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Quote from: Stolen on Apr 21, 2016, 06:46:53 PM
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Blomkamp's "Alien" Film: Update From Ripley Herself

QuoteWell, I *think* it is.  Ridley asked Neill NOT to make our Alien til after Prometheus 2.  He (Ridley) wanted his movie to shoot and be released first.  But it's an AMAZING script, and Neill and I are REALLY excited about doing it.  We're doing other things until we can get going on that.  I'd be really surprised if we DIDN'T do it, because it's such a great script, and we love working together.  So, it's just going to take a little bit longer to get out to you, but it'll be worth the wait.

If this is real, then its fantastic that the enthusiasm is still there and it is still happening.  We should post this in the Alien 5 news thread...

Sigourney Weaver updates on Blomkamp’s Alien 5! Speaking at an event hosted by virtualization software developer, VMware, Sigourney Weaver talked about her various movie roles and when asked about the state of Neill Blomkamp’s on-hold Alien 5 provided the following update:

“Well, I *think* it is.  Ridley asked Neill NOT to make our Alien til after Prometheus 2.  He (Ridley) wanted his movie to shoot and be released first.  But it's an AMAZING script, and Neill and I are REALLY excited about doing it.  We're doing other things until we can get going on that.  I'd be really surprised if we DIDN'T do it, because it's such a great script, and we love working together.  So, it's just going to take a little bit longer to get out to you, but it'll be worth the wait.”

The comments come via Aggressive Comix who also mentioned that “the audience reacted strongly” to the news. It is great to hear Sigourney’s enthusiasm for the script. Back in September of 2015, Ridley Scott also commented on Blomkamp’s script saying “we just have the first [screenplay] draft in so far but it looks pretty good.”

The last we heard of Blomkamp’s Alien sequel, it was on hold whilst Sir Ridley Scott worked on the Prometheus sequel, now titled Alien: Covenant. When speaking about Alien 5 previously, Ridley Scott had stated the intent to release Alien: Covenant first and then start work on Blomkamp’s sequel: "I'm producing it... The design is for it to go out next, after this. This will go out first. It's more associated with Ripley, it's a completely different angle, it's more of a sequel. I'm coming in from the back end."

Bloody Disgusting, who first broke the news of the possibility of the postponement of Alien 5, also reported that Alien 5 would likely be filming in 2017 for a 2018 release: “If all goes well, Blomkamp will likely shoot Alien 5 sometime in 2017, ahead of a release the following year. So that gives fans a one-two punch of Scott's Prometheus 2 in 2017 and Blomkamp's own Alien film in 2018.”

Thanks to Stolen for the news.

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Kinda a bummer, I was kinda hoping it was shelved.

I'm all for a Blomkamp Alien movie, just not on board with a retcon of half series. I don't like resurrection, but not enough to erase it from the series.

I had assumed the request to put it on hold came from Fox.

So Siggy's read the script and thinks it's great. Good to hear this is hopefully still a thing.

Fantastic news!  We get to have the best best of all worlds in this!

Wonder if this will finally put all those unfounded it-will-never-happen assumptions to rest. :)

Exactly what some of us had been suspecting, all along. RS just needs to focus on his own project before taking up producing duties on this.

Now cue all the Alien 3 fanboys and their incessant railing at Blomkamps "fan fiction".

Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 21, 2016, 07:57:49 PM
Wonder if this will finally put all those unfounded it-will-never-happen assumptions to rest. :)

She doesn't seem 100% sure of it herself.

I'm so excited about this its insane ;D  :o

I will still give it a shot.

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Yes, The Eighth Passenger, it is still fan fiction to me LOL ;D

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It's all ifs buts and maybes. By the time we find out whether Covenant was a success or not, these lot have will have long forgotten about it and moved onto other projects. Weaver's going to be pretty busy with all the Avatar sequels. I really don't think they'll get another chance now.

Good news!! Hope it does come into being. I honestly have low hopes for Covenant so I'm really hoping for this movie to happen.

Thank you Ms. Weaver.

While I still disagree with the need for Weaver to rally a continuation for the series its still good to hear that the project has not been completely lost to the four winds. I do share Darkness' worry though that by the time Covenant is done depending on its reception that the parties involved for this sequel will be too busy in their own projects just simply because they need to stay in active work.

Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 21, 2016, 08:02:27 PM

Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 21, 2016, 07:57:49 PM
Wonder if this will finally put all those unfounded it-will-never-happen assumptions to rest. :)

She doesn't seem 100% sure of it herself.

Yeah. It doesn't sound like a definite at the minute. I imagine it will come down to the success of Alien: Covenant. If it bombs I doubt we'll see this. Though that wont happen as Covenant will be good!

I'd like to think they may have worked the delays into consideration with their schedules though.

Hmm, I recall a number of occasions when actors compliment the script yet the movie turns out not so great,
hope this film doesn't turn out that way.

Ridley has said that if Alien Covenant does well he'll do two more movies, the Alien Prequel/Prometheus Quadrilogy, and after he'll Produce Neill's Aliens sequel. Question is how long will this be, is Scott going to get bored and move onto other movies for a number of years and eventually come back to the series when he feels like it.

One approach Fox & Ridley could take would be to do one long production back to back like The Lord of the Rings trilogy, Matrix 2 & 3, in doing that the movies we'll be out each year 2017, 2018, 2019, and lastly Neill's film for 2020. Though come to think of it that may not be entirely practical. Honestly I just want the one prequel that establishes how the Space Jockey crashed the derelict on LV-426, wonder if this multiple movie saga is really warranted. For that matter is Neill movie set to be a final instalment or is he too planing to make a multitude of sequels?

