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Out of all the movies so far which one is the worst (I gave everyone 3 votes to ideally pick one alien, predator, Avp film....or if you really hate one fipm just give it all 3 votes lol)

AVP, AVPR, and The Predator, easily. AVP is the most watchable of the three, but even that one, I don't know if I ever see myself watching it again. The other two, I absolutely don't see myself ever watching again.

Predators is a good concept that, unfortunately, kind of self-sabotages a bit in its second half and runs out of steam; I don't hate it, but I really do wish it did more with the potential it had. Everything else (even Prometheus and Resurrection, messy as they may be), I genuinely like.

AvPR, The Predator and Prometheus.

I can't hate AR, it was my first Alien movie that I ever watched and at least doesn't harm the lore of the 3 previous films and it's dumb fun. But Prometheus... I can't even express the excitement that I had back in 2012,and how frustrating it was. I remember trying to convince myself of liking it, but no I hate it.

And AvPR and The Predator, they doesn't need any explanation

Covenant, Pred2018 and AVPR
Covenant and Pred2018 both butcher the mythos and mystery as well as general appeal of the 2 iconic creatures.
AVPR is self explanatory

Sure, Prometheus set the seeds for one, or maybe AVP and AR are worse than one of those 3, but none of them had as much of a lasting negative impact on the franchise as the 3 I mentioned, we are gonna have to deal with the bad lore of David making the Aliens and of Preds being dumb DNA collectors for years to come.

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jun 21, 2023, 04:22:48 PMSure, Prometheus set the seeds for one, or maybe AVP and AR are worse than one of those 3, but none of them had as much of a lasting negative impact on the franchise as the 3 I mentioned, we are gonna have to deal with the bad lore of David making the Aliens and of Preds being dumb DNA collectors for years to come.

I don't think anyone is ever going acknowledge or utilize the events of The Predator on screen again, honestly. Prey certainly didn't bother doing anything with any of that added lore.

I would be very, very happy to see Prometheus and Covenant continue to have ripple effects in future Alien installments, though.

I would be very, very happy if Ridley Scott had never used the Alien franchise to tell a pretentious unrelated story about creation

Counter-point:

Prequels are cool and good

ChatGPT says otherwise. >:(

Yeah but ChatGPT is dumb and bad.

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 21, 2023, 07:38:40 PMYeah but ChatGPT is dumb and bad.

 >:(

Just for that:

Let's not mince words here: both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant have committed cinematic crimes against the beloved Alien universe, seemingly with the singular goal of distorting, diluting, and outright damaging the intriguing lore established by Ridley Scott's original Alien, and James Cameron's unassailable sequel, Aliens.

Prometheus, billed as a high-concept science fiction epic, attempted to delve into the origins of mankind, promising a rich tapestry of philosophical exploration. Instead, we were delivered a convoluted mess of narrative threads that unraveled faster than a Xenomorph in a ventilation shaft. We were presented with a team of scientists who, despite their alleged expertise, displayed the survival instincts of lemmings, engaging in a set of actions that were mind-boggling in their stupidity.

Then there's the matter of the Engineers. These 'precursors' to our fearsome Xenomorphs, rather than enhancing the Alien universe, served to strip away the terrifying mystery that made the original creature so compelling. The Alien universe didn't need a creation myth; the unknown origins of the Xenomorphs were part of their allure, and to explain it in such a slapdash manner was an affront to the fans.

Next, we come to Alien: Covenant, which attempted to course correct the narrative missteps of Prometheus. It proved, however, to be a false dawn. The same disdain for coherent storytelling and character development persisted. The plot lurched from one absurd scenario to another, continuing the trend of supposedly smart people making terribly unsmart decisions.

Perhaps the most egregious sin of Alien: Covenant, though, was its treatment of the Xenomorphs. Turning them into the creations of a rogue android – the petulant David – didn't just defy the established lore, it spat acid blood in its face. This twist didn't make the creatures more terrifying; it made them feel manufactured, cheapened, and ultimately undermined the spine-tingling horror they once embodied.

