sure that was ruled out.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2024, 09:56:16 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2024, 09:56:16 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 21, 2024, 09:25:56 AM"Rain ... Rain Ripley."
*music *
It's something with C. It was in one of the interviews. Bare with.
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Post by: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 09:56:50 AM
Post by: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 09:56:50 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 21, 2024, 09:25:56 AM"Rain ... Rain Ripley."
*music *
Rain
* Looks down the camera
Ripley
*American Audience members start cheering and throwing popcorn
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2024, 09:58:25 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2024, 09:58:25 AM
Raines Carradine.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/alien-romulus-trailer-ridley-scott-1235856321/
In the picture caption for this. Though they call her Rain. Looks like we've got some proper stills that aren't just screengrabs in these interviews too. Will go through them again.
(https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/ALN-TF-RainElevator-1-EMBED-2024.jpg)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/alien-romulus-trailer-ridley-scott-1235856321/
In the picture caption for this. Though they call her Rain. Looks like we've got some proper stills that aren't just screengrabs in these interviews too. Will go through them again.
(https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/ALN-TF-RainElevator-1-EMBED-2024.jpg)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 21, 2024, 10:28:54 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 21, 2024, 10:28:54 AM
Wouldn't be an Alien flick without a tough lady toting some serious hardware!
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 21, 2024, 10:39:26 AM
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 21, 2024, 10:39:26 AM
I mean I think both Alien³ and Prometheus are indeed Alien flicks, I am actually mildly worried about how much that shot looks like an Aliens callback myself.
With how much of a fan we have in the Director here I just hope this will not be the Predators of Alien films but something a bit more.
With how much of a fan we have in the Director here I just hope this will not be the Predators of Alien films but something a bit more.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 21, 2024, 10:41:59 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 21, 2024, 10:41:59 AM
I'm expecting the Predators of Alien movies with better execution. It's got the same fan filmy vibe.
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Post by: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 10:44:02 AM
Post by: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 10:44:02 AM
Aye , it's all bit too well lit , like if AI made an Alien movie.
I will remain hopeful til the next trailer !
I will remain hopeful til the next trailer !
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 10:45:52 AM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 10:45:52 AM
As long as it's not boring like Predators.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 21, 2024, 11:07:24 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 21, 2024, 11:07:24 AM
Quote from: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 10:44:02 AMAye , it's all bit too well lit , like if AI made an Alien movie.
Alien Covenant took place in the middle of the day in places and managed to stay foreboding, so I wouldn't say that's an issue.
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Post by: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 11:23:36 AM
Post by: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 21, 2024, 11:07:24 AMQuote from: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 10:44:02 AMAye , it's all bit too well lit , like if AI made an Alien movie.
Alien Covenant took place in the middle of the day in places and managed to stay foreboding, so I wouldn't say that's an issue.
Aye but the middle of the day wasn't inside a dark ( well lit) space ship :laugh:
Less is more as they say.
It's just a teaser though, it looks aight, it's not setting the world on fire for me. Long way to go.
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Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 21, 2024, 11:24:17 AM
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 21, 2024, 11:24:17 AM
Alien coming out of someone's private parts would be really f**king dumb in my honest opinion.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 21, 2024, 11:58:18 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 21, 2024, 11:58:18 AM
Quote from: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 11:23:36 AMMy problem is that the cinematography looks quite clean and digital and artificial. It all looks like a set so far.Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 21, 2024, 11:07:24 AMQuote from: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 10:44:02 AMAye , it's all bit too well lit , like if AI made an Alien movie.
Alien Covenant took place in the middle of the day in places and managed to stay foreboding, so I wouldn't say that's an issue.
Aye but the middle of the day wasn't inside a dark ( well lit) space ship :laugh:
Less is more as they say.
It's just a teaser though, it looks aight, it's not setting the world on fire for me. Long way to go.
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Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 21, 2024, 12:02:06 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 21, 2024, 12:02:06 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 21, 2024, 11:24:17 AMAlien coming out of someone's private parts would be really f**king dumb in my honest opinion.Giving a warped horrifying combination of giving birth and a chestburster eruption, couldn't either be mind blowingly shocking and squeamish depending on the execution something to the effect of Xtro's birthing scene where a full grown man ruptures emerging out of a woman's torso tearing her up, or it could nonsensically ridiculous and laughable.
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Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 21, 2024, 12:02:48 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 21, 2024, 12:02:48 PM
Quote from: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 11:23:36 AMAye but the middle of the day wasn't inside a dark ( well lit) space ship :laugh:
Less is more as they say.
It's just a teaser though, it looks aight, it's not setting the world on fire for me. Long way to go.
I dunno, a lot of the original Alien was well-lit for the time. Even the chestburster scene was pretty bright.
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Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 21, 2024, 12:26:29 PM
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 21, 2024, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 21, 2024, 06:17:03 AMQuote from: MudButt on Mar 20, 2024, 05:21:22 PMQuote from: chrisandy on Mar 20, 2024, 05:17:34 PMHow likely is it the protagonist is Amanda Ripley? Her character's name is Rain but Fede said her actual name will be revealed in the film.
He said her actual name is Raines. People call her Rain though.
https://www.gamesradar.com/alien-romulus-trailer-breakdown-fede-alvarez-interview/QuoteWhat is her name?
They call her Rain, but her real name, you'll see in the movie. It's "Raines" with an "E" and an "S".
I can't recall one point hearing her called RainES. It's only Rain in the movie unless something has changed. Odd detail.
Can I ask is this "Disgusting scene" that good it's best to avoid spoiler to witness it in the cinema, is it that good?
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Post by: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 12:55:23 PM
Post by: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 12:55:23 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 21, 2024, 12:02:48 PMQuote from: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 11:23:36 AMAye but the middle of the day wasn't inside a dark ( well lit) space ship :laugh:
Less is more as they say.
It's just a teaser though, it looks aight, it's not setting the world on fire for me. Long way to go.
I dunno, a lot of the original Alien was well-lit for the time. Even the chestburster scene was pretty bright.
The chest buster scene was bright ( two reasons) because it was supposed to be a normal every day moment. We are eating dinner. Also because the white is a real contrast to the red outcome.
The girl in the trailer standing in front of a passageway with a gun has no real reason to be that well defined.
It's the " Aliens is back" shot.
Straight out of a fan short.
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Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 21, 2024, 12:57:29 PM
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Mar 21, 2024, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 21, 2024, 12:02:06 PMChestburster eruption is already a warped horrifying way of giving birth.Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 21, 2024, 11:24:17 AMAlien coming out of someone's private parts would be really f**king dumb in my honest opinion.Giving a warped horrifying combination of giving birth and a chestburster eruption, couldn't either be mind blowingly shocking and squeamish depending on the execution something to the effect of Xtro's birthing scene where a full grown man ruptures emerging out of a woman's torso tearing her up, or it could nonsensically ridiculous and laughable.
Making it straight up come out of someone's private parts just removes all the subtext and allegory out of Alien.
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 12:58:39 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 12:58:39 PM
Quote from: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 12:55:23 PMQuote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 21, 2024, 12:02:48 PMQuote from: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 11:23:36 AMAye but the middle of the day wasn't inside a dark ( well lit) space ship :laugh:
Less is more as they say.
It's just a teaser though, it looks aight, it's not setting the world on fire for me. Long way to go.
I dunno, a lot of the original Alien was well-lit for the time. Even the chestburster scene was pretty bright.
The chest buster scene was bright ( two reasons) because it was supposed to be a normal every day moment. We are eating dinner. Also because the white is a real contrast to the red outcome.
The girl in the trailer standing in front of a passageway with a gun has no real reason to be that well defined.
It's the " Aliens is back" shot.
Straight out of a fan short.
This shot was clearly conceived with a trailer utilisation in mind.
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Post by: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 01:01:35 PM
Post by: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 01:01:35 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 12:58:39 PMQuote from: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 12:55:23 PMQuote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 21, 2024, 12:02:48 PMQuote from: Highland on Mar 21, 2024, 11:23:36 AMAye but the middle of the day wasn't inside a dark ( well lit) space ship :laugh:
Less is more as they say.
It's just a teaser though, it looks aight, it's not setting the world on fire for me. Long way to go.
I dunno, a lot of the original Alien was well-lit for the time. Even the chestburster scene was pretty bright.
The chest buster scene was bright ( two reasons) because it was supposed to be a normal every day moment. We are eating dinner. Also because the white is a real contrast to the red outcome.
The girl in the trailer standing in front of a passageway with a gun has no real reason to be that well defined.
It's the " Aliens is back" shot.
Straight out of a fan short.
This shot was clearly conceived with a trailer utilisation in mind.
It's a bit too on the nose.
Mind you Prey did a very similar thing but ended up pretty awesome ❤️
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Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 21, 2024, 05:06:47 PM
Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 21, 2024, 05:06:47 PM
Well, this has been an interesting thread to wade through... :)
I have an irrational dislike of calling the original Alien 'Big Chap', but, yeah... This is hardly a new speculative theory. I remember a lot of fans speculating about this as a possible way to generate a new sequel, way back in the nineties. Finding Aliens floating in space have been depicted before (albeit, in expanded media, not primary cinematic canon). We don't know what they're physically composed of, which could potentially be something sensors can more easily detect in space - and sensors are pretty incredibly advanced, already, these days (the F-35 can detect human-sized targets on the ground at fairly long range). Heck, someone managed to find Ripley's shuttle without looking for it on purpose.
We're also assuming that the company didn't already have someone on a nearby intercept course (which tracked the shuttle after realising a dash to its own safe distance woudl be necessary). This would actually solve the riddle of how Ash and co planned to get the entire nostromo passed the stuff Ripley referenced in the sequel, when confronting Burke about how to get her and Newt through the quarantine scans. This would place the original film in an interesting new light, if the plan had always been to board the Nostromo, potentially saving the crew if they had managed to survive a little longer (unless they decided to 'disappear' them all, but money could just as easily solve that).
Ripley never had a victory to erase. The way she dealt with the Alien was always something which had a parallel with legends of how heroes dealt with demons and such: They didn't necessarily kill them, so much as exile them away from the world or their village. This was what Ripley did. The Alien wasn't mortally wounded. It isn't flailling. It's even already stopped bleeding, from what was shown. It just sort of starts to calmly curl up as it falls away from the craft. It was obviously alive, just unable to inflict further harm on anyone. The proverbial dragon wasn't slayed, it was exiled.
Therefore, the primary danger would be in the form of exposure to radiation and that's incredibly lethal, out in deep space. I often wondered if Ash's mention of the facehugger replacing cells with polarised silicon might have been an inference of such a survival mechanism for a heavily iriadiated environment. Or at least, a part of that puzzle. Now, radiation has notoriously awful effects upon DNA, but if the Alien is as capable of somehow reversing damage as has long been suspected... Perhaps that's a part of why its mysterious gene-related mechanisms would be so in scientific demand.
This, perhaps, also plays into what Ash perhaps meant by being a "perfect organism": A genetic phoenix, able to resurrect itself from extreme environmental situations most living things simply can't. 'Perfect', not because the end result is invulnerable to weapons, but because of something "structural".
Which, ironically, makes the Alien the living embodiment of the proverbial Fountain of Youth - and something just as ill-fated to try and pursue, from a karmic perspective.
I have an irrational dislike of calling the original Alien 'Big Chap', but, yeah... This is hardly a new speculative theory. I remember a lot of fans speculating about this as a possible way to generate a new sequel, way back in the nineties. Finding Aliens floating in space have been depicted before (albeit, in expanded media, not primary cinematic canon). We don't know what they're physically composed of, which could potentially be something sensors can more easily detect in space - and sensors are pretty incredibly advanced, already, these days (the F-35 can detect human-sized targets on the ground at fairly long range). Heck, someone managed to find Ripley's shuttle without looking for it on purpose.
We're also assuming that the company didn't already have someone on a nearby intercept course (which tracked the shuttle after realising a dash to its own safe distance woudl be necessary). This would actually solve the riddle of how Ash and co planned to get the entire nostromo passed the stuff Ripley referenced in the sequel, when confronting Burke about how to get her and Newt through the quarantine scans. This would place the original film in an interesting new light, if the plan had always been to board the Nostromo, potentially saving the crew if they had managed to survive a little longer (unless they decided to 'disappear' them all, but money could just as easily solve that).
Ripley never had a victory to erase. The way she dealt with the Alien was always something which had a parallel with legends of how heroes dealt with demons and such: They didn't necessarily kill them, so much as exile them away from the world or their village. This was what Ripley did. The Alien wasn't mortally wounded. It isn't flailling. It's even already stopped bleeding, from what was shown. It just sort of starts to calmly curl up as it falls away from the craft. It was obviously alive, just unable to inflict further harm on anyone. The proverbial dragon wasn't slayed, it was exiled.
Therefore, the primary danger would be in the form of exposure to radiation and that's incredibly lethal, out in deep space. I often wondered if Ash's mention of the facehugger replacing cells with polarised silicon might have been an inference of such a survival mechanism for a heavily iriadiated environment. Or at least, a part of that puzzle. Now, radiation has notoriously awful effects upon DNA, but if the Alien is as capable of somehow reversing damage as has long been suspected... Perhaps that's a part of why its mysterious gene-related mechanisms would be so in scientific demand.
This, perhaps, also plays into what Ash perhaps meant by being a "perfect organism": A genetic phoenix, able to resurrect itself from extreme environmental situations most living things simply can't. 'Perfect', not because the end result is invulnerable to weapons, but because of something "structural".
Which, ironically, makes the Alien the living embodiment of the proverbial Fountain of Youth - and something just as ill-fated to try and pursue, from a karmic perspective.
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As for deepfakery, I have no issues with that, providing it's done well, respectfully and, most of all, serves the story well. AI technology, especially for those techniques, radically evolves all the time and this project has made an effort to get serious professionals, who understand their craft, involved. If it's purely done for fan service, eh... We'll end up feeling like it was an unnecessary gimmick. But there could be any number of beneficial directions this could go in, story-wise. Until we view the finished product, we shouldn't pre-judge.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 21, 2024, 05:17:05 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 21, 2024, 05:17:05 PM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 21, 2024, 12:26:29 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 21, 2024, 06:17:03 AMQuote from: MudButt on Mar 20, 2024, 05:21:22 PMQuote from: chrisandy on Mar 20, 2024, 05:17:34 PMHow likely is it the protagonist is Amanda Ripley? Her character's name is Rain but Fede said her actual name will be revealed in the film.
He said her actual name is Raines. People call her Rain though.
https://www.gamesradar.com/alien-romulus-trailer-breakdown-fede-alvarez-interview/QuoteWhat is her name?
They call her Rain, but her real name, you'll see in the movie. It's "Raines" with an "E" and an "S".
I can't recall one point hearing her called RainES. It's only Rain in the movie unless something has changed. Odd detail.
Can I ask is this "Disgusting scene" that good it's best to avoid spoiler to witness it in the cinema, is it that good?
I've been of the mindset that everyone should avoid spoilers. But it's all pretty much out there with the leaks. Visually, I'd say stay away from everything if you haven't read the leaks.
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 05:20:10 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 05:20:10 PM
There are still important things that haven't been revealed yet, no ?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 21, 2024, 05:27:16 PM
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Mar 21, 2024, 05:27:16 PM
From skimming what people have been talking about via spoilers, I am fairly certain the entire movie's plot has been let out. I admit I've not read them all or watched certain asshole's videos to confirm all that. But from the chatter, it seems like it's all out there. The whole thing.
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Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 21, 2024, 07:02:58 PM
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 21, 2024, 07:02:58 PM
I'm dying to learn :laugh:
Spoiler
what the new hybrid is like
...another black goo creature?
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...another black goo creature?
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 21, 2024, 07:35:09 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 21, 2024, 07:35:09 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 21, 2024, 07:02:58 PMI'm dying to learn :laugh:Spoiler
what the new hybrid is like
...another black goo creature?
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That's the one I most want to not know going into the film.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 08:03:39 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 08:03:39 PM
Same.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: gise431 on Mar 21, 2024, 09:34:37 PM
Post by: gise431 on Mar 21, 2024, 09:34:37 PM
Just my thoughts
[details=Spoilers]What if the movie is linked to Alien Isolation instead of the original xenomorph from the film? If I remember correctly Alien isolation is 15 years after the events of the original film. Not to mention that Xeno was not toasty from the engines [/details]
[details=Spoilers]What if the movie is linked to Alien Isolation instead of the original xenomorph from the film? If I remember correctly Alien isolation is 15 years after the events of the original film. Not to mention that Xeno was not toasty from the engines [/details]
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 21, 2024, 11:27:25 PM
Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 21, 2024, 11:27:25 PM
Neither was the original, though. Was shoved off by inertia, not burned away.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 22, 2024, 01:58:27 AM
Post by: Scott Conover on Mar 22, 2024, 01:58:27 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 21, 2024, 05:06:47 PMWell, this has been an interesting thread to wade through... :)
I have an irrational dislike of calling the original Alien 'Big Chap', but, yeah... This is hardly a new speculative theory. I remember a lot of fans speculating about this as a possible way to generate a new sequel, way back in the nineties. Finding Aliens floating in space have been depicted before (albeit, in expanded media, not primary cinematic canon). We don't know what they're physically composed of, which could potentially be something sensors can more easily detect in space - and sensors are pretty incredibly advanced, already, these days (the F-35 can detect human-sized targets on the ground at fairly long range). Heck, someone managed to find Ripley's shuttle without looking for it on purpose.