I still have very low expectations for Covenant. Everything we've been getting from Ridley feels like deja vu. Except we know it's going to be an actual alien (prequel?) movie. Just feels like were going to end up with another Dawn of Justice after Man of Steel, still scratching our heads asking why? Then getting George Miller to do the rest omg! Imagine!? Anyway with this news, idk, i've been wondering, since theres time and since its an Aliens movie, why doesn't someone petition for James Cameron to helm the directors chair? Or also co produce? Then again, he loved Terminator Genesys so...he'll probably be on board! ;D

I would love to see Blomkamp make an 'ALIENS' movie.

What I don't want to see is aged actors shoe horned into a script that's tailor made to accommodate them so they can reprise roles they haven't played for decades. 

Hopefully Weaver's role in all this will be in the capacity of a Producer rather than as Actor. 

A new 'ALIENS' movie for the 21st Century with a fresh story, engaging new characters toting pulse rifles with Xenos dropping on them from the ceiling will rock everyone's boat!

Give me THAT movie, please.

-Windebieste.

Quote from: windebieste on Apr 21, 2016, 10:42:26 PM
I would love to see Blomkamp make an 'ALIENS' movie.

What I don't want to see is aged actors shoe horned into a script that's tailor made to accommodate them so they can reprise roles they haven't played for decades. 

Hopefully Weaver's role in all this will be in the capacity of a Producer rather than as Actor. 

A new 'ALIENS' movie for the 21st Century with a fresh story, engaging new characters toting pulse rifles with Xenos dropping on them from the ceiling will rock everyone's boat!

Give me THAT movie, please.

-Windebieste.

Yes PLEASE.

I don't mind Alien 5, nor Neil directing it, but is Ripley seriously needed? Alien as a franchise is like that kid that's overly dependant on his/her mother. I'd love to see new and interesting character to expand the lore.

Why not another female lead? Ripley isn't the only female badass in this universe.  :P

Quote from: The Alien Predator on Apr 21, 2016, 11:04:20 PM

Quote from: windebieste on Apr 21, 2016, 10:42:26 PM
I would love to see Blomkamp make an 'ALIENS' movie.

What I don't want to see is aged actors shoe horned into a script that's tailor made to accommodate them so they can reprise roles they haven't played for decades. 

Hopefully Weaver's role in all this will be in the capacity of a Producer rather than as Actor. 

A new 'ALIENS' movie for the 21st Century with a fresh story, engaging new characters toting pulse rifles with Xenos dropping on them from the ceiling will rock everyone's boat!

Give me THAT movie, please.

-Windebieste.

Yes PLEASE.

I don't mind Alien 5, nor Neil directing it, but is Ripley seriously needed? Alien as a franchise is like that kid that's overly dependant on his/her mother. I'd love to see new and interesting character to expand the lore.

Why not another female lead? Ripley isn't the only female badass in this universe.  :P

You're already getting what you want.  It looks like there will be 3 or 4 more Alien films without Ripley.  The idea that we're not getting strong female leads is a little absurd don't you think?  Every Alien related film had a strong female lead.  Why not let Ripley have at least that 1 film?

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 21, 2016, 11:13:53 PM

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Quote from: windebieste on Apr 21, 2016, 10:42:26 PM
I would love to see Blomkamp make an 'ALIENS' movie.

What I don't want to see is aged actors shoe horned into a script that's tailor made to accommodate them so they can reprise roles they haven't played for decades. 

Hopefully Weaver's role in all this will be in the capacity of a Producer rather than as Actor. 

A new 'ALIENS' movie for the 21st Century with a fresh story, engaging new characters toting pulse rifles with Xenos dropping on them from the ceiling will rock everyone's boat!

Give me THAT movie, please.

-Windebieste.

Yes PLEASE.

I don't mind Alien 5, nor Neil directing it, but is Ripley seriously needed? Alien as a franchise is like that kid that's overly dependant on his/her mother. I'd love to see new and interesting character to expand the lore.

Why not another female lead? Ripley isn't the only female badass in this universe.  :P

You're already getting what you want.  It looks like there will be 3 or 4 more Alien films without Ripley.  The idea that we're not getting strong female leads is a little absurd don't you think?  Every Alien related film had a strong female lead.  Why not let Ripley have at least that 1 film?

I just don't see the point of her inclusion personally but that's just me. I agree with Winde regarding this.

I'd rather like to see Ripley 8's story be continued. She was an interesting character.

Edit: Sorry if this is getting off topic. Maybe there should be a separate thread to discuss this. I remember last time how divisive people got over this on another thread.

Quote from: windebieste on Apr 21, 2016, 10:42:26 PM
I would love to see Blomkamp make an 'ALIENS' movie.

What I don't want to see is aged actors shoe horned into a script that's tailor made to accommodate them so they can reprise roles they haven't played for decades. 

Hopefully Weaver's role in all this will be in the capacity of a Producer rather than as Actor. 

A new 'ALIENS' movie for the 21st Century with a fresh story, engaging new characters toting pulse rifles with Xenos dropping on them from the ceiling will rock everyone's boat!

Give me THAT movie, please.

-Windebieste.

Totally agree with this

I would say the divisive nature is inevitable, and that is ok.  We're fans and we're passionate.  It's normal.  I'm not an admin here, but I would think that pro or con statements about this issue would make as much sense here as anywhere else, so why not?

