We’ve known for quite some time that Fede Alvarez’s upcoming Alien film was in production under the working title Alien: Romulus, but it’s now known that the film will also be releasing under that title. During Disney’s first quarterly earnings call (via Deadline), CEO Bob Iger confirmed the final title and re-iterated that Alien: Romulus would be releasing theatrically on the 16th of August 2024!
20th Century Studios' Alien reboot movie from Fede Alvarez is now known as Alien: Romulus. Here is pic's blurb: Young people from a distant world must face the most terrifying life form in the universe. The movie is still set for Aug. 16 this year and stars Priscilla's Cailee Spaeny, Isabela Merced, Aileen Wu, Spike Fearn, David Jonsson and Archie Renaux. The new feature creature from outer space movie is not connected to the FX series that Noah Hawley is behind.
On #AlienDay 2023 director Fede Alvarez shared this picture from the set of Alien: Romulus.
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Update 09/02/2024: Disney’s Q1’24 Earnings Presentation has been uploaded the worldwide web and Alien: Romulus’ logo can also be found on Slide 8 with Disney’s upcoming release slate. Much like Alien: Covenant also did, Romulus returns to the original Alien type-face.
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I'm probably in the minority but I don't like the title at all.
I thought it was a bit clunky when we first heard the name and it took a while to adjust to, but it's been with us so long now that it just comes natural to me at this point.
So it's official, Fede's baby joins Promi and Covi with spaceship names tradition in the film's title.
I wonder if it's not going to cause some confusion with Star Trek among general audiences?
Like the name myself, it's the kind of name Ridley would have given it.
I mean, I'm used to hearing this as the title now, but if this is the ship's name again it's getting a little unimaginative. 😅
Alien: Nostromo
Aliens: Hadley's Hope
Alien 3: Fury
Alien: Auriga (actually I prefer the sound of this one to Alien Resurrection to be honest; there's the fan-edit title sorted lmao)
Don't worry, it'll all come together once the next one is titled "Alien: Remus."
The ship name thing with Prometheus, Covenant and I assume Romulus also has to do with the main theme of the film, so I think it would be...
Nostromo, meaning shipmate, the eighth passenger anyone? For Aliens, Acheron or forty miles of bad road as Cameron might say. For Alien³ Fury, well, pretty obvious. And Auriga.
Don't love it but it's an ok title.
Romulus - raised by wolves.
Also, here's the logo.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/Alien_-_Romulus_logo.jpg)
I don't care about the title as long as the film is good. Does concern me a little the cast look like they've just graduated kindergarten
Kindergarten's hard though
😂 for me especially lol
Still not over the fact mother actually left me alone with those loonies :P
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 08, 2024, 08:49:49 PMAlso, here's the logo.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/Alien_-_Romulus_logo.jpg
Where'd that one come from?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2024, 09:04:45 AMQuote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 08, 2024, 08:49:49 PMAlso, here's the logo.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/Alien_-_Romulus_logo.jpg
Where'd that one come from?
Wikipedia.
It's from the actual presentation: https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/app/uploads/2024/02/Q1_FY24_Earnings_Presentation.pdf
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2024, 09:14:19 AMIt's from the actual presentation: https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/app/uploads/2024/02/Q1_FY24_Earnings_Presentation.pdf
It's legit then. Same type font and spacing as the original film.
Seems to be! News post has been updated with this too.
Maybe it's just me and recency bias, but the fact that we have the official title font this close to sunday, gives me more hope for a Super Bowl TV Spot.
I mean they have logos for films not due for release until next year, I definitely wouldn't read into it.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 09, 2024, 10:35:27 AMI mean they have logos for films not due for release until next year, I definitely wouldn't read into it.
True, but Moana 2 just had a 15 second teaser released this week, so i don't think it would be that strange if the same happened to Alien.
I have seen more tweets related to Alien: Romulus (mainly because of super bowl rumors and the scoop insiders) than the entirety of January.
I would be glad if some images from the film debuted in Empire magazine at least. The newest issue will premiere today. The first Prometheus and Covenant images debuted there and kicked the marketing.
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 09, 2024, 10:52:33 AMI would be glad if some images from the film debuted in Empire magazine at least. The newest issue will premiere today. The first Prometheus and Covenant images debuted there and kicked the marketing.
The new issue premieres today?
Damn, can you imagine if some images dropped today.
Just like that, it would have been a nice surprise for the fandom.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 10:54:32 AMJust like that, it would have been a nice surprise for the fandom.
Fede Alvarez is celebrating his birthday today. And perhaps he will surprise us with a nice present on his Instagram profile ;D :P
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 09, 2024, 11:06:57 AMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 10:54:32 AMJust like that, it would have been a nice surprise for the fandom.
Fede Alvarez is celebrating his birthday today. And perhaps he will surprise us with a nice present on his Instagram profile ;D :P
Damn, you keep giving me more hope with every comment you make.