We're also assuming that the company didn't already have someone on a nearby intercept course (which tracked the shuttle after realising a dash to its own safe distance woudl be necessary). This would actually solve the riddle of how Ash and co planned to get the entire nostromo passed the stuff Ripley referenced in the sequel, when confronting Burke about how to get her and Newt through the quarantine scans. This would place the original film in an interesting new light, if the plan had always been to board the Nostromo, potentially saving the crew if they had managed to survive a little longer (unless they decided to 'disappear' them all, but money could just as easily solve that).
Ripley never had a victory to erase. The way she dealt with the Alien was always something which had a parallel with legends of how heroes dealt with demons and such: They didn't necessarily kill them, so much as exile them away from the world or their village. This was what Ripley did. The Alien wasn't mortally wounded. It isn't flailling. It's even already stopped bleeding, from what was shown. It just sort of starts to calmly curl up as it falls away from the craft. It was obviously alive, just unable to inflict further harm on anyone. The proverbial dragon wasn't slayed, it was exiled.
Therefore, the primary danger would be in the form of exposure to radiation and that's incredibly lethal, out in deep space. I often wondered if Ash's mention of the facehugger replacing cells with polarised silicon might have been an inference of such a survival mechanism for a heavily iriadiated environment. Or at least, a part of that puzzle. Now, radiation has notoriously awful effects upon DNA, but if the Alien is as capable of somehow reversing damage as has long been suspected... Perhaps that's a part of why its mysterious gene-related mechanisms would be so in scientific demand.
This, perhaps, also plays into what Ash perhaps meant by being a "perfect organism": A genetic phoenix, able to resurrect itself from extreme environmental situations most living things simply can't. 'Perfect', not because the end result is invulnerable to weapons, but because of something "structural".
Which, ironically, makes the Alien the living embodiment of the proverbial Fountain of Youth - and something just as ill-fated to try and pursue, from a karmic perspective.Spoiler
As for deepfakery, I have no issues with that, providing it's done well, respectfully and, most of all, serves the story well. AI technology, especially for those techniques, radically evolves all the time and this project has made an effort to get serious professionals, who understand their craft, involved. If it's purely done for fan service, eh... We'll end up feeling like it was an unnecessary gimmick. But there could be any number of beneficial directions this could go in, story-wise. Until we view the finished product, we shouldn't pre-judge.[close]
Spitting facts with this holy shit. Xenomorphine got da wisdom
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 21, 2024, 05:27:16 PMFrom skimming what people have been talking about via spoilers, I am fairly certain the entire movie's plot has been let out. I admit I've not read them all or watched certain asshole's videos to confirm all that. But from the chatter, it seems like it's all out there. The whole thing.
The only thing I care about is not knowing deaths and thankfully we seem good on the front. Although the marketing YET AGAIN spelling out who the final girl/new Ripley is is truely pissing me off. Let us be surprised by these movies holy shit. 20th Century taking the wrong lessons from the Covenant marketing.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: E. Shaw on Mar 22, 2024, 02:10:20 AM
Post by: E. Shaw on Mar 22, 2024, 02:10:20 AM
People keep saying in the trailer that the Facehugger tentacle tube is being removed from the girl's mouth, but I kept seeing it as reaching into her mouth like the mural of Prometheus and perhaps a new variant of Facehugger that can shoot its tentacle to go down a throat from distance like a viper leaping.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 03:05:08 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 03:05:08 AM
"How dare the marketing tell us who the main character is" is an odd complaint.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 22, 2024, 05:10:56 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 22, 2024, 05:10:56 AM
Maybe not. It's possible that Pulse Rifle Girl puts a few rounds into an alien and we get to see how that would have gone down on the Nostromo, but with some disgusting Fede Alvarez twist.
That might be how they discover the aliens bleed acid in this.
That might be how they discover the aliens bleed acid in this.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Prez on Mar 22, 2024, 05:41:52 AM
Post by: Prez on Mar 22, 2024, 05:41:52 AM
FWIW when my brother saw Alien in 1979, there was speculation that ol Big Chap didn't die. I do remember him conveying this to me when I was a little kid.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 05:52:11 AM
Post by: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 05:52:11 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 22, 2024, 05:10:56 AMThat might be how they discover the aliens bleed acid in this.Bit late in the movie for that
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: oduodu on Mar 22, 2024, 05:59:39 AM
Post by: oduodu on Mar 22, 2024, 05:59:39 AM
so this movie IS going to be a "what we couldn t(or wanted to but didn t ) do in the past aaaaah!!!! now we can". good or bad i don t care. i personally wouldn t mind seeing the hull acid burned to pieces.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 22, 2024, 06:10:58 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 22, 2024, 06:10:58 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 05:52:11 AMQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 22, 2024, 05:10:56 AMThat might be how they discover the aliens bleed acid in this.Bit late in the movie for that
Maybe it'll use Alien 3's script as a basis for timing all the reveals to the characters.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 22, 2024, 07:25:42 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 22, 2024, 07:25:42 AM
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 22, 2024, 02:10:20 AMPeople keep saying in the trailer that the Facehugger tentacle tube is being removed from the girl's mouth, but I kept seeing it as reaching into her mouth like the mural of Prometheus and perhaps a new variant of Facehugger that can shoot its tentacle to go down a throat from distance like a viper leaping.
The fingers look pretty limp and it's not ripping anything off, so I'm guessing it's already done its thing and is being removed.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 12:52:44 PM
Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 12:52:44 PM
I find the idea of recovering the original ALIEN floating in space a bit contrived. Ash told Weyland Yutani everything they needed to know to secure a fresh sample from LV426. There would literally be no reason to search and acquire the original ALIEN with the exception of accidentally bumping into it on the way to LV426.
One thing I find confusing about the ALIEN franchise is Weyland Yutani's disregard for the technology of the derelict spacecraft. The company will seemingly stop at nothing to acquire the creature but appears to have no interest in technology left behind by an advanced species. I was hoping to see some type of recovery process.
One thing I find confusing about the ALIEN franchise is Weyland Yutani's disregard for the technology of the derelict spacecraft. The company will seemingly stop at nothing to acquire the creature but appears to have no interest in technology left behind by an advanced species. I was hoping to see some type of recovery process.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 01:02:36 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 01:02:36 PM
Ash didn't tell WY anything. There was no communication from the Nostromo to anyone in the movie and then he exploded.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 01:13:21 PM
Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 01:13:21 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 01:02:36 PMAsh didn't tell WY anything. There was no communication from the Nostromo to anyone in the movie and then he exploded.
Really? IMO the Special order angle implied some sort of two way communication was going on. At the very least WT knew what was going on ahead of time by adding Ash to the crew just before leaving Thedus.
Special Order 937 was a classified retrieval order given by the Weyland-Yutani Corporation to Science Officer Ash aboard the USCSS Nostromo in 2122. The order tasked Ash with ensuring the retrieval and survival of a sample specimen of the species Xenomorph XX121, and stipulated that this task superseded all other priorities, even the safety and survival of the crew. It was Special Order 937 that caused Ash to surreptitiously work against the rest of the ship's crew and aid the Alien in its survival.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Jonjamess on Mar 22, 2024, 01:34:07 PM
Post by: Jonjamess on Mar 22, 2024, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 01:13:21 PMQuote from: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 01:02:36 PMAsh didn't tell WY anything. There was no communication from the Nostromo to anyone in the movie and then he exploded.
Really? IMO the Special order angle implied some sort of two way communication was going on. At the very least WT knew what was going on ahead of time by adding Ash to the crew just before leaving Thedus.
Special Order 937 was a classified retrieval order given by the Weyland-Yutani Corporation to Science Officer Ash aboard the USCSS Nostromo in 2122. The order tasked Ash with ensuring the retrieval and survival of a sample specimen of the species Xenomorph XX121, and stipulated that this task superseded all other priorities, even the safety and survival of the crew. It was Special Order 937 that caused Ash to surreptitiously work against the rest of the ship's crew and aid the Alien in its survival.
The Nostromo is in NO contact with anyone during the the events of Alien. They are too far out.
How else would Ripley have been lost for 57 years? If WY were in direct communication with Ash they'd know where to find Ripley and more importantly where to find the Derelict and LV-426.
So that would make the events of Aliens completely non sensical wouldn't it?
At no point in the movie Alien does any REAL person communicate back to Ash, Dallas or Ripley. Its all computer algorithms, MUTHUR and fail safes not real company people.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 01:40:08 PM
Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 01:40:08 PM
Quote from: Jonjamess on Mar 22, 2024, 01:34:07 PMQuote from: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 01:13:21 PMQuote from: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 01:02:36 PMAsh didn't tell WY anything. There was no communication from the Nostromo to anyone in the movie and then he exploded.
Really? IMO the Special order angle implied some sort of two way communication was going on. At the very least WT knew what was going on ahead of time by adding Ash to the crew just before leaving Thedus.
Special Order 937 was a classified retrieval order given by the Weyland-Yutani Corporation to Science Officer Ash aboard the USCSS Nostromo in 2122. The order tasked Ash with ensuring the retrieval and survival of a sample specimen of the species Xenomorph XX121, and stipulated that this task superseded all other priorities, even the safety and survival of the crew. It was Special Order 937 that caused Ash to surreptitiously work against the rest of the ship's crew and aid the Alien in its survival.
The Nostromo is in NO contact with anyone during the the events of Alien. They are too far out.
How else would Ripley have been lost for 57 years? If WY were in direct communication with Ash they'd know where to find Ripley and more importantly where to find the Derelict and LV-426.
So that would make the events of Aliens completely non sensical wouldn't it?
At no point in the movie Alien does any REAL person communicate back to Ash, Dallas or Ripley. Its all computer algorithms, MUTHUR and fail safes not real company people.
Read what you wrote and then extrapolate that to being able to find the original Xeno floating in space.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 22, 2024, 01:46:31 PM
Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 22, 2024, 01:46:31 PM
The thing about Ash is, if he had any communications, it should have included the grid reference Ripley gave in the sequel.
I've mentioned a few times on forums how it might not have been the company which detected the signal. It could have been someone else (including a freelancer) and they purchased the data. Either way, they knew the neighbourhood it originated, but not the specific location. The whole point of sending the Nostromo was because it was a haphazard, budget-saving way of poking around the bear cave with plausible deniability.
If the corporation knew about what the source of the signal was and the location, then why wasn't it already cleared out, by the future time of Hadley's Hope? A whole base should have been constructed around the ship (if it couldn't physically be relocated to elsewhere). All the eggs (and whatever else is there) should have been transferred somewhere. There shouldn't be anything unsecured for the events of 'Aliens' to be caused by.
Ash communicating back, but only enough to state, "Package secured," feels a little bit redundant. :)
There certainly wasn't any two-way communication, either. We know that even 57 years later, messages take ages to be received and the same amount of time for something to be sent back.
The exception would be, as I speculated above, if they actually had a craft readying to intercept the Nostromo. Buuut... One has to wonder, if that was the case, why even send the Nostromo? Why not just directly send that retrieval team?
I've mentioned a few times on forums how it might not have been the company which detected the signal. It could have been someone else (including a freelancer) and they purchased the data. Either way, they knew the neighbourhood it originated, but not the specific location. The whole point of sending the Nostromo was because it was a haphazard, budget-saving way of poking around the bear cave with plausible deniability.
If the corporation knew about what the source of the signal was and the location, then why wasn't it already cleared out, by the future time of Hadley's Hope? A whole base should have been constructed around the ship (if it couldn't physically be relocated to elsewhere). All the eggs (and whatever else is there) should have been transferred somewhere. There shouldn't be anything unsecured for the events of 'Aliens' to be caused by.
Ash communicating back, but only enough to state, "Package secured," feels a little bit redundant. :)
There certainly wasn't any two-way communication, either. We know that even 57 years later, messages take ages to be received and the same amount of time for something to be sent back.
The exception would be, as I speculated above, if they actually had a craft readying to intercept the Nostromo. Buuut... One has to wonder, if that was the case, why even send the Nostromo? Why not just directly send that retrieval team?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Jonjamess on Mar 22, 2024, 01:57:23 PM
Post by: Jonjamess on Mar 22, 2024, 01:57:23 PM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 01:40:08 PMBut I'm stating things irrelevant of the new movie which we haven't seen yet.Quote from: Jonjamess on Mar 22, 2024, 01:34:07 PMQuote from: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 01:13:21 PMQuote from: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 01:02:36 PMAsh didn't tell WY anything. There was no communication from the Nostromo to anyone in the movie and then he exploded.
Really? IMO the Special order angle implied some sort of two way communication was going on. At the very least WT knew what was going on ahead of time by adding Ash to the crew just before leaving Thedus.
Special Order 937 was a classified retrieval order given by the Weyland-Yutani Corporation to Science Officer Ash aboard the USCSS Nostromo in 2122. The order tasked Ash with ensuring the retrieval and survival of a sample specimen of the species Xenomorph XX121, and stipulated that this task superseded all other priorities, even the safety and survival of the crew. It was Special Order 937 that caused Ash to surreptitiously work against the rest of the ship's crew and aid the Alien in its survival.
The Nostromo is in NO contact with anyone during the the events of Alien. They are too far out.
How else would Ripley have been lost for 57 years? If WY were in direct communication with Ash they'd know where to find Ripley and more importantly where to find the Derelict and LV-426.
So that would make the events of Aliens completely non sensical wouldn't it?
At no point in the movie Alien does any REAL person communicate back to Ash, Dallas or Ripley. Its all computer algorithms, MUTHUR and fail safes not real company people.
Read what you wrote and then extrapolate that to being able to find the original Xeno floating in space.
The original Alien movie makes it clear there is no 2 way communication happening.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 02:17:52 PM
Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 22, 2024, 01:46:31 PMThe thing about Ash is, if he had any communications, it should have included the grid reference Ripley gave in the sequel.
I've mentioned a few times on forums how it might not have been the company which detected the signal. It could have been someone else (including a freelancer) and they purchased the data. Either way, they knew the neighbourhood it originated, but not the specific location. The whole point of sending the Nostromo was because it was a haphazard, budget-saving way of poking around the bear cave with plausible deniability.
If the corporation knew about what the source of the signal was and the location, then why wasn't it already cleared out, by the future time of Hadley's Hope? A whole base should have been constructed around the ship (if it couldn't physically be relocated to elsewhere). All the eggs (and whatever else is there) should have been transferred somewhere. There shouldn't be anything unsecured for the events of 'Aliens' to be caused by.
Ash communicating back, but only enough to state, "Package secured," feels a little bit redundant. :)
There certainly wasn't any two-way communication, either. We know that even 57 years later, messages take ages to be received and the same amount of time for something to be sent back.
The exception would be, as I speculated above, if they actually had a craft readying to intercept the Nostromo. Buuut... One has to wonder, if that was the case, why even send the Nostromo? Why not just directly send that retrieval team?
Even in the absence of no two-way communication, my point still stands. Your saying that the general consensus is that there is no two-way communication. Lets say then that special order 937 is some sort of non xeno specific carte blanche rule baked into every spacecraft computer. Otherwise, the alternative is prior knowledge of the Xeno's existence.
So lets go with the assumption that all my assumptions are incorrect :)
How does WY acquire the original Xeno floating in space, bring it to a research station, extract black goo, and lose containment before the events of ALIENS when they supposedly know nothing about the Xeno until Ripley is thawed out.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 22, 2024, 02:28:01 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 22, 2024, 02:28:01 PM
As of right now, it seems to be possible only because the premise of this movie is flawed already. But we'll see how they present it during the course of the film.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: David Weyland on Mar 22, 2024, 04:23:41 PM
Post by: David Weyland on Mar 22, 2024, 04:23:41 PM
I think this is all easily solved by the following-
The whole WY special order thing and Androids turning against their human masters will be down to David or his influence over the AI of Weyland Yutani rather than some corrupt greedy shadowy Corporate human being types being behind it.
It makes the gaps in human knowledge of the Nostromo more believable with the ability of AI to wipe/edit the logs, and ties in with the aims within the franchise post Covenant to have humanity as something expendable or to get rid of.
This is a more scary(imo) and watertight solution to maintaining franchise continuity.
The whole WY special order thing and Androids turning against their human masters will be down to David or his influence over the AI of Weyland Yutani rather than some corrupt greedy shadowy Corporate human being types being behind it.
It makes the gaps in human knowledge of the Nostromo more believable with the ability of AI to wipe/edit the logs, and ties in with the aims within the franchise post Covenant to have humanity as something expendable or to get rid of.