Both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant are guilty of over-explaining a universe that thrived on ambiguity and mystery. Instead of deepening our understanding of the Alien world, they complicated it, muddled it, and stripped it of its majestic terror. These films didn't extend the lore; they irreparably fractured it, and the Alien franchise is poorer for their existence.

Sincerely,

ChatGPT

Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 21, 2023, 07:55:47 PMThis twist didn't make the creatures more terrifying; it made them feel manufactured, cheapened, and ultimately undermined the spine-tingling horror they once embodied.

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Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 21, 2023, 07:55:47 PM

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 21, 2023, 07:38:40 PMYeah but ChatGPT is dumb and bad.

 >:(

Just for that:

Let's not mince words here: both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant have committed cinematic crimes against the beloved Alien universe, seemingly with the singular goal of distorting, diluting, and outright damaging the intriguing lore established by Ridley Scott's original Alien, and James Cameron's unassailable sequel, Aliens.

Prometheus, billed as a high-concept science fiction epic, attempted to delve into the origins of mankind, promising a rich tapestry of philosophical exploration. Instead, we were delivered a convoluted mess of narrative threads that unraveled faster than a Xenomorph in a ventilation shaft. We were presented with a team of scientists who, despite their alleged expertise, displayed the survival instincts of lemmings, engaging in a set of actions that were mind-boggling in their stupidity.

Then there's the matter of the Engineers. These 'precursors' to our fearsome Xenomorphs, rather than enhancing the Alien universe, served to strip away the terrifying mystery that made the original creature so compelling. The Alien universe didn't need a creation myth; the unknown origins of the Xenomorphs were part of their allure, and to explain it in such a slapdash manner was an affront to the fans.

Next, we come to Alien: Covenant, which attempted to course correct the narrative missteps of Prometheus. It proved, however, to be a false dawn. The same disdain for coherent storytelling and character development persisted. The plot lurched from one absurd scenario to another, continuing the trend of supposedly smart people making terribly unsmart decisions.

Perhaps the most egregious sin of Alien: Covenant, though, was its treatment of the Xenomorphs. Turning them into the creations of a rogue android – the petulant David – didn't just defy the established lore, it spat acid blood in its face. This twist didn't make the creatures more terrifying; it made them feel manufactured, cheapened, and ultimately undermined the spine-tingling horror they once embodied.

Both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant are guilty of over-explaining a universe that thrived on ambiguity and mystery. Instead of deepening our understanding of the Alien world, they complicated it, muddled it, and stripped it of its majestic terror. These films didn't extend the lore; they irreparably fractured it, and the Alien franchise is poorer for their existence.

Sincerely,

ChatGPT

This is amazing, so you hate the precuels but you defend Aliens Colonial Marines 😨

I'm not going to defend Prometheus but Covenant was decent enough (like a true 7 or 7 and half film, not the "Randy's 7 or 7 and half).

😅the randy stuff must be just meme material

I personally think if you watch Prometheus as a stand alone film it makes it a lot better. Just an additional story and expansion within the alien universe aside from having a xenomorph.

Alien covenant is decent but I really wish they didn't have the xenomorph in it, the only theory I like to think is that David was following the engineers blueprints for creating a xenomorph.

Prometheus works about as well for me standalone as it does as part of the Alien mythos - either way, I love the movie conceptually, but I find the execution (namely, the script and, even more drastically, the editing) to be an absolute mess. It's chock full of fascinating ideas, it's gorgeous to look at, and it is absolutely maddening in its structure and pacing. Somewhere out there is a much more functional edit of the film that, while not perfect (it'd still be working off of the same script, after all), is at least more coherent in its structure. Still, even with the elements that hold it back, Prometheus is a movie that I am happy exists.

Alien: Covenant rocks. I love the movie to bits. It picks up on nearly everything that works in Prometheus and runs with it in a movie that, on the whole, I find to work so much better than its direct predecessor.

I genuinely like Prometheus as well, the only scene I still don't really like is the guy trying to touch the worm, other than they I enjoy the film a lot.

