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Thanks to the various Alien social media accounts we have a brand new picture of Ridley Scott & Michael Fassbender on the set of Alien: Covenant!

Simply captioned “Creator. Creation. ‪#‎AlienCovenant‬” this latest picture reveals nothing of the story. We can see Michael Fassbender in the background, sporting a brown haircut and a completely different hair style to the David 8 we saw in Prometheus. It is likely that this is the “doppelganger” that Ridley Scott said Fassbender would be portraying alongside the David 8 from Prometheus.

We get a first half-glimpse at Carmen Ejogo in what appears to be a white top perhaps suggesting a scientific or medical role amongst the crew? We can also see one of the new space costume helmets that Janty Yates spoke about back in December.

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So that confirms a second David 8, or that's the original.

It's the new David 8. Completely different hair style and colour.

The woman behind Ridley, is that Carmen Ejogo?

Certainly looked like it to me.

I had almost forgotten about the second David. As always, the visuals and aesthetics are on point. So excited!

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2016, 01:39:01 PM
Certainly looked like it to me.

Yes, you did point that out.  I must have missed that.

I like the look of the helmet.  Different to Prometheus and The Martian.  Looks much closer to the helmets in the original Alien.

People forget that David dyed his hair in Prometheus his personality was based on Mr Waylands son which believe was also called David.

If I had to take bets I am guessing this android will probably get ghost in the shelled by head found on paradise.

Bang Evil David is bad.

Old school. HYPE

Quote from: Scorpio on Jun 15, 2016, 01:45:07 PM
I like the look of the helmet.  Different to Prometheus and The Martian.  Looks much closer to the helmets in the original Alien.

Definitely looks like they're trying to take that little step towards the Alien design. I like it.

Cool. David is one great actor/android. I don't think he's going to turn out crazy evil though. Old school designs Alien style will rock too.

I initially though that photo was of Billy Crudup lol. Silly me lol. Liking the look already

I'm hoping we get to see the two Davids interact together on screen. I'd really like to see this factory model opposite whatever Prometheus' David 8 has become.

There is so much potential here...

This movie will be good. I know that! ;) :D

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2016, 01:13:13 PM
This is likely the new David 8 that comes along aboard the Covenant.

Hold on a sec, when was it confirmed that the other David will come along with the Covenant? We've only been speculating about that haven't we?  ???

Nah, Ridley confirmed it.

Linky plz

QuoteScott said Alien: Covenant will pick up from the end of Prometheus, and see Fassbender playing two versions of his android character, David.

Quote"Confirming that Sydney would be the location for Alien: Covenant on Friday, Scott said it would follow on from 2012's Prometheus and would have Michael Fassbender returning as both android David and a doppelganger."

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/11/27/michael-fassbender-will-play-multiple-davids/

Yeah, but there's nothing saying that the other David will come along with the Covenant.

Prometheus David could simply have made copies of himself in order to do more mischief.  :P

Completely misread your post - I thought you'd said was it confirmed there'd be two of them. Nah, fair point. It's not been said yet, I'll reword that.

It's still definitely a possibility. But it would be quite the co-incidence for the Covenant to also just happen to have a David on-board. Unless every single W-Y ship has a David on-board as SOP. Kinda like all those Bishops in Aliens: Colonial Marines.

I'd be surprised if he didn't come along with the Covenant. I don't really see David (nearly typed Michael here) creating copies of himself. I think it'd be more in line for the new David to just be attached to this colony crew. He's probably pretty reliable but maybe starting to be out-dated.

I have a strong feeling that David and his doppelganger will play crucial role in this PARADISE LOST movie! Symbolic is clear! But David will not be the ultimate creator of Alien! Creature that created black goo is the creator of Xeno, and Engineers did not create goo! I received some infos that suggest Covenant will indeed explore more mythological/religious themes! Those themes would not be pure repilica of Paradise Lost story or other related mythos, but the implications would be pretty clear, after all Ridley said that he imagined that kind of scenario all along. How do I know this, well I asked people involved and two of them wrote me that this movie is not going to be what we expect at all.