This is a more scary(imo) and watertight solution to maintaining franchise continuity.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 22, 2024, 04:52:58 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 22, 2024, 04:52:58 PM
The still remaining engineer base on LV-223 with all those urns say 'hi' to The Company too...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 22, 2024, 08:21:58 PM
Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 22, 2024, 08:21:58 PM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 02:17:52 PMHow does WY acquire the original Xeno floating in space, bring it to a research station, extract black goo, and lose containment before the events of ALIENS when they supposedly know nothing about the Xeno until Ripley is thawed out.
That's what we'll have to wait for to find out. :)
If they already knew about the Alien was, it stands to reason they should have sent a properly equipped and trained mission, instead of the Nostromo crew.
Alternatively, it'll be like a certain recent book and the 'how' of it will be hand-waved as a that's-a-story-for-another-time. Which isn't necessarily bad... That's basically what Ash's, "There is an explanation for this, you know," line was. We accepted that, because it's suitably ominous and the real meat of the story is the crew's immediate situation.
Let's face it, if we can accept the third film's magical teleporting egg and the fourth film's unclear cloning shenanigans, will it really upset the apple cart if it's just alluded to that they picked the thing up without elaborating on details?
Some character saying, "It had been assumed our investment was a loss. But we were able to salvage something."
It'd be fine, IMO. We don't need to know the details, just that it happened. Our Willing Suspension Of Disbelief would still remain intact.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 22, 2024, 09:17:25 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Mar 22, 2024, 09:17:25 PM
Quote from: David Weyland on Mar 22, 2024, 04:23:41 PMI think this is all easily solved by the following-
The whole WY special order thing and Androids turning against their human masters will be down to David or his influence over the AI of Weyland Yutani rather than some corrupt greedy shadowy Corporate human being types being behind it.
It makes the gaps in human knowledge of the Nostromo more believable with the ability of AI to wipe/edit the logs, and ties in with the aims within the franchise post Covenant to have humanity as something expendable or to get rid of.
This is a more scary(imo) and watertight solution to maintaining franchise continuity.
Like it!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 09:35:30 PM
Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 22, 2024, 09:35:30 PM
This might be better in the ALIEN forum, but my interest is how things from the original tie into Romulus.
My assumption from watching ALIEN many years ago (before the prequels) was that Ash and the company knew from the get-go what they were looking for. Maybe I was connecting dots that weren't there, but things seemed pretty obvious to me. I didn't realize this was a gray area among fandom. Some of this is copy/paste from the Wiki.
1) Science officer swapped two days before leaving Thedus with an android.
2) Ash ensures that the crew investigates by pointing out that failure to do so will incur a total forfeiture of their personal shares in Weyland-Yutani, per company regulations.
3) Ripley is able to determine that the beacon is likely some form of warning, and not an SOS as previously assumed. Ash convinces her not to go after the landing party to warn them.
4) Once the search party returns, Ash breaks quarantine protocol (disobeying Ripley, the ship's ranking officer among the crew members remaining onboard) and allows the infected Kane back on board, seemingly out of compassion, and is later seen marveling at the creature attached to him.
Ash is by the book on quoting forfeiture of shares, but decidedly anti by the book when it comes to quarantine protocol.
5) Ash repeatedly ignores Parker's urging that Kane be placed in frozen suspension.
My though was always that Wayland Yutani knew about the signal and had decoded it prior to the Nostromo leaving Thedus. It's possible they lacked military or research assets in the area and decided to use the Nostromo to get a sample and planted Ash to oversee the recovery. This is speculation, but maybe the bioweapon division was in a rush to obtain a sample before a competitor discovered the signal. Ripley mentions the company weapons division when connecting Ash's severed head.
Those are my bullet points for the company knowing about the signal and its nature prior to the events in ALIEN. Things get a little fuzzy once ALIENS is introduced. Some people have mentioned WY didn't know about the derelict in ALIENS. One could argue that the bioweapons division did know, but the civilian division did not. That still doesn't explain why they didn't go check on things when the Nostromo didn't show up as expected. Maybe Romulus will shed some light on that continuity.
My assumption from watching ALIEN many years ago (before the prequels) was that Ash and the company knew from the get-go what they were looking for. Maybe I was connecting dots that weren't there, but things seemed pretty obvious to me. I didn't realize this was a gray area among fandom. Some of this is copy/paste from the Wiki.
1) Science officer swapped two days before leaving Thedus with an android.
2) Ash ensures that the crew investigates by pointing out that failure to do so will incur a total forfeiture of their personal shares in Weyland-Yutani, per company regulations.
3) Ripley is able to determine that the beacon is likely some form of warning, and not an SOS as previously assumed. Ash convinces her not to go after the landing party to warn them.
4) Once the search party returns, Ash breaks quarantine protocol (disobeying Ripley, the ship's ranking officer among the crew members remaining onboard) and allows the infected Kane back on board, seemingly out of compassion, and is later seen marveling at the creature attached to him.
Ash is by the book on quoting forfeiture of shares, but decidedly anti by the book when it comes to quarantine protocol.
5) Ash repeatedly ignores Parker's urging that Kane be placed in frozen suspension.
My though was always that Wayland Yutani knew about the signal and had decoded it prior to the Nostromo leaving Thedus. It's possible they lacked military or research assets in the area and decided to use the Nostromo to get a sample and planted Ash to oversee the recovery. This is speculation, but maybe the bioweapon division was in a rush to obtain a sample before a competitor discovered the signal. Ripley mentions the company weapons division when connecting Ash's severed head.
Those are my bullet points for the company knowing about the signal and its nature prior to the events in ALIEN. Things get a little fuzzy once ALIENS is introduced. Some people have mentioned WY didn't know about the derelict in ALIENS. One could argue that the bioweapons division did know, but the civilian division did not. That still doesn't explain why they didn't go check on things when the Nostromo didn't show up as expected. Maybe Romulus will shed some light on that continuity.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 09:36:56 PM
Post by: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 09:36:56 PM
They knew something was there, but weren't sure what.
We see what happens when they know something is there in Alien 3 - a dedicated, armed task force.
We see what happens when they know something is there in Alien 3 - a dedicated, armed task force.
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Post by: E. Shaw on Mar 22, 2024, 11:12:18 PM
Post by: E. Shaw on Mar 22, 2024, 11:12:18 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 22, 2024, 07:25:42 AMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 22, 2024, 02:10:20 AMPeople keep saying in the trailer that the Facehugger tentacle tube is being removed from the girl's mouth, but I kept seeing it as reaching into her mouth like the mural of Prometheus and perhaps a new variant of Facehugger that can shoot its tentacle to go down a throat from distance like a viper leaping.
The fingers look pretty limp and it's not ripping anything off, so I'm guessing it's already done its thing and is being removed.
Ah, I suppose I was juat hoping for a new facehugger variant and saw what I wanted to see.
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Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 23, 2024, 12:14:16 AM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 23, 2024, 12:14:16 AM
I don't think that Burke sincerely not knowing about derelict or the alien effects anything because just being a high ranking company employee doesn't guarantee someone knows about the high level secret info, they aren't a monolith. "Don't let the left hand know what the right hand is doing" or whatever the phrase is.
Projects like the cold forge could be happening in canon at the time of Aliens but the events of Hadley's hope could be the fault of Burke negligence and greed.
ps: I just woke up from a nap so not sure if I'm making any sense :laugh:
Projects like the cold forge could be happening in canon at the time of Aliens but the events of Hadley's hope could be the fault of Burke negligence and greed.
ps: I just woke up from a nap so not sure if I'm making any sense :laugh:
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Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 23, 2024, 12:35:37 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Mar 23, 2024, 12:35:37 AM
Imagine Burke surviving the events of Aliens with a couple of live specimens only to be told by the bio-weapons division: "Yeah, thanks, but we already have plenty of those."
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Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 23, 2024, 01:22:47 AM
Post by: NoStyleDutch on Mar 23, 2024, 01:22:47 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 23, 2024, 12:35:37 AMImagine Burke surviving the events of Aliens with a couple of live specimens only to be told by the bio-weapons division: "Yeah, thanks, but we already have plenty of those."
I actually love that idea! lol the disappointment on his face after thinking he did good haha
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 23, 2024, 10:40:33 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 23, 2024, 10:40:33 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 23, 2024, 12:35:37 AMImagine Burke surviving the events of Aliens with a couple of live specimens only to be told by the bio-weapons division: "Yeah, thanks, but we already have plenty of those."
We need Ralfy to weigh in on this important matter.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 23, 2024, 12:44:36 PM
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 23, 2024, 12:44:36 PM
The setup of The Cold Forge does not make much sense in terms of the Alien, but that hardly matters, because the rest of it is so good.
"The Eggs on The Cold Forge"
"The Eggs on The Cold Forge"
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Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 23, 2024, 01:55:41 PM
Post by: Mustangjeff on Mar 23, 2024, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 23, 2024, 12:14:16 AMI don't think that Burke sincerely not knowing about derelict or the alien effects anything because just being a high ranking company employee doesn't guarantee someone knows about the high level secret info, they aren't a monolith. "Don't let the left hand know what the right hand is doing" or whatever the phrase is.
Yes, exactly. We see this today among large companies like GE, Boeing, and Rolls-Royce who have military industrial ties. A company like GE makes everything from light bulbs to fighter jet engines.
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Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 01, 2024, 07:05:07 AM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 01, 2024, 07:05:07 AM
I don't mind that they got the og Alien by following the Nostromo's flight path (or its shuttles). I'm surprised that I don't remember thinking about this at all, which is weird because I frequently thought about somebody catching the Alien Queen. It's all math, so I don't mind that they could find the Alien as long as there is an explanation as to what gave them the starting point to look (Nostromo sending out information through network registering an ejected lifeboat, etc) and not just a "Hey, here is a cave painting that we can totally get stellar navigation points off of lol. To me, this all opens another can of worms.
The Alien would be nice to collect, but WHY go for an individual Alien in space when you can just continue to follow the trajectory to the jockey ship and get both eggs, and jockey tech? I'm sure yall have already talked about this, but I'm not reading the 30 plus pages.
And then the, we broke the Alien's DNA down to the black goo. f**king black goo. UUGGGGHHHH.
So it sounds like it will end up being a cross between Gibson's Alien 3, and the first and second movie. I was hoping to not have Prometheus tie ins because Prometheus is terrible, but I guess we will see. I will now go in with jaded eyes. I should've held out and just been disappointed in theaters that Scott is still slipping em in.
The Alien would be nice to collect, but WHY go for an individual Alien in space when you can just continue to follow the trajectory to the jockey ship and get both eggs, and jockey tech? I'm sure yall have already talked about this, but I'm not reading the 30 plus pages.
And then the, we broke the Alien's DNA down to the black goo. f**king black goo. UUGGGGHHHH.
So it sounds like it will end up being a cross between Gibson's Alien 3, and the first and second movie. I was hoping to not have Prometheus tie ins because Prometheus is terrible, but I guess we will see. I will now go in with jaded eyes. I should've held out and just been disappointed in theaters that Scott is still slipping em in.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 07:45:43 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 07:45:43 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 01, 2024, 07:05:07 AMI don't mind that they got the og Alien by following the Nostromo's flight path (or its shuttles). I'm surprised that I don't remember thinking about this at all, which is weird because I frequently thought about somebody catching the Alien Queen. It's all math, so I don't mind that they could find the Alien as long as there is an explanation as to what gave them the starting point to look (Nostromo sending out information through network registering an ejected lifeboat, etc) and not just a "Hey, here is a cave painting that we can totally get stellar navigation points off of lol. To me, this all opens another can of worms.
The Alien would be nice to collect, but WHY go for an individual Alien in space when you can just continue to follow the trajectory to the jockey ship and get both eggs, and jockey tech? I'm sure yall have already talked about this, but I'm not reading the 30 plus pages.
And then the, we broke the Alien's DNA down to the black goo. f**king black goo. UUGGGGHHHH.
So it sounds like it will end up being a cross between Gibson's Alien 3, and the first and second movie. I was hoping to not have Prometheus tie ins because Prometheus is terrible, but I guess we will see. I will now go in with jaded eyes. I should've held out and just been disappointed in theaters that Scott is still slipping em in.
Plenty of explanations. None of them good.
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Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 10:32:37 AM
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 10:32:37 AM
Yeah I'm really hope all this finding big chap being found floating in space is just a rumor. Its utterly stupid. The chances are extremely slim. space is vast. For someone else to just find it is too coincidental. Where is these rumors coming from anyway? and is there proof or sources?>
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Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 10:33:37 AM
Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 10:33:37 AM
I hope they don't even try to explain it. Just let it be dumb. "We found it and then..." the end.
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 01, 2024, 10:42:48 AM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 01, 2024, 10:42:48 AM
It's pretty much confirmed at this point, the leaks indicate that.
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Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 10:44:26 AM
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 10:44:26 AM
That is assuming it is true, I'm hoping its not of course.
What do we see in the leaks that has led folks to say big chap is back? All I saw is something unclear being carried.
What do we see in the leaks that has led folks to say big chap is back? All I saw is something unclear being carried.
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Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 10:58:45 AM
Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 10:58:45 AM
The leaks outright state it. You're referencing a trailer.
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Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 10:59:44 AM
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 10:59:44 AM
Ok, what leak exactly? can you post it?
The first page here obviously mentions it but Scified is hardly reliable.
The first page here obviously mentions it but Scified is hardly reliable.
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Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 01, 2024, 11:02:56 AM
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 01, 2024, 11:02:56 AM
Yeah...space might be fat-ass big, but we must understand that the Alien universe is not the same as ours. So in order to be entertaimed, a suspension of disbelief is required. :)
Also, what SiL says about the leaks is correct.
Also, what SiL says about the leaks is correct.
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Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:06:42 AM
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:06:42 AM
Well I'm not as excited to watch this movie as before. Oh well, guess we should have expected such a plot after the likes of Covenant.
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Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:12:38 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:12:38 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:06:42 AMWell I'm not as excited to watch this movie as before. Oh well, guess we should have expected such a plot after the likes of Covenant.
Really, bashing Covenant is no longer cool. Especially since Alvarez has stated that Romulus will include references to it.
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Post by: TheBATMAN on Apr 01, 2024, 11:14:44 AM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Apr 01, 2024, 11:14:44 AM
How come the leaks have confirmed Big Chap was recovered, but not if he's running around in the actual film? Didnt all this come from test screening leaks?
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Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 11:16:26 AM
Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 11:16:26 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 01, 2024, 11:14:44 AMHow come the leaks have confirmed Big Chap was recovered, but not if he's running around in the actual film? Didnt all this come from test screening leaks?The most detailed leak was from Mr H on YouTube, you can find out more there.
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Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:20:53 AM
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:12:38 AMQuote from: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:06:42 AMWell I'm not as excited to watch this movie as before. Oh well, guess we should have expected such a plot after the likes of Covenant.
Really, bashing Covenant is no longer cool. Especially since Alvarez has stated that Romulus will include references to it.
Until it is officially decanonized, I will always criticize it. Actually, it will always be worth criticizing.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 11:16:26 AMMr H has plagiarized before, so not sure how reliable it is.Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 01, 2024, 11:14:44 AMHow come the leaks have confirmed Big Chap was recovered, but not if he's running around in the actual film? Didnt all this come from test screening leaks?The most detailed leak was from Mr H on YouTube, you can find out more there.
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Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:32:06 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:20:53 AMUntil it is officially decanonized
Which ain't ever gonna happen.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:33:04 AM
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:33:04 AM
Never say never. :laugh:
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Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 01, 2024, 11:34:30 AM
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 01, 2024, 11:34:30 AM
I may be remembering wrong, but I think Mike's Monsters confirmed that the leaks were true...
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:35:05 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:35:05 AM
Never say never, indeed. Everything is canon.. until it's not. We almost had that with the now defunct Alien 5. So the possibility exists, especially more so if Romulus fails.
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Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:38:42 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:38:42 AM
Decanonization only applies to stuff that is TRULY shit, like ACM or the Augmented Reality Survival Manual.
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Post by: TheBATMAN on Apr 01, 2024, 11:41:26 AM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Apr 01, 2024, 11:41:26 AM
I saw Mr H pubished a video of 'his theory' of the grapple hook having a tracker...
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Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:42:28 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:42:28 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 01, 2024, 11:41:26 AMI saw Mr H pubished a video of 'his theory' of the grapple hook having a tracker...
BUNK! Bunk, I say!
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:42:35 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:38:42 AMDecanonization only applies to stuff that is TRULY shit, like ACM or the Augmented Reality Survival Manual.That's just like your opinion, tho. We know how we feel about A3 and AR, and that was gonna be overwritten until Covenant was released and killed all those possibilities.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:43:34 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:43:34 AM
So regardless, it could go any whichever way they want. And who knows what if when Romulus is released.
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Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 11:45:45 AM
Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 11:45:45 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:20:53 AMMr H has plagiarized before, so not sure how reliable it is.It's been confirmed by Hicks and Mike, Mike has even mentioned seeing it when he saw the film. I don't know what more you want.
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Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:47:04 AM
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:47:04 AM
I believe you. I shouldn't have been surprised really.
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Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:47:57 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:42:35 AMThat's just like your opinion, tho. We know how we feel about A3 and AR, and that was gonna be overwritten until Covenant was released and killed all those possibilities.