Keep cooking lmao
Raised By Wolves remains the best gift prequel fans ever got. And like the prequels, it was snuffed out before its time.
Bob Iger Disney Alien Romulus after Disney Predator Prey, Marvel, SW ;D
Quote from: Mr. J on Feb 09, 2024, 01:27:49 PMBob Iger Disney Alien Romulus after Disney Predator Prey, Marvel, SW ;D
That is, undoubtedly, a string of words.
I really don't like it and think it's clunky. But so was Alien Covenant (and renaming the Magellan to Prometheus), so it's franchise consistent.
Quote from: Kane's other son on Feb 09, 2024, 04:21:41 PMI really don't like it and think it's clunky. But so was Alien Covenant (and renaming the Magellan to Prometheus), so it's franchise consistent.
In the RPG, the Magellan-class vessel is the successor to the Heliades-class (of which the Prometheus was one), which is a pretty neat shout-out.
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1755347204456538611
It's getting closer and closer. ;D
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 08:56:20 PMIt's getting closer and closer. ;D
Trailer incoming...?!?!?!
Quote from: DaveT937 on Feb 09, 2024, 10:11:14 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 08:56:20 PMIt's getting closer and closer. ;D
Trailer incoming...?!?!?!
Still not expecting that just yet, myself. But would love to be wrong.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 08:11:13 PMhttps://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1755347204456538611
So interesting because Covenant had so much brother imagery, two androids, two Neomorphs, two Aliens, two embryos.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 08:56:20 PMIt's getting closer and closer. ;D
What do you mean?
Is this a hint to something special or just a playful way to say that movie is getting closer, one day at a time lmao
The latter, I'd bet.
What the future might hold... Alien: Romcom
Am I the only one worried that they used the word "reboot"? They should've said stand-alone, right?
"Reboot" is a word with so many definitions that it is pretty much meaningless at this point.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 08:11:13 PMhttps://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1755347204456538611
Sequel title confirmed.
Ok, who the hell is Steve Asbell?
This is not the first tweet of his that people have put here.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 10, 2024, 03:08:00 PMOk, who the hell is Steve Asbell?
This is not the first tweet of his that people have put here.
Executive vice president of production at 2oth Century Studios
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 01:55:11 PM"Reboot" is a word with so many definitions that it is pretty much meaningless at this point.
"Reboot" is indeed a pretty vague term, but it usually falls into two categories: soft and hard reboots. A soft reboot is a sequel that emulates characteristics of its original works, while a hard reboot retcons previous sequels, sometimes following only the original entries of the series. Examples of soft reboots include "The Force Awakens" and "Ghostbusters: Afterlife." In contrast, "Halloween" (2018) is an example of a hard reboot. "Alien: Romulus" qualifies as a soft reboot due to its similarities with the original "Alien" and its use of retrofuturistic technology.
(Props to ChatGPT for making my autistic rambling and ADHDing more comprehensible and concise)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 10, 2024, 03:12:21 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 10, 2024, 03:08:00 PMOk, who the hell is Steve Asbell?
This is not the first tweet of his that people have put here.
Executive vice president of production at 2oth Century Studios
Interesting, so that is why some people were saying that he was "leading" things into a good direction.
Is it odd that we have this Alien film coming out later this year and we've yet to see a teaser or a trailer?
Quote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 03:55:51 PMIs it odd that we have this Alien film coming out later this year and we've yet to see a teaser or a trailer?
Well, we got Super Bowl tomorrow, so you never know...
Also, after the COVID lockdown, movie marketing has been different.
There was a time where sometimes the first teaser or trailer would be released almost a full year before the theatrical release, but now movies (especially horror movies) tend to keep their marketing closer to its release date.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 10, 2024, 03:58:50 PMQuote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 03:55:51 PMIs it odd that we have this Alien film coming out later this year and we've yet to see a teaser or a trailer?
Well, we got Super Bowl tomorrow, so you never know...
Also, after the COVID lockdown, movie marketing has been different.
There was a time where sometimes the first teaser or trailer would be released almost a full year before the theatrical release, but now movies (especially horror movies) tend to keep their marketing closer to its release date.
I guess i'm watching the superbowl then haha.
Quote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 03:55:51 PMIs it odd that we have this Alien film coming out later this year and we've yet to see a teaser or a trailer?
The movie is still half a year away. Not that odd to have not seen anything yet.
Don't get your hopes up too much for the Super Bowl. There's a big chance of nothing coming tomorrow. Watch away, but lower expectations.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 05:29:01 PMQuote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 03:55:51 PMIs it odd that we have this Alien film coming out later this year and we've yet to see a teaser or a trailer?
The movie is still half a year away. Not that odd to have not seen anything yet.
Makes sense. I vaguely remember when Covenant drop its teaser trailer it was before Christmas of 2016. Covenant debuted in May 2017. Hopefully it drops soon. I'm getting antsy.