I think that the idea of having another film with Ripley is great.  As an actress, she was at the core of the series and she deserves another shot.  The statements that many fans make that she is not needed for the series are fair, but another film with Sigourney Weaver while we still have her will be appreciated for generations to come.  If the opportunity is missed now, it will soon be too late.  We're all getting older.  Sure Ripley 8 would be interesting, but I think the masses found that relationship between Ripley and Newt and Hicks to be the most compelling.  It's the film that many of us are dying to see, whereas nobody is really dying to see a Ripley 8 film.  IMHO anyways..

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 21, 2016, 11:49:48 PM
I would say the divisive nature is inevitable, and that is ok.  We're fans and we're passionate.  It's normal.  I'm not an admin here, but I would think that pro or con statements about this issue would make as much sense here as anywhere else, so why not?

I think that the idea of having another film with Ripley is great.  As an actress, she was at the core of the series and she deserves another shot.  The statements that many fans make that she is not needed for the series are fair, but another film with Sigourney Weaver while we still have her will be appreciated for generations to come.  If the opportunity is missed now, it will soon be too late.  We're all getting older.  Sure Ripley 8 would be interesting, but I think the masses found that relationship between Ripley and Newt and Hicks to be the most compelling.  It's the film that many of us are dying to see, whereas nobody is really dying to see a Ripley 8 film.  IMHO anyways..

Well I disagree all around. The intention is to keep the series going and always was. I have very strong feelings about ending a series on a part 4 and I think the only thing worse than retconning entire entries is recasting leads. There are like 3 more Prometheus-Alien coming and thats exciting. The Ripley story should be wrapped up in the sequence we already have and then they should follow that with a new trilogy, which they already intend to do... After ripleys story they should begin a tv series.

Well the one bit of good news we can take from this is that at least Sigourney Weaver is still into making this happen and I think that makes a big difference. If it happens or not or if the script really any good is another matter.

Well this is exciting news to say the least! Personally more excited for this than Covenant.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 21, 2016, 07:40:18 PM
If all goes well, Blomkamp will likely shoot Alien 5 sometime in 2017, ahead of a release the following year. So that gives fans a one-two punch of Scott's Prometheus 2 in 2017 and Blomkamp's own Alien film in 2018.

I've always maintained that the Alien franchise is FOX's best answer to Disney's Star Wars franchise.  It has a well-established fan base and there is a lot of potential to expand storylines with prequels and sequels.  A fresh Alien film every year mimics what Star Wars is doing right now and if Deadpool proved anything, it's that you can still make a blockbuster that's rated 'R' if you combine the right elements.  I think the Alien franchise can potentially have the same success if treated appropriately. 

Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Apr 21, 2016, 10:12:26 PM
Honestly I just want the one prequel that establishes how the Space Jockey crashed the derelict on LV-426, wonder if this multiple movie saga is really warranted. For that matter is Neill movie set to be a final instalment or is he too planing to make a multitude of sequels?

There was a Screenrant interview where he said he would like to do two more sequels to the upcoming Alien 5.

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Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Apr 21, 2016, 10:12:26 PM
Honestly I just want the one prequel that establishes how the Space Jockey crashed the derelict on LV-426, wonder if this multiple movie saga is really warranted. For that matter is Neill movie set to be a final instalment or is he too planing to make a multitude of sequels?

There was a Screenrant interview where he said he would like to do two more sequels to the upcoming Alien 5.

So once Covenant is done, there could literally be two concurrent Alien series going on.  Just like Star Wars.  That would be perfect.  (If they're any good.)

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 21, 2016, 08:56:14 PM

Yeah. It doesn't sound like a definite at the minute. I imagine it will come down to the success of Alien: Covenant. If it bombs I doubt we'll see this. Thought that wont happen as Covenant will be good!

I'd like to think they may have worked the delays into consideration with their schedules though.

I don't think a Ridley Scott movie has ever bombed financially besides Legend? Covenant will make money and probably enough for Fox to continue with A5.

For what it's worth. I have quite a bit of faith in Alien: Covenant, Alien 5 and even The Predator

Quote from: windebieste on Apr 21, 2016, 10:42:26 PM
I would love to see Blomkamp make an 'ALIENS' movie.

What I don't want to see is aged actors shoe horned into a script that's tailor made to accommodate them so they can reprise roles they haven't played for decades. 

Hopefully Weaver's role in all this will be in the capacity of a Producer rather than as Actor. 

A new 'ALIENS' movie for the 21st Century with a fresh story, engaging new characters toting pulse rifles with Xenos dropping on them from the ceiling will rock everyone's boat!

Give me THAT movie, please.

-Windebieste.

Once again, I agree with Windebieste!

Quote from: Ash 937 on Apr 22, 2016, 03:50:45 AM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 21, 2016, 07:40:18 PM
If all goes well, Blomkamp will likely shoot Alien 5 sometime in 2017, ahead of a release the following year. So that gives fans a one-two punch of Scott's Prometheus 2 in 2017 and Blomkamp's own Alien film in 2018.

I've always maintained that the Alien franchise is FOX's best answer to Disney's Star Wars franchise.  It has a well-established fan base and there is a lot of potential to expand storylines with prequels and sequels.  A fresh Alien film every year mimics what Star Wars is doing right now and if Deadpool proved anything, it's that you can still make a blockbuster that's rated 'R' if you combine the right elements.  I think the Alien franchise can potentially have the same success if treated appropriately. 