Alien covenant I love all the way up until the xenomorph. It just felt rushed and unnecessary to be in the film. I like the idea that the prequel trilogy would have the third installment introducing the alien we know.
It felt so odd how they introduced the alien and how the facegugger barely touches the guy and how quickly the aliens grow to full size. CG looked off on it too.
I felt like the final ship battle scene could have been all time but even that felt rushed and the suspense died off quickly.
Really wish they just stuck with the neceomorph and had that sneak on the ship at the end and then they still could have kept the David sneaking faceguggers on board for the third installment

I'm mostly cool with the proto-Alien in Covenant's third act. My one real hangup there is that I think there should have only been one of them, instead of one dying and immediately being replaced by a second one. The one that David, proud father that he is, watches emerge from Oram should have survived its encounter with the crane on the lander and somehow made its way onto the Covenant for the final encounter with Daniels.

I could feel the spite when that thing showed up.

It has no real introduction. Just there, jumps in, murders some people, gets ganked. Outside of the acid blood and different appearance it's functionally no different to the neomorphs.

They should have made the Alien fight and win the Neomorph as some kind of sadistic and biomechanical serial killer vs the more feral behaviour of the neos 8)  I understand the whole "the future is biomechanical" direction but it was a waste of Alien presence. So either that, or they wait for the third prequel to show the first Alien.  ;D 👉👈

I still love this scene though. It's like a whole other movie that I want to see and I end up suddenly there...😭👉👈

(https://i.ibb.co/NWdm490/1-zgdq-Xi-BJe-Um-RIr-Mo-J-ggg.jpg)

I know people want Aliens in their Alien Media, but I hope Noah has things like that in the TV series. Also RBW revival!🥺

Prometheus isn't the worst of the franchise, but it is the one that angers me the most.  Definitely MY most hated. 

Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 03, 2023, 01:32:54 AMPrometheus isn't the worst of the franchise, but it is the one that angers me the most.  Definitely MY most hated. 

Same here, Prometheus it's my most hated movie of the franchise. Alien Resurrection at least is dumb fun, with some very cool scenes and it doesn't make any damage to the lore. Even Alien Covenant also has his good things too.

Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 03, 2023, 01:32:54 AMPrometheus isn't the worst of the franchise, but it is the one that angers me the most.  Definitely MY most hated. 

I don't recall your review of it.  What did you hate about it so much?

 ;)

Not this time. 

We probably should ask ChatGPT to review it

Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 03, 2023, 05:35:25 AM;)

Not this time. 

Did you see it for the first time in some exotic foreign land?

I think the first time I watched it was in Bardstown, Ky.  But I was only there because that was the unit I left with to go to an exotic land.

Honestly, the only films I actively Hate with a capital H are AvPR and The Predator. I generally try to focus on the positive, and there are small elements of potential in both of them, but they pale in comparison to the other okay/no so great films in the franchise thinking specifically Alien: Resurrection and AvP there (for me, at least).

I was considering also voting for Prometheus, but I find it more frustrating than being something I hate.

I voted AvP because it's the only one I find to be totally joyless and plastic, regardless of how dogshit a few of the others are.

The worst are The Predator and AvPR. 

AvP I'll always give SOME props to for going the opposite way with the matchup.  One Alien killing two Predators, and no humanized broken tusk pred character (I think they tried with scar or whatever they called him but they could hardly write human characters so I don't count it), nobody saw that coming on release.  It was soulless, with nonsensical things like the accelerated lifecycle that you literally didn't need to include, wooden characters who nobody gave AF about, and stupid death scenes like Weyland's, but it is still somewhat watchable to me.  It's like the new version of MK.  Old MK was better, but new MK was a trainwreck that I couldn't stop watching. 

That said it was big wrestling predators against cgi Aliens.  They did an advert for the movie in a college football game where the announcers kind of act like salesman for the movie (generally nothing more than, "looks interesting, can't wait to see it when its out,") and they showed the predator slinging the Alien around by its tail, and you could tell that both announcers thought it was so stupid that they were flabbergasted as to what to say.  Finally one of them finished with (and I paraphrase), "Gee it looks like that one guy rung his bell," and that was it.  It made me lol. 


 

Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 06, 2023, 08:50:23 PMThe worst are The Predator and AvPR.