Plus, Romulus wasn't originally a theatrical release, so there's possibly been a scramble to get things ready.
There's no scramble. They changed the plans on release to theatrical far enough in advanced. They have a plan, it's just not started yet. I know they are starting to shoot some marketing materials soon with cast and crew. Just because you haven't seen anything, doesn't mean they don't have faith or they don't have a plan.
-Signed, former marketing employee of Bandai Namco Toys & Collectibles and I also know people who are marketing this movie.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 10, 2024, 07:08:39 PMThere's no scramble. They changed the plans on release to theatrical far enough in advanced. They have a plan, it's just not started yet. I know they are starting to shoot some marketing materials soon with cast and crew. Just because you haven't seen anything, doesn't mean they don't have faith or they don't have a plan.
-Signed, former marketing employee of Bandai Namco Toys & Collectibles and I also know people who are marketing this movie.
Hence the qualifier "possibly".
Yeah, but I'm telling you there is no possibility at all. It's a long distance memory it being a streaming release.
Quote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 06:31:29 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 05:29:01 PMQuote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 03:55:51 PMIs it odd that we have this Alien film coming out later this year and we've yet to see a teaser or a trailer?
The movie is still half a year away. Not that odd to have not seen anything yet.
Makes sense. I vaguely remember when Covenant drop its teaser trailer it was before Christmas of 2016. Covenant debuted in May 2017. Hopefully it drops soon. I'm getting antsy.
Still 6 months away from release, nothing to worry about. Marketing generally starts about 4-5 months before release anyways. I'd bet good money we get the first trailer by the end of March.
This happens every time.. people are excited for a project and worry when a trailer hasn't released. The trailer will be here soon and then shortly after we'll get interviews, behind the scenes videos, TV spots, and then people will ask ''Are they showing us too much''? :laugh:
We're all impatiently waiting for that trailer though. I've got alerts on all accounts related to this movie and can't wait for the day my phone buzzes and it says ''Alien: Romulus - Trailer''
@Mike's Monsters, do you know if Fede Álvarez is reading these boards?
We previously had guys like Colin Strause and Charles de Lauzirika follow threads of productions they were involved in.
No idea if Fede is looking, but he did seem to do his research. Wouldn't be surprised if he was looking around at times like Dan did with Prey.
The worries about marketing is a tune we hear with every franchise movie now. The same thing happened with Covenant, Prometheus, all the way back to AvPR and so on. Seeing so much of it in the Godzilla community with Godzilla x Kong coming out thinking there is no faith in the film when it's literally their biggest IP.
Marketing timelines are much more different today. Release windows are shorter, movies are hitting streaming faster. They don't put out a lot of money to drop trailers and posters a year in advanced all the time now. There's the occasional movie that does, but it's no longer the regular to push for half a year. It's not a sign of lack of faith, or that the studios don't care about the project.
Before we know it we will be saying they've shown too much.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 10, 2024, 07:40:06 PMYeah, but I'm telling you there is no possibility at all. It's a long distance memory it being a streaming release.
I know, I just added "possibly" because I obviously didn't know for sure.
Damn, I thought I had a solid theory!
Just a friendly reminder that alien (subtitled) covenant was released 7 years ago! :o
So any concerns of a derivative subtitle will be lost on many especially if the film is BBFC/MPA rated 15/light R. If "romulus", hold your (very) old skool/boomer star trek reference, is the final title kids from 2017 will see it as a matinee.
Certainly better than any Adam Sandler or Paul Blart Mall cop type filler trash at multiplexes.
As has been said a few times around the place, your average movie's marketing kicks into gear around 4 months prior to release. If Romulus is set for August expect April / May to be safe.
If they want to make it a tentpole film they might start earlier, but in not holding my breath.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 05:29:01 PMQuote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 03:55:51 PMIs it odd that we have this Alien film coming out later this year and we've yet to see a teaser or a trailer?
The movie is still half a year away. Not that odd to have not seen anything yet.
maybe it's my memory playing tricks but marketing cycles used to feel longer? I vaguely remember magazines posting images and we getting teasers for movies that were a year away from release etc.
And now in the streaming era smaller movies feel like they have their marketing push ultra condensed on the last months before release to try and make the most impact with audiences.
They definitely used to market movies much earlier.
I don't think it's a bad thing necessarily. We got way too long with the Prometheus trailers and figured it all out well before it dropped.
Dat first Prometheus teaser though..
Still love it. And the UK/international trailer with Max Richter tunes.
I think the pandemic had a huge effect on marketing. We used to get a first trailer sometimes 7-8 months before release. Audiences have changed their behaviors, and plus with so much content out there it's hard to keep track of everything that's coming out.
For the last 2-3 years studios have started the marketing push maybe 4-5 months out. Usually that's when the first poster/trailer drop at least. You'll then start seeing the interviews, set visits, photos, etc about 2 months out.