Oh without a doubt. Just look at the Budget to Box Office ratio on ALIEN and ALIENS. Compare that to Deadpool (which I was QUITE fond of).

ALIEN's ratio is even better than Deadpool's.

I really do hope Covenant surprises me & blows me away. I just don't have super high hope just yet after Prometheus. The Martian was a beautifully shot movie as well but fell apart for me about the time duct tape was used to fix everything so I lost a little faith in him again from that. That being said, I still hope he proves me wrong & does something very exceptional the series desperately needs it.

Quote from: XenoZipper on Apr 22, 2016, 06:57:29 AM
I really do hope Covenant surprises me & blows me away. I just don't have super high hope just yet after Prometheus. The Martian was a beautifully shot movie as well but fell apart for me about the time duct tape was used to fix everything so I lost a little faith in him again from that. That being said, I still hope he proves me wrong & does something very exceptional the series desperately needs it.

I feel this way as well. Prometheus left me with that "what could have been" feeling and The Martian became too silly by the end of it. I do think Ridley Scott has lost his touch over time, but there are still hints of genius at varying times. I'd just love to see Covenant absolutely kick everyone in the balls and nail it though.

Quote from: PsyKore on Apr 22, 2016, 07:12:37 AM
I feel this way as well. Prometheus left me with that "what could have been" feeling and The Martian became too silly by the end of it. I do think Ridley Scott has lost his touch over time, but there are still hints of genius at varying times. I'd just love to see Covenant absolutely kick everyone in the balls and nail it though.

That's exactly it. I really enjoyed The Martian at the beginning but by the time duct tape came into play I was just clock watching until it was over & then the silly "this is my moment to be Iron Man" at the end. At first I thought the science behind the movie was very interesting but then it turned into a Red Green Show thing with duct tape fixes everything haha I agree he's lost touch but still has his moments. Just needs the right crew behind him to keep things solid the whole way through. Hopefully he has that crew for Covenant right now, I'd gladly take that swift kick to the balls haha

Quote from: windebieste on Apr 21, 2016, 10:42:26 PMI would love to see Blomkamp make an 'ALIENS' movie.

What I don't want to see is aged actors shoe horned into a script that's tailor made to accommodate them so they can reprise roles they haven't played for decades. 

Hopefully Weaver's role in all this will be in the capacity of a Producer rather than as Actor. 

A new 'ALIENS' movie for the 21st Century with a fresh story, engaging new characters toting pulse rifles with Xenos dropping on them from the ceiling will rock everyone's boat!

Give me THAT movie, please.

-Windebieste.

Yep.

Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 22, 2016, 06:42:26 AMOh without a doubt. Just look at the Budget to Box Office ratio on ALIEN and ALIENS. Compare that to Deadpool (which I was QUITE fond of).

ALIEN's ratio is even better than Deadpool's.

That's a slightly pointless comparison. Deadpool was made 30 years later, and released into a totally different market. There's nothing to say how Alien or Aliens would do if they only just came out now.

Quote from: XenoZipper on Apr 22, 2016, 06:57:29 AM
I really do hope Covenant surprises me & blows me away. I just don't have super high hope just yet after Prometheus. The Martian was a beautifully shot movie as well but fell apart for me about the time duct tape was used to fix everything so I lost a little faith in him again from that. That being said, I still hope he proves me wrong & does something very exceptional the series desperately needs it.

As I understand it that's an actual thing at NASA...using duct-tape to fix stuff like that. It was all in the book as well. Personally I loved The Martian. The book and the film are simply gold in my eyes. The most entertaining and refreshing sci-fi for ages.

They used duct tape to fix stuff on Apollo 13, and that worked out pretty well.

Duct tape is the single most useful 'all in one repair' kit you can every hope to use. 



Well, that, and a towel of course.

-Windebieste.

Not interested in Prometheus 2 (because that is exactly what "ALIEN" Convent is). Ridley Scott initially said we wouldn't
- see the Xenomorph ever again. Then it was
- We won't see the Xenomorph for another 3 movies

Now the Xeno is returning in Prometheus 2? This is surely Fox Studios decision.

Personally I had 100% faith in Blomkamp to do the ALIEN series justice. I jumped out of my chair when I heard we'd see M-41 Pulse Rifles, Ripley, Hicks and an ALIEN queen in a future setting.

His work on District 9 and the production design of Elysium (give or take the latter being over-rated and derivative) I was creaming myself.

Personally I want ALIENS 2 and AVP3 both set in the future. I'll be a happy bunny.

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 22, 2016, 04:31:13 AM

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Apr 22, 2016, 04:27:43 AM

Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Apr 21, 2016, 10:12:26 PM
Honestly I just want the one prequel that establishes how the Space Jockey crashed the derelict on LV-426, wonder if this multiple movie saga is really warranted. For that matter is Neill movie set to be a final instalment or is he too planing to make a multitude of sequels?

There was a Screenrant interview where he said he would like to do two more sequels to the upcoming Alien 5.

So once Covenant is done, there could literally be two concurrent Alien series going on.  Just like Star Wars.  That would be perfect.  (If they're any good.)

So would Blomkamp's series have an alternative title if Ridley is straight up using Alien now? How would they differenciate the two series in marketing? 

Alien Reborn: Part 1 - Ripley's Return.