We ll most probably get hints of an entity above Engineers, and Engineers are just advanced humans (no more no less!!!) trying to play gods. What will happen if their creation or creation of their creation (David) try to do the same! ???
What happened to them (Engineers), probably will struck humans. I belive that we already seen "Devil" (bad guy) in this story (Engineers, humans and David). Weyland said that humans are the gods now, they are the titan Prometheus (Satan or Lucifer). Now its the time to see who is God? And the hints regarding this entry will be very interesting and not what we expect. We will not see complete anwers to all the questions! I have reliable confirmation about that.

Who is evil guy in this story. I belive that the answer would be humans!
Who made Covenant and with whom?

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2016, 03:08:05 PM
I'd be surprised if he didn't come along with the Covenant. I don't really see David (nearly typed Michael here) creating copies of himself. I think it'd be more in line for the new David to just be attached to this colony crew. He's probably pretty reliable but maybe starting to be out-dated.

And his replacement version worked out real well right!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Quote from: tmjhur on Jun 15, 2016, 03:29:10 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2016, 03:08:05 PM
I'd be surprised if he didn't come along with the Covenant. I don't really see David (nearly typed Michael here) creating copies of himself. I think it'd be more in line for the new David to just be attached to this colony crew. He's probably pretty reliable but maybe starting to be out-dated.

And his replacement version worked out real well right!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd1w7nqlfxfj094.cloudfront.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F10%2Fash-ripley-magazine-alien-620x310.jpg&hash=6a168c3d00d49f5c846e9cd7009ff32e44cd6879)

The A-2s always were a bit twitchy.  :laugh: To be fair, we don't really know how stable David was.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2016, 03:31:14 PM

Quote from: tmjhur on Jun 15, 2016, 03:29:10 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2016, 03:08:05 PM
I'd be surprised if he didn't come along with the Covenant. I don't really see David (nearly typed Michael here) creating copies of himself. I think it'd be more in line for the new David to just be attached to this colony crew. He's probably pretty reliable but maybe starting to be out-dated.

And his replacement version worked out real well right!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd1w7nqlfxfj094.cloudfront.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F10%2Fash-ripley-magazine-alien-620x310.jpg&hash=6a168c3d00d49f5c846e9cd7009ff32e44cd6879)

The A-2s always were a bit twitchy.  :laugh: To be fair, we don't really know how stable David was.

He seems pretty stable. He just took over-riding orders from Weyland which made up do.......questionable things ;)
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Maybe he's the guy they modeled the David 8 from?? Like how the real bishop showed up in A3, they probably sent him to find out why he went nutso..

David 8 in Prometheus didn't seem like he was behaving as he was advertised to do, in the original commercial. I think he was modified, or, like in Blade Runner, started to develop his own thought responses-- you know, love, hate, fear, envy?

That, or Weyland removed certain safeguards that would normally be in place to allow David 8 to be more flexible in carrying out Weyland's orders.

Or, David was underestimated by his own creators, being more intelligent and self-aware than anyone anticipated. After all, Weyland said David lacked a soul, but if his behavior was his own, wasn't programed, perhaps Weyland was wrong about David.

The cool thing about Prometheus is that it's never explained, or explicitly stated in the film, and any of these explanations is possible, given David's enigmatic and duplicitous nature. Beneath that comely and calm visage lurked a cunning menace.

That can't be the David we know, he would do more with himself than just change hair style...

Amazing picture. Fass looks more like a robot than Prometheus version. The skin, the make up....

Great, Scott, great.

Quote from: WISPARTAN on Jun 15, 2016, 01:51:02 PM
People forget that David dyed his hair in Prometheus his personality was based on Mr Waylands son which believe was also called David.

If I had to take bets I am guessing this android will probably get ghost in the shelled by head found on paradise.

Bang Evil David is bad.