Every movie is different and studios do different things based on the movie they need to market.
I prefer the shorter windows myself, especially with so much stuff coming out in this day and age of social media and CONTENT. But a tiny visualizer tease a year or so out is always fun too, like our set photo with the Facehugger last year.
Quote from: MudButt on Feb 10, 2024, 09:29:06 PMI think the pandemic had a huge effect on marketing. We used to get a first trailer sometimes 7-8 months before release. Audiences have changed their behaviors, and plus with so much content out there it's hard to keep track of everything that's coming out.
For the last 2-3 years studios have started the marketing push maybe 4-5 months out. Usually that's when the first poster/trailer drop at least. You'll then start seeing the interviews, set visits, photos, etc about 2 months out.
Every movie is different and studios do different things based on the movie they need to market.
To be fair this has been the average for a long time:
https://stephenfollows.com/far-advance-film-trailers-released/
The average from first trailer to release was 126 days even between 2000-2016, with less than 5% of films having a trailer over a year out. But I imagine another samples of 1000 films post-2016 would show a lot less in the 6+ months ranges
Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2024, 09:36:20 PMQuote from: MudButt on Feb 10, 2024, 09:29:06 PMI think the pandemic had a huge effect on marketing. We used to get a first trailer sometimes 7-8 months before release. Audiences have changed their behaviors, and plus with so much content out there it's hard to keep track of everything that's coming out.
For the last 2-3 years studios have started the marketing push maybe 4-5 months out. Usually that's when the first poster/trailer drop at least. You'll then start seeing the interviews, set visits, photos, etc about 2 months out.
Every movie is different and studios do different things based on the movie they need to market.
To be fair this has been the average for a long time:
https://stephenfollows.com/far-advance-film-trailers-released/
The average from first trailer to release was 126 days even between 2000-2016, with less than 5% of films having a trailer over a year out. But I imagine another samples of 1000 films post-2016 would show a lot less in the 6+ months ranges
Happy to be wrong! I'm no marketing expert. Just going off of memory. Maybe it just feels like we have to wait longer because we get so much content on a regular basis these days.
I remember a few times where the movie came out so long after the trailer that people didn't realise the movie hadn't already come and gone.
Hasn't happened in years though.
I can think of a few instances too. That might be where my numbers came from. Marketing is weird sometimes.
Even the post pandemic movies where it felt like we were seeing certain trailers for a year. Obviously not the intention but it's wild how long it feels like you either see the same footage or wait for new footage.
Time is a flat circle...
Quote from: MudButt on Feb 10, 2024, 07:45:49 PMQuote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 06:31:29 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 05:29:01 PMQuote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 03:55:51 PMIs it odd that we have this Alien film coming out later this year and we've yet to see a teaser or a trailer?
The movie is still half a year away. Not that odd to have not seen anything yet.
Makes sense. I vaguely remember when Covenant drop its teaser trailer it was before Christmas of 2016. Covenant debuted in May 2017. Hopefully it drops soon. I'm getting antsy.
Still 6 months away from release, nothing to worry about. Marketing generally starts about 4-5 months before release anyways. I'd bet good money we get the first trailer by the end of March.
This happens every time.. people are excited for a project and worry when a trailer hasn't released. The trailer will be here soon and then shortly after we'll get interviews, behind the scenes videos, TV spots, and then people will ask ''Are they showing us too much''? :laugh:
We're all impatiently waiting for that trailer though. I've got alerts on all accounts related to this movie and can't wait for the day my phone buzzes and it says ''Alien: Romulus - Trailer''
Of course this is all true. I must say I do LOVE "being in the before" a new movie/game" drop. I love all of the theories and speculation. I will wait impatiently for the AVPG gang's deep dive and analysis of the new material.
Quote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 10:41:45 PMQuote from: MudButt on Feb 10, 2024, 07:45:49 PMQuote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 06:31:29 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 05:29:01 PMQuote from: GreybackElder on Feb 10, 2024, 03:55:51 PMIs it odd that we have this Alien film coming out later this year and we've yet to see a teaser or a trailer?
The movie is still half a year away. Not that odd to have not seen anything yet.
Makes sense. I vaguely remember when Covenant drop its teaser trailer it was before Christmas of 2016. Covenant debuted in May 2017. Hopefully it drops soon. I'm getting antsy.
Still 6 months away from release, nothing to worry about. Marketing generally starts about 4-5 months before release anyways. I'd bet good money we get the first trailer by the end of March.
This happens every time.. people are excited for a project and worry when a trailer hasn't released. The trailer will be here soon and then shortly after we'll get interviews, behind the scenes videos, TV spots, and then people will ask ''Are they showing us too much''? :laugh:
We're all impatiently waiting for that trailer though. I've got alerts on all accounts related to this movie and can't wait for the day my phone buzzes and it says ''Alien: Romulus - Trailer''
Of course this is all true. I must say I do LOVE "being in the before" a new movie/game" drop. I love all of the theories and speculation. I will wait impatiently for the AVPG gang's deep dive and analysis of the new material.