She wish... yeah right  ::)

Haha... she wish... sure  ::)

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2016, 08:40:09 AM

Quote from: XenoZipper on Apr 22, 2016, 06:57:29 AM
I really do hope Covenant surprises me & blows me away. I just don't have super high hope just yet after Prometheus. The Martian was a beautifully shot movie as well but fell apart for me about the time duct tape was used to fix everything so I lost a little faith in him again from that. That being said, I still hope he proves me wrong & does something very exceptional the series desperately needs it.

As I understand it that's an actual thing at NASA...using duct-tape to fix stuff like that. It was all in the book as well. Personally I loved The Martian. The book and the film are simply gold in my eyes. The most entertaining and refreshing sci-fi for ages.

Fair enough there. I will admit when I'm proved wrong on something if it's an actual thing and really works. I never knew that so the idea came off extremely silly to me. Like I said, I highly enjoyed the movie up to that point. The garden was probably some of my favorite stuff in the movie to see how he was doing it & the science behind it. The movie as a whole is still a beautifully shot movie. Maybe it's the Canadian in me that just gets annoyed at duct tape because it's so often related to the Red Green Show here which gets annoying fast haha I still hope for the best on Covenant though, it needs to be awesome or it could jeopardize the future of the films if there will be any if it flops which I don't want to see happen at all. This series means to much to me.

Quote from: XenoZipper on Apr 22, 2016, 02:16:56 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2016, 08:40:09 AM

Quote from: XenoZipper on Apr 22, 2016, 06:57:29 AM
I really do hope Covenant surprises me & blows me away. I just don't have super high hope just yet after Prometheus. The Martian was a beautifully shot movie as well but fell apart for me about the time duct tape was used to fix everything so I lost a little faith in him again from that. That being said, I still hope he proves me wrong & does something very exceptional the series desperately needs it.

As I understand it that's an actual thing at NASA...using duct-tape to fix stuff like that. It was all in the book as well. Personally I loved The Martian. The book and the film are simply gold in my eyes. The most entertaining and refreshing sci-fi for ages.

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I know what you mean about the Red Green Show.  I never got the appeal.  I think it's somebody's boondoggle.  (I'm Canadian too)

Hope you have a new appreciation for the Martian.  Duck it!

The Derelict from Alien already has an explanation for being there. If you've seen Prometheus you should already have figured out.

Yea me either on the Red/Green Show Perfect-Organism, I just never understood the like behind the show & just made us Canadians look like typical lumberjack type people. I'm not even an out doorsy person unless I'm going outside for a smoke haha I'd rather stay in & watch movies & shows. It's all I do really. Where about in Canada you from? I'm in British Columbia ,originally come from Vancouver but now live in a smaller town near Prince George. And yeA I can appreciate the Martian more :P I'd have to re-watch again. Only watched it the one time

Quote from: XenoZipper on Apr 22, 2016, 02:37:43 PM
Yea me either on the Red/Green Show Perfect-Organism, I just never understood the like behind the show & just made us Canadians look like typical lumberjack type people. I'm not even an out doorsy person unless I'm going outside for a smoke haha I'd rather stay in & watch movies & shows. It's all I do really. Where about in Canada you from? I'm in British Columbia ,originally come from Vancouver but now live in a smaller town near Prince George. And yeA I can appreciate the Martian more :P I'd have to re-watch again. Only watched it the one time

I'm a Toronto guy, but I definitely have an outdoorsy bent.  But I still just don't get the humour.  The guy is not funny.  Trailer Park Boys is similar but with a lot more edge, but it has the one thing that Red Green doesn't.  Good humour and self-awareness.  I can't imagine how much of our tax money must have gone to Red Green.  Because you know that show would not have survived on its own.

And to bring things full circle, I can't wait to see Ripley duct taping some fresh new guns together to take out some of Ripley's bad guys!

Remember when James  Cameron was hotting up T5(I wonder how much weaver is getting payed)

Haha! Nice one on Ripley duct taping some new guns together :p
Always wanted to check out Toronto. I'm a city guy all the way so I'd feel comfortable walking around downtown there for sure. Too many cool stores though I bet that would break my wallet fast for collecting. Vancouver was the same & got too expensive to live there. Trailer Park Boys was another show that at first I really hated but then I warmed up to it after a while & now enjoy it. Red Green on the other hand I will never warm up to unless he's wrapped in duct tape & set ablaze to keep me warm haha

Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 22, 2016, 06:42:26 AM
I don't think a Ridley Scott movie has ever bombed financially besides Legend?

Blade Runner, Someone to Watch Over Me, 1492: Conquest of Paradise, White Squall...

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2016, 08:40:09 AM

Quote from: XenoZipper on Apr 22, 2016, 06:57:29 AM
I really do hope Covenant surprises me & blows me away. I just don't have super high hope just yet after Prometheus. The Martian was a beautifully shot movie as well but fell apart for me about the time duct tape was used to fix everything so I lost a little faith in him again from that. That being said, I still hope he proves me wrong & does something very exceptional the series desperately needs it.

As I understand it that's an actual thing at NASA...using duct-tape to fix stuff like that. It was all in the book as well. Personally I loved The Martian. The book and the film are simply gold in my eyes. The most entertaining and refreshing sci-fi for ages.

Indeed, the duct-tape was realistic and plausible, just don't tell him that 200 km/h winds would barely be a light breeze on Mars.  ;)

I remember Weaver being very passionate about Resurrection too, so i'm wary. I felt her story and character should have been finished after alien3. I love Ripley and the original 3 movies are really her story as much as it is the aliens. But since alien3 I just dont understand this constant need to keep reviving her character at the expense of the universe that has been created. They could have literally done anything after 3, the world that had been created in the first three movies had a lot of room for new Alien and encounters and new characters.