His personality was based on T. E. Lawrence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence)

That helmet looks like one of Moebius' designs.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/15062016_01.jpg)

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Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 15, 2016, 09:48:14 PM
That helmet looks like one of Moebius' designs.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/15062016_01.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClA5pTOVEAAps2C.jpg)

Beat me to it!  :D

I really like it... it's got Alien's ruggedness and Prometheus's sleekness combined.

Could they have included elements of the power loader into that helmet? The yellow construction site feel? For that matter will we se a power loader in anny of the sequels?

Wasn't there an implication of terraforming in Prometheus? Supposedly in the John Spaights script Alien Engineers had the plot of Weyland or somebody who sole interested in finding the engineers was to obtain technology for terraforming purposes. It seems Scott is incorporating/exploring an element in Aliens by James Cameron. It'd be funny/awkward if one of these prequel had reference to the prison Fiorina 161 but by Blomkamp's movie it doesn't take Alien 3 in canon.   :P

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2016, 02:14:54 PM
I'm hoping we get to see the two Davids interact together on screen. I'd really like to see this factory model opposite whatever Prometheus' David 8 has become.

Unless their timelines are different Im guessing the original David 8 will take a very special interest in the new David 8.

Fassbender in the background is giving me some major Lance Henriksen vibes

I didn't see that until you pointed it out, but you're right.

He's Good David. Goody-little-two-shoes. The other David is Bad David.

I haven't rewatched Prometheus for a while now, so I'm a little hazy. But wasn't David always slinking off to receive "orders" from the sleeping/dreaming Weyland for most of the movie?

When Weyland dies, presumably David is no longer "owned" by his primary user Weyland. Whether or not that means David is then even more/less of a loose cannon who knows.

His gesture towards Shaw (seemingly helpful) to find a spare ship - thats the first time we see David without Weyland's influence, right?

Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Jun 15, 2016, 11:23:30 PM
Wasn't there an implication of terraforming in Prometheus? Supposedly in the John Spaights script Alien Engineers had the plot of Weyland or somebody who sole interested in finding the engineers was to obtain technology for terraforming purposes. It seems Scott is incorporating/exploring an element in Aliens by James Cameron. It'd be funny/awkward if one of these prequel had reference to the prison Fiorina 161 but by Blomkamp's movie it doesn't take Alien 3 in canon.   :P

Yeah, there's some definite links to Aliens in that Spaihts' script. You've got the whole terraforming angle being the main motivation for the trip and there's a slight kind of nod in that the pyramids are acting as atmospheric processors, kind of evoking that design of the AP from Aliens too. To be honest, how much of that was Spaihts or Ridley, I don't know.

Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 15, 2016, 09:48:14 PM
That helmet looks like one of Moebius' designs.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/15062016_01.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClA5pTOVEAAps2C.jpg)

I have no issue with this. We saw it with Prometheus too - Scott is going back to old designs from Alien that he didn't get to use. Here's hoping for a proper egg silo.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 16, 2016, 07:30:50 AM
I have no issue with this. We saw it with Prometheus too - Scott is going back to old designs from Alien that he didn't get to use. Here's hoping for a proper egg silo.

I really like Moebius' work as well. Blade Runner is another good example of a film that was very heavily inspired by Moebius even though he didn't work on it.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2016, 03:31:14 PM

Quote from: tmjhur on Jun 15, 2016, 03:29:10 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2016, 03:08:05 PM
I'd be surprised if he didn't come along with the Covenant. I don't really see David (nearly typed Michael here) creating copies of himself. I think it'd be more in line for the new David to just be attached to this colony crew. He's probably pretty reliable but maybe starting to be out-dated.

And his replacement version worked out real well right!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd1w7nqlfxfj094.cloudfront.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F10%2Fash-ripley-magazine-alien-620x310.jpg&hash=6a168c3d00d49f5c846e9cd7009ff32e44cd6879)

The A-2s always were a bit twitchy.  :laugh: To be fair, we don't really know how stable David was.