Objectively correct, but I still feel like both of them have more of a sense of "fun" about them than AvP, even if both are basically unwatchable.

I freaking LOVED AvP 2004 as a kid so it'll always have that going for it to me

AvP hit at the right time for nostalgia for me. It'll always hold a special place in my heart.

I'm glad the predator is doing worse than avpr, I truthfully can not stand that movie with the exception of the predator killing the soldiers and breaking out of the lab

I chose Prometheus, Covenant and the first Alien vs Predator.

And not because they are the worst individual movies. No, that distinction would fall in a tie between The Predator and AvP Requiem which are objectively terrible films from both writing and technical standpoints, with few, if any, redeeming values even on a subjective level. It isn't even worth the time to try to figure out which is the absolute worst between the two, because then you would have spent irrecoverable moments of your life thinking about them. I have already lost an unconscionable amount of my life typing out this short paragraph.

But no, the three I chose are the Most Hated 3 because they make the good movies in those franchises less awesome by existing.  Prometheus bears the largest mark of shame.  It takes the grand, beautiful mystery of the Space Jockey, "Wow, what's this ship, and who were these creatures? How did they end up crash landed on this planet with a cavern/room full of eggs underneath their spaceship?" and the answer it gives is... really, really lame. They were Angry Blue Man Group, they're actually a fraction of the size, that skeleton is a space suit, and oh, also, they're part of the Ancient Astronaut Theory.  f**k you.  Not knowing the answer was way cooler than this half-baked, continuity bending dogshit answer.

Then Covenant doubles down on the awful back story by having David genetically engineer his own Aliens after murdering the entire Engineer species who apparently only exist on that planet now. And the entire cast of the movie are beige paste of characters most of whom I forgot before the movie even ended. f**k you.

Alien vs Predator earns the last spot just because the original Aliens vs Predator comic book story is so perfectly crafted, and they had a script based on that series. It's set in the future, off Earth, so you have no problems with canonicity or continuity, and nothing that needs explanation or hand-waving.  Instead, now the Predators are the foundation of every ancient human civilization, and the movie is set on modern day Earth and f**k you. Could have just started this franchise on an easy win with even a half-decent story, and instead I'm left wondering why Freddy vs Jason is still the best horror crossover film. At least it understood its source material knew what it should be.

There's always one dickhead.

Aww, that's not fair.  Ridley Scott isn't a dickhead. He's just an elderly, out of touch man obsessed with creation theories. He has made some fantastic movies. He just also made Prometheus, Covenant, and Exodus: Gods & Kings. 

I suspect she's talking about whoever voted for Alien 3.  I never knew that David Fincher was a lurker here.

If Lucy is talking about haters of Prometheus there are at least two dickheads. 

As often as an eclipse but Local Trouble's right.

 >:(

For my it must be both AvP Films, Predators and Prometheus.
First AvP is just uninteresting movie that wasted what should be most exiting movie crossover ever with stupid things like setting it on earth, focusing on bland characters and giving too much boring and heavy handed exposition with ancient hunts and whatever.
AvPR is just terrible almost in everything, but I at least can have a little fun treating it as low class, small town alien invasion flick, though I doubt that it was the intention. Oh, and Wolf is badass.
Predators is just boring movie, that does nothing particullary well, repeats too much elements from first movie, but does them worse, and has stereotypical, antipathetic set of characters. Also having multiple Predators hardly even matters, It would be almost tge same with just one,final hunter.
Prometheus is badly paced, unfocused, overcomplicated in a bad way mess, that just confused everyone about Alien lore. At least it is most interesting from the bunch with many interesting ideas, that maybe weren't handled well in movie itself, but I like what various creators do with them nowadays in books, comics or games.

I could never muster any hate for the AvP flicks because the Alien franchise had already hit rock bottom by then with AR and I never gave enough of a shit about Predator in the first place.

It wasn't until the pendulum swung completely in the other direction with the pretentious drivel of the prequels that I rediscovered my capacity for hatred once again.

Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 14, 2023, 06:55:02 PMIt wasn't until the pendulum swung completely in the other direction with the pretentious drivel of the prequels that I rediscovered my capacity for hatred once again.