I haven't seen many people praising ACM or the Augmented Canon Misinformation Manual, so clearly my opinion is widely shared.
Furthermore, A5 being canned to avoid overwriting A3 and AR just shows that Alien films cannot be overwritten.
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Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:49:41 AM
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:49:41 AM
It wasn't canned to prevent that though, it was allow Ridley make his films.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:51:31 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:51:31 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:47:57 AMTrying to make sense of what you just wrote, because Alien 5 was a big deal from what I remember. And I still lament it. And I thought it was canned simply because it was in favor for Covenant and Ridley's direction, not because it was to avoid overwriting A3 and AR.Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:42:35 AMThat's just like your opinion, tho. We know how we feel about A3 and AR, and that was gonna be overwritten until Covenant was released and killed all those possibilities.
I haven't seen many people praising ACM or the Augmented Canon Misinformation Manual, so clearly my opinion is widely shared.
Furthermore, A5 being canned to avoid overwriting A3 and AR just shows that Alien films cannot be overwritten.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:51:52 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 11:51:52 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:49:41 AMIt wasn't canned to prevent that though, it was allow Ridley make his films.Yea, exactly.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2024, 12:15:04 PM
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2024, 12:15:04 PM
It also got shitcanned because it is shit.
Hopefully @Mike's Monsters can reveal more, especially with Aliens Expanded touching on the subject.
Hopefully @Mike's Monsters can reveal more, especially with Aliens Expanded touching on the subject.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 12:17:58 PM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 12:17:58 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2024, 12:15:04 PMIt also got shitcanned because it is shit.What's the expanded thing?
Hopefully @Mike's Monsters can reveal more, especially with Aliens Expanded touching on the subject.
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Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 12:28:07 PM
Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 12:28:07 PM
Just so we're clear, it was canned because it was interfering with what Ridley wanted and it was (maybe) canned because it was bad, but it wasn't canned to preserve A3 and AR (otherwise why greenlight it in the first place.)
Nothing is sacred.
Nothing is sacred.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 12:40:44 PM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 12:28:07 PMJust so we're clear, it was canned because it was interfering with what Ridley wanted and it was (maybe) canned because it was bad, but it wasn't canned to preserve A3 and AR (otherwise why greenlight it in the first place.)Yea, pretty much my point.
Nothing is sacred.
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Post by: Kradan on Apr 01, 2024, 01:48:22 PM
Post by: Kradan on Apr 01, 2024, 01:48:22 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 11:32:06 AMQuote from: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 11:20:53 AMUntil it is officially decanonized
Which ain't ever gonna happen.
Halloween franchise said "Hi" !
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 01, 2024, 01:50:36 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 01, 2024, 01:50:36 PM
Well that would be a glorious day shall it arrived.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2024, 05:09:42 PM
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2024, 05:09:42 PM
Gloriously shit, all Halloween does being reboot itself doing the same story again and again forever, for all the faults of Alien you can say all the films still count.
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 01, 2024, 05:30:17 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 01, 2024, 05:30:17 PM
I was thinking of the prequels only.
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Post by: razeak on Apr 01, 2024, 06:21:29 PM
Post by: razeak on Apr 01, 2024, 06:21:29 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 01, 2024, 11:41:26 AMI saw Mr H pubished a video of 'his theory' of the grapple hook having a tracker...Yeah. I don't have a care for or against the guy, but that was awful suspect lol.
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 01, 2024, 06:35:21 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 01, 2024, 06:35:21 PM
I think they won't go for that in the movie. They better not.
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Post by: Kradan on Apr 01, 2024, 08:24:00 PM
Post by: Kradan on Apr 01, 2024, 08:24:00 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2024, 05:09:42 PMGloriously shit, all Halloween does being reboot itself doing the same story again and again forever, for all the faults of Alien you can say all the films still count.
All I'm saying is that Halloween franchise set the precident for filmmakers disregarding certain entries if they feeling like it
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Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 08:28:48 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Apr 01, 2024, 08:28:48 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 01, 2024, 06:35:21 PMI think they won't go for that in the movie. They better not.
It's not stated anywhere that the SpaceSub ASSO-400 harpoon gun features a tracker function, so I doubt that they will.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2024, 08:52:14 PM
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2024, 08:52:14 PM
I think they will.
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 01, 2024, 08:55:14 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 01, 2024, 08:55:14 PM
That would be shit.
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 01, 2024, 09:12:15 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 01, 2024, 09:12:15 PM
It's the easiest handwave answer so it's all but guaranteed.
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Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 09:17:46 PM
Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 09:17:46 PM
The easiest answer is no answer.
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 01, 2024, 09:21:27 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 01, 2024, 09:21:27 PM
I dunno. It just feels like there'll be some kind of bs explanation beyond "we found it floating in deep space", if only due to modern YT discourse and getting ahead of it. Everything's f**king meta-gaming now.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 09:44:17 PM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 01, 2024, 09:44:17 PM
Best to not answer. Better to not do it.
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Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 09:45:31 PM
Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 09:45:31 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 01, 2024, 09:21:27 PMif only due to modern YT discourse and getting ahead of it. Everything's f**king meta-gaming now.Maybe these guys could have a spine and not need to givee knowing smiles to the audience every five minutes.
A man can dream.
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 01, 2024, 09:49:01 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 01, 2024, 09:49:01 PM
It'd be nice, sure.
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Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 01, 2024, 10:01:19 PM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 01, 2024, 10:01:19 PM
I don't mind the OG Alien being found. If they had tracking information for the Nostromo, and could find that the shuttle was used, they could actually make it interesting for a little bit by explaining how they used math/science/tech techniques to find the critter.
We think that the shuttle blast would've sent the alien shooting away at thousands of miles per hour and that we would never be able to find them. By today's earthlocked standards yes. But in Alien, ships move FTL, so that distance would be nothing to explore and you have android (supposedly have 300 iqs) and advanced computer systems to help triangulate directions and all that garbage.
That is the least unbelievable thing to me UNLESS they try to handwave it. Some joes were just cruising around and pigeon to windshielded Big Chap. That would be garbage.
Having the shuttle data and NOT going back for the Jockey Ship is the major bugaboo. I suppose a minor one would be if Big Chap is still this films antagonist, because he did take a facefull of shuttle afterburner to the grill. Even if lack of convection means heat wouldn't transfer to his body the same way it would on earth, it's still hot, and he was still right in it.
So I suspect they WILL handwave it.
I dunno. We'll see I guess.
This is where you need gamegossips X1M to come in here and give all the scientific mathmatical equations to show that finding the Alien wouldn't be the problem if they had a starting point to go off of.
We think that the shuttle blast would've sent the alien shooting away at thousands of miles per hour and that we would never be able to find them. By today's earthlocked standards yes. But in Alien, ships move FTL, so that distance would be nothing to explore and you have android (supposedly have 300 iqs) and advanced computer systems to help triangulate directions and all that garbage.
That is the least unbelievable thing to me UNLESS they try to handwave it. Some joes were just cruising around and pigeon to windshielded Big Chap. That would be garbage.
Having the shuttle data and NOT going back for the Jockey Ship is the major bugaboo. I suppose a minor one would be if Big Chap is still this films antagonist, because he did take a facefull of shuttle afterburner to the grill. Even if lack of convection means heat wouldn't transfer to his body the same way it would on earth, it's still hot, and he was still right in it.
So I suspect they WILL handwave it.
I dunno. We'll see I guess.
This is where you need gamegossips X1M to come in here and give all the scientific mathmatical equations to show that finding the Alien wouldn't be the problem if they had a starting point to go off of.
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Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 10:10:40 PM
Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 10:10:40 PM
They'd need to know exactly what direction the thing was flying off at. If they were off by even a few millimetres, at the speed the thing is travelling that would be a variance of millions of kilometres by the time anyone tried looking for it.
Surviving I'll buy, finding, no.
Surviving I'll buy, finding, no.
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Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 10:30:35 PM
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 10:30:35 PM
And given how small it would be compared to a ship, its blackness meshing with space, its doubtful it could be spotted both visually or on radar.
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Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 01, 2024, 10:33:26 PM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 01, 2024, 10:33:26 PM
They would know where the thing was going if they had access to ship/shuttle information. If not, then yes it would be garbage.
Just like the Prometheus rock painting navigation bs.
As for radar, being a newly appointed radar person myself in my new Army job, we currently have radar that can detect something as small as birds. So in a 100 years in the future, that won't be an issue unless tech just stops developing, but it won't, because that radar is already being replaced with a newer one.
Just like the Prometheus rock painting navigation bs.
As for radar, being a newly appointed radar person myself in my new Army job, we currently have radar that can detect something as small as birds. So in a 100 years in the future, that won't be an issue unless tech just stops developing, but it won't, because that radar is already being replaced with a newer one.
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Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 10:38:06 PM
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 01, 2024, 10:38:06 PM
How would they know which the direction the Alien went? the engines blowing it back could have knocked it in any directions.
Birds would be actively moving in a living environment, so I can understand radar picking them up. The Alien however would be a dead floating object in a vacuum.
Birds would be actively moving in a living environment, so I can understand radar picking them up. The Alien however would be a dead floating object in a vacuum.
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Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 10:41:39 PM
Post by: SiL on Apr 01, 2024, 10:41:39 PM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 01, 2024, 10:33:26 PMThey would know where the thing was going if they had access to ship/shuttle information. If not, then yes it would be garbage.The thing tumbles out of the engine. They need to know its precise trajectory, not the trajectory of the ship. It's flying faster than the speed of light to boot, so not sure how radar would even work.
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Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 12:31:44 AM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 12:31:44 AM
I doubt the shuttle is even remotely flying close to the speed of light at that point, if it were the Nostromo explosion wouldn't have even shown in her cockpit, she would've been so far out of range. 186,000 miles per second. She was going nowhere near that fast.
X1M would've already figured out how fast the shuttle was going just by that scene alone. Also, it looked like it is flung straight back from the Nostromo exhaust. The angle of the shot makes it look different.
As for radar, it picks up and bounces back solid objects. It has nothing to do with whether things are living or dead. It isn't scanning for live pilots in aircraft but the whole shebang. Other software spot checks the IFF on the plane to see if its friendly or not. If your radar isn't far enough away from trees, it'll f**k up how your readings are displayed by not allowing proper air coverage..........which is an indicator of something being in the way. Which should set off alarm bells to anything in that deep of a void in space. Even if your radar DIDN'T register it as a ship, it would register it as something. Since space is mostly an empty void, any solid object where it is not supposed to be would probably register with ship AIs like MUTHER. We've had the sentinel radar pick up cars that were driving on elevated roads. Humans wouldn't be doing the ground work here. Even if they could calculate it, an AI could do it faster.
We are getting too far into the weeds with this. It makes no sense for them to just bring back the Alien and not go after the Jockey tech, and other more accessible Aliens if they had the Nostromo's black box flight coordinates and evidence for the shuttle and its flight path. So it is most likely going to be a no explanation given other than we found it in space to avoid all the hows.
X1M would've already figured out how fast the shuttle was going just by that scene alone. Also, it looked like it is flung straight back from the Nostromo exhaust. The angle of the shot makes it look different.
As for radar, it picks up and bounces back solid objects. It has nothing to do with whether things are living or dead. It isn't scanning for live pilots in aircraft but the whole shebang. Other software spot checks the IFF on the plane to see if its friendly or not. If your radar isn't far enough away from trees, it'll f**k up how your readings are displayed by not allowing proper air coverage..........which is an indicator of something being in the way. Which should set off alarm bells to anything in that deep of a void in space. Even if your radar DIDN'T register it as a ship, it would register it as something. Since space is mostly an empty void, any solid object where it is not supposed to be would probably register with ship AIs like MUTHER. We've had the sentinel radar pick up cars that were driving on elevated roads. Humans wouldn't be doing the ground work here. Even if they could calculate it, an AI could do it faster.
We are getting too far into the weeds with this. It makes no sense for them to just bring back the Alien and not go after the Jockey tech, and other more accessible Aliens if they had the Nostromo's black box flight coordinates and evidence for the shuttle and its flight path. So it is most likely going to be a no explanation given other than we found it in space to avoid all the hows.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 12:48:39 AM
Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 12:48:39 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 12:31:44 AMI doubt the shuttle is even remotely flying close to the speed of light at that point, if it were the Nostromo explosion wouldn't have even shown in her cockpit, she would've been so far out of range. 186,000 miles per second. She was going nowhere near that fast.The Nostromo is flying faster than light when the shuttle departs. If the shuttle slowed down below the speed of light, the Nostromo would've instantly vanished and we never would've seen the explosion. Instead we see it recede into the distance, and then it explodes.
Not to mention Ripley and everything else in the shuttle probably would've been turned into mush by decelerating that quickly.
QuoteAs for radar, it picks up and bounces back solid objects.Yes, but it travels at the speed of light. Ripley, Big Chap, the shuttle, the Nostromo are all faster than light at this point.
QuoteWe are getting too far into the weeds with this. It makes no senseExactly.
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Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 02, 2024, 12:51:46 AM
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 02, 2024, 12:51:46 AM
Traveling FTL also makes no sense.
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Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 12:55:11 AM
Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 12:55:11 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 02, 2024, 12:51:46 AMTraveling FTL also makes no sense.It's kind of endemic to the genre though.
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Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 12:58:27 AM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 12:58:27 AM
For whatever reason, I thought when the crew was awake in all of the movies they weren't going FTL. If they were then it is a much harder problem to solve.
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Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 01:14:39 AM
Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 01:14:39 AM
It's layers of dumb.
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Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 02, 2024, 01:18:54 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 02, 2024, 01:18:54 AM
SiL is starting to sound black-pilled about the whole damn thing.
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Post by: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 02:06:27 AM
Post by: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 02:06:27 AM
What if the start of the movie is just the cast going along in space singing David Bowies space oddity and the Alien just hits the wind shield?
I'm pretty much coming up with all the answers here.
I'm pretty much coming up with all the answers here.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:18:52 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:18:52 AM
I think regardless of how they found it.. the movie takes place twenty years after the first film.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:24:32 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:24:32 AM
It would be going at this constant speed with nothing to slow it down. Eventually, it would've been pulled toward some celestial object. It would be far, far from the Narcissus's trajectory.
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Post by: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:03:36 AM
Post by: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:03:36 AM
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:18:52 AMI think regardless of how they found it.. the movie takes place twenty years after the first film.
I just had flash backs of Sebastian telling us the whole plot of AVP from three inscriptions on a random wall.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 07:07:35 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 07:07:35 AM
Quote from: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:03:36 AMSebastian... Sebastian.. refresh my memory.Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:18:52 AMI think regardless of how they found it.. the movie takes place twenty years after the first film.
I just had flash backs of Sebastian telling us the whole plot of AVP from three inscriptions on a random wall.
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Post by: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:15:12 AM
Post by: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:15:12 AM
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 07:07:35 AMQuote from: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:03:36 AMSebastian... Sebastian.. refresh my memory.Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:18:52 AMI think regardless of how they found it.. the movie takes place twenty years after the first film.
I just had flash backs of Sebastian telling us the whole plot of AVP from three inscriptions on a random wall.
Spanish man, translates the whole AVP plot for us without looking down the camera , dies stuck to a wall from Lex ( with tears).
*Emotional moment
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 07:17:14 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 07:17:14 AM
Quote from: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:15:12 AMOhhhhh yea! Sorry, haven't watched it since.... EverQuote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 07:07:35 AMQuote from: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:03:36 AMSebastian... Sebastian.. refresh my memory.Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:18:52 AMI think regardless of how they found it.. the movie takes place twenty years after the first film.
I just had flash backs of Sebastian telling us the whole plot of AVP from three inscriptions on a random wall.
Spanish man, translates the whole AVP plot for us without looking down the camera , dies stuck to a wall from Lex ( with tears).
*Emotional moment
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Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 07:22:45 AM
Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 07:22:45 AM
Quote from: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:15:12 AMSpanish man, translates the whole AVP plot for us without looking down the camera , dies stuck to a wall from Lex ( with tears).Italian, FFS.
*Emotional moment
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Post by: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:26:53 AM
Post by: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:26:53 AM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 07:22:45 AMQuote from: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 07:15:12 AMSpanish man, translates the whole AVP plot for us without looking down the camera , dies stuck to a wall from Lex ( with tears).Italian, FFS.
*Emotional moment
8) Ahhh same though eh, people call me Irish and I'm Scottish I let it fly :laugh:
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Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 07:30:00 AM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 07:30:00 AM
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:24:32 AMIt would be going at this constant speed with nothing to slow it down. Eventually, it would've been pulled toward some celestial object. It would be far, far from the Narcissus's trajectory.
If it was going the FTL then yes this is a possibility. If it wasn't the speed of light then it wouldn't be pulled toward anything for what would be an eternity. It takes our fastest ship now 77,000 years to reach the next closest star.
Until somebody in universe says that the ships are going FTL or faster (they aren't zipping around Acheron in Alien or Aliens it only takes light 3 minutes to go from the sun to earth so if they were always in FTL speed then they would constantly be zipping past the planets) when the crew is awake, then I don't believe it, and everything could be formulated to find the Alien. Yalls non american math just sucks because you use the metric system. If you used standard like we do, it would make sense how you could program machines capable of going FTL to reverse track the Nostromo and its shuttles flight plan and investigate anything outside the norm.