Im not sure where Im getting this idea from, but isn't DAVID 8, essentially supposed to be the first model android that can rightfully integrate with humans? I sort have got it in my head watching Prometheus that there aren't many other models of Androids out there, functioning in a crew, as David is.
Isn't David 8 supposed to be the first model android to be used the way we are used to seeing them be used throughout the series?
Because that's how I was taking it. Curious if anybody else was also seeing it this way.

He plays a human, because he wears a t-shirt none of the robots ever had a t-shirt on.
Human Fassbender confirmed, prove me wrong :D

I wasn't impressed by Prometheus like many others, and I really hope Alien Covenant is every Prometheus should of been and more!

Quote from: CainsSon on Jun 16, 2016, 04:32:17 PM
Im not sure where Im getting this idea from, but isn't DAVID 8, essentially supposed to be the first model android that can rightfully integrate with humans? I sort have got it in my head watching Prometheus that there aren't many other models of Androids out there, functioning in a crew, as David is.
Isn't David 8 supposed to be the first model android to be used the way we are used to seeing them be used throughout the series?
Because that's how I was taking it. Curious if anybody else was also seeing it this way.

Oh, certainly; The David8 commercial says it all. "What is it about robots that makes them so robotic?" but changing all that is... David!  :)

two Fassy? this movie has better chances indeed so

Two fassies are better than one.

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Jun 16, 2016, 09:44:59 PM

Quote from: CainsSon on Jun 16, 2016, 04:32:17 PM
Im not sure where Im getting this idea from, but isn't DAVID 8, essentially supposed to be the first model android that can rightfully integrate with humans? I sort have got it in my head watching Prometheus that there aren't many other models of Androids out there, functioning in a crew, as David is.
Isn't David 8 supposed to be the first model android to be used the way we are used to seeing them be used throughout the series?
Because that's how I was taking it. Curious if anybody else was also seeing it this way.

Oh, certainly; The David8 commercial says it all. "What is it about robots that makes them so robotic?" but changing all that is... David!  :)

I think the only real source for that kind of info is from the advertising stuff. The DVD mentioned it being SOP to send David 8s out with crews too. I don't think anything in the movie really alludes to anything specific either way.

Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 15, 2016, 09:48:14 PM
That helmet looks like one of Moebius' designs.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/15062016_01.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClA5pTOVEAAps2C.jpg)

Also I knew I had seen it somewhere else but couldn't quite put my finger on it:
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Shout out to Uncanny Valley peep!

The design of the helmets in Alien: Isolation are exactly the same as the ones in the Alien film though. It's just the colour that's the same as the one in the new Ridley pic.

The new helmet harkens back much closer to Moebius' more geometric original design.

Quote from: motherfather on Jun 16, 2016, 06:26:59 AM
I haven't rewatched Prometheus for a while now, so I'm a little hazy. But wasn't David always slinking off to receive "orders" from the sleeping/dreaming Weyland for most of the movie?

When Weyland dies, presumably David is no longer "owned" by his primary user Weyland. Whether or not that means David is then even more/less of a loose cannon who knows.

His gesture towards Shaw (seemingly helpful) to find a spare ship - thats the first time we see David without Weyland's influence, right?

He's dependent on Shaw to get somewhere he can repair himself and that won't be earth, Bishop in Alien said he could never become the same again..so David needs to go somewhere with superior technology, he just needs Shaw to get to a ship, after that probably to help him move around too?

They need a (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesba.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F01%2Fcart.png&hash=8feca9732a73d6285824e5f66fb2bf887e3604f3)
for David to lie in while Shaw drives him around, lol
once they get to planet-Paradise, he'll give her errands to fetch stuff for him once they have found the main laboratory until he can create a new body, by then Shaw would have grown tired of it, so she splits n goes all Tombraider looking for temples n shit

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Poor poor David, all alone now, nobody to watch a re-run of Lawrence of Arabia with...so he makes a phone-call back to earth "hey gais, want to watch a great movie? I got loads of chips! and btw, I found this planet with humanoids that created us for some reason, m'kay?"
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Quote from: szkoki on Jun 16, 2016, 10:53:28 PM
two Fassy? this movie has better chances indeed so

That can prob only mean they need to be different somehow so not to be confusing, so David new body confirmed!?