Quote from: 420Buddy on Apr 22, 2016, 03:49:54 PM
I remember Weaver being very passionate about Resurrection too, so i'm wary. I felt her story and character should have been finished after alien3. I love Ripley and the original 3 movies are really her story as much as it is the aliens. But since alien3 I just dont understand this constant need to keep reviving her character at the expense of the universe that has been created. They could have literally done anything after 3, the world that had been created in the first three movies had a lot of room for new Alien and encounters and new characters.

Good point. I loved Resurrection but it does seem to be almost universally hated despite having our holy precious Ripley in it.

People tend to forget that just because a classic main character will feature doesn't automatically mean this will be a great film. Best to wait and see rather than let hype give us impossible standards.

I still think it's pointless and there should be a new lead.

Technically, her story DID end in A:3. A;R started a new one with her clone. If we must have Weaver back, at least continue the clone's story as I think there's lots of interesting things to explore in the late 24th century personally.

I love Sigourney, but i think she just wants to regain popularity as Arnold or Stallone. So she has every reason to be hoped that the film is happens, regardless of the quality of the script.

I hope it doesn't delete the 3 and the 4. If this is a sequel of Resurrection, why not?
It's interesting to see a new director deliver his vision. But honestly I'm not a fan of Blomkamp. District 9 is interesting but poorly executed. Elysium is C movie. Chappie is original and has style, but I found it horrible.

But it's normal that project happens after Covenant. Scott is working on Prometheus 2 since much longer, and my faith, there is the creator of the franchise, so it's legitimate. No matter what you think of Prometheus.

Maybe it will be a film that "deletes itself"?  I mean it could be done as an alternate story, while keeping the main story in tact.  So essentially it could be a "what if?" type of story that has no bearing on the original series.  Then the original series could continue.  Unless of course if Blomkamp does something so amazing that the fans want more of that, who would argue with continuing the Blomkamp tangent at that point?

Why not .It would have been better 15 years ago.
The only thing that bothers me is wanting to make a new ending for Ripley.
The death of Ripley is perfect in the film Fincher. What despair in tone, I love it.

And Sigourney is old, always a great actress. If it's an alternative history, we must focus exclusively on Newt.

How will they justify that they are 30 years olders ?

In Aliens, she slept for 57 years but it didn't have any consequence as she was in cryosleep. After Aliens they were in cryosleep too, so why would they age this time ?

bibou<<<

Maybe she hasn't slept all this time. She successfully returned to Earth and lived all this time.  As a result: normal old-age.

Yeah I see what you mean. But that would be dumb too (no offense). 57 years between Alien and Aliens, then 30 years between Aliens and Alien 2.5.

The whole concept disturbs me.

I think it would work very well.  Basically Ripley finds 30 years of peace after the second film until the Aliens are discovered again elsewhere.  So Hicks calls her up and asks if she's still having nightmares.  Ripley, responds with, just tell me one thing Hicks, you;re going out there to destroy them, not study them, not to bring back.  Hicks replies, that's the plan you have my word on it.  I'd like to keep you handy, for close encounters.  Ripley says, alright I'm in.  Off we go.  And they go to this planet where they discover... David..

>Perfect-Organism

Ahaha you're a genius !  ;D

I can't wait for this! Awesome news!!

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 22, 2016, 07:52:22 PM
I think it would work very well.  Basically Ripley finds 30 years of peace after the second film until the Aliens are discovered again elsewhere.  So Hicks calls her up and asks if she's still having nightmares.  Ripley, responds with, just tell me one thing Hicks, you;re going out there to destroy them, not study them, not to bring back.  Hicks replies, that's the plan you have my word on it.  I'd like to keep you handy, for close encounters.  Ripley says, alright I'm in.  Off we go.  And they go to this planet where they discover... David..

Precisely, a Ripley who actually has a real life to lose is a new dimension on the character. 30 years of living without the constant threat of the Alien could bring all manner of new aspects of the character to the fore. Ripley is a fascinating, near unique character and Weaver is a wonderful actress when she's fully engaged, why shouldn't she get another swing at it? Also, what is it with the 21st century worrying that actors are too old? Would they sooner Quint have been a thirty year old in Jaws? Age does not automatically equal obsolescence. Not everyone in the Alien universe need be judged by standards of military physique and such.

If FOX was wise, they would venture into more animation and short films in both the Alien and Predator universe. The events of Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 should be used as reference points to where the new stories would take place timeline wise, but I find we need move away from Ripley.

Would using other characters during similar time periods disrespect the story of Ripley? Absolutely not. That was her story. Time for other tales to be told.

Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Apr 23, 2016, 12:35:50 AM
If FOX was wise, they would venture into more animation and short films in both the Alien and Predator universe. The events of Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 should be used as reference points to where the new stories would take place timeline wise, but I find we need move away from Ripley.

Would using other characters during similar time periods disrespect the story of Ripley? Absolutely not. That was her story. Time for other tales to be told.

^ This.

It's a rich world filled with all manner of characters just waiting to have close encounters. Why limit to one whose story was finished in Alien 3?

At least the movie is not dead for good. I hope we get our new Alien sequel after AC. We probably won't see it until at least 2020 - 2022.