;)
This is all moot anyways, because the movie won't give us anything like that, and we know that the shuttle wasn't recovered till Aliens so there is no way they can have that half of the puzzle in any way that would make sense.
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Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 07:40:19 AM
Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 07:40:19 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 07:30:00 AMUntil somebody in universe says that the ships are going FTL or faster (they aren't zipping around Acheron in Alien or Aliens it only takes light 3 minutes to go from the sun to earth so if they were always in FTL speed then they would constantly be zipping past the planets) when the crew is awake, then I don't believe it, and everything could be formulated to find the Alien.The ships aren't going FTL around planets. Lambert says it's going to take 10 months to get home meaning they're faster than light by that point. They were meant to show this in the exterior shots of the Nostromo but I don't think had the budget.
Resurrection is the most explicit, as the return trip from Pluto to Earth is faster than light and they're all awake.
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Post by: Acid_Reign161 on Apr 02, 2024, 07:54:17 AM
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on Apr 02, 2024, 07:54:17 AM
Both Prometheus and Covenant demonstrate FTL; we see how fast the ships are moving across the Starfield, seen as what looks almost like a shooting star across the screen, and then when we get to the exterior shots of of this it appears (to us) like it is moving slow.
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Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 08:02:42 AM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 08:02:42 AM
That quote by lambert is ambiguous. It could just as easily mean that its going to take ten months to get home when we hit the freezers.
I could also argue that there are tech differences between Alien, and Alien Resurrection, not because Ares shouldn't exist, but because it so far north of the timeline when it takes place. What was it, 200 years past Aliens?
That was a nice try though. I respect it.
On a side note, I also think that there would have to be some kind of safeguard when the ships were in a planetary system to prevent massive spaceships from FTL jumping into colonized worlds. By accident or by terrorism. It would be the quickest way to end a planet, just target a civilization you didn't like and send FTL ships at them with no intention of ever slowing down. That has nothing to do with anything, just something I've thought about before.
The only person walking around in either of the FTL scenes was David/Walter though from what I remember about the dumpster fire and Covenant.
I could also argue that there are tech differences between Alien, and Alien Resurrection, not because Ares shouldn't exist, but because it so far north of the timeline when it takes place. What was it, 200 years past Aliens?
That was a nice try though. I respect it.
On a side note, I also think that there would have to be some kind of safeguard when the ships were in a planetary system to prevent massive spaceships from FTL jumping into colonized worlds. By accident or by terrorism. It would be the quickest way to end a planet, just target a civilization you didn't like and send FTL ships at them with no intention of ever slowing down. That has nothing to do with anything, just something I've thought about before.
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Apr 02, 2024, 07:54:17 AMBoth Prometheus and Covenant demonstrate FTL; we see how fast the ships are moving across the Starfield, seen as what looks almost like a shooting star across the screen, and then when we get to the exterior shots of of this it appears (to us) like it is moving slow.
The only person walking around in either of the FTL scenes was David/Walter though from what I remember about the dumpster fire and Covenant.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 08:04:20 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 08:04:20 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 07:30:00 AMQuote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:24:32 AMIt would be going at this constant speed with nothing to slow it down. Eventually, it would've been pulled toward some celestial object. It would be far, far from the Narcissus's trajectory.
If it was going the FTL then yes this is a possibility. If it wasn't the speed of light then it wouldn't be pulled toward anything for what would be an eternity. It takes our fastest ship now 77,000 years to reach the next closest star.
Either way, twenty years after the fact. Now I'm just making myself upset because the set up is so dumb.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 08:05:14 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 08:05:14 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 08:02:42 AMThat quote by lambert is ambiguous. It could just as easily mean that its going to take ten months to get home when we hit the freezers.
What?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 08:10:31 AM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 08:10:31 AM
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 08:04:20 AMQuote from: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 07:30:00 AMQuote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:24:32 AMIt would be going at this constant speed with nothing to slow it down. Eventually, it would've been pulled toward some celestial object. It would be far, far from the Narcissus's trajectory.
If it was going the FTL then yes this is a possibility. If it wasn't the speed of light then it wouldn't be pulled toward anything for what would be an eternity. It takes our fastest ship now 77,000 years to reach the next closest star.
Either way, twenty years after the fact. Now I'm just making myself upset because the set up is so dumb.
One way is a whole lot easier to calculate though.
It's going to be silly though because we know that they don't have either source of information to go by. If they had the Nostromo black box they would've just went to LV426. They don't have the shuttle because we see it in Aliens. It's literally going to be a bug on window moment more than likely, or as Sil said they just don't bother to explain it which is probably the better deal.
Maybe the fans of the original put too much into it and SAID it was big chap, and it really is just another ejected Alien somewhere, which might be the best save they could come up with. We know that David is out there with a ship full of victims, maybe some got loose and fought back and don't have aliens traveling at potential light speed.
Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 08:05:14 AMQuote from: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 08:02:42 AMThat quote by lambert is ambiguous. It could just as easily mean that its going to take ten months to get home when we hit the freezers.
What?
Sil posted before you.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 08:12:57 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 08:12:57 AM
I think the Alien would just fly apart at that point.
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Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 08:18:37 AM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 08:18:37 AM
Well since moving even a grain of sand at the speed of light means that it would have the equivalent mass of all the universe, everything going FTL would be flying apart.
The Alien probably won't actually hit the window, it'll more than likely be a proximity warning or some shit and hapless crew number one brings it on board.
The Alien probably won't actually hit the window, it'll more than likely be a proximity warning or some shit and hapless crew number one brings it on board.
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Post by: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 08:31:17 AM
Post by: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 08:31:17 AM
Doesn't Lambert also say we are only "half way" that means they took 10 months to get to LV426 from wherever they came from.
Maybe I'm mis remembering that though.
Maybe I'm mis remembering that though.
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Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 08:35:35 AM
Post by: SiL on Apr 02, 2024, 08:35:35 AM
Quote from: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 08:31:17 AMDoesn't Lambert also say we are only "half way" that means they took 10 months to get to LV426 from wherever they came from.They're off their route.
Maybe I'm mis remembering that though.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 08:02:42 AMThat quote by lambert is ambiguous. It could just as easily mean that its going to take ten months to get home when we hit the freezers.The script isn't ambiguous though.
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 02, 2024, 08:38:31 AM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 02, 2024, 08:38:31 AM
Quote from: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 08:31:17 AMDoesn't Lambert also say we are only "half way" that means they took 10 months to get to LV426 from wherever they came from.
Maybe I'm mis remembering that though.
Dallas says so, after he consulted Mother.
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Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 08:42:28 AM
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 08:42:28 AM
Yea, I never picked up any ambiguity from those scenes, so it's kinda weird to say that they are.
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Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 02, 2024, 08:45:01 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on Apr 02, 2024, 08:45:01 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 02, 2024, 08:38:31 AMQuote from: Highland on Apr 02, 2024, 08:31:17 AMDoesn't Lambert also say we are only "half way" that means they took 10 months to get to LV426 from wherever they came from.
Maybe I'm mis remembering that though.
Dallas says so, after he consulted Mother.
Lambert's display also shows it. You can see their course represented by a slightly curved line from their point of departure to their current location, with the rest of their course represented by the dotted line to their destination--which you can see is actually labeled "SOL" if you look closely enough. Even the number at the top could indicate, in light-years, the total distance that their plotted course will take them. Half of 74.4 is 37.2, which is pretty close to the distance between Sol and Z2R.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on Apr 02, 2024, 09:00:54 AM
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on Apr 02, 2024, 09:00:54 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 08:02:42 AMThe only person walking around in either of the FTL scenes was David/Walter though from what I remember about the dumpster fire and Covenant.
We see the crew walking around on the Nostromo whilst it's in FTL. The Covenent crew who aren't keen to get back into cryo are awake for 2 weeks whilst at FTL, opting to investigate the planet that Shaw's signal originated from rather than continue to their original destination. And in Alien Resurrection, Wren explains that she ship has stealthruns, and that there was no way you could tell it was moving (whilst granted, the latter is 200 years in the future, it supports what we have seen in each movie).
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 01:26:50 PM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 01:26:50 PM
I'd have to watch Covenant again to verify.
Script is out of universe. Using scripts is like taking Scott's word at every interview concerning the franchise he's ever done when he's the biggest waffler on the planet and literally will change his takes on stuff from one interview to the next. If it isn't on screen, it doesn't count.
Do not restart the great JA Eyers/Kimarhi Ronso vs Maledoro/Deezleboy war.
QuoteThe script isn't ambiguous though.
Script is out of universe. Using scripts is like taking Scott's word at every interview concerning the franchise he's ever done when he's the biggest waffler on the planet and literally will change his takes on stuff from one interview to the next. If it isn't on screen, it doesn't count.
Do not restart the great JA Eyers/Kimarhi Ronso vs Maledoro/Deezleboy war.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 02, 2024, 01:29:05 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 02, 2024, 01:29:05 PM
The script holds way more relevance for what happens in the movie than what it's director says afterwards.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 01:49:29 PM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 01:49:29 PM
Perhaps. But it can still be negated by what you see or didn't see in the movies. When we had this war with maledoro way back in the day we had our guns loaded for bear with dozens of contradictory things the scripts used vs what was and wasn't seen on screen.
This was like a 100 page debate, so I'm not going to go into the wayback machine and find them all but they exist. There is contradictory stuff between the scripts and movies themselves, between the scripts and their sequel scripts, etc.
One thing I can remember is something as simple as the jockey ship signal. In the alien movie script Dallas (I think) turns off the signal. In Aliens earthquakes destroy the signal. So which is it? Which out of universe explanation do you use? The oldest, the more recent. Do you use the alien explanation watching Alien and the Aliens one watching Aliens?
The simplest explanation is to go what is shown on screen instead of all that background bs that changes between directors word of mouth, what we see in newer movies etc.
This was like a 100 page debate, so I'm not going to go into the wayback machine and find them all but they exist. There is contradictory stuff between the scripts and movies themselves, between the scripts and their sequel scripts, etc.
One thing I can remember is something as simple as the jockey ship signal. In the alien movie script Dallas (I think) turns off the signal. In Aliens earthquakes destroy the signal. So which is it? Which out of universe explanation do you use? The oldest, the more recent. Do you use the alien explanation watching Alien and the Aliens one watching Aliens?
The simplest explanation is to go what is shown on screen instead of all that background bs that changes between directors word of mouth, what we see in newer movies etc.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kane's other son on Apr 02, 2024, 02:02:18 PM
Post by: Kane's other son on Apr 02, 2024, 02:02:18 PM
It's all make-believe. The only thing that matters is coming up with good drama and a narratively satisfying explanation that doesn't punch plot holes all over the other films (e.g. why the Narcissus was never retrieved or why W-Y didn't go back to LV-426 right after the first movie).
Just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Just sit back and enjoy the ride.
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Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 02:21:25 PM
Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 02:21:25 PM
Don't try to be the voice of reason in our fictional universe.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 02, 2024, 02:48:00 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 02, 2024, 02:48:00 PM
Quote from: Kane's other son on Apr 02, 2024, 02:02:18 PMThe only thing that matters is coming up with good drama
I'll settle at that.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: dnicholson277 on May 18, 2024, 06:39:08 AM
Post by: dnicholson277 on May 18, 2024, 06:39:08 AM
Watched Alien Covenant again last night...
So David created a bunch of Alien eggs two of the face huggers managed to perform their functions but there were more shown in that scene.
What if the "big chap" on the stretcher is actually the remains of the first Alien killed as they try and get back to the Covenant? Feels more plausible that they worked found that site and got specimens than the random floating alien in space idea.
So David created a bunch of Alien eggs two of the face huggers managed to perform their functions but there were more shown in that scene.
What if the "big chap" on the stretcher is actually the remains of the first Alien killed as they try and get back to the Covenant? Feels more plausible that they worked found that site and got specimens than the random floating alien in space idea.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 18, 2024, 07:28:33 AM
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 18, 2024, 07:28:33 AM
Pretty sure it's just the one from Alien, breh.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 18, 2024, 08:24:58 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 18, 2024, 08:24:58 AM
Quote from: dnicholson277 on May 18, 2024, 06:39:08 AMWatched Alien Covenant again last night...
So David created a bunch of Alien eggs two of the face huggers managed to perform their functions but there were more shown in that scene.
What if the "big chap" on the stretcher is actually the remains of the first Alien killed as they try and get back to the Covenant? Feels more plausible that they worked found that site and got specimens than the random floating alien in space idea.
I wish.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 18, 2024, 11:33:49 PM
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 18, 2024, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: dnicholson277 on May 18, 2024, 06:39:08 AMWatched Alien Covenant again last night...
So David created a bunch of Alien eggs two of the face huggers managed to perform their functions but there were more shown in that scene.
What if the "big chap" on the stretcher is actually the remains of the first Alien killed as they try and get back to the Covenant? Feels more plausible that they worked found that site and got specimens than the random floating alien in space idea.
You're going to have to accept that the premise of this movie is silly and dumb at best. It's gonna require a very turned-off brain or mental gymnastics to enjoy.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: St_Eddie on May 19, 2024, 12:13:42 AM
Post by: St_Eddie on May 19, 2024, 12:13:42 AM
Quote from: Feeds On Minds on May 18, 2024, 11:33:49 PMQuote from: dnicholson277 on May 18, 2024, 06:39:08 AMWatched Alien Covenant again last night...
So David created a bunch of Alien eggs two of the face huggers managed to perform their functions but there were more shown in that scene.
What if the "big chap" on the stretcher is actually the remains of the first Alien killed as they try and get back to the Covenant? Feels more plausible that they worked found that site and got specimens than the random floating alien in space idea.
You're going to have to accept that the premise of this movie is silly and dumb at best. It's gonna require a very turned-off brain or mental gymnastics to enjoy.
Yeah, but 'member Big Chap? Oooohhh, I 'member Big Chap! 'Member Hicks showing Ripley how to use a pulse rifle? Oooohhh yeah, I 'member that!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 19, 2024, 12:18:16 AM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 19, 2024, 12:18:16 AM
You really need to bring back your angry Bill-from-True-Blood avatar. Your posts just aren't the same without it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: St_Eddie on May 20, 2024, 12:46:54 AM
Post by: St_Eddie on May 20, 2024, 12:46:54 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 19, 2024, 12:18:16 AMYou really need to bring back your angry Bill-from-True-Blood avatar. Your posts just aren't the same without it.
That was literally a photo of my own face XD I've never seen True Blood.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Sabres21768 on May 20, 2024, 12:59:49 AM
Post by: Sabres21768 on May 20, 2024, 12:59:49 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 02, 2024, 07:30:00 AM8 minutes actually.Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Apr 02, 2024, 06:24:32 AMIt would be going at this constant speed with nothing to slow it down. Eventually, it would've been pulled toward some celestial object. It would be far, far from the Narcissus's trajectory.
If it was going the FTL then yes this is a possibility. If it wasn't the speed of light then it wouldn't be pulled toward anything for what would be an eternity. It takes our fastest ship now 77,000 years to reach the next closest star.
Until somebody in universe says that the ships are going FTL or faster (they aren't zipping around Acheron in Alien or Aliens it only takes light 3 minutes to go from the sun to earth...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: YutaniDitch on May 23, 2024, 10:47:49 AM
Post by: YutaniDitch on May 23, 2024, 10:47:49 AM
I have not been here for a long while, since Prometheus and that clusterfrack of a sequel, Alien Covenant.
I don't understand the raison d'être of this Romulus movie, but I am curious enough to see how Disney/20th Century Studios are gonna wreck this one! The unknown cast is already a dead giveaway of the lack of confidence the studios have on the movie, and hopefully Alvarez will be better than Ridley at ACTUALLY making us care about the predictable demise of the characters and not actually make us WANT them to be killed, like that incredibly incompetent and truly expendable Covenant crew!
I am not getting good vibes from the use of black goo to EXACTLY replicate the Xenos that were "created" by David, when we know that the xenos were the result of specific trials and errors that surely David did not leave documented for anyone to see, though THAT could be the only REALISTIC way for them to being able to replicate the xenos, though the existence of this movie creates YET ANOTHER problem for the ORIGINAL Alien franchise, specifically ALIEN and ALIENS!
More than just the gore and winks at the franchise, I will be paying close attention to it's connection to the original two movies, especially how they came across the black goo, how they managed to replicate the Xenos with it, and how the events in this movie did not transpire to Weyland-Yutani being aware of the existence of the Xenos between ALIEN and ALIENS! We all know that even though WY was aware of the Xeno in ALIEN, the colonists were only sent to the Derelict by Burke AFTER Ripley told them what had happened at the Nostromo!
So, THAT is going to be interesting... If any of these questions are left unanswered, I doubt I will like the movie! I mean, "inquels"(sequels within sequels) are an unnecessary addition to the already myriad of plotholes and incongruencies that the latter movies have created against the original trilogy!