I'm with you! I often am surprised by how much the folks on here catch in the trailers. It also just unlocks a whole new level of speculation and analysis 8)
Well, it was a no-show for Super Bowl (I'd be surprised if they'd spent any money to bring Alien: Romulus to such an expensive prime time). I guess we can safely assume its first trailer is coming on Alien Day, which is fine. The less we see of it before premiere, the better. I'm considering not watching the trailer tbh.
Quote from: Simply_Kevin on Feb 12, 2024, 03:23:31 PMWell, it was a no-show for Super Bowl (I'd be surprised if they'd spent any money to bring Alien: Romulus to such an expensive prime time). I guess we can safely assume its first trailer is coming on Alien Day, which is fine. The less we see of it before premiere, the better. I'm considering not watching the trailer tbh.
I admire your willpower. I'd love to be able to go in cold and just let it all wash over me, but I just don't think I'm capable of it.
Quote from: Simply_Kevin on Feb 12, 2024, 03:23:31 PMI'm considering not watching the trailer tbh
You can do that.
Teach me.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 12, 2024, 11:22:26 PMQuote from: Simply_Kevin on Feb 12, 2024, 03:23:31 PMI'm considering not watching the trailer tbh
You can do that.
Teach me.
@kwisatz can teach you. He still hasn't seen any of the Dune trailers. I didn't allow it.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 12, 2024, 11:25:06 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 12, 2024, 11:22:26 PMQuote from: Simply_Kevin on Feb 12, 2024, 03:23:31 PMI'm considering not watching the trailer tbh
You can do that.
Teach me.
Oh man, i am so excited for Dune.
I'm currently re-reading the first book.
I'm on page 304 and i want to finish it before the movie comes out.
@kwisatz can teach you. He still hasn't seen any of the Dune trailers. I didn't allow it.
Have a fun little tease that no one has noticed or pointed out yet from my knowledge:
https://twitter.com/mikes_monsters/status/1763858855929553154?s=46
Might be practical but I prefer the "clean" version.
An upgraded, better-designed facehugger.
Wonder who was behind that...
(https://static0.gamerantimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/alien-covenant-ending-david.jpg)
Looks like they got rid of the fingernails in the process though.
This kind of making me worried the violence is going to be quite mean spirited, as there's no reason to add those spikes to the fingers other than to try to make the hugging process more extreme. The tail choking the host and the nails were enough.
The old version also didn't brand the host.
Like, the host is rendered unconscious immediately, and the tail throttles them if you try to take it off. And if you try cutting, there's acid blood.
There's no justification for finger spines outside of trying to be nasty.
Which I guess is on brand for Fede. But it's just giving AvPR vibes.
Ah! The super face hugger from Alien 3 also had them.
Fede definitely seems to love him some A3 creature work.
Do we actually know how long it takes for a hugger to stun the host though?
The Kane hug immediately cuts away.. Wasn't someone ripping of an already attached hugger in Covenant or something?
It's as immediate as the film wants it to be.
But I just checked and it's a design feature from Alien3, which Fede has referenced in the past when he held a Runner head and asked what film it came from. So the guy clearly has a preference.
That makes me very happy personally, I think the barbs are terrifying, makes me wonder what other features from Alien³ we will see in this film.
I never noticed that in A3, that's cool. Maybe unnecessary but cool.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 02, 2024, 10:38:35 AMThat makes me very happy personally, I think the barbs are terrifying, makes me wonder what other features from Alien³ we will see in this film.
They're cheap, nasty, and superfluous.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 02, 2024, 10:40:19 AMI never noticed that in A3, that's cool. Maybe unnecessary but cool.
Only the super face hugger; they're not visible even in the extended version of the film and aren't seen being used.
I think it makes sense for the Queen Facehugger type, if you want to go that route anyway, it prioritises implantation over absolutely everything and the extra armour adds to that look.
I do not agree with it being on the regular one though, I agree here it feels superfluous.
As for being nasty and cheap, that I expected from day one.
This definitely feels like a very Fede Álvarez call. Should be very mean-spirited in its use/execution on screen, which is something I expected this film would lean into from the moment he was announced as director.
I've said it before, but Covenant's shower scene is probably the horror beat in the series that most feels like a thesis statement for what I'm expecting from Álvarez's work on this one.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 02, 2024, 10:50:24 AMI've said it before, but Covenant's shower scene is probably the horror beat in the series that most feels like a thesis statement for what I'm expecting from Álvarez's work on this one.
Nah, that scene still pulls away to recreate the Lambert death beat. I don't expect Fede to shy away and rely on audio or a character seeing the aftermath.