 :o

The prequels were a gift in that sense, I suppose.  I never feel more alive than when I'm seething with hatred and furious anger. >:(

Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 14, 2023, 11:15:35 PMThe prequels were a gift

Covenant, mostly, but yes.

I voted Covenant mostly due to the direction it took the Aliens. Like, that was an awful, awful direction. I do consider The Predator to be a much worse film but I'm indifferent to that at this point in time.

I can stand covenant just because even though David created those Aliens, he could've just been following somebody else's blueprints.  I don't remember it being said he created THE Alien.  Especially since they were hinted at in the capsule room in Prometheus. 

But..........its been years since I watched either. 

Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 17, 2023, 05:40:19 AMI can stand covenant just because even though David created those Aliens, he could've just been following somebody else's blueprints.  I don't remember it being said he created THE Alien.

There have been apocalyptic battles fought between Xenomrph and SiL on that very topic in the past, but their wounds run deep and they don't talk about it anymore.

The film itself says he makes the Alien.

There's room for later stories to say he didn't.

Yea, just the way the film is shot and the tone of it very much tells the viewers that David created the Aliens. Like, that's Scott's choice and it is awful. Authors try to fix it in later stories but the damage is already done because those stories and possibly future films are likely going to be anchored by Covenant. Like, the rest of the film is just ultimately mediocre with forgettable idiot characters. And I consider mediocre films to be the worst kind of thing, because even tho The Predator is a fundamentally worse film, it is much more memorable for some if not most fans, in an eye rolling way.

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Should also say that I really hate the idea of the Jockies being bald men in suits.

Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 17, 2023, 05:40:19 AMI can stand covenant just because even though David created those Aliens, he could've just been following somebody else's blueprints.  I don't remember it being said he created THE Alien.  Especially since they were hinted at in the capsule room in Prometheus. 

But..........its been years since I watched either. 

iirc that WAS the intention, that he followed a blueprint but couldn't perfectly recreate it, with the novel and early script having a scene with him showing the blueprint to someone else, I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure a scene about this was shot but got cut

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 19, 2023, 10:55:54 PM

Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 17, 2023, 05:40:19 AMI can stand covenant just because even though David created those Aliens, he could've just been following somebody else's blueprints.  I don't remember it being said he created THE Alien.  Especially since they were hinted at in the capsule room in Prometheus. 

But..........its been years since I watched either. 

iirc that WAS the intention, that he followed a blueprint but couldn't perfectly recreate it, with the novel and early script having a scene with him showing the blueprint to someone else, I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure a scene about this was shot but got cut

The novel's presentation of that scene of Foster's own invention, with him setting out to contradict the intent of Scott/the script in that detail.

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 19, 2023, 11:10:00 PM

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 19, 2023, 10:55:54 PM

Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 17, 2023, 05:40:19 AMI can stand covenant just because even though David created those Aliens, he could've just been following somebody else's blueprints.  I don't remember it being said he created THE Alien.  Especially since they were hinted at in the capsule room in Prometheus. 

But..........its been years since I watched either. 

iirc that WAS the intention, that he followed a blueprint but couldn't perfectly recreate it, with the novel and early script having a scene with him showing the blueprint to someone else, I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure a scene about this was shot but got cut

The novel's presentation of that scene of Foster's own invention, with him setting out to contradict the intent of Scott/the script in that detail.

What a f**king king then

I did a big ass article/video about this a year or so ago.

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/alien-movies/alien-covenant/alien-creation-controversy/

or in video

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 20, 2023, 07:15:19 AMI did a big ass article/video about this a year or so ago.

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/alien-movies/alien-covenant/alien-creation-controversy/

or in video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YypOJvThyqk

Very good video. I do like that there's this wiggle room there and I'm wondering how Alien Romulus will handle it if it at all tackles that aspect.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 20, 2023, 07:15:19 AMI did a big ass article/video about this a year or so ago.

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/alien-movies/alien-covenant/alien-creation-controversy/

or in video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YypOJvThyqk

Will def give it a watch later

The highlight of my night watching Covenant was when I tripped and fell on my ass in the theater.