I don't understand the raison d'être of this Romulus movie, but I am curious enough to see how Disney/20th Century Studios are gonna wreck this one! The unknown cast is already a dead giveaway of the lack of confidence the studios have on the movie, and hopefully Alvarez will be better than Ridley at ACTUALLY making us care about the predictable demise of the characters and not actually make us WANT them to be killed, like that incredibly incompetent and truly expendable Covenant crew!
I am not getting good vibes from the use of black goo to EXACTLY replicate the Xenos that were "created" by David, when we know that the xenos were the result of specific trials and errors that surely David did not leave documented for anyone to see, though THAT could be the only REALISTIC way for them to being able to replicate the xenos, though the existence of this movie creates YET ANOTHER problem for the ORIGINAL Alien franchise, specifically ALIEN and ALIENS!
More than just the gore and winks at the franchise, I will be paying close attention to it's connection to the original two movies, especially how they came across the black goo, how they managed to replicate the Xenos with it, and how the events in this movie did not transpire to Weyland-Yutani being aware of the existence of the Xenos between ALIEN and ALIENS! We all know that even though WY was aware of the Xeno in ALIEN, the colonists were only sent to the Derelict by Burke AFTER Ripley told them what had happened at the Nostromo!
So, THAT is going to be interesting... If any of these questions are left unanswered, I doubt I will like the movie! I mean, "inquels"(sequels within sequels) are an unnecessary addition to the already myriad of plotholes and incongruencies that the latter movies have created against the original trilogy!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Prez on May 23, 2024, 10:55:21 AM
Post by: Prez on May 23, 2024, 10:55:21 AM
Quote from: St_Eddie on May 20, 2024, 12:46:54 AMQuote from: Local Trouble on May 19, 2024, 12:18:16 AMYou really need to bring back your angry Bill-from-True-Blood avatar. Your posts just aren't the same without it.
That was literally a photo of my own face XD I've never seen True Blood.
:laugh:
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 24, 2024, 10:00:48 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 24, 2024, 10:00:48 AM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on May 23, 2024, 10:47:49 AMMore than just the gore and winks at the franchise, I will be paying close attention to it's connection to the original two movies, especially how they came across the black goo, how they managed to replicate the Xenos with it, and how the events in this movie did not transpire to Weyland-Yutani being aware of the existence of the Xenos between ALIEN and ALIENS! We all know that even though WY was aware of the Xeno in ALIEN, the colonists were only sent to the Derelict by Burke AFTER Ripley told them what had happened at the Nostromo!
If you already know about the black goo, then
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the same leaks that revealed the black goo in the film, also said it was reverse engineered via Big Chap so that's how they'll look so similar. It's a strain related to Big Chap, not to David's Praetomorphs.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 24, 2024, 10:31:14 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 24, 2024, 10:31:14 AM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on May 23, 2024, 10:47:49 AMThe unknown cast is already a dead giveaway of the lack of confidence the studios have on the movie
Sigourney Weaver was pretty much an unknown in 1979, and we all know how that turned out.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 11:09:40 AM
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 11:09:40 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 24, 2024, 10:00:48 AMIf you already know about the black goo, thenSpoiler
the same leaks that revealed the black goo in the film, also said it was reverse engineered via Big Chap so that's how they'll look so similar. It's a strain related to Big Chap, not to David's Praetomorphs.[close]
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Honestly, I really, *really* hope this is the case, as this would somewhat validate a personal fan theory I shared in the Covenant threads about the black goo being derived from the Xenomorph (in this way the alien is still ancient, the TV show can tie in without going the pathogen route (as it has said to be mostly ignoring) and everything from Covenant, such as David being responsible for creation of the praetomorph will always be valid... it's the best all around scenario we could hope for. I like to think the praetomorph is David purifying the pathogen to its raw form, and "almost getting it".
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 11:16:07 AM
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 11:16:07 AM
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Except the idea is clearly the opposite in the spoilers: goo is taken from the Aliens because the Aliens are made from the goo. Aliens are used to reverse engineer goo, not goo is used to reverse engineer Aliens.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 11:39:13 AM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 11:39:13 AM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on May 23, 2024, 10:47:49 AMMore than just the gore and winks at the franchise, I will be paying close attention to it's connection to the original two movies, especially how they came across the black goo, how they managed to replicate the Xenos with it, and how the events in this movie did not transpire to Weyland-Yutani being aware of the existence of the Xenos between ALIEN and ALIENS! We all know that even though WY was aware of the Xeno in ALIEN, the colonists were only sent to the Derelict by Burke AFTER Ripley told them what had happened at the Nostromo!
For Hadley's Hope to be set up on LV-426 in the first place, WY absolutely knew about the Alien. There's no way it was by chance they chose that specific tiny moon just 20 years after the events of Alien to build a colony.
I think they knew about the Derelict in the first movie, too. Special Order 937 was carried out under the guise of "All transmissions picked up must be investigated or you're penalized with total forfeiture of shares". WY knew the route the Nostromo would take to get back to Earth and they installed Ash on board literally prior to the Nostromo's return from Thedus to see that their plans were carried out.
WY has always lied. And they've always known. Whether it's because of David or something we haven't seen yet? I don't know.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 24, 2024, 11:45:35 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 24, 2024, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 11:39:13 AMWY has always lied. And they've always known. Whether it's because of David or something we haven't seen yet? I don't know.
David's transmissions were responsible for the formation of Deep Void, a cross-corporate/political organization that included members of Weyland-Yutani's upper echelons, so maybe that's how.
EDIT: Also, the Prometheus expedition.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 11:47:50 AM
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 11:47:50 AM
Quote from: SiL on May 24, 2024, 11:16:07 AMSpoiler
Except the idea is clearly the opposite in the spoilers: goo is taken from the Aliens because the Aliens are made from the goo. Aliens are used to reverse engineer goo, not goo is used to reverse engineer Aliens.[close]
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I not entirely sure that's the case... the end goal has always been to acquire a Xenomorph... perhaps goo is extracted from a dead/damaged big chap in order to recreate it (let's not forget, David did indeed transmit all of his data from the Covenant to WeYu, so they would have certainly had his methodology from Planet 4, along with any further developments he made on the Covenant colonists).
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 11:55:38 AM
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 11:55:38 AM
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 11:47:50 AMSpoiler
I not entirely sure that's the case... the end goal has always been to acquire a Xenomorph...[close]
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Nope, in this movie they're trying to get the goo to create pharmaceuticals, according to the leaks.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:03:10 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 11:39:13 AMFor Hadley's Hope to be set up on LV-426 in the first place, WY absolutely knew about the Alien. There's no way it was by chance they chose that specific tiny moon just 20 years after the events of Alien to build a colony.
Who said it was chance? Not every planet is a suitable candidate for terraforming and colonization. LV-426 clearly was, in addition to being mineral-rich.
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Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 12:06:00 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 12:06:00 PM
I am curious to know what the Renaissance Station's main function was before its demise. Was it erected to further WY's own agendas regarding the Alien or was it a generic space station doing generic space station stuff that was then tasked with Alien research
It clearly has science labs capable enough of reverse engineering the Promethean Fire. But then again, David was able to do that with very little on Planet IV. But then again he does have a much more capable Android brain. Who's to say that it took David the full 11 years to create the eggs as well? He mentions they've been "Waiting.. for mother".
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after they found Big Chap?
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It clearly has science labs capable enough of reverse engineering the Promethean Fire. But then again, David was able to do that with very little on Planet IV. But then again he does have a much more capable Android brain. Who's to say that it took David the full 11 years to create the eggs as well? He mentions they've been "Waiting.. for mother".
Quote from: SiL on May 24, 2024, 11:55:38 AMQuote from: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 11:47:50 AMSpoiler
I not entirely sure that's the case... the end goal has always been to acquire a Xenomorph...[close]Spoiler
Nope, in this movie they're trying to get the goo to create pharmaceuticals, according to the leaks.[close]
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So the Alien was created accidentally? Hmmm, maybe another situation of accidental exposure to the goo, but because it was specifically Big Chap's goo, it created the fully realized biomechanical Alien rather than an Alien more akin to the Deacon or Neomorph.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:12:43 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 12:06:00 PMI am curious to know what the Renaissance Station's main function was before its demise. Was it erected to further WY's own agendas regarding the Alien or was it a generic space station doing generic space station stuff that was then tasked with Alien research
It could be like Anchorpoint, but I'm getting more Auriga vibes from it. Because I expect this movie to have all the subtlety and nuance of AR.
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Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 12:14:52 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:03:10 PMQuote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 11:39:13 AMFor Hadley's Hope to be set up on LV-426 in the first place, WY absolutely knew about the Alien. There's no way it was by chance they chose that specific tiny moon just 20 years after the events of Alien to build a colony.
Who said it was chance? Not every planet is a suitable candidate for terraforming and colonization. LV-426 clearly was, in addition to being mineral-rich.
Not necessarily. I get that we're retroactively fitting the prequels into it, but Calpamos has two moons capable of sustaining life. And then you also have Fiorina 161, Origae-6, and Planet IV. That's already a relatively high number of planetoids with life-bearing capabilities, all fitting into a single film franchise. It's maybe not so rare.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:19:23 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:19:23 PM
I didn't say it was rare, but maybe it's not as common as you think. Planets need more than a breathable atmosphere to be habitable.
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Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 12:20:18 PM
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 12:20:18 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 12:06:00 PMNo idea, we'll have to watch fee films.Spoiler
So the Alien was created accidentally?[close]
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 12:14:52 PMAnd then you also have Fiorina 161, Origae-6, and Planet IV. That's already a relatively high number of planetoids with life-bearing capabilities, all fitting into a single film franchise. It's maybe not so rare.By the time of Aliens, over 300 worlds have been surveyed. Two of them are apparently capable of sustaining life without intervention - we don't know about Fiorina. LV-422 and LV-426 can't be lived on by humans without work.
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Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:25:25 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:25:25 PM
I'd guess that Fiorina is naturally like that, given the presence of indigenous life. Of course, that doesn't mean anyone would want to live there. Didn't they say the temperature drops to 40 below at night?
LV-426 was downright cozy by comparison.
LV-426 was downright cozy by comparison.
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Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 12:32:37 PM
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 12:32:37 PM
There's also the question of "life-bearing" and "human bearing".
Life can come in many forms. The engineers could survive on LV-422 but humans couldn't.
When you have the technology to make breathable atmospheres, the definition of "life-bearing" opens way up. There are multiple moons in our solar system that could be life bearing with technological intervention, but not left to their own devices.
Life can come in many forms. The engineers could survive on LV-422 but humans couldn't.
When you have the technology to make breathable atmospheres, the definition of "life-bearing" opens way up. There are multiple moons in our solar system that could be life bearing with technological intervention, but not left to their own devices.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:49:28 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:49:28 PM
True. Life could probably exist and even thrive on planets with gravity significantly different from Earth's, but it would suck for us. LV-426, despite its size, has a surface gravity that's pretty damn close to ours. Definitely better than the moon, Mars or Titan.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 12:51:26 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 12:51:26 PM
Right, at least two of the planetoids I mentioned need to be terraformed to get to a point where the air is breathable. But they can still get to a point, with human intervention, where life can eventually be stable. Also, in addition, all of them have seemingly perfect gravity for humans, without human intervation, which makes me believe that in the Alien Universe, it is more than common to find planets and moons with the capacity for life. And with FTL travel within this universe, those planets and moons that can bear life may as well be as close to us as Mars or Jupiter are to us now with our currents space travel capabilities.
Which is why I'm saying I don't believe it to be chance that WY decided on LV-426 to be the site of Hadley's Hope. You guys really don't think there's more insidious intentions behind such a decision? Especially when LV-223 is right next door?
Also, the Engineers couldn't survive on LV-223 without suits, which is why their pyramids acted as terraforming stations with breathable air cleaner than Earth's. Humans and Engineers can breathe 223's atmosphere for at least a couple minutes before succumbing to carbon dioxide poisoning, as mentioned in Prometheus.
Which is why I'm saying I don't believe it to be chance that WY decided on LV-426 to be the site of Hadley's Hope. You guys really don't think there's more insidious intentions behind such a decision? Especially when LV-223 is right next door?
Also, the Engineers couldn't survive on LV-223 without suits, which is why their pyramids acted as terraforming stations with breathable air cleaner than Earth's. Humans and Engineers can breathe 223's atmosphere for at least a couple minutes before succumbing to carbon dioxide poisoning, as mentioned in Prometheus.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:57:17 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 12:57:17 PM
Why would the company establish a colony on LV-426 and leave the derelict alone for over 20 years?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 12:59:00 PM
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 12:59:00 PM
LV-223 being next door isn't in the movies.
Hadley's Hope isn't set up as any sort research station. If WY had plans for the Aliens, Burke never would have been able to do what he did.
It was a moon with sufficient gravity and atmosphere to be terraformed into something useful. It was off the beaten track so may have just been intended to help expand interstellar flight plans, nothing more.
Hadley's Hope isn't set up as any sort research station. If WY had plans for the Aliens, Burke never would have been able to do what he did.
It was a moon with sufficient gravity and atmosphere to be terraformed into something useful. It was off the beaten track so may have just been intended to help expand interstellar flight plans, nothing more.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 01:09:47 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 01:09:47 PM
Calling a habitable exoplanet "something useful" is a major understatement, even if it offers nothing else of value (e.g. minerals, acid-bleeding rape monsters, etc.).
That's why I raise my eyebrow whenever anyone asks why a colony was put on LV-426.
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That's why I raise my eyebrow whenever anyone asks why a colony was put on LV-426.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 01:24:55 PM
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 01:24:55 PM
I'm talking in sci fi movie terms, gimme a break!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 01:25:10 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 01:25:10 PM
Do we know if Hadley's Hope was self-sustaining in terms of food and supplies? Would they need supply drops every so often to keep them afloat, maybe made by WY? Who's to say that WY wasn't visiting the Derelict within those 50 years of supply drops after Hadley's Hope was established? Fiorina 161 had supply ships visiting it every so often. Maybe Burke screwed things up for WY by intervening after hearing Ripley's story and sending the colonists to the Derelict, way out past where they would normally ever explore.
And yes, it's not established in Prometheus that LV-223 is right next door but it was meant to be. There is a possibility for that to be nullified in further installments.
And yes, it's not established in Prometheus that LV-223 is right next door but it was meant to be. There is a possibility for that to be nullified in further installments.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 01:31:04 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 01:31:04 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 01:25:10 PMWho's to say that WY wasn't visiting the Derelict within those 50 years of supply drops after Hadley's Hope was established?
Then what was the nefarious purpose of the colony in this scenario?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 01:33:31 PM
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 01:33:31 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 01:25:10 PMWho's to say that WY wasn't visiting the Derelict within those 50 years of supply drops after Hadley's Hope was established?The movie, wherein a random corporate lackey is able to undo the entire operation by sending the colonists out to those coordinates to investigate and the company does nothing to intervene.
If WY knew about the derelict and was actively exploiting it, the movie wouldn't happen.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 01:36:29 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 01:36:29 PM
And the Jordens would have been more likely to find something like this:
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 01:39:27 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 01:39:27 PM
The same reason WY themselves didn't go out to inspect the original transmission but clearly knew of it in Alien.
Hadley's Hope did have science labs outfitted with research stations and holding containers just large enough for Faceguggers! Just sayin' ;D
Hadley's Hope did have science labs outfitted with research stations and holding containers just large enough for Faceguggers! Just sayin' ;D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kane's other son on May 24, 2024, 01:58:39 PM
Post by: Kane's other son on May 24, 2024, 01:58:39 PM
Aliens only works if the ones responsible for the Nostromo incident buried the story and no one knew what was on LV-426 during the following 57 years.
It makes zero sense for the company to know about the derelict all those decades and wait for Ripley to resurface before sending some dumbass, unprepared prospectors to check it out.
It makes zero sense for the company to know about the derelict all those decades and wait for Ripley to resurface before sending some dumbass, unprepared prospectors to check it out.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:21:40 PM
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:21:40 PM
They did not know of the Alien, they just knew something was there on lv-426 and wanted it investigated. If they actually knew the Alien was there, they would send a team like they did in Alien 3
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kane's other son on May 24, 2024, 02:28:54 PM
Post by: Kane's other son on May 24, 2024, 02:28:54 PM
The implication being that Burke acted on his own, being a slimy weasel of a yuppie, and W-Y central only mobilised later on, sending their team to Fury 161.
In any case, it's pretty clear that no one knew there was something on LV-426 before Ripley came back with her story of a monster with acid for blood.
In any case, it's pretty clear that no one knew there was something on LV-426 before Ripley came back with her story of a monster with acid for blood.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:30:38 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:30:38 PM
I don't know. I've just never bought that WY didn't know what they were doing by building Hadley's Hope on LV-426.