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Look in the background of that pic...the third person there looks like Noomi Rapace maybe that's why its blurred to keep her appearance a surprise.

Noomi Rapace and her character Elizabeth Shaw will appear!!!
Thats for sure! But dont forget that this new series of movies (from Covenant) will not have main character;
Ridley said that his main character will be story itself!

Of course main characters aside from the story will be David, his twin brother
and Daniels.

We ll  not get all the answers, and this movie will keep
all the mystery that previous ones very well set. We ll find out
who created Xenos, but the answer could be all the more mysterious and shocking!

Quote from: Himmelblau on Jun 17, 2016, 05:33:31 PM
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Look in the background of that pic...the third person there looks like Noomi Rapace maybe that's why its blurred to keep her appearance a surprise.

Where ? WHERE ??

That could be anyone.

It's not her

I hope Noomi will be in the film, it could be a great teaser for the upcoming sequel.

She will be at least mentioned and she ll most probably appear at one point.
Thats the only normal way of storytelling. Even if she is dead, there could
be some logs or digital (holographic recordings) of her that could serve as fine
plot element.

If they do not mention her at all, well thats a sign of serious
problem with Ridley and his team of writers!

Quote from: Himmelblau on Jun 17, 2016, 05:33:31 PM
Look in the background of that pic...the third person there looks like Noomi Rapace maybe that's why its blurred to keep her appearance a surprise.

It's Carmen Ejogo.

He referred to the person behind her.
As you can, pretty clearly, see Carmen isnt blurred! :P

Quote from: Himmelblau on Jun 17, 2016, 05:33:31 PM
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Look in the background of that pic...the third person there looks like Noomi Rapace maybe that's why its blurred to keep her appearance a surprise.

It's blurred because that's a pretty big room and the camera's focused on Ridley. Depth of field.

Well of course, I either dont believe thats Noomi,
but I very much expect to see something related to her in Covenant!!!

P.S. I do not expect to see that Daniels is somehow connected with Ripley!
Thats stupid narrative idea.

It wouldn't surprise me if its her he likes to keep things secret.

Remember he did the same thing with the c-section scene where he filmed it secretly with just him and Rapace and didn't tell anyone not even the cast till way after filming was over. 8)

Yes, he likes to be secretive.
He did the same thing with the scene in which Kate Dickie/Ford inspects
Milburns mouth and then hammerpede bursts out.

Anyone heard the news that Noomie is reprising her role as Dr. Shaw

For sure... Here,  lookie!  Lookie! (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=54715.0)

...and yes.  Scott is a sly old Fox.  He will mess with your head.  Do you really think his statements about Blomkamp's 'ALIENS' movie should go unquestioned?   Have a good about everything he's said about that movie and have a good think about his handling of 'ALIEN: Covenant'.

-Windebieste.

Quote from: windebieste on Jun 21, 2016, 01:07:01 AM
For sure... Here,  lookie!  Lookie! (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=54715.0)

...and yes.  Scott is a sly old Fox.  He will mess with your head.  Do you really think his statements about Blomkamp's 'ALIENS' movie should go unquestioned?   Have a good about everything he's said about that movie and have a good think about his handling of 'ALIEN: Covenant'.

-Windebieste.

Where can I hear what he said about Blompkamp's film?

He said he was impressed by the script.  Scott Free was also interested in producing it.  For a movie that's currently not in production, anything said about it should be considered very carefully.

-Windebieste.

I wonder how much he does intentionally. Throwing us through the loops.

Which one?

Quote from: lv_226 on Jun 21, 2016, 06:39:36 PM
Which one?

Sorry?