I think she's holding the series back and they need to move away from her big time. The series isn't called Ripley after all. Briggs's AvP, a second draft or something, I think would be miles better and is what we should have got, but that will never happen. Blomkamp recycles the same ideas in all his movies and District 9 was the only movie I liked. I don't think he should be involved and will probably hurt the series even more.

She is holding the series back.  Last time I looked this series was called:


-Windebieste.

YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is SUCH great news!  This movie is what i'm personally REALLY exited for, way more than Alien: Covenant. SO happy to hear that it looks like this movie is definitely being made for sure! I'm willing to wait! I was very bummed out when I heard it might not be made pending 'Prometheus 2'.  This is awesome! 

Meh, not really that excited for this, Blomkamp has made one good movie, and I love Alien 3...             Covenant will have two Davids and Demian Bichir, not to mention a larger canvas to work with.

Quote from: windebieste on Apr 23, 2016, 03:49:17 AM
She is holding the series back.  Last time I looked this series was called:

A  L  I  E  N

and not:

E  L  L  E  N

-Windebieste.

I would love to watch E L L E N. Even sounds like Alien. EL-LE-N

They might as well just go whole hog and retcon in the crew of the Nostromo, Jones, and all of the colonial marines. The whole movie can be a two hour love-fest, with all of our beloved heroes marching across the landscape and gleefully shooting down aliens like bowling pins.

Quote from: whiterabbit on Apr 23, 2016, 10:59:59 AM

Quote from: windebieste on Apr 23, 2016, 03:49:17 AM
She is holding the series back.  Last time I looked this series was called:

A  L  I  E  N

and not:

E  L  L  E  N

-Windebieste.

I would love to watch E L L E N. Even sounds like Alien. EL-LE-N

OMG!  E L L E N is a brilliant idea!  Especially if you do it in the Alien or Aliens font, that could really work well.  There was a thread which focused on possible titles for Blomkamp's film.  Windebieste would you mind if I posted your suggestion in there?  Full credit to you of course, but I want to put together the graphic look.  The idea is spot on.

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 23, 2016, 02:39:18 PM

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Apr 23, 2016, 02:32:21 PM
They might as well just go whole hog and retcon in the crew of the Nostromo, Jones, and all of the colonial marines. The whole movie can be a two hour love-fest, with all of our beloved heroes marching across the landscape and gleefully shooting down aliens like bowling pins.

No, the vast majority of people love those films. They were iconic.

That was all sarcasm, indicating my displeasure at the ridiculous fan-service that is the Alien3 retcon.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2016, 08:41:57 AM
I can't recall if this came up before or not but at London Film and Comic Con, Carrie Henn told Ross Poulter, one of the admins at the WY Bulletin, that she would be in Alien 5.

QuoteCarrie Henn told Ross, that she would appear in the film via a video call that Ripley makes. She wouldn't be fully in the film.

Hold on a second, wasn't this film supposed to be a "passing of the torch" to Newt? And wouldn't Newt by necessity have been recast for a professional actress to play? Or was it just Michael Biehn's speculations?

If you really want to watch ELLEN, she's got a show on television ;)

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Also, why give us the Weyland Yutani Report, which further legitimises 3 and Resurrection, if Alienkamp is supposed to wipe those movies away? Especially since it was announced, after Alienkamp was announced, that there were no plans for a mainstream version, then Alienkamp goes on indefinite hold, and we get a mainstream version anyway? Nah, i think sigy's in a state of denial at this point. By the way, how would you guys line up your Alien movies, including Prometheus, once Covenant is set to own? I'm having trouble figuring that out myself. If only Alien 3 didn't have the 3 in the title...

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 23, 2016, 03:08:13 PM
Looks like this news got a lot of traction

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Alien-5-Worth-Wait-According-Sigourney-Weaver-126577.html

"According to Sigourney Weaver".

Sorry, but we the audience, will be the judges of that if it actually comes out if it was worth it. Since we're the ones paying to go see this.

All this stuff has inspired me to try and submit my own fanfiction to Fox, they might actually like it and it could get green lit. You never know! If a fan can do it, why can't the other fans? You lot should give it a shot. You never know... you might just be the next director of Alien VI.

 If only Alien 3 didn't have the 3 in the title... <<<

If you look at the logo alien 3, you can see that 3 - is not a number, but degree. So, that's all right - we still don't have the third part of alien saga. xD

The game at this point is to EXPAND the Universe and Cross-pollinate like MARVEL.

Everyone complains about RIPLEY's inclusion because they want an Alien story that goes elsewhere, but we HAVE THAT. We have confirmation of 3 more movies of that. So why be excited about this then? I think its because we all know Ripley just adds something to the series and that's why Blomkamp's film is exciting.

I also hope they fix the A3 and AR mess, by making the Ripley in 3 or THIS ONE a clone as well.

Like it opens with some shady Company people who have been covering shit up all along, boarding the SULACO after Aliens but she has already been facehugged, so they clone her, and keep the real Ripley in stasis, rather than risk losing the Queen inside her. Only something goes wrong and that causes the fire? Or maybe the military boards, and demands answers so the shady types start some shit and start the fire so the military stops asking questions and they have their specimens.

I dunno. It's forced as all hell but so is the beginning of A3 so they could potentially fix that.

At the end of the day, FOX wants it all to connect. Alien, Predator, AVP and the Mythology of Prometheus. Maybe even Avatar (god help us).