I hope he does. I don't expect it.
I am hoping for the same brutality we saw in Alien³ but expecting none of the artfulness of it either, I hope he surprises me on that count, if we get an Alien POV shot at any point, I hope it is a fisheye and not that awful veiny POV in Covenant.
Alien3 isn't particularly brutal, it's just bloodier. The only time the Alien does anything different to others is when it's seen mauling the corpse.
I think of the part when it just running into Jude splatters him all over the doorway as particularly brutal. And the autopsy and theatrical chestburster as emotionally brutal.
In that regard yes, I expect the tactlessness of Alien 3 and Resurrection.
I also expect to be on the edge of my seat, mind.
I don't see how it particularly make sense for the facehugger to almost inevitably damage the host with those added barbs though.
Maybe it has another purpose but I doubt it. I totally recognize Fede's style in this, it makes sense in that regard.
I guess they're not going with the original impregnation time either. Not damaging the host makes sense if they might get to move around undetected before popping; if it's microwave bake Aliens from AvP onwards, what does it matter if you damage them?
Damn, the "barbed wire" facehugger is such a nasty and raw addition.
Not only does it have acid as a defensive mechanism, but if some other party tries to remove the facehugger from the host by other means, it will start ripping off the skin (and more) from its victim's face, therefore making it more likely for it to be left alone.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is Isabella's disgusting scene.
She gets face-hugged, and when the other crew members try to remove it, the facehugger will rip her face her off.
Knowing Fede and his movies, this could probably be his best practical effect achievement yet.
Evil Dead had the arm scene, but this seems like it could top it.
I can totally picture this kind of scene here. Characters in panic trying to pull out the hugger, except this time it's gonna be super messy.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 02, 2024, 12:12:19 PMNot only does it have acid as a defensive mechanism, but if some other party tries to remove the facehugger from the host by other means, it will start ripping off the skin (and more) from its victim's face, therefore making it more likely for it to be left alone.
The tail would just choke the victim. We saw that in the first movie and it was confirmed in the second. In the first movie they also mention the nails are tearing Kane's scalp.
First movie also shows the facehugger can secrete acid so that's another line of defense.
I guess my issue is, if they wanted to make face-hugging nastier, there are so many things already in place that we've never seen in action they could've gone with. Finger spikes is just kind of dumb.
An Alien movie.
Being mean Spirited???!!!!
good heavens.
Imagine that.
Quote from: skhellter on Mar 02, 2024, 12:47:32 PMAn Alien.
Being mean Spirited???!!!!
good heavens.
Imagine that.
If anything, Xenos are the opposite of mean-spirited - they're acting on a biological imperative, doing what they're meant to.
Now, as for their designers, well...
Quote from: skhellter on Mar 02, 2024, 12:47:32 PMAn Alien.
Being mean Spirited???!!!!
Nobody's talking about the Alien being mean-spirited.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 02, 2024, 12:37:35 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 02, 2024, 12:12:19 PMNot only does it have acid as a defensive mechanism, but if some other party tries to remove the facehugger from the host by other means, it will start ripping off the skin (and more) from its victim's face, therefore making it more likely for it to be left alone.
The tail would just choke the victim. We saw that in the first movie and it was confirmed in the second. In the first movie they also mention the nails are tearing Kane's scalp.
First movie also shows the facehugger can secrete acid so that's another line of defense.
I guess my issue is, if they wanted to make face-hugging nastier, there are so many things already in place that we've never seen in action they could've gone with. Finger spikes is just kind of dumb.
What if people tried to drop a bucket of water (or another liquid) in order to make the facehugger "slippier" or tried to burn it with a lighter in order for it to have a quick let go response.
The barbed wire makes it so that the victim has absolutely no chance of getting out of this situation once it has been facehugged.
Either it gets chestbursted in the near future or it will have his face ripped off and potentially die from its wounds.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 02, 2024, 01:14:15 PMWhat if people tried to drop a bucket of water (or another liquid) in order to make the facehugger "slippier" or tried to burn it with a lighter in order for it to have a quick let go response.
It took several adults to pull one off that wasn't fully attached while wet in the second movie.
They cut it in the first movie and it didn't let go. It didn't even flinch.
QuoteThe barbed wire makes it so that the victim has absolutely no chance of getting out of this situation once it has been facehugged.
Either it gets chestbursted in the near future or it will have his face ripped off and potentially die from its wounds.
Again, this is already the case without barbs. The face hugger tears Kane's scalp when they try to take it off in the first movie, that's why they try to cut it. Dallas says you can't take it off without taking his face off with it.
I think the Aliens themselves are plenty vindictive.
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Sounds abit daft . Barbed wire fingers. Sounds horrific and will likely have brutal consequences ( why design them in the first place) but it doesn't seem organic. Nasty for the sake of being nasty.
Like his Evil Dead film.