I'm honestly surprised Resurrection hasn't gotten more votes. Though not The Predator level it is easily the one I go back and watch the least.

Quote from: Exposedoldgregg on Sep 13, 2023, 12:15:04 PMI'm honestly surprised Resurrection hasn't gotten more votes. Though not The Predator level it is easily the one I go back and watch the least.

It doesn't ruin any of the other movies since it's so far in the future

Exactly, like a certain film that thought it was a good idea to have a Predator killer suit, mega predator, predator dogs, and predators dressed as US soldiers.

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Sep 13, 2023, 03:43:46 PM

Quote from: Exposedoldgregg on Sep 13, 2023, 12:15:04 PMI'm honestly surprised Resurrection hasn't gotten more votes. Though not The Predator level it is easily the one I go back and watch the least.

It doesn't ruin any of the other movies since it's so far in the future

And it looks great and has some interesting ideas going for it, despite its middling script.

The Predator is just insufferable.

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 13, 2023, 06:48:30 PM

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Sep 13, 2023, 03:43:46 PM

Quote from: Exposedoldgregg on Sep 13, 2023, 12:15:04 PMI'm honestly surprised Resurrection hasn't gotten more votes. Though not The Predator level it is easily the one I go back and watch the least.

It doesn't ruin any of the other movies since it's so far in the future

And it looks great and has some interesting ideas going for it, despite its middling script.

The Predator is just insufferable.

I do agree with you there :)

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Sep 13, 2023, 03:43:46 PM

Quote from: Exposedoldgregg on Sep 13, 2023, 12:15:04 PMI'm honestly surprised Resurrection hasn't gotten more votes. Though not The Predator level it is easily the one I go back and watch the least.

It doesn't ruin any of the other movies since it's so far in the future

It did leave a dent in the EU that's still difficult to explain.

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jun 21, 2023, 04:22:48 PMCovenant, Pred2018 and AVPR
Covenant and Pred2018 both butcher the mythos and mystery as well as general appeal of the 2 iconic creatures.
AVPR is self explanatory

Sure, Prometheus set the seeds for one, or maybe AVP and AR are worse than one of those 3, but none of them had as much of a lasting negative impact on the franchise as the 3 I mentioned, we are gonna have to deal with the bad lore of David making the Aliens and of Preds being dumb DNA collectors for years to come.

David made another form of the Xenomorph. It wasn't a traditional chestburster that came out but a fully formed xeno. Now, books or comics I can't tell you about. I'm just strictly going off that movie.

My Dad likes it cause of the humor. "Is that tobacco in your respirator?" And I liked it in general as a separate movie itself. Now part of Alien universe...well, nah. But it was a nice looking movie.

Quote from: Wweyland on Sep 13, 2023, 10:19:20 PMIt did leave a dent in the EU that's still difficult to explain.

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There is no contempt like that of a 90's Alien film's contempt towards the expanded universe.

Quote from: Wweyland on Sep 13, 2023, 10:19:20 PM

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Sep 13, 2023, 03:43:46 PM

Quote from: Exposedoldgregg on Sep 13, 2023, 12:15:04 PMI'm honestly surprised Resurrection hasn't gotten more votes. Though not The Predator level it is easily the one I go back and watch the least.

It doesn't ruin any of the other movies since it's so far in the future

It did leave a dent in the EU that's still difficult to explain.

Simple! We don't explain, we shouldn't try crossing over 100 years post Aliens/Alien 3

Just rewatched A:R for the first time in years after someone...

Spoiler

[cancerblack]

[close]

Made me start doubting myself and think, "maybe the film isn't as bad as I remember it and I'm being overly critical."

Turns out it's still Alien Resurrection.

And if I had to rank my least favorite in order it would be: The Predator, AVPR, A:R

Quote from: littlesprout on Sep 15, 2023, 07:04:02 PMTurns out it's still Alien Resurrection.

"And that's a good thing".

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Quote from: littlesprout on Sep 15, 2023, 07:04:02 PMTurns out it's still Alien Resurrection.

"And that's a good thing".

*facepalms with the release of a heavy sigh