CainsSon, official canon for this series is listed in the Weyland Yutani Report. It's very apparent fox does not want it all to connect. At least not Avp and Avatar  :P

Quote from: The Alien Predator on Apr 23, 2016, 04:09:51 PM
All this stuff has inspired me to try and submit my own fanfiction to Fox, they might actually like it and it could get green lit. You never know! If a fan can do it, why can't the other fans? You lot should give it a shot. You never know... you might just be the next director of Alien VI.

Totally, go for it. Just make sure you have written and directed at least three successful, full-length feature films and received a few Oscar noms for one of them.

Quote from: CainsSon on Apr 23, 2016, 08:15:13 PM
The game at this point is to EXPAND the Universe and Cross-pollinate like MARVEL.

Everyone complains about RIPLEY's inclusion because they want an Alien story that goes elsewhere, but we HAVE THAT. We have confirmation of 3 more movies of that. So why be excited about this then? I think its because we all know Ripley just adds something to the series and that's why Blomkamp's film is exciting.

I also hope they fix the A3 and AR mess, by making the Ripley in 3 or THIS ONE a clone as well.

Like it opens with some shady Company people who have been covering shit up all along, boarding the SULACO after Aliens but she has already been facehugged, so they clone her, and keep the real Ripley in stasis, rather than risk losing the Queen inside her. Only something goes wrong and that causes the fire? Or maybe the military boards, and demands answers so the shady types start some shit and start the fire so the military stops asking questions and they have their specimens.

I dunno. It's forced as all hell but so is the beginning of A3 so they could potentially fix that.

At the end of the day, FOX wants it all to connect. Alien, Predator, AVP and the Mythology of Prometheus. Maybe even Avatar (god help us).

If I understand correctly, the work on W-Y Report was basically wrapped up by the time Blomkamp's news came out.  So if Blomkamp's film will happen, then W-Y Report will become either obsolete, or it will reflect an alternate timeline.  I suspect that even if Blomkamp's film doesn't come out Alien Covenant and other Ridley Scott films would collide with W-Y Report.  My best recommendation is to treat W-Y Report as the pinnacle of the Alien universe's current continuity.  Even if A3 and AR are retconned, this will be a classic book about those films.

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 23, 2016, 10:08:27 PM

Quote from: CainsSon on Apr 23, 2016, 08:15:13 PM
The game at this point is to EXPAND the Universe and Cross-pollinate like MARVEL.

Everyone complains about RIPLEY's inclusion because they want an Alien story that goes elsewhere, but we HAVE THAT. We have confirmation of 3 more movies of that. So why be excited about this then? I think its because we all know Ripley just adds something to the series and that's why Blomkamp's film is exciting.

I also hope they fix the A3 and AR mess, by making the Ripley in 3 or THIS ONE a clone as well.

Like it opens with some shady Company people who have been covering shit up all along, boarding the SULACO after Aliens but she has already been facehugged, so they clone her, and keep the real Ripley in stasis, rather than risk losing the Queen inside her. Only something goes wrong and that causes the fire? Or maybe the military boards, and demands answers so the shady types start some shit and start the fire so the military stops asking questions and they have their specimens.

I dunno. It's forced as all hell but so is the beginning of A3 so they could potentially fix that.

At the end of the day, FOX wants it all to connect. Alien, Predator, AVP and the Mythology of Prometheus. Maybe even Avatar (god help us).

If I understand correctly, the work on W-Y Report was basically wrapped up by the time Blomkamp's news came out.  So if Blomkamp's film will happen, then W-Y Report will become either obsolete, or it will reflect an alternate timeline.  I suspect that even if Blomkamp's film doesn't come out Alien Covenant and other Ridley Scott films would collide with W-Y Report.  My best recommendation is to treat W-Y Report as the pinnacle of the Alien universe's current continuity.  Even if A3 and AR are retconned, this will be a classic book about those films.

I didnt pick that one up yet. What does it say regarding this stuff that has everyone so convinced?
As much as I love that stuff - especially books and novels... I always advise against taking anything outside of the films as holding much weight. Even games like ISOLATION - Id say there's always the prospect of those becoming films one day, and you can bet if that were to happen, they would change a lot of things to make the story new.

I have the pleasure of seeing Sigourney Weaver present ALIENS, in NYC, this Tuesday, for 4/26.
Im guessing this will come up and I will be sure to update everyone if she says anything interesting or new.

Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Apr 23, 2016, 12:35:50 AM
If FOX was wise, they would venture into more animation and short films in both the Alien and Predator universe. The events of Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 should be used as reference points to where the new stories would take place timeline wise, but I find we need move away from Ripley.

Would using other characters during similar time periods disrespect the story of Ripley? Absolutely not. That was her story. Time for other tales to be told.

Completely agree. I've been hoping for an animated Alien or Predator film for a long time now. I think there's some real scope and exploration to be had in it.

Quote from: windebieste on Apr 23, 2016, 03:49:17 AM
She is holding the series back.  Last time I looked this series was called:

A  L  I  E  N

and not:

E  L  L  E  N

That's a problem I have as well. There does seem to be too much of an over-reliance on Ripley.

That said, I'm still hopeful for Alien 3.2. I'm very curious to see what they do with it.

It's good that this potential film is still getting people talking about it despite Covenant taking front seat at the moment.

That's because there was so much media silence for a long time on the subject.  Distance makes the heart grow fond.

It's the same technique Axl Rose used for Guns N Roses.  At the height of their fame, he just closed the doors.  With time, the fans went bananas asking for more.

It takes balls to step back from the limelight sometimes, and the results can be spectacular.  The fact that everybody stopped talking about Alien V for a few months, did the film a lot of good.