I agree the barbs do seem unnecessary given the denfensive mechanisms the hugger already has in place. I'd like to see the return of the royal facehugger concept though. Didnt the original AVP comic have the queen huggers with spikes?
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 02, 2024, 01:40:04 PMI think the Aliens themselves are plenty vindictive.
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God, I fricking love that shot of the Runner in Alien³
Not bothered by the barbs, pretty minor change.
Sounds like something thats been purely designed for a new toy line.
Voice over ' And now witness the new Facehugger with brutal bladed fingers '
Some gormless kid 'Woah !'
You all went wild with the barbs so quickly. Gonna be fun watching the reactions when the trailer finally hits. I'm in a very unique situation having seen it all with only that one production still out there.
It's so hard not saying anything, but knowing I'd seen those barbs, I had to point them out to everyone since they were right in front of our eyes. I'm still not gonna give anything away that would spoil plot details or anything.
@PortugueseXeno is not here today. There's something odd here. 👀👉👈
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 02, 2024, 07:24:13 PM@PortugueseXeno is not here today. There's something odd here. 👀👉👈
He said something a few posts ago!
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Too busy being obssessed with Dune Part 2.
Are the barbs a bit too much? Maybe, would've liked for them to be smaller, almost microscopic, but not a too big of a difference and makes sense. I never understood how the huggers nails were tearing off Kane's scalp when the nails were short and not really curved at all. This makes the tight grip much more plausible. Doesn't have to be completely hooked into the head to make a bloody mess.
But I do see Fede going that route for a gruesome scene. If the changes and new features are minor like these, I won't have too much of a problem with it.
I do like the old way where the host wasn't marked and with the amnesia could wonder around for some time, be rescued and picked up and unknowingly spread the Alien. But that hasn't been upheld for some time now, long before Covenant and AvP even.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 02, 2024, 07:52:27 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 02, 2024, 07:24:13 PM@PortugueseXeno is not here today. There's something odd here. 👀👉👈
Too busy being obssessed with Dune Part 2.
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I'm cool with the barbs. Gonna be pretty grisly. RIP to the beautiful face of whichever unfortunate victim happens to have the misfortune of having someone try to pry the Facehugger off of them...
Oh yeah...that cursed infamouse word
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 02, 2024, 07:58:17 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 02, 2024, 07:52:27 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 02, 2024, 07:24:13 PM@PortugueseXeno is not here today. There's something odd here. 👀👉👈
Too busy being obssessed with Dune Part 2.
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But make no mistake, what Mike's Monsters posted got me excited, but it's hard for me to really think about Alien: Romulus at the moment, when i´ve just been thinking (and obssessing) about how much of a cinematic masterpiece Dune Part 2 was.
I know that a lot of people are throwing around, "cinematic masterpiece" for Dune Part 2, but damn, that movie was such a special event.
Denis Villeneuve is the man.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 02, 2024, 01:40:04 PMI think the Aliens themselves are plenty vindictive.
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The only Alien you could possibly argue is vindictive is the Queen. None of the others are out for any sort of revenge.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 02, 2024, 08:11:45 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 02, 2024, 01:40:04 PMI think the Aliens themselves are plenty vindictive.
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The only Alien you could possibly argue is vindictive is the Queen. None of the others are out for any sort of revenge.
If you say so, I get the vibe of otherwise in three.
the barbs are so minor lol
gonna make for a cool scene probably
know what was a "bit much"?
Remember Cameron's Aliens and the arm blades?
but still nobody cried about those and they looked cool so... whatever.
storm in a teacup.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 02, 2024, 08:53:25 PMIf you say so, I get the vibe of otherwise in three.
Revenge for what, exactly?
Quote from: skhellter on Mar 02, 2024, 09:01:31 PMknow what was a "bit much"?
Remember Cameron's Aliens and the arm blades?
but still nobody cried about those and they looked cool so... whatever.
How are they in any way similar?
There is one possible reason for the barbs that's not been mentioned - What if it's to hold on to the outside of a space ship/flat surface or any kind of moving situation it can't get its fingers around.
The barbs are not for impregnation - they are for getting the Facehugger from A to B.
I've noticed a few people saying that I was "reading too much into the image" or that it's slime, lighting or it's not on every finger around the socials.
I pointed them out for a reason. Because they are indeed there, lol.
Good catch on it being on the Queen Facehugger. That's a detail I'd never noticed. From what I've seen, I am fairly certain these barbs are on every finger of these new Facehugger designs instead of just the front two on the Queen Facehugger.
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Quote from: Highland on Mar 02, 2024, 11:36:01 PMThere is one possible reason for the barbs that's not been mentioned - What if it's to hold on to the outside of a space ship/flat surface or any kind of moving situation it can't get its fingers around.
The barbs are not for impregnation - they are for getting the Facehugger from A to B.