Okay, but you still subscribe to the theory that WY built Hadley's Hope on LV-426 with ulterior motives! :laugh:
We can accept that the very ship where all of this started is just a bit of a jaunt out of the way from where Hadley's Hope happened to be built, but there are those folks who've brought up WY findingin Romulus is a bit much for them to wrap their heads around. I suppose we could all suspend our belief a bit more ;)
Getting back to Romulus, if there is no Queen stated or shown to be on board the Renaissance, can it be inferred that the multitude of Facehuggers are a product of Eggmorphing? Even though she was never seen, Creative Assembly explicitly stated there was a Queen somewhere on Sevastopol.
Ifwere the reasoning for Aliens on the station, then I assume it'd skip the Egg/Facehugger stage altogether, being born of humans more like a Neomorph with direct infection.
Quote from: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:21:40 PMThey did not know of the Alien, they just knew something was there on lv-426 and wanted it investigated. If they actually knew the Alien was there, they would send a team like they did in Alien 3
Okay, but you still subscribe to the theory that WY built Hadley's Hope on LV-426 with ulterior motives! :laugh:
We can accept that the very ship where all of this started is just a bit of a jaunt out of the way from where Hadley's Hope happened to be built, but there are those folks who've brought up WY finding
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Big Chap's body in space
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Getting back to Romulus, if there is no Queen stated or shown to be on board the Renaissance, can it be inferred that the multitude of Facehuggers are a product of Eggmorphing? Even though she was never seen, Creative Assembly explicitly stated there was a Queen somewhere on Sevastopol.
If
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Big Chap's black goo
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 02:36:50 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 02:36:50 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:30:38 PMI've just never bought that WY didn't know what they were doing by building Hadley's Hope on LV-426.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:42:31 PM
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:42:31 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:30:38 PMOkay, but you still subscribe to the theory that WY built Hadley's Hope on LV-426 with ulterior motives! :laugh:Not really. :laugh:
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 02:44:06 PM
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 02:44:06 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 02:36:50 PMhttps://i.imgur.com/YvcF8Re.png
It's uncanny... 😂
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:46:47 PM
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:46:47 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:30:38 PMI don't know. I've just never bought that WY didn't know what they were doing by building Hadley's Hope on LV-426.
The colony had been there for decades, if there was ulterior motives they would have shown it before the events of Aliens. They had decades to find the derelict.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:48:38 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:48:38 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:42:31 PMQuote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:30:38 PMOkay, but you still subscribe to the theory that WY built Hadley's Hope on LV-426 with ulterior motives! :laugh:Not really. :laugh:
Quote from: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:46:47 PMThe colony had been there for decades, if there was ulterior motives they would have shown it before the events of Aliens. They had decades to find the derelict.
You just said WY knew something was there and wanted to investigate it! Which, as previously stated by SiL and Local Trouble, doesn't make sense with the 57 year time gap! It's just a planetoid with resources! ;)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:51:17 PM
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:51:17 PM
Yeah...in Alien, 50 plus years before Aliens.....
Whoever in the company issued the special order way back then, also likely buried it. No one knew about an Alien until Ripley's interview.
Hadley's hope was just a colony.
Whoever in the company issued the special order way back then, also likely buried it. No one knew about an Alien until Ripley's interview.
Hadley's hope was just a colony.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kane's other son on May 24, 2024, 02:51:41 PM
Post by: Kane's other son on May 24, 2024, 02:51:41 PM
"There have been people there for over twenty years and they never reported any hostile organism".
LV-426 aside, Romulus needs to come up with a good explanation for the company (seemingly) abandoning Rennaissance station without securing any samples.
LV-426 aside, Romulus needs to come up with a good explanation for the company (seemingly) abandoning Rennaissance station without securing any samples.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:53:29 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:53:29 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 02:51:17 PMYeah...in Alien, 50 plus years before Aliens.....
Whoever in the company issued the special order way back then, also likely buried it. No one knew about an Alien until Ripley's interview.
Hadley's hope was just a colony.
Ah, my apologies - thought you were talking about Aliens.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:57:18 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:57:18 PM
Quote from: Kane's other son on May 24, 2024, 02:51:41 PM"There have been people there for over twenty years and they never reported any hostile organism".
LV-426 aside, Romulus needs to come up with a good explanation for the company (seemingly) abandoning Rennaissance station without securing any samples.
Did they get the chance to abandon it, though? Or were they wiped out before anyone could get off the station? I'm assuming by the end of the movie, the Renaissance will be annihilated and the story will lean into the no evidence left behind trope all four of the original movies leave us with.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 02:58:44 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 02:58:44 PM
Whoever issued SO937 knew there was a transmission coming from somewhere in that general region of space, but even the crew of the Nostromo didn't pinpoint its exact origin until they were close enough to home in on it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 03:01:10 PM
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 03:01:10 PM
You keep making the mistake that "the company" knew about the Alien/the derelict's transmissions, as opposed to "someone at the company". Weyland Yutani, as a corporation, did not reroute the Nostromo to LV-426. Someone *within* Weyland Yutani, likely a greedy slimeball similar to Burke who felt they could profit from it, was responsible.
This is why nobody believes Ripley at the hearing, and they think she is nuts. This is why nobody at Hadley's Hope was ever sent to investigate until Burke heard Ripley's story and tried his luck. The company is oblivious. And they remain oblivious until after they send Colonial Marines to investigate loss of contact, and during the Sulaco's return journey, they receive flight reorder data through the network giving them firm evidence that Ripley's story is true. They then immediately mobilise with a science team, dog handler mercs, and a high profile corporate executive to oversee the operation. That is how Weyland Yutani responds when it "knows" about the alien.
This is why nobody believes Ripley at the hearing, and they think she is nuts. This is why nobody at Hadley's Hope was ever sent to investigate until Burke heard Ripley's story and tried his luck. The company is oblivious. And they remain oblivious until after they send Colonial Marines to investigate loss of contact, and during the Sulaco's return journey, they receive flight reorder data through the network giving them firm evidence that Ripley's story is true. They then immediately mobilise with a science team, dog handler mercs, and a high profile corporate executive to oversee the operation. That is how Weyland Yutani responds when it "knows" about the alien.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kane's other son on May 24, 2024, 03:13:26 PM
Post by: Kane's other son on May 24, 2024, 03:13:26 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 02:57:18 PMQuote from: Kane's other son on May 24, 2024, 02:51:41 PM"There have been people there for over twenty years and they never reported any hostile organism".
LV-426 aside, Romulus needs to come up with a good explanation for the company (seemingly) abandoning Rennaissance station without securing any samples.
Did they get the chance to abandon it, though? Or were they wiped out before anyone could get off the station? I'm assuming by the end of the movie, the Renaissance will be annihilated and the story will lean into the no evidence left behind trope all four of the original movies leave us with.
If a modern-day conglomerate lost all contact with a large research facility or an oil rig, they would investigate, not shrug it off.
I just hope they come up with a decent explanation that's not going to make a (bigger) mess out of the old movies.
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 02:58:44 PMWhoever issued SO937 knew there was a transmission coming from somewhere in that general region of space, but even the crew of the Nostromo didn't pinpoint its exact origin until they were close enough to home in on it.
Regarding Special Order 937, there's a thematically far better explanation: It's a standard, automated procedure when the opportunity to retrieve samples of an extra-terrestrial organism arises.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 03:30:08 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 03:30:08 PM
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 03:01:10 PMYou keep making the mistake that "the company" knew about the Alien/the derelict's transmissions, as opposed to "someone at the company". Weyland Yutani, as a corporation, did not reroute the Nostromo to LV-426. Someone *within* Weyland Yutani, likely a greedy slimeball similar to Burke who felt they could profit from it, was responsible.
This is why nobody believes Ripley at the hearing, and they think she is nuts. This is why nobody at Hadley's Hope was ever sent to investigate until Burke heard Ripley's story and tried his luck. The company is oblivious. And they remain oblivious until after they send Colonial Marines to investigate loss of contact, and during the Sulaco's return journey, they receive flight reorder data through the network giving them firm evidence that Ripley's story is true. They then immediately mobilise with a science team, dog handler mercs, and a high profile corporate executive to oversee the operation. That is how Weyland Yutani responds when it "knows" about the alien.
I get how that could be the case, just a single person calling the shots at a time when the moment arises. But it's never stated in Alien that it's one person's actions either. In fact, it's the opposite. It's only when Aliens comes along, does the possibility of a singular person during 2122's events comes into the picture.
Is Ripley meant to be making this mistake throughout the first three films as well? We're not meant to take her trepidation with The Company as a whole at face value? She's always referred to the bad guy as "The Company", which implies multiples of people involved. Bishop II proves right up to Ripley's very end that they're liars and always have different motives.
A ton of the expanded media over the last 36 years has dealt with "The Company" trying to get this thing. So, I wouldn't say that a single person at a time calling the shots is 100 percent the truth either.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 03:36:08 PM
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 03:36:08 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 03:30:08 PMQuote from: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 03:01:10 PMYou keep making the mistake that "the company" knew about the Alien/the derelict's transmissions, as opposed to "someone at the company". Weyland Yutani, as a corporation, did not reroute the Nostromo to LV-426. Someone *within* Weyland Yutani, likely a greedy slimeball similar to Burke who felt they could profit from it, was responsible.
This is why nobody believes Ripley at the hearing, and they think she is nuts. This is why nobody at Hadley's Hope was ever sent to investigate until Burke heard Ripley's story and tried his luck. The company is oblivious. And they remain oblivious until after they send Colonial Marines to investigate loss of contact, and during the Sulaco's return journey, they receive flight reorder data through the network giving them firm evidence that Ripley's story is true. They then immediately mobilise with a science team, dog handler mercs, and a high profile corporate executive to oversee the operation. That is how Weyland Yutani responds when it "knows" about the alien.
I get how that could be the case, just a single person calling the shots at a time when the moment arises. But it's never stated in Alien that it's one person's actions either. In fact, it's the opposite. It's only when Aliens comes along, does the possibility of a singular person during 2122's events comes into the picture.
Is Ripley meant to be making this mistake throughout the first three films as well? We're not meant to take her trepidation with The Company as a whole at face value? She's always referred to the bad guy as, "The Company", which implies multiples of people involved. Bishop II proves right up to Ripley's very end that they're liars and always have different motives.
A ton of the expanded media over the last 36 years has dealt with "The Company" trying to get this thing, not singular persons. So, I wouldn't say that a single person at a time calling the shots is 100 percent the truth either.
Then why leave the derelict untouched for 57 years? If you know where it as as you've already sent a ship there and declared crew expendable, why terraform the planet, set up a colony, and do nothing? Yet upon learning about a facehugger on board the sulaco immediately deploy a team? Every *logical* assumption point to the fact that they didn't know. Who else would Ripley blame? See sees a directive sent to science officer eyes only. So she assumes it's the company. Same as Hadley's Hope; they receive orders from Burke so follow what they take as 'company orders'.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 03:38:11 PM
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 03:38:11 PM
Ripley would logically be biased against the company after her experiences.
As for the 36 years, that is mostly non-canon and some folks did have a problem with whole mustache twirling villian the company gets portrayed as in the EU.
As for the 36 years, that is mostly non-canon and some folks did have a problem with whole mustache twirling villian the company gets portrayed as in the EU.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 03:50:45 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 03:50:45 PM
I guess we'll have to see how Romulus plays out and to what degree Weyland-Yutani are directly involved, cause it could throw a very large wrench into that line of reasoning :D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 03:54:04 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 03:54:04 PM
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 03:56:05 PM
Post by: The Cruentus on May 24, 2024, 03:56:05 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 03:50:45 PMI guess we'll have to see how Romulus plays out and to what degree Weyland-Yutani are directly involved, cause it could throw a very large wrench into that line of reasoning :D
True, but this movie already sounds like its going to add a lot of controversial stuff that some of us don't think was a good idea, one more is not going to matter now.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 04:26:55 PM
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 04:26:55 PM
They should've gotten a Nostromo flight record transmission stating the coordinates of the derelict; then use the marines to gather a few eggs and disable the beacon so no one else can find it. Bring back the retrieved eggs to a nearby research station constructed for this very purpose. Carnage ensues.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 04:36:00 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 04:36:00 PM
I'd think the marines are the last people they'd want to involve in a specimen-retrieval.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 04:46:49 PM
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 04:36:00 PMI'd think the marines are the last people they'd want to involve in a specimen-retrieval.
Why?
If tasked with that as their mission, and given the proper equipment designed for that very purpose, what would be the issue?
Also, a special forces unit that does the bidding of WY would show a darker more corrupt side of the military.
Also, perhaps the pulse rifle is being developed specifically as a way to pacify xinos, should they get out of hand; hence, the marines being able to make swiss cheese out of xenos in Aliens.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 04:53:35 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 04:53:35 PM
The US military doesn't answer to the company.
The company would be better off sending their own PMCs.
The company would be better off sending their own PMCs.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 24, 2024, 04:59:26 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 24, 2024, 04:59:26 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 04:53:35 PMThe US military doesn't answer to the company.
The company would be better off sending their own PMCs.
Hadley's Hope is a United Americas colony, so the Marines would have to respond.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 05:02:06 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 05:02:06 PM
What does that have to do with sending the marines to fetch eggs from the derelict for the company?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 05:09:38 PM
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 05:09:38 PM
If WY wants the xeno for their bio weapons division; that would also be in the interest of the military. Lockheed Martin, Bell Helicopter etc. all take contracts from the Military Industrial Complex; I'd imagine it wouldn't be much different for WY.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 05:12:39 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 05:12:39 PM
You'll note that they didn't send marines in Alien 3.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 05:19:42 PM
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 05:19:42 PM
Ether way, this is a better idea than just happening to bump into big chap in the vastness of space.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 05:20:32 PM
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 04:26:55 PMThey should've gotten a Nostromo flight record transmission stating the coordinates of the derelict; then use the marines to gather a few eggs and disable the beacon so no one else can find it. Bring back the retrieved eggs to a nearby research station constructed for this very purpose. Carnage ensues.
Take a couple of eggs, but leave a few thousand untouched, as well as the priceless ancient alien relic/ship/technology and all they could learn from it untouched? 🤣
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 05:28:17 PM
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 05:28:17 PM
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 05:20:32 PMQuote from: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 04:26:55 PMThey should've gotten a Nostromo flight record transmission stating the coordinates of the derelict; then use the marines to gather a few eggs and disable the beacon so no one else can find it. Bring back the retrieved eggs to a nearby research station constructed for this very purpose. Carnage ensues.
Take a couple of eggs, but leave a few thousand untouched, as well as the priceless ancient alien relic/ship/technology and all they could learn from it untouched? 🤣
Just for the beginning of this movie.
They can go back as many times as they like being that they, and they alone know where the ship is located.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 05:56:53 PM
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 05:56:53 PM
Quote from: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 05:28:17 PMQuote from: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 05:20:32 PMQuote from: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 04:26:55 PMThey should've gotten a Nostromo flight record transmission stating the coordinates of the derelict; then use the marines to gather a few eggs and disable the beacon so no one else can find it. Bring back the retrieved eggs to a nearby research station constructed for this very purpose. Carnage ensues.
Take a couple of eggs, but leave a few thousand untouched, as well as the priceless ancient alien relic/ship/technology and all they could learn from it untouched? 🤣
Just for the beginning of this movie.
They can go back as many times as they like being that they, and they alone know where the ship is located.
Errmmm... nahhh, think I'll happily take finding big chap in the vastness of space over Corporation finding most significant find in human history and just leaving it there with zero security/claim, and keeping fingers crossed that nobody notices.. 😅
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 24, 2024, 07:16:58 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 24, 2024, 07:16:58 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 05:12:39 PMYou'll note that they didn't send marines in Alien 3.
Yeah, because Fiorina 161 is a Three World Empire world.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 08:01:33 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 08:01:33 PM
You should read the Bishop novel again.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 08:11:25 PM
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on May 24, 2024, 08:11:25 PM
That, and the fact that they are *Colonial* marines... Fiorina 161 isn't a colony. It's a double-y chromosome correctional facility.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 09:17:06 PM
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 09:17:06 PM
They don't send the marines because they're not the government. WY sends their own PMC team to collect Ripley and the Alien to maintain control over the situation.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 10:09:07 PM
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 10:09:07 PM
Quote from: SiL on May 24, 2024, 09:17:06 PMThey don't send the marines because they're not the government. WY sends their own PMC team to collect Ripley and the Alien to maintain control over the situation.
WY sent marines in Aliens...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 10:10:21 PM
Post by: SiL on May 24, 2024, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 10:09:07 PMThe government sent the marines. The operation was under military jurisdiction, WY had no control over it. There was a whole scene about it.Quote from: SiL on May 24, 2024, 09:17:06 PMThey don't send the marines because they're not the government. WY sends their own PMC team to collect Ripley and the Alien to maintain control over the situation.
WY sent marines in Aliens...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: TheBATMAN on May 25, 2024, 07:34:48 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on May 25, 2024, 07:34:48 PM
From the leaks we know the prologue is set pretty soon after Alien where Big Chap is recovered and taken back to Renaissance Station. The story then jumps ahead 20 years. This makes me wonder if the 'Remus' module is a new, bio-weapons lab added to the station sometime during this period? This would align with Fede's comments about things starting out looking like 'Alien' and then the technology gradually morphs into Aliens. Also, from the Alien day pic he posted in 2023 we also see the 'Aliens' Wey-Yu logo on the wall, and not the original, 'Alien' logo, again suggesting this was a later addition if the station itself already existed during the events of Alien.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: The Cruentus on May 25, 2024, 09:46:02 PM
Post by: The Cruentus on May 25, 2024, 09:46:02 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on May 25, 2024, 07:34:48 PMFrom the leaks we know the prologue is set pretty soon after Alien where Big Chap is recovered and taken back to Renaissance Station. The story then jumps ahead 20 years. This makes me wonder if the 'Remus' module is a new, bio-weapons lab added to the station sometime during this period? This would align with Fede's comments about things starting out looking like 'Alien' and then the technology gradually morphs into Aliens. Also, from the Alien day pic he posted in 2023 we also see the 'Aliens' Wey-Yu logo on the wall, and not the original, 'Alien' logo, again suggesting this was a later addition if the station itself already existed during the events of Alien.
Still think the BC thing is stupid but its something we have to now accept. There at least better be a damn good explanation on how they somehow found BC though.
From what I remember of Alien, there is nothing following the shuttle so there is nothing behind it to see anything be ejected, and even if there was its unlikely they could intercept it before it blended into vastness of space
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 25, 2024, 09:58:05 PM
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 25, 2024, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: SiL on May 24, 2024, 10:10:21 PMQuote from: Feeds On Minds on May 24, 2024, 10:09:07 PMThe government sent the marines. The operation was under military jurisdiction, WY had no control over it. There was a whole scene about it.Quote from: SiL on May 24, 2024, 09:17:06 PMThey don't send the marines because they're not the government. WY sends their own PMC team to collect Ripley and the Alien to maintain control over the situation.
WY sent marines in Aliens...
Oh that's right "military jurisdiction"
My bad.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 26, 2024, 09:28:58 AM
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 26, 2024, 09:28:58 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 24, 2024, 08:01:33 PMYou should read the Bishop novel again.
No, I shouldn't.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: YutaniDitch on May 29, 2024, 11:33:24 AM
Post by: YutaniDitch on May 29, 2024, 11:33:24 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on May 24, 2024, 10:31:14 AMQuote from: YutaniDitch on May 23, 2024, 10:47:49 AMThe unknown cast is already a dead giveaway of the lack of confidence the studios have on the movie
Sigourney Weaver was pretty much an unknown in 1979, and we all know how that turned out.
Well, this is not 1979, this is not the first Alien movie and these are not the same people at the helm of the studio! Those were visionaries, these are just corporate hacks! Also, Sigourney was one of a kind QUALITY actress at a one of a kind era! These kids are just cheap labor to save the studios a buck, simple as that! Ian Holm, Tom Skerrit, John Hurt, Veronica Cartwright, Harry Dean Stanton and Yaphet Kotto can never be comparable in experience and quality with these talentless kids fresh of auditions! I highly doubt any of these kids will stand out at all acting-wise, much less have the protagonist become the next Sigourney... So, I applaud your naïve enthusiasm, but we all know how these movies get made these days...!
Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 11:39:13 AMQuote from: YutaniDitch on May 23, 2024, 10:47:49 AMMore than just the gore and winks at the franchise, I will be paying close attention to it's connection to the original two movies, especially how they came across the black goo, how they managed to replicate the Xenos with it, and how the events in this movie did not transpire to Weyland-Yutani being aware of the existence of the Xenos between ALIEN and ALIENS! We all know that even though WY was aware of the Xeno in ALIEN, the colonists were only sent to the Derelict by Burke AFTER Ripley told them what had happened at the Nostromo!
For Hadley's Hope to be set up on LV-426 in the first place, WY absolutely knew about the Alien. There's no way it was by chance they chose that specific tiny moon just 20 years after the events of Alien to build a colony.
I think they knew about the Derelict in the first movie, too. Special Order 937 was carried out under the guise of "All transmissions picked up must be investigated or you're penalized with total forfeiture of shares". WY knew the route the Nostromo would take to get back to Earth and they installed Ash on board literally prior to the Nostromo's return from Thedus to see that their plans were carried out.
WY has always lied. And they've always known. Whether it's because of David or something we haven't seen yet? I don't know.
If WY knew, hence why they put terraforming crews there (sounds convoluted to me, to wait 20+ years in order to disguise their REAL intentions?!), why did they take 20+ years AND Burke (not management, just a greedy corporate lackey) to FINALLY have a family sent to the Derelict to explore it?! This sounds very illogical to me! If WY knew all along where the Nostromo were, why did WY take 57 years since the Nostromo was destroyed, and the latter 20+ years of those to settle people there, to FINALLY send someone to check the Derelict out!? My guess is that somehow during those 57 years, the information got lost within WY, probably due to management changes and/or firings, and that information got lost and only after Ripley's inquiry, Burke, NOT WY MANAGEMENT, decided to check it out! Sounds strange, doesn't it?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on May 29, 2024, 11:47:46 AM
Post by: SiL on May 29, 2024, 11:47:46 AM
What a bunch of rambling nonsense.
Spaeny has been in at least two releases in the last twelve months with glowing praise for her performances.
Spaeny has been in at least two releases in the last twelve months with glowing praise for her performances.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on May 29, 2024, 11:49:12 AM
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on May 29, 2024, 11:49:12 AM
Cailee Spaeny doesn't have to be the next Sigourney Weaver. She has to be the best version of herself as an actress.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Rankles75 on May 29, 2024, 12:01:14 PM
Post by: Rankles75 on May 29, 2024, 12:01:14 PM
A new release in the Alien or Predator series never fails to bring the numpties out of the woodwork... :P
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 29, 2024, 12:18:55 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 29, 2024, 12:18:55 PM
As often people have clairvoyance gifts here.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 29, 2024, 12:37:24 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on May 29, 2024, 12:37:24 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on May 29, 2024, 11:33:24 AMI applaud your naïve enthusiasm
Well, aren't you lovely.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: The Cruentus on May 29, 2024, 12:44:04 PM
Post by: The Cruentus on May 29, 2024, 12:44:04 PM
Just ignore and move on from the comment. Nothing will get solved and the thread will only be derailed.
Spoiler
Other than Big Chap, and ash model, what is the supposed other connections to the original film?
[close]
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 29, 2024, 01:49:20 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 29, 2024, 01:49:20 PM
As far as leaks goes, that's it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Jonjamess on May 30, 2024, 01:19:50 PM
Post by: Jonjamess on May 30, 2024, 01:19:50 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on May 29, 2024, 11:33:24 AMQuote from: Slutty Badger on May 24, 2024, 10:31:14 AMQuote from: YutaniDitch on May 23, 2024, 10:47:49 AMThe unknown cast is already a dead giveaway of the lack of confidence the studios have on the movie
Sigourney Weaver was pretty much an unknown in 1979, and we all know how that turned out.
Well, this is not 1979, this is not the first Alien movie and these are not the same people at the helm of the studio! Those were visionaries, these are just corporate hacks! Also, Sigourney was one of a kind QUALITY actress at a one of a kind era! These kids are just cheap labor to save the studios a buck, simple as that! Ian Holm, Tom Skerrit, John Hurt, Veronica Cartwright, Harry Dean Stanton and Yaphet Kotto can never be comparable in experience and quality with these talentless kids fresh of auditions! I highly doubt any of these kids will stand out at all acting-wise, much less have the protagonist become the next Sigourney... So, I applaud your naïve enthusiasm, but we all know how these movies get made these days...!Quote from: GrimmVision on May 24, 2024, 11:39:13 AMQuote from: YutaniDitch on May 23, 2024, 10:47:49 AMMore than just the gore and winks at the franchise, I will be paying close attention to it's connection to the original two movies, especially how they came across the black goo, how they managed to replicate the Xenos with it, and how the events in this movie did not transpire to Weyland-Yutani being aware of the existence of the Xenos between ALIEN and ALIENS! We all know that even though WY was aware of the Xeno in ALIEN, the colonists were only sent to the Derelict by Burke AFTER Ripley told them what had happened at the Nostromo!
For Hadley's Hope to be set up on LV-426 in the first place, WY absolutely knew about the Alien. There's no way it was by chance they chose that specific tiny moon just 20 years after the events of Alien to build a colony.
I think they knew about the Derelict in the first movie, too. Special Order 937 was carried out under the guise of "All transmissions picked up must be investigated or you're penalized with total forfeiture of shares". WY knew the route the Nostromo would take to get back to Earth and they installed Ash on board literally prior to the Nostromo's return from Thedus to see that their plans were carried out.
WY has always lied. And they've always known. Whether it's because of David or something we haven't seen yet? I don't know.
If WY knew, hence why they put terraforming crews there (sounds convoluted to me, to wait 20+ years in order to disguise their REAL intentions?!), why did they take 20+ years AND Burke (not management, just a greedy corporate lackey) to FINALLY have a family sent to the Derelict to explore it?! This sounds very illogical to me! If WY knew all along where the Nostromo were, why did WY take 57 years since the Nostromo was destroyed, and the latter 20+ years of those to settle people there, to FINALLY send someone to check the Derelict out!? My guess is that somehow during those 57 years, the information got lost within WY, probably due to management changes and/or firings, and that information got lost and only after Ripley's inquiry, Burke, NOT WY MANAGEMENT, decided to check it out! Sounds strange, doesn't it?
I simply do not understand people's obsession with this WY conspiracy. They clearly DIDN'T know the colony was next to the Derelict.
How much more obvious does the movie have to make it?
-Burke sends the colonists to investigate of his own accord, NOT WY.
-he does this 57 years after the Nostromo incident and 20 years after the colony is built! I mean like they couldn't have dressed in space suits and gone and investigated if they knew it was there
-the movie makes clear Burke is acting at LEAST partially alone and not with WY authority. Ripley: I just checked the company logs signed Carter J Burke. You sent them out there and you didn't even warn them, why didn't you warn them Burke? I'm going to make sure they nail YOU right to the wall for this.
Burke: Those specimens are worth millions, we can both come out of this set up for life.
How much clearer would people like Cameron to make it that Burke acted alone and WY didn't believe Ripley about the Derelict or the Alien!
I mean Cameron even states in either some commentary or an interview that Burke is working alone although don't ask me to source it I can't remember where he said it.
There's no logical way in any sensical fashion that WY knows of the Derelict, waits 30 plus years, builds a colony and then waits 20 years after that before bloody doing anything! Or did one of them just go "Oh they've found that Ripley women, that rings a bell about something, oh crap I forgot I was supposed to order some colonists to investigate a money making Alien spaceship 57 years ago but completely forgot! Damn and then I had them set up that colony 20 years ago and I forgot again! I'm gonna be fired for sure."
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 30, 2024, 09:07:48 PM
Post by: Feeds On Minds on May 30, 2024, 09:07:48 PM
The movie does make that obvious, it's just really dumb.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kane's other son on May 31, 2024, 10:09:20 AM
Post by: Kane's other son on May 31, 2024, 10:09:20 AM
Cameron is explicitly using Burke to criticise Yuppies. Remember, the movie was released in 1986.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: YutaniDitch on May 31, 2024, 10:43:05 AM
Post by: YutaniDitch on May 31, 2024, 10:43:05 AM
Quote from: SiL on May 29, 2024, 11:47:46 AMWhat a bunch of rambling nonsense.
Spaeny has been in at least two releases in the last twelve months with glowing praise for her performances.
Sorry, never heard of her... Know she was in that God awful CIVIL WAR, but other than that, nope! Don't get me wrong, if she is well written, her character could be good! IF she is well written, which in these movies, post-Sigourney, is a gamble to bet on!
Quote from: Rankles75 on May 29, 2024, 12:01:14 PMA new release in the Alien or Predator series never fails to bring the numpties out of the woodwork... :P
Says the guy with 1000+ posts here, at an ALIEN and PREDATOR FANsite FORUM!!... LOL Just teasing ya, man, we are all fans here, some, like me, more aggressive and vocal about their concerns, than others!
The movie could be good, but my doubts reside in the very need for it, especially since we still need completion/resolution of the David arc, not another ALIEN clone with corridors, fresh meat for the Xeno grinder, and not much else to be added to the lore! Well, at least, nothing that won't create continuity problems of their own, at least! LOL
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: SiL on May 31, 2024, 10:49:34 AM
Post by: SiL on May 31, 2024, 10:49:34 AM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Yesterday at 10:43:05 AMSorry, never heard of her... Know she was in that God awful CIVIL WAR, but other than that, nope!So what?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 31, 2024, 11:48:18 AM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 31, 2024, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Yesterday at 10:43:05 AMwe still need completion/resolution of the David arc
"We" need it ?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: YutaniDitch on May 31, 2024, 01:44:22 PM
Post by: YutaniDitch on May 31, 2024, 01:44:22 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Yesterday at 11:48:18 AMQuote from: YutaniDitch on Yesterday at 10:43:05 AMwe still need completion/resolution of the David arc
"We" need it ?
Yes, me and my multiple personas, obviously! :laugh: Also, probably a few fans out there want it, I am assuming, but in all honesty, better that stinky can of worms remains closed 4ever just in case Ridley wants to toy with it some more and make it even worse than he already did! Whoops, too late, the black goo is still in play in ROMULUS, so no retcon there! :-X
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Highland on May 31, 2024, 01:52:46 PM
Post by: Highland on May 31, 2024, 01:52:46 PM
Thing is with the David Arc, let's assume he is the space jockey (yuk) , why would there be an Alien warning signal coming from the ship? Also the we've never saw an android be impregnated. None of would make sense.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 31, 2024, 02:44:00 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 31, 2024, 02:44:00 PM
David won't be the Jockey :)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 31, 2024, 02:45:03 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 31, 2024, 02:45:03 PM
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Kradan on May 31, 2024, 07:33:41 PM
Post by: Kradan on May 31, 2024, 07:33:41 PM
I think David being SJ is a straight-up dumb idea, I don't know who came up with it and why people so ready to believe that's where Ridley was going with the third prequel
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 31, 2024, 08:14:17 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 31, 2024, 08:14:17 PM
I think it sucks ass but Ridley could have gone that way honestly.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: GrimmVision on May 31, 2024, 08:22:02 PM
Post by: GrimmVision on May 31, 2024, 08:22:02 PM
They want to make the decision to dislike it due to their disdain for the prior two.
If anything, I think Romulus and the FX series are going to inform the third prequel, when it happens. Both projects are under Scott Free. In my mind, Hawley has the grace to allow the Engineers, Prometheus, and Covenant to remain intact. Whether Hawley references them is up for debate, but he won't break them. Change them? Possibly, but not outright nullify them.
And well, we already know Romulus has connections to the prequels baked into it.
If anything, I think Romulus and the FX series are going to inform the third prequel, when it happens. Both projects are under Scott Free. In my mind, Hawley has the grace to allow the Engineers, Prometheus, and Covenant to remain intact. Whether Hawley references them is up for debate, but he won't break them. Change them? Possibly, but not outright nullify them.
And well, we already know Romulus has connections to the prequels baked into it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on May 31, 2024, 08:47:39 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on May 31, 2024, 08:47:39 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on Yesterday at 08:22:02 PMThey want to make the decision to dislike it due to their disdain for the prior two.
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Highland on Jun 01, 2024, 12:56:08 AM
Post by: Highland on Jun 01, 2024, 12:56:08 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Yesterday at 07:33:41 PMI think David being SJ is a straight-up dumb idea, I don't know who came up with it and why people so ready to believe that's where Ridley was going with the third prequel
I think his insistence on making it non-bio mechanical in covenant ( apparently giving the artists very clear instructions) and the potential to make it Bio Mechanical in the last film , I think lead people to believe that David and his mechanical bits would some how be responsible in the third film.
That's my take on the interpretation of why that came about.
I think Ridley may have even said "that stuff comes later" , but my old man brain is probably forgetting things.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Jun 01, 2024, 03:42:20 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Jun 01, 2024, 03:42:20 PM
Quote from: GrimmVision on Yesterday at 08:22:02 PMIf anything, I think Romulus and the FX series are going to inform the third prequel, when it happens.
I'd prefer that Romulus hold some answers, rather than waiting for yet another film.
I think that the time for the third prequel has long since passed anyway.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jun 01, 2024, 06:53:23 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jun 01, 2024, 06:53:23 PM
I really doubt it's going to touch any of that stuff with a ten foot space pole. But I agree with GV that what it does have, may colour any future media that directly tackles prequel concepts.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Slutty Badger on Jun 01, 2024, 07:11:17 PM
Post by: Slutty Badger on Jun 01, 2024, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Today at 06:53:23 PMI really doubt it's going to touch any of that stuff with a ten foot space pole.
It bloody well better!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jun 01, 2024, 08:02:33 PM
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jun 01, 2024, 08:02:33 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Today at 07:11:17 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Today at 06:53:23 PMI really doubt it's going to touch any of that stuff with a ten foot space pole.
It bloody well better!
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Title: Re: [Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 01, 2024, 08:05:07 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 01, 2024, 08:05:07 PM
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