They've never had an issue getting around before and, let's face it, it's Fede. They're getting used there.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 03, 2024, 02:10:41 AMQuote from: Highland on Mar 02, 2024, 11:36:01 PMThere is one possible reason for the barbs that's not been mentioned - What if it's to hold on to the outside of a space ship/flat surface or any kind of moving situation it can't get its fingers around.
The barbs are not for impregnation - they are for getting the Facehugger from A to B.
They've never had an issue getting around before and, let's face it, it's Fede. They're getting used there.
Technically we've never seen the situation before (the holding on to something) so it wouldn't break canon. I guess my issue with the barbs being used as some kind of you can't get me off "thing" is that it would suggest there's no is she is she not impregnated tense part of the movie. It would be quite clear that somebody has something going on with .....they face :laugh:
Unless the hugger needs it for bigger prey, perhaps the Alien gets born from a bigger animal we've not seen. Maybe the barbs are what shoot the acid to eat through the helmets?
If it's for humans then yeah, I agree, it's probably in there just for the gore factor.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 02, 2024, 12:12:19 PMDamn, the "barbed wire" facehugger is such a nasty and raw addition.
Not only does it have acid as a defensive mechanism, but if some other party tries to remove the facehugger from the host by other means, it will start ripping off the skin (and more) from its victim's face, therefore making it more likely for it to be left alone.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is Isabella's disgusting scene.
She gets face-hugged, and when the other crew members try to remove it, the facehugger will rip her face her off.
Knowing Fede and his movies, this could probably be his best practical effect achievement yet.
Evil Dead had the arm scene, but this seems like it could top it.
This is personally my favorite theory. This is something we haven't seen in any "Alien" film. Every thing else was about chest bursting, head puncturing, etcetera. This will be the film's signature scene. Its main attraction. Yes, the facehugger is already terrifying as it is, but adding the extra "Barbed wire" will definitely bring a new level of fear for our little critter friend.
I can't deny it would be interesting to see what happens when you pry a facehugger off someone's face mid-implantation. It would certainly contextualize how John J. Marachuk died in Aliens.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 03, 2024, 04:33:05 AMI can't deny it would be interesting to see what happens when you pry a facehugger off someone's face mid-implantation. It would certainly contextualize how John J. Marachuk died in Aliens.
see Suicide Squad (2021)
I feel like I've seen facehuggers with barbed talons in the comics before. I could also just be misremembering and thinking of the random spikes put on their backs in some of them
It's not a new design idea, no.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 03, 2024, 04:33:05 AMI can't deny it would be interesting to see what happens when you pry a facehugger off someone's face mid-implantation. It would certainly contextualize how John J. Marachuk died in Aliens.
According to the W-Y Report, the facehugger sent a chemical shock through his body.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 03, 2024, 04:33:05 AMI can't deny it would be interesting to see what happens when you pry a facehugger off someone's face mid-implantation. It would certainly contextualize how John J. Marachuk died in Aliens.
Hugger probably chokes them out or tears their face off with their nails. Or douses their face with acid.
So many gnarly options.
Yep I'm leaning towards it's a Fede thing. If there is such a scene, you could have done globally the same scene without barbs.
This situation is discussed numerously without being shown in previous films. This time you could show it and it would sill be a never seen before scene.
Technically, no need for barbs indeed. But eh, I like the extra nastyness anyways so :laugh:
Quote from: skhellter on Mar 03, 2024, 05:37:23 AMQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 03, 2024, 04:33:05 AMI can't deny it would be interesting to see what happens when you pry a facehugger off someone's face mid-implantation. It would certainly contextualize how John J. Marachuk died in Aliens.
see Suicide Squad (2021)
Yep. 8)
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There's another visible feature on the facehugger that's been sitting in front of our eyes. It's totally obvious having seen it on camera now. I'll point it out eventually if no one picks up on it.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 04, 2024, 08:58:28 PMI'll point it out eventually if no one picks up on it.
I'll make this easier for you, Mike.
No one has.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 04, 2024, 08:58:28 PMThere's another visible feature on the facehugger that's been sitting in front of our eyes. It's totally obvious having seen it on camera now. I'll point it out eventually if no one picks up on it.
Something "on" the tail on the far-right side?
edit Are there "barbs" on the tail as well (in the shadow)?
The design looks more armoured than fleshy and it seems to be painted darker like in AvPR.
And no fingernails.
Now that you mention it, it seems to be multi-colored ? Clearer and darker tones on the fingers especially.
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The sacs underside appear to be more in the mold of this that this.
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With the tendon like detailing present on them.
Also appears to be a specific new detail on the back of the tail, can not say what exactly it is though.
referencing the original tease photo ... are those little lip-like suckers on the digit tips?
Yeah the apparent sack appear to be placed a bit differently.
Probably because of the picture though but who knows.
It lacks the membrane of the Royal Facehugger, though. Could it possibly be an earlier version? Or